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(Deadspin)   Bill Simmons forced to withdraw his NBA MVP vote (for LeBron James) after someone remembered he had said he bet on LeBron to win the award in an old podcast   (deadspin.com) divider line 35
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2012-05-04 06:36:40 PM  
Wow. That is a 94 on the Unintentional Comedy Scale. That's almost like the time William Zabka as lead Cobra Kai almost disobeyed the "sweep the leg" command. Or like the '86 playoffs when McHale decked Magic. Or somethin'. It is almost as bad as the Knicks taking Renaldo Balkman in the 2006 draft. Or somethin'. It also reminds me of seeing U2 at the 2002 Super Bowl just months after 9/11 and that column I wrote about New Orleans.
 
2012-05-04 06:55:30 PM  

rickythepenguin: Wow. That is a 94 on the Unintentional Comedy Scale. That's almost like the time William Zabka as lead Cobra Kai almost disobeyed the "sweep the leg" command. Or like the '86 playoffs when McHale decked Magic. Or somethin'. It is almost as bad as the Knicks taking Renaldo Balkman in the 2006 draft. Or somethin'. It also reminds me of seeing U2 at the 2002 Super Bowl just months after 9/11 and that column I wrote about New Orleans.


You get to wear the "Awesome Hat" for that post...

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2012-05-04 07:00:21 PM  
Wow, they let that asshat vote on awards?
 
2012-05-04 07:45:08 PM  
The article says he withdrew it on his own
 
2012-05-04 08:36:07 PM  

rickythepenguin: Wow. That is a 94 on the Unintentional Comedy Scale. That's almost like the time William Zabka as lead Cobra Kai almost disobeyed the "sweep the leg" command. Or like the '86 playoffs when McHale decked Magic. Or somethin'. It is almost as bad as the Knicks taking Renaldo Balkman in the 2006 draft. Or somethin'. It also reminds me of seeing U2 at the 2002 Super Bowl just months after 9/11 and that column I wrote about New Orleans.


i'm gonna funny AND smart this as soon as i can.
 
2012-05-04 08:57:49 PM  

mjoven1975: Wow, they let that asshat vote on awards?


a) it's awards, it's not like it's something important
b) he probably knows more about the game and has watched more games than damn near anyone else that has a vote
c) eh, he placed bets before he knew he had a vote, then he voted for the best player in the league for MVP, then realized he had money on the outcome and couldn't . No biggie.

FTA: "What Simmons did was dishonest and wrought with self-interest"

I know that as a rule for Deadspin, you have to accuse everyone who works for a normal media company of being a bunch of liars and cheats, but there's nothing dishonest about what happened. He publicly said he made the bets. He publicly made the picks. LeBron was the best player in the league, by most objective measures. He also pulled his vote when he realized what he'd done and how it could appear to others. Get over yourselves.
 
2012-05-04 09:23:17 PM  

rickythepenguin: Wow. That is a 94 on the Unintentional Comedy Scale. That's almost like the time William Zabka as lead Cobra Kai almost disobeyed the "sweep the leg" command. Or like the '86 playoffs when McHale decked Magic. Or somethin'. It is almost as bad as the Knicks taking Renaldo Balkman in the 2006 draft. Or somethin'. It also reminds me of seeing U2 at the 2002 Super Bowl just months after 9/11 and that column I wrote about New Orleans.


Yup, these are my readers.
 
2012-05-04 09:26:56 PM  

IAmRight: I know that as a rule for Deadspin, you have to accuse everyone who works for a normal media company of being a bunch of liars and cheats, but there's nothing dishonest about what happened. He publicly said he made the bets. He publicly made the picks. LeBron was the best player in the league, by most objective measures. He also pulled his vote when he realized what he'd done and how it could appear to others. Get over yourselves.


Seriously, this isn't a conspiracy. He probably just didnt think about it because he's not a lawyer.
 
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2012-05-04 10:24:36 PM  

DamnYankees: IAmRight: I know that as a rule for Deadspin, you have to accuse everyone who works for a normal media company of being a bunch of liars and cheats, but there's nothing dishonest about what happened. He publicly said he made the bets. He publicly made the picks. LeBron was the best player in the league, by most objective measures. He also pulled his vote when he realized what he'd done and how it could appear to others. Get over yourselves.

Seriously, this isn't a conspiracy. He probably just didnt think about it because he's not a lawyer.


Probably yeah. But Simmons still sucks though.
 
2012-05-04 10:29:54 PM  

IAmRight: I know that as a rule for Deadspin, you have to accuse everyone who works for a normal media company of being a bunch of liars and cheats, but there's nothing dishonest about what happened. He publicly said he made the bets. He publicly made the picks. LeBron was the best player in the league, by most objective measures. He also pulled his vote when he realized what he'd done and how it could appear to others. Get over yourselves.


