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2012-05-04 01:47:07 PM  

Splinshints: Kindly point out where in the Florida code


Azlefty: i cannot claim "stand Your Ground" because I was the person victimizing whom I claim is my aggressor.


Worksucks370: Where in Florida Law does it say


776.041Use of force by aggressor.-The justification described in the preceding sections of this chapter is not available to a person who:
(1)Is attempting to commit, committing, or escaping after the commission of, a forcible felony; or
(2)Initially provokes the use of force against himself or herself, unless:
(a)Such force is so great that the person reasonably believes that he or she is in imminent danger of death or great bodily harm and that he or she has exhausted every reasonable means to escape such danger other than the use of force which is likely to cause death or great bodily harm to the assailant; or

(b)In good faith, the person withdraws from physical contact with the assailant and indicates clearly to the assailant that he or she desires to withdraw and terminate the use of force, but the assailant continues or resumes the use of force.
 
2012-05-04 01:47:23 PM  
It's Friday afternoon, why so much bitterness? And on Cinco de Mayo weekend, no less!
 
2012-05-04 01:47:50 PM  
They took down the site because they told the judge they didn't have any money, when they had received boatloads -er, material sums in donations. If the site is back up, they will have to report those donations to the court or be held in contempt. The lawyers gotta get paid and that site sure as hell won't hurt.
 
2012-05-04 01:48:42 PM  
I wonder if Mr. Zimmerman's site has links to the white victims of that vicious mob beating by black thugs in Norfolk. Or the white guy beaten to near death by the black thugs in Mobile. Oops, I forgot, that kind of violence is overlooked by liberal racists as justifiable.
 
2012-05-04 01:48:56 PM  

Worksucks370: Silly Jesus: OneTimed: Silly Jesus: Wow, that's quite the trolltastic headline there. BravoTrollmitter, bravo indeed.

How is it trolling again?


Who else, besides wingnuts and racists, actually support Zimmerman

People who can accurately read and interpret Florida law.

Where in Florida Law does it say someone has the right to follow someone around in their car at night, causing them to notice you and flee. Then try to track/chase down said person with a concealed gun. And then if/when that person defends themselves (as they most likely feel pretty threatened since you've been following them around) give you the right to shoot them.

Just curious if you could point that one out to me.


If you don't understand Florida law, start here. A Harvard law professor might be able to clear up some of the derp. If not, continue in your ignorance.
 
2012-05-04 01:48:57 PM  
For all the threads on this guy Zimmerman I swear people are acting like he's trying to bring back the Holocaust or something.

Can't wait for this trial to get started so all this can be over and done with.
 
2012-05-04 01:49:57 PM  

Pantubo: Innocent until proven guilty? Not if you're Hispanic, apparently. Charming, people.


The pro-Zimmerman types seem pretty eager to pronounce Martin guilty of assault.
 
2012-05-04 01:50:27 PM  

NightOwl2255: UCFRoadWarrior: And, Zimmerman is part Black...he is even more Black than Dred Scott or Spike Lee

A black man.
[www.blackfilm.com image 460x306]

A more black man?
[rollingout.com image 640x396]


Pretty good PhotoShop of Spike Lee. He hasn't been that dark since Reggie Miller drilled 3's in front of him a few years ago

Lets see you PhotoShop Dred Scott....heck lets see if you even know who Dred Scott is....
 
2012-05-04 01:51:00 PM  
So, the theory is that George Zimmerman thought it would be fun to stalk and murder someone just because he is black... and he called 911 in the process of doing it, so that the police would have a recording of the whole thing?

This is the theory you want to run with?
 
2012-05-04 01:51:28 PM  

Vodka Zombie: You know how I know these guys are terrible lawyers who don't know what the hell they're doing?

It took them this long to realize that they could scam racist yokels.


Because you're either with the Martins, or your with the racists....

I do agree that his first set of lawyers seemed like amateurs (go public to complain that your client wasn't cooperative? Classy.). This set seem a bit more on the ball.

