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(Daily Kos)   Annual review by the Arizona state government shows that privatized prisons are actually costing the state more than state run prisons while lacking in actual security. Incensed by this, state legislators take bold action...by ending the study   (dailykos.com) divider line 84
    More: Asinine, state legislators, Arizona, state governments, for-profit prison, Corrections Corporation of America, Health Care, International, Governor Brewer, government budget  
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2012-05-04 01:32:02 PM  
www.goodfoodworld.com
 
2012-05-04 01:51:33 PM  
So, if the ship of state looks to be headed for an iceberg, you close your eyes? Eeep.
 
2012-05-04 01:55:25 PM  
**plugs ears with fingers**

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2012-05-04 02:15:20 PM  
Nonsense, private industry is always better than the government. ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS.
 
2012-05-04 02:24:48 PM  
F*cking assholes.

Conservatism here in Arizona is just a scam to transfer large amounts of tax payer dollars to private hands. See: education reform, prison reform, the bill that Brewer will sign that will effectively kill any sort of public union, SB1070, the law that killed off health care for those who most need it. These aren't to help us citizens of the state. They simply transfer money to private corporations.

Remember, we are an extraction state. All of our wealth leaves.
 
2012-05-04 02:28:50 PM  
Can we just give them back to Mexico already?
 
2012-05-04 02:29:46 PM  

Nadie_AZ: Conservatism here in Arizona is just a scam to transfer large amounts of tax payer dollars to private hands.


That's true everywhere here, not just Arizona.
 
2012-05-04 02:34:50 PM  
Arizona currently has about a dozen privately operated prisons.

State Rep. John Kavanaugh, R- Fountain Hills, is the lawmaker who proposed the plan to remove the review process.

CBS5 asked Kavanaugh why the change is good for Arizona.

"Because it's a study that was bias from the beginning and never used," said Kavanaugh."So rather than have a report that is biased and nobody listens to and costs money to produce. We simply eliminated it."

According to Kavanaugh, the recent reports on private prisons have been put together by state prison officials, skewing the data.


God dammit. Why aren't they calling him on it? I just ...
 
2012-05-04 02:44:04 PM  
Can't have anyone finding out about that, no sir.
 
2012-05-04 02:45:47 PM  
Privatized Prison are the second worst privatization idea ever.

After privatized mercenaries replacing American troops, of course.

A purely for-profit Health Care system comes in third.
 
2012-05-04 02:46:38 PM  

Nadie_AZ: Arizona currently has about a dozen privately operated prisons.

State Rep. John Kavanaugh, R- Fountain Hills, is the lawmaker who proposed the plan to remove the review process.

CBS5 asked Kavanaugh why the change is good for Arizona.

"Because it's a study that was bias from the beginning and never used," said Kavanaugh."So rather than have a report that is biased and nobody listens to and costs money to produce. We simply eliminated it."

According to Kavanaugh, the recent reports on private prisons have been put together by state prison officials, skewing the data.

God dammit. Why aren't they calling him on it? I just ...


What good would it do? It's either then a witchhunt or he's the next Joe Arpaio and never actually goes anywhere and just arrests the opposition.
 
2012-05-04 02:47:30 PM  
fark Arizona. Seriously, that state is doomed with these dildos in charge.
 
2012-05-04 02:47:39 PM  
Good. Now Romney can use his expertise to borrow money, buy the corporations, fire the guards, sell off the prisoners and take a seven-figure management fee.
 
2012-05-04 02:47:42 PM  
Maybe we should outlaw studies and lock up those that suggest them. As an owner of a private prison im going to get my lobbyists to push that one next.
 
2012-05-04 02:47:53 PM  
At some point people are going to have to concede that the gubbamint can do some things more efficiently and at a lower cost to the taxpayer while paying a living wage to union members.
 