And to say it in such a sanctimonious way just makes it all the more ridiculous. "What Simmons did was dishonest and wrought with self-interest..." Yeah, he's a real criminal mastermind. You caught him. Collect your Pulitzer next spring.
 
2012-05-04 10:38:37 PM  
Deadspin was doing pretty good this week too. Too bad this article makes them look desperate. We get it, he's Imus and you're Howard Stern. Time to get over it Deadspin.
 
2012-05-04 10:55:40 PM  
This is why those bets were illegal for years. Vegas finally allowed them b/c nobody was coming to Vegas for any reason, so they needed something to get more people into the books. You could never wager on the Oscars until recently, and it's still hard as hell to get Strip odds for a lot of these "opinion" contests.
 
2012-05-04 11:49:25 PM  

IAmRight:
FTA: "What Simmons did was dishonest and wrought with self-interest"

I know that as a rule for Deadspin, you have to accuse everyone who works for a normal media company of being a bunch of liars and cheats, but there's nothing dishonest about what happened. He publicly said he made the bets. He publicly made the picks. LeBron was the best player in the league, by most objective measures. He also pulled his vote when he realized what he'd done and how it could appear to others. Get over yourselves.


It's literally the opposite of what Deadspin suggests. He made a bet a while ago, forgot about it (and he makes enough bets to make that both believable and likely), was granted a ballot in the vote, voted, was made aware of his earlier bet, and withdrew the vote, even though his vote was legit, and claiming otherwise means you are an idiot. Lebron has been the MVP of the league every year since his 3rd season. If people didn't get sick of voting for him, he'd win unanimously every year.
 
2012-05-05 12:19:51 AM  
Simmons is great (I particularly like the BS Report, because he gets on guys that I'm interested in hearing and asks them questions to which I want to know the answer). That's all I have to say.
 
2012-05-05 12:20:22 AM  

IAmRight: I know that as a rule for Deadspin, you have to accuse everyone who works for a normal media company of being a bunch of liars and cheats, but there's nothing dishonest about what happened. He publicly said he made the bets. He publicly made the picks. LeBron was the best player in the league, by most objective measures. He also pulled his vote when he realized what he'd done and how it could appear to others. Get over yourselves.


Yeah, Deadspin is ridiculous. There's a reason that nobody takes drama queens like that seriously.

Simmons talked all the times about his bets. He had a really long podcast discussing why he voted for Lebron for MVP. How does it even make sense to accuse the guy of some kind of nefarious conspiracy? It doesn't make the least bit of sense.

Plus, its not like there is any doubt that Lebron is going to win the award. If it was a close race, maybe Deadspin's argument wouldn't be completely stupid. But there is a 100% chance that Lebron wins the award regardless of what Simmons does. Everybody who knows anything about the NBA knows this.
 
2012-05-05 12:56:33 AM  
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2012-05-05 12:57:18 AM  

Krazikarl: Simmons talked all the times about his bets. He had a really long podcast discussing why he voted for Lebron for MVP. How does it even make sense to accuse the guy of some kind of nefarious conspiracy? It doesn't make the least bit of sense.


It's not a nefarious conspiracy. It's a blatant conflict of interest, especially since Simmons works for the self-proclaimed Worldwide Leader.
 
2012-05-05 01:03:26 AM  

JerseyTim: IAmRight: I know that as a rule for Deadspin, you have to accuse everyone who works for a normal media company of being a bunch of liars and cheats, but there's nothing dishonest about what happened. He publicly said he made the bets. He publicly made the picks. LeBron was the best player in the league, by most objective measures. He also pulled his vote when he realized what he'd done and how it could appear to others. Get over yourselves.

And to say it in such a sanctimonious way just makes it all the more ridiculous. "What Simmons did was dishonest and wrought with self-interest..." Yeah, he's a real criminal mastermind. You caught him. Collect your Pulitzer next spring.


The "air of impropriety" line is what got me. Like this was all a big conspiracy for a guy making probably several million a year to win a couple K on a bet. Simmons probably would have voted for Durant or someone else if he really thought that person deserved it.
 
2012-05-05 01:04:15 AM  

PowerSlacker: Krazikarl: Simmons talked all the times about his bets. He had a really long podcast discussing why he voted for Lebron for MVP. How does it even make sense to accuse the guy of some kind of nefarious conspiracy? It doesn't make the least bit of sense.

It's not a nefarious conspiracy. It's a blatant conflict of interest, especially since Simmons works for the self-proclaimed Worldwide Leader.


Yes, which is why he withdrew is vote. What are we getting outraged about again? He publicly stated that he made bets on certain things. He publicly made an MVP vote, explaining carefully why he did. He withdrew his vote when it was pointed out that it was a conflict of interest. Seriously, what are we getting outrage about?
 
2012-05-05 01:36:01 AM  
this is an outrage!

/or not
 
2012-05-05 02:18:22 AM  

SnakeLee: The article says he withdrew it on his own


Did he submit it on his own too?
 