I suspect the problem may have been more about Zimmerman doing a crude job when, for this kind of money, the Lawyers themselves could hire professionals and also control the content of that site.

/First rule of getting yourself out of deep shiat: Let the lawyers do all the talking.
/Anything you say, twitter, blog or post on a website can and will be used against you in court.
 
2012-05-04 01:51:33 PM  

PeterPipersPickledPecker: Silly Jesus: see someone citing Florida law

Whar cite? Whar law?


Law.

A person who is not engaged in an unlawful activity and who is attacked in any other place where he or she has a right to be has no duty to retreat and has the right to stand his or her ground and meet force with force, including deadly force if he or she reasonably believes it is necessary to do so to prevent death or great bodily harm to himself or herself or another or to prevent the commission of a forcible felony.

Poor little Trayvon. If only he had known he could be legally shot and killed for beating the evil Zimmerman up.
 
2012-05-04 01:51:43 PM  
pandagon.net
 
2012-05-04 01:51:52 PM  

Worksucks370: Where in Florida Law does it say someone has the right to follow someone around in their car at night, causing them to notice you and flee. Then try to track/chase down said person with a concealed gun. And then if/when that person defends themselves (as they most likely feel pretty threatened since you've been following them around) give you the right to shoot them.


776.041Use of force by aggressor. -The justification described in the preceding sections of this chapter is not available to a person who:

(1)Is attempting to commit, committing, or escaping after the commission of, a forcible felony; or

(2)Initially provokes the use of force against himself or herself, unless:

(a)Such force is so great that the person reasonably believes that he or she is in imminent danger of death or great bodily harm and that he or she has exhausted every reasonable means to escape such danger other than the use of force which is likely to cause death or great bodily harm to the assailant; or
(b)In good faith, the person withdraws from physical contact with the assailant and indicates clearly to the assailant that he or she desires to withdraw and terminate the use of force, but the assailant continues or resumes the use of force.

There you go.
 
2012-05-04 01:52:35 PM  

UCFRoadWarrior: NightOwl2255: UCFRoadWarrior: And, Zimmerman is part Black...he is even more Black than Dred Scott or Spike Lee

A black man.
[www.blackfilm.com image 460x306]

A more black man?
[rollingout.com image 640x396]

Pretty good PhotoShop of Spike Lee. He hasn't been that dark since Reggie Miller drilled 3's in front of him a few years ago

Lets see you PhotoShop Dred Scott....heck lets see if you even know who Dred Scott is....


upload.wikimedia.org

You really should gbtw, because we are laughing at you.
 
2012-05-04 01:53:47 PM  

Molavian: PeterPipersPickledPecker: Silly Jesus: see someone citing Florida law

Whar cite? Whar law?

Law.

A person who is not engaged in an unlawful activity and who is attacked in any other place where he or she has a right to be has no duty to retreat and has the right to stand his or her ground and meet force with force, including deadly force if he or she reasonably believes it is necessary to do so to prevent death or great bodily harm to himself or herself or another or to prevent the commission of a forcible felony.

Poor little Trayvon. If only he had known he could be legally shot and killed for beating the evil Zimmerman up.


The law is the whole law, not just the bible-picking parts that you like, farkwit.
 
2012-05-04 01:54:26 PM  

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: It's Friday afternoon, why so much bitterness? And on Cinco de Mayo weekend, no less!


bitter beer face.
folks should be more smooth, like Keith Stone.
 
2012-05-04 01:57:06 PM  

Launch Code: I wonder if Mr. Zimmerman's site has links to the white victims of that vicious mob beating by black thugs in Norfolk. Or the white guy beaten to near death by the black thugs in Mobile. Oops, I forgot, that kind of violence is overlooked by liberal racists as justifiable.


Oh yeah....our Black Racist and White Guilt Liberal supporters of Trayvon don't want to talk about that....