2012-05-04 02:49:24 PM  
I'm willing to purchase Jan Brewer's skin then lease it back to her when the boys in the lab finish their analysis.
 
i^2
2012-05-04 02:50:12 PM  
Ideology uber alles!
 
2012-05-04 02:50:13 PM  

JAYoung: sell off the prisoners


Don't sell them; rent out their labor.

One wonders how much the prison companies donate to Representative Kavanaugh...
 
2012-05-04 02:51:00 PM  
i.imgur.com
 
2012-05-04 02:51:10 PM  
Well, if the customers don't like the service CCA is giving them, then they can just transfer to another prison. Free market FTW.
 
2012-05-04 02:51:19 PM  

qorkfiend: JAYoung: sell off the prisoners

Don't sell them; rent out their labor


We do that already.
 
2012-05-04 02:51:33 PM  

qorkfiend: JAYoung: sell off the prisoners

Don't sell them; rent out their labor.

One wonders how much the prison companies donate to Representative Kavanaugh...


wonder no more
 
2012-05-04 02:52:24 PM  

abb3w: So, if the ship of state looks to be headed for an iceberg, you close your eyes? Eeep.


More like if you are the captain making a boatload of money from the ship of state headed for an iceberg, you tell the passengers to close their eyes.
 
2012-05-04 02:52:25 PM  
Wait until they run the numbers on fines and home incarceration versus imprisonment. They'll have to impeach themselves.
 
2012-05-04 02:53:33 PM  
God, it was such a relief when we were able to avoid the massive privatization plan in Florida, though I suspect it'll eventually happen anyway.

Our contract attorneys were given an impossible task, to draft RFPs in a matter of days, before it was halted by the courts.

Private, for-profit prisons are demonstrably inefficient and bad for the taxpayer. The primary problem, and the reason so many GOP members like to claim they're good for the economy, is that they cherry pick inmates without health problems, thus leaving the state run facilities with the higher-cost inmates.

And of course, there's the profit motive that leads them to skimp on adequate nutrition and repairs/maintenance.
 
2012-05-04 02:53:53 PM  

thomps: qorkfiend: JAYoung: sell off the prisoners

Don't sell them; rent out their labor.

One wonders how much the prison companies donate to Representative Kavanaugh...

wonder no more


Thank you kind sir.

Funny story: The headline in the pop-out at the bottom is "Does Contemporary Christian Music Suck?", filed under "Politics & Gov't".
 
2012-05-04 02:55:17 PM  
So, the state legislators own stock in the private prisons?
 
2012-05-04 02:59:20 PM  
Who needs security when we have heroes like JT Ready to round up any escape prisoners?
 
2012-05-04 02:59:20 PM  
My favorite is still Big Horn County Montana where 10 years ago the Republican Governor (Martz) and the RNC chairman (former Governor Racicot) got together with their GOP prison-builder friends in Texas and sold the idea of a prison to the Republican county commissioners in Big Horn to float $25 million in bonds to build a prison that stands vacant to this day because somebody forgot to write a business plan. The Republican taxpayers there are still stuck holding the bag.
 
2012-05-04 02:59:35 PM  
b ... b.... but .. . The DMV!
 
2012-05-04 03:00:03 PM  
Privatizing anything has never saved the taxpayers money in the long term.

But then saving the taxpayers money wasn't really the idea, was it?
 
2012-05-04 03:01:05 PM  

Alphax: So, the state legislators own stock in the private prisons?


I think the private prisons own stock in the state legislature. Oh and our governor. Lock stock and barrel.
 
2012-05-04 03:01:24 PM  

sweetmelissa31: Who needs security when we have heroes like JT Ready to round up any escape prisoners?


Too soon! Too soon!
 
2012-05-04 03:03:45 PM  

ghare: Privatizing anything has never saved the taxpayers money in the long term.

But then saving the taxpayers money wasn't really the idea, was it?

 
2012-05-04 03:03:58 PM  

Jackson Herring: sweetmelissa31: Who needs security when we have heroes like JT Ready to round up any escape prisoners?

