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2012-05-04 07:36:03 PM
Overall, women make up nearly half the U.S. workforce. But they hold less than a quarter of the jobs in science, technology, engineering and math.

So they, by the laws of maths, have to hold over half the jobs in other industries.

Did you know half of all abortions in the US are performed on female babies?!
 
2012-05-04 08:50:29 PM
High school senior Mimi Yen spends a lot of time thinking about wyrm sex.

Fear the pants-dragon!
 
2012-05-04 11:55:54 PM

Britney Spear's Speculum: Overall, women make up nearly half the U.S. workforce. But they hold less than a quarter of the jobs in science, technology, engineering and math.

So they, by the laws of maths, have to hold over half the jobs in other industries.

Did you know half of all abortions in the US are performed on female babies?!


That's entirely possible, with some careers like nursing, office work, and hairdressing being very female dominated. My wife's office is something like 80% women.
 
2012-05-04 11:57:03 PM
I think the issue is that science needs more cooties.

Britney Spear's Speculum: Did you know half of all abortions in the US are performed on female babies?!


Sadly I think it's more than 50%.
 
2012-05-05 12:21:21 AM

Britney Spear's Speculum: Did you know half of all abortions in the US are performed on female babies?!


There's still more females than males in the US.
 
2012-05-05 12:22:41 AM
Furthermore, derp.
 
2012-05-05 12:26:42 AM

J. Frank Parnell: Britney Spear's Speculum: Did you know half of all abortions in the US are performed on female babies?!

There's still more females than males in the US.


What's really shocking is that nearly half of all deaths each year are women. Just shameful.
 
2012-05-05 12:29:47 AM

To The Escape Zeppelin!: What's really shocking is that nearly half of all deaths each year are women. Just shameful.


It's a wonder any remain at all at that alarming rate.
 
2012-05-05 12:51:12 AM
My little sister got her PHD in astrophysics from Berkeley,
even programmed teh Hubble to search for brown matter...

but left the field because it's a male-dominated field rife with assholes
who couldn't stand the thought of a young woman kicking ass

and she eventually had enough.

Ironically the project she worked on then was called the MACHO project.

/no really, that's irony
 
2012-05-05 01:30:03 AM
And those jobs pay well, too: The average annual income of a college-educated worker in the sciences is $74,000, compared to $59,000 for college grads in other fields, according to federal data. (Related: 25 top-paying jobs)

Speaking of apples and oranges....

Most jobs in most of the sciences requires a PhD, so no shiat it pays more than what an average undergrad can get. Plus, pretty much any science is insanely competitive, and requires just a bit more than 40 hours of work a week (postdocs put in more like 70 hours a week).

Anybody who brings up how much scientists make is just nuts. Any of these people could make at least 3-5x as much on Wall Street (who are usually quite happy to hire people like physics phds nowadays) for the same amount of work.

davynelson: My little sister got her PHD in astrophysics from Berkeley,
even programmed teh Hubble to search for brown matter...


Your sister was searching for Brown Dwarfs, not brown matter.

And astronomy is generally pretty good about handling women. Yes, there are tons of assholes, but they generally are assholes to anybody without caring about gender. I guess some of the 75+ year old guys can be sexist, but nobody really takes them seriously very much anyway.
 
2012-05-05 01:53:25 AM

davynelson: My little sister got her PHD in astrophysics from Berkeley,
even programmed teh Hubble to search for brown matter...

but left the field because it's a male-dominated field rife with assholes
who couldn't stand the thought of a young woman kicking ass

and she eventually had enough.

Ironically the project she worked on then was called the MACHO project.

/no really, that's irony


Uncool story bro. What does she do now? Many academic fields have gotten over it, but it probably still varies from department to department. In biomedical research, biostatistics, whatever the hell it is I do now, I'd say it's 60% women. Many of them running research programs, getting grants. Telling me what to do.

But maybe there's a real bias between the sexes in ability, or in the desire to acquire certain kinds of abstract knowledge.

An old girlfriend had a theory on this, she said that men developed math from hunting. Look at the way you interact with the world now - as soon as you are out in public, you are looking around at the women, hunters eye. You're using geometry to maneuver a better look, maybe maneuvering your eyes so your SO doesn't notice, if she happens to be with you. Geometry. Are women like this? Of course they look for different markers...

In my old math department, the PhD research done by male students was almost uniformly better than that done by the female students, though the number of degrees was about evenly divided. The department is known for (and geared towards, I guess) producing professors at 4 year schools, though some have gone on to actual research careers. The research people are all male. The point...is there a real bias, or is my experience an outlier?

The old girlfriend, again, said something like "women would never have gone to the moon. Only men are romantic that way." I wonder if she was right.

/Avery is the best brewery in CO
 
2012-05-05 01:59:05 AM
It's not astronomy that's the problem, it's just Berkeley. :) I know a woman who got her Ph.D. there in biophysics, and left the field for similar reasons.

Seriously, if I remember the statistics right, chemistry has reached parity and biology may favor women these days. Astronomy is slowly reaching a balance, and geology is drifting that way. Physics seems to be the primary outlier in gender, and even there, women are tunneling in.
 
2012-05-05 03:13:16 AM

Krazikarl: davynelson: My little sister got her PHD in astrophysics from Berkeley,
even programmed teh Hubble to search for brown matter...

Your sister was searching for Brown Dwarfs, not brown matter.



You don't know that.

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2012-05-05 04:01:31 AM
These articles disgust me completely because of the unspoken sexism that they carry.

there are many fields that are almost completely female dominated such as education, psychology, and nursing to name just a few. Does anyone complain about the lack of men in these fields? No one complains despite the fact that education and nursing are fark awesome and ultra secure jobs. If the argument that having few women in science is bad is to hold any credibility AT ALL, we must simultaneously encourage men to become nurses and educators. but most of all we must realign our k-12 system to get more men into college.

These articles always ignore a fundamental fact about human existence. Male intelligence has more variance than female intelligence, and that is a fact. This means that, although the average IQ is about the same, there are far more men with mental retardation and far more men with high IQs. This is due to the fact that many nervous system genes are coded by the X chromosome. Men have only 1, women have 2. This causes more variance in men. That is a fact published in countless peer reviewed journals. there are more stupid men than women and there are more smart men than women. When larry summers said that there arent many women in science because there are fewer women with the ultra high ability required, he was right.

Now we can talk about who wants to become a scientist. How many women enjoy comparing the aspect ratios of different fighter planes or the compression ratios of engines for fun in their free time? How many women look up equations on the penetration depth of a shaped charge explosive just because they were curious? How many women learn to write computer code on their own just for fun? i know of none. all of the men i know do those things.

during the 90s our country put alot of effort into feminizing the education system at the expense of boys and men. as a result about 60% of all college students today are female. It turned out that putting more women into college just produces more liberal arts majors and lawyers, and now those majors are worthless. What we get to find out over the next 30 years is if a nation of sociologists and english majors is going to compete with the chinese, who are producing hundreds of thousands of engineers every year.

If our country needs more scientists then we need to get our men into college and we need to reform the k-12 system. THAT is the national imperative. The national imperative is NOT to try to lure women into a career that they have no interest or ability in.
 
2012-05-05 05:39:58 AM
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2012-05-05 06:48:36 AM
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2012-05-05 09:56:55 AM
I went to a conference last week where grantmakers in our region get to meet all the people working in the non-profit sector. There were probably 500 people in attendance, and I was maybe one of perhaps a dozen guys in attendance.

(Most of them were my mother's age but there were a few hotties)
 
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