But, if a Zimmerman supporter beat the fark out of a black dude in the name of Zimmerman....these racists would be ButtRaping each other to be the first to whine "Racism". Al Sharpton couldn't find a camera fast enough
 
2012-05-04 01:57:23 PM  
rollingout.com

Wesley Snipes.
 
2012-05-04 01:57:30 PM  

Silly Jesus: Worksucks370: Silly Jesus: OneTimed: Silly Jesus: Wow, that's quite the trolltastic headline there. BravoTrollmitter, bravo indeed.

How is it trolling again?


Who else, besides wingnuts and racists, actually support Zimmerman

People who can accurately read and interpret Florida law.

Where in Florida Law does it say someone has the right to follow someone around in their car at night, causing them to notice you and flee. Then try to track/chase down said person with a concealed gun. And then if/when that person defends themselves (as they most likely feel pretty threatened since you've been following them around) give you the right to shoot them.

Just curious if you could point that one out to me.

If you don't understand Florida law, start here. A Harvard law professor might be able to clear up some of the derp. If not, continue in your ignorance.



So... to sum up the article. We don't know enough facts, and if Trevon threw the first punch then Zimmerman could be in position to claim Stand your ground defense.

Other than confirming that Florida is really messed up... I honestly don't think that's a very strong argument for Zimmerman when everything is considered. Call me ignorant if you wish.
 
2012-05-04 01:58:27 PM  

Splinshints: Kindly point out where in the Florida code it says you can chase an unarmed person minding his own business down the street, admit you're doing it to a 911 operator, ignore the operator's instruction to desist, and then shoot the person you've been chasing because they turn to confront you.


This is turning into another OJ case, where everybody just KNOWS what happened because they watch the news and know what color the people were.

If you go view ALL the evidence, then I'll respect your take on this. Otherwise STFU.
 
2012-05-04 02:00:35 PM  

Worksucks370: Silly Jesus: Worksucks370: Silly Jesus: OneTimed: Silly Jesus: Wow, that's quite the trolltastic headline there. BravoTrollmitter, bravo indeed.

How is it trolling again?


Who else, besides wingnuts and racists, actually support Zimmerman

People who can accurately read and interpret Florida law.

Where in Florida Law does it say someone has the right to follow someone around in their car at night, causing them to notice you and flee. Then try to track/chase down said person with a concealed gun. And then if/when that person defends themselves (as they most likely feel pretty threatened since you've been following them around) give you the right to shoot them.

Just curious if you could point that one out to me.

If you don't understand Florida law, start here. A Harvard law professor might be able to clear up some of the derp. If not, continue in your ignorance.


So... to sum up the article. We don't know enough facts, and if Trevon threw the first punch then Zimmerman could be in position to claim Stand your ground defense.

Other than confirming that Florida is really messed up... I honestly don't think that's a very strong argument for Zimmerman when everything is considered. Call me ignorant if you wish.


So we don't know enough facts now? I thought you just laid out a scenario that you were implying to be fact and indicating that if someone is keeping a visual on another person in a neighborhood they are somehow attacking them and that it negates any ability to fight back at a later point in time.
 
2012-05-04 02:00:48 PM  

PeterPipersPickledPecker: UCFRoadWarrior: NightOwl2255: UCFRoadWarrior: And, Zimmerman is part Black...he is even more Black than Dred Scott or Spike Lee

A black man.
[www.blackfilm.com image 460x306]

A more black man?
[rollingout.com image 640x396]

Pretty good PhotoShop of Spike Lee. He hasn't been that dark since Reggie Miller drilled 3's in front of him a few years ago

Lets see you PhotoShop Dred Scott....heck lets see if you even know who Dred Scott is....

[upload.wikimedia.org image 220x265]

You really should gbtw, because we are laughing at you.


Uh huh...still don't know who Dred Scott is....right? Nope
 
2012-05-04 02:02:14 PM  

Pantubo: So, the theory is that George Zimmerman thought it would be fun to stalk and murder someone just because he is black... and he called 911 in the process of doing it, so that the police would have a recording of the whole thing?