2012-05-05 02:19:51 AM  
Belichick would be proud
 
2012-05-05 03:04:16 AM  
I don't follow sportswriters. I follow sports.
 
2012-05-05 03:04:41 AM  
If you listen to the podcast he did Friday, he jokes about the whole thing with Jacko after talking about Mariano Rivera. It's not a big deal.
 
2012-05-05 03:04:42 AM  
I didn't think Simmons could look like more of a douchecanoe, but he pulled it off with that moustache thing.
 
2012-05-05 04:15:35 AM  

JerseyTim: Yup, these are my readers.


I didn't laugh until this
 
2012-05-05 04:52:30 AM  
So all we have here is a guy who ended up doing the right thing?
 
2012-05-05 04:55:11 AM  
What a strange article. It starts out talking about the Black Sox and wagging its finger, than concludes by saying that it is nothing like the Black Sox. Then why bring it up?

At any rate, I really just came in here to tell everyone I don't like Bill Simmonds, unless he's changed over the last decade or something. Doubtful. He's making bold statements and bets that James will win MVP. Risky!
 
2012-05-05 10:53:59 AM  

swahnhennessy: He's making bold statements and bets that James will win MVP. Risky!


i'm not sure the point of predicting/betting is to be "bold." sure for betting value matters, but for predicting why would we want bold rather than correct?

/in unrelated nba news, fark the thunder
 
2012-05-05 11:06:04 AM  

Trocadero: This is why those bets were illegal for years. Vegas finally allowed them b/c nobody was coming to Vegas for any reason, so they needed something to get more people into the books. You could never wager on the Oscars until recently, and it's still hard as hell to get Strip odds for a lot of these "opinion" contests.


Well, if they take bets on predetermined NBA games, might as well take these "opinion" bets, too.
 
2012-05-05 12:13:26 PM  
I see all the dick riders are jumping to defend Simmons. However, I know you didn't read the article, because it's thesis is: "What Simmons did wasn't so bad, but he's lost his chance for an MVP vote." Rightly so, I'd say. What he did do was dishonest and wrought with self-interest even if he did do it unintentionally. He should be responsible for keeping track of the wagers he made over the season, and declining any responsibilities that have a clear conflict of interest. The fact that he couldn't be bothered to do so speaks to laziness on his part and on the part of ESPN. I can't really blame the NBA; the league office could be forgiven for missing a line or two on a podcast. I imagine they don't have enough staff to go through every podcast with a fine-tooth comb.
 
2012-05-05 12:17:29 PM  

IAmRight: I know that as a rule for Deadspin, you have to accuse everyone who works for a normal media company of being a bunch of liars and cheats, but there's nothing dishonest about what happened. He publicly said he made the bets. He publicly made the picks. LeBron was the best player in the league, by most objective measures. He also pulled his vote when he realized what he'd done and how it could appear to others. Get over yourselves.


That about sums up every Deadspin "expose" ever written. "Hey come read about this conspiracy we invented! We're way more hip than the mainstream sports media!"

They take themselves so farking seriously it's hilarious. Except for Drew Magary.
 
2012-05-05 12:37:07 PM  

pion: What he did do was dishonest and wrought with self-interest even if he did do it unintentionally. He should be responsible for keeping track of the wagers he made over the season, and declining any responsibilities that have a clear conflict of interest.


100% correct. he stands to benefit from the bet he made. can't do that. well...restated. he can benefit from the bet he made, he just can't affect how the vote should be tallied to decide how the bet plays out. in simple terms, YOU BET ON THE MVP OR YOU VOTE FOR THE MVP; YOU CAN'T DO BOTH.


pion: I can't really blame the NBA; the league office could be forgiven for missing a line or two on a podcast. I imagine they don't have enough staff to go through every podcast with a fine-tooth comb.


i know, "extraoridinary claims require etraordianry proof".....

i can't source this so call bullshiat on me, but i think SImmons mentioned in a column or podcast 2-3 years ago his podcast had been edited to remove a comment where a guest said "that's so freaking gay" in hte sense of "that is lame". so the NBA evidently -- wehtehr it was simmo or not -- has some rabbit ears. someone got censored by the NBA (to the extent they were able to leverage on the podcast provider) to remove that reference.
 
2012-05-05 01:56:08 PM  

pion: Rightly so, I'd say. What he did do was dishonest and wrought with self-interest even if he did do it unintentionally.


I'm pretty sure it's either one or the other. I don't think you can be dishonest and wrought with self-interest in this case if you were doing something unintentionally.

On a related note, I never understood all the hate for simmons. He's exactly what he says he is. An unabashed Boston homer who turned it into a career at ESPN. If you don't like him no one forces you to read and/or listen to him but I don't think he's ever been involved in anything untoward or claimed to be something he's not.

I think it probably comes down to jealousy...I know I wish I could have turned watching my favorite teams all day and writing about them without having to be objective into a million dollar career.
 
2012-05-05 04:19:27 PM  

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You trollin'?
 
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