Too soon! Too soon!


Alternately, for Fark.com:

JT Who?
 
2012-05-04 03:05:41 PM  

Nadie_AZ: I think the private prisons own stock in the state legislature. Oh and our governor. Lock, stock, and profit! barrel.

 
2012-05-04 03:06:41 PM  
 
2012-05-04 03:07:20 PM  
Yay! & Governor Zippy here in Ohio is leading us down the same path. He also wants to privatize the (already profitable) Ohio Turnpike. Of course, he first commissioned a study by one of his cronies that's already cost the taxpayers a few million.

I'm all for fiscal conservatism, a concept that the OH Republican party abandoned years ago.

/but the porn shops close at midnight; they got that done!
 
2012-05-04 03:07:34 PM  
How does the Hoosegow compare to The Clink?
 
2012-05-04 03:07:57 PM  

ghare: Private Prison Promises Leave Texas Towns In Trouble

It's been almost two years since the privately-run prison in Appleton has held prisoners.


I'm sure there wouldn't be any sort of problem with the people who run those prisons lobbying the government to imprison more people.
 
2012-05-04 03:10:48 PM  

Tax Boy: How does the Hoosegow compare to The Clink?


They're both better than the Crossbar Hotel.
 
ecl
2012-05-04 03:15:44 PM  
***PAGING SHEP SMITH***
 
2012-05-04 03:19:18 PM  
Florida has it's share of Derp, but Arizona is really trying to turn itself back into a barren wasteland.
 
2012-05-04 03:21:09 PM  

cleveoh: Yay! & Governor Zippy here in Ohio is leading us down the same path. He also wants to privatize the (already profitable) Ohio Turnpike. Of course, he first commissioned a study by one of his cronies that's already cost the taxpayers a few million.

I'm all for fiscal conservatism, a concept that the OH Republican party abandoned years ago.

/but the porn shops close at midnight; they got that done!


People still pay for porn?
 
2012-05-04 03:21:20 PM  

cleveoh: Tax Boy: How does the Hoosegow compare to The Clink?

They're both better than the Crossbar Hotel.


CSB: years ago I was bartending at the NY Metropolitan Opera. Werner Klemperer, son of conductor Otto Klemperer, came over and asked for a glass of champagne. I told him I must go "to the Cooler!" and get some.

encrypted-tbn2.google.com

/well, no, I didn't actually say that, but it would've been funny
 
2012-05-04 03:27:40 PM  

thomps: qorkfiend: JAYoung: sell off the prisoners

Don't sell them; rent out their labor.

One wonders how much the prison companies donate to Representative Kavanaugh...

wonder no more


This and shiat like it that occurs all over this country at the state and national level is absolutely sickening.
 
2012-05-04 03:28:32 PM  

timujin: Can we just give them back to Mexico already?


Do you think Mexico wants that piece of shiat?
 
2012-05-04 03:28:45 PM  

Krymson Tyde: thomps: qorkfiend: JAYoung: sell off the prisoners

Don't sell them; rent out their labor.

One wonders how much the prison companies donate to Representative Kavanaugh...

wonder no more

This and shiat like it that occurs all over this country at the state and national level is absolutely sickening.


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2012-05-04 03:30:25 PM  

Nadie_AZ: Conservatism here in Arizona is just a scam to transfer large amounts of tax payer dollars to private hands.


Fixed. It's just that, in Arizona, they're riding high on a conservative majority and a conservative governorship, so they're doing more damage, more quickly, than most states (except, perhaps, Wisconsin.)

I can't imagine why anyone would do business in either of those states, given how much palm grease must be required to do so.
 
ecl
2012-05-04 03:34:03 PM  
Where are the paid shiatrollicans at? This thread needs raving maniacal nonsense and misdirection with a dash of threadjacking. *waits patiently*

Best part??? Forever......
 
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