This is the theory you want to run with?


There are probably people putting that forth, but I'm going with:
George Zimmerman thought he was the Night Avenger, protector of the innocent and defender of freedom. He sat in his car all night, just waiting for someone, anyone, who he thought might be up to no good. He saw someone (who turned out to be black) that he didn't recognize. He called 911 and reported the person and then, against the operators instructions, got out and followed that person. Eventually, the person he was following freaked out about being followed and confronted him. Zimmerman realized he wasn't a superhero, that he had gotten too deep into some shiat he wasn't ready for and resorted to shooting that person.

My problem with the situation was that it looked like it was being swept under the rug, that no real investigation had taken place. Now there's been a more thorough investigation and Zimmerman will have his time in court. I don't know if he'll be found guilty or not, but I think this is the right course of action.

I don't know if his actions were racially motivated, if he would have followed if it had been a white dude. I have noticed a lot of the people who support him, at least the more vocal ones, do seem to have a racist leaning.
 
2012-05-04 02:03:35 PM  

Vodka Zombie: You know how I know these guys are terrible lawyers who don't know what the hell they're doing?

It took them this long to realize that they could scam racist yokels.


Or they enjoy white-guilt aging hippie douches' tears.

/they sustain them
 
2012-05-04 02:04:04 PM  

Silly Jesus:


It's futile to even discuss the facts of this case. Despite more information coming out every day, people seem to know even less and less about it.

You're dealing with two people who hold these two thoughts inclusively:
Martin is justified in attacking an unknown person for following him
Zimmermang is not justified in following an unknown person who fits the description of recent burglars for the purpose of reporting his location to the police

So, on their minds, if you attack someone who you think is suspicious, that's fine, but if you follow someone who you think is suspicious, you're a racist maniac.

Trust me, don't bother getting into it with them. No ones mind will be changed, despite how factual and logical you present your thoughts.
 
2012-05-04 02:04:38 PM  
Worksucks370:

Further reading if you're interested. Also by Dershowitz. Here he cites how the prosecutor has already suborned perjury in her attempt to bring this weak case.

"This affidavit submitted by the prosecutor in the Florida case is a crime," Dershowitz said. "It's a crime."

Doesn't bode well for those yelling racism and murderer...
 
2012-05-04 02:06:35 PM  

timujin: I don't know if he'll be found guilty or not, but I think this is the right course of action.


Technically, it's an illegal course of action. If people are worried about the "boatloads of cash he's scamming from dumb racists", wait until they see the settlement from the lawsuit for wrongful arrest and imprisonment.
 
2012-05-04 02:08:31 PM  

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Silly Jesus:

It's futile to even discuss the facts of this case. Despite more information coming out every day, people seem to know even less and less about it.

You're dealing with two people who hold these two thoughts inclusively:
Martin is justified in attacking an unknown person for following him
Zimmermang is not justified in following an unknown person who fits the description of recent burglars for the purpose of reporting his location to the police

So, on their minds, if you attack someone who you think is suspicious, that's fine, but if you follow someone who you think is suspicious, you're a racist maniac.

Trust me, don't bother getting into it with them. No ones mind will be changed, despite how factual and logical you present your thoughts.


I know, I've already played the game in a couple of other threads. I was just killing time. About to leave for the evening actually and I fully expect this thread to be 500+ posts deep in derp by the time I get back later tonight.

I especially enjoyed one part of your post.

Cheers.
 
2012-05-04 02:08:38 PM  

timujin: Pantubo: So, the theory is that George Zimmerman thought it would be fun to stalk and murder someone just because he is black... and he called 911 in the process of doing it, so that the police would have a recording of the whole thing?

This is the theory you want to run with?

There are probably people putting that forth, but I'm going with:
George Zimmerman thought he was the Night Avenger, protector of the innocent and defender of freedom. He sat in his car all night, just waiting for someone, anyone, who he thought might be up to no good. He saw someone (who turned out to be black) that he didn't recognize. He called 911 and reported the person and then, against the operators instructions, got out and followed that person. Eventually, the person he was following freaked out about being followed and confronted him. Zimmerman realized he wasn't a superhero, that he had gotten too deep into some shiat he wasn't ready for and resorted to shooting that person.

My problem with the situation was that it looked like it was being swept under the rug, that no real investigation had taken place. Now there's been a more thorough investigation and Zimmerman will have his time in court. I don't know if he'll be found guilty or not, but I think this is the right course of action.

I don't know if his actions were racially motivated, if he would have followed if it had been a white dude. I have noticed a lot of the people who support him, at least the more vocal ones, do seem to have a racist leaning.


I'm disappointed that George Zimmerman never promoted himself above Neighborhood Watch Captain. What about something more befitting of his efforts like Neighborhood Watch Commandant or Neighborhood Watch Colonel?

It's like Colonel Quadaffi remaining a Colonel for 40 years. If you can't become a General in that time then you should probably retire.
 
2012-05-04 02:08:53 PM  

Shirley Ujest: Would any of this be taxable. And. B) could someone sue paypal to find out who the racists are.....errrr people are?


I don't know about your second point, but on the first, they are likely "gifts," so they are non-taxable to the recipient (Zimmerman).

Most likely. I can't envision an scenario in which these donations would be considered taxable income.
 
2012-05-04 02:09:39 PM  

Molavian: timujin: I don't know if he'll be found guilty or not, but I think this is the right course of action.

Technically, it's an illegal course of action. If people are worried about the "boatloads of cash he's scamming from dumb racists", wait until they see the settlement from the lawsuit for wrongful arrest and imprisonment.


What wrongful arrest and imprisonment? The part of the reason why he was arrested and charged is because it was determined that it wasn't his voice screaming for help on the 911 tape.
 
2012-05-04 02:10:06 PM  

UCFRoadWarrior: And, Zimmerman is part Black...he is even more Black than Dred Scott or Spike Lee


lolwut?
 
2012-05-04 02:10:52 PM  

UCFRoadWarrior: skrewewe: Good to see that the media's attempt to make this whole Trayvon thing all about racism successful. Im sure it's KKK and Skin heads donating money to a fat mexican.

Gee...maybe we can get the Zimmerman Supporters to gang up and beat up some black folks in the name of "Justice For Zimmerman"....just like blacks are doing to whites in the name of "Justice For Trayvon"


I just donated...thanks subby for providing that info.

UFC road... just want you to know that you are on my favorites list.
 
2012-05-04 02:10:54 PM  

ongbok: Molavian: timujin: I don't know if he'll be found guilty or not, but I think this is the right course of action.

Technically, it's an illegal course of action. If people are worried about the "boatloads of cash he's scamming from dumb racists", wait until they see the settlement from the lawsuit for wrongful arrest and imprisonment.

What wrongful arrest and imprisonment? The part of the reason why he was arrested and charged is because it was determined that it wasn't his voice screaming for help on the 911 tape.


I wasn't aware that the trial had begun already.
 
2012-05-04 02:10:58 PM  

timujin: UCFRoadWarrior: And, Zimmerman is part Black...he is even more Black than Dred Scott or Spike Lee

lolwut?


He meant Michael Scott and Spike Jonze
 
2012-05-04 02:12:31 PM  

Silly Jesus: Worksucks370: Silly Jesus: Worksucks370: Silly Jesus: OneTimed: Silly Jesus: Wow, that's quite the trolltastic headline there. BravoTrollmitter, bravo indeed.

How is it trolling again?


Who else, besides wingnuts and racists, actually support Zimmerman

People who can accurately read and interpret Florida law.

Where in Florida Law does it say someone has the right to follow someone around in their car at night, causing them to notice you and flee. Then try to track/chase down said person with a concealed gun. And then if/when that person defends themselves (as they most likely feel pretty threatened since you've been following them around) give you the right to shoot them.

Just curious if you could point that one out to me.

If you don't understand Florida law, start here. A Harvard law professor might be able to clear up some of the derp. If not, continue in your ignorance.


So... to sum up the article. We don't know enough facts, and if Trevon threw the first punch then Zimmerman could be in position to claim Stand your ground defense.

Other than confirming that Florida is really messed up... I honestly don't think that's a very strong argument for Zimmerman when everything is considered. Call me ignorant if you wish.

So we don't know enough facts now? I thought you just laid out a scenario that you were implying to be fact and indicating that if someone is keeping a visual on another person in a neighborhood they are somehow attacking them and that it negates any ability to fight back at a later point in time.




.... I was summing up the Article jackass.
 
2012-05-04 02:12:36 PM  
I like Silly Jesus' logic. If it's legal, then it can't be racism.
 
2012-05-04 02:13:04 PM  

The_Six_Fingered_Man: ongbok: Molavian: timujin: I don't know if he'll be found guilty or not, but I think this is the right course of action.

Technically, it's an illegal course of action. If people are worried about the "boatloads of cash he's scamming from dumb racists", wait until they see the settlement from the lawsuit for wrongful arrest and imprisonment.

What wrongful arrest and imprisonment? The part of the reason why he was arrested and charged is because it was determined that it wasn't his voice screaming for help on the 911 tape.

I wasn't aware that the trial had begun already.


What does that have to do with a trial? Several voice experts have already said it wasn't Zimmerman's voice on the tape. That is called evidence and will be introduced at trial.
 
2012-05-04 02:14:26 PM  

Silly Jesus: Worksucks370:

Further reading if you're interested. Also by Dershowitz. Here he cites how the prosecutor has already suborned perjury in her attempt to bring this weak case.

"This affidavit submitted by the prosecutor in the Florida case is a crime," Dershowitz said. "It's a crime."

Doesn't bode well for those yelling racism and murderer...


shh....be careful...you might start another "Justice For Trayvon" rally on some white guy's face
 
2012-05-04 02:16:49 PM  

ongbok: The_Six_Fingered_Man: ongbok: Molavian: timujin: I don't know if he'll be found guilty or not, but I think this is the right course of action.

Technically, it's an illegal course of action. If people are worried about the "boatloads of cash he's scamming from dumb racists", wait until they see the settlement from the lawsuit for wrongful arrest and imprisonment.

What wrongful arrest and imprisonment? The part of the reason why he was arrested and charged is because it was determined that it wasn't his voice screaming for help on the 911 tape.

I wasn't aware that the trial had begun already.

What does that have to do with a trial? Several voice experts have already said it wasn't Zimmerman's voice on the tape. That is called evidence and will be introduced at trial.


Umm...Perry Mason....those two "voice experts" arent going to be testifying in any trial. Heck they dispute the others methods for voice analysis

But, hey, the Black Racists and the White Guilt Liberals can wet dream a Zimmerman conviction......
 
2012-05-04 02:16:54 PM  
How the FARK was a PICTURE of a can of Arizona Watermelon flavored juice cocktail even remotely considered "hate speech"? I see people bad mouthing Christians all the time in here and never getting their posts pulled.........C'mon Drew, let's be equal here.
 
2012-05-04 02:18:58 PM  

cryinoutloud: Yawn. Ready.....set......GO!


img002.lazygirls.info
 
2012-05-04 02:19:40 PM  

LordJiro: Pantubo: Innocent until proven guilty? Not if you're Hispanic, apparently. Charming, people.

The pro-Zimmerman types seem pretty eager to pronounce Martin guilty of assault.


Yes, but he's BLACK. Don't you see the difference? On the scale of what Angry White Men hate, Black beats Brown, just like Paper beats Rock in Rock/Paper/Scissors.
 
2012-05-04 02:20:04 PM  

BR549: How the FARK was a PICTURE of a can of Arizona Watermelon flavored juice cocktail even remotely considered "hate speech"? I see people bad mouthing Christians all the time in here and never getting their posts pulled.........C'mon Drew, let's be equal here.


When I saw that picture my immediate response was a desire to go murder a minority, so it was pretty obviously hate speech.
 
2012-05-04 02:20:19 PM  

Rapmaster2000: It's like Colonel Quadaffi remaining a Colonel for 40 years. If you can't become a General in that time then you should probably retire.


That's why General Tsao makes way better chicken than Colonel Sanders.
 
2012-05-04 02:20:57 PM  

UCFRoadWarrior: ongbok: The_Six_Fingered_Man: ongbok: Molavian: timujin: I don't know if he'll be found guilty or not, but I think this is the right course of action.

Technically, it's an illegal course of action. If people are worried about the "boatloads of cash he's scamming from dumb racists", wait until they see the settlement from the lawsuit for wrongful arrest and imprisonment.

What wrongful arrest and imprisonment? The part of the reason why he was arrested and charged is because it was determined that it wasn't his voice screaming for help on the 911 tape.

I wasn't aware that the trial had begun already.

What does that have to do with a trial? Several voice experts have already said it wasn't Zimmerman's voice on the tape. That is called evidence and will be introduced at trial.

Umm...Perry Mason....those two "voice experts" arent going to be testifying in any trial. Heck they dispute the others methods for voice analysis

But, hey, the Black Racists and the White Guilt Liberals can wet dream a Zimmerman conviction......


But the FBI's voice experts are and reportedly they came to the same conclusion that it wasn't Zimmerman's, which is what led to his arrest and charges.
 
2012-05-04 02:21:03 PM  

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: It's Friday afternoon, why so much bitterness? And on Cinco de Mayo weekend, no less!


I see that you got your Google Alert that a Zimmerman thread had been greenlit on Fark, so you could pop in and tell us how much you don't care about Zimmerman threads.
 
2012-05-04 02:21:36 PM  

BR549: How the FARK was a PICTURE of a can of Arizona Watermelon flavored juice cocktail even remotely considered "hate speech"? I see people bad mouthing Christians all the time in here and never getting their posts pulled.........C'mon Drew, let's be equal here.


I have no idea what picture you're referring to, but this brings to mind a discussion I was having in another thread where someone was comparing the choice of what to name your kid to the choice of a mixed-race couple to have children...

You choose to be Christian, you don't choose to be black. "Bad mouthing" people because of a choice isn't the same as being even mildly racist. Don't like it? Go to freeperville.
 
2012-05-04 02:22:43 PM  

Mavent: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: It's Friday afternoon, why so much bitterness? And on Cinco de Mayo weekend, no less!

I see that you got your Google Alert that a Zimmerman thread had been greenlit on Fark, so you could pop in and tell us how much you don't care about Zimmerman threads.


Actually, it was a text alert from Stormfront, but same difference
 
2012-05-04 02:24:36 PM  

ongbok: The_Six_Fingered_Man: ongbok: Molavian: timujin: I don't know if he'll be found guilty or not, but I think this is the right course of action.

Technically, it's an illegal course of action. If people are worried about the "boatloads of cash he's scamming from dumb racists", wait until they see the settlement from the lawsuit for wrongful arrest and imprisonment.

What wrongful arrest and imprisonment? The part of the reason why he was arrested and charged is because it was determined that it wasn't his voice screaming for help on the 911 tape.

I wasn't aware that the trial had begun already.

What does that have to do with a trial? Several voice experts have already said it wasn't Zimmerman's voice on the tape. That is called evidence and will be introduced at trial.


You mean the experts like Tom Owen, who used his own proprietary software to analyze the screams versus the calm speech? The same Owen that was retained by the Martin family? Or the same Owen whose software couldn't match two known samples from Richard Nixon with more than a 68% certainty? The same Owen that said that 90% was the threshold match when referring to Zimmerman, but only 60% when testifying in court?

Or were you talking about someone else? Maybe the other expert that the Orlando Sentinel talked to that only used his ears to analyze the samples?
 
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