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(Fox News)   Stop me if you've heard this one before: A group of veterans, acting totally on their own of course and not as an arm of any political campaign, has organized to express their outrage over how the president is handling his military record   (politics.blogs.foxnews.com) divider line 170
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2012-05-04 02:35:55 PM
DeaH: They played this card way too soon. All it takes to counter this is a commercial with some former Navy Seal talking about how gutsy Obama's call was and then mentioning that Romney is on record saying he wouldn't so the same.

Romney is on record taking all sides to every issue. He truly is the best candidate, as he is all things to all people at all times. However, as an actual office holder that must take a single position, any single position, on specific subjects and then fight to see them realized, not so much.
 
2012-05-04 02:36:14 PM
 
2012-05-04 02:36:14 PM
Good, the more they want to differentiate the party that starts wars from the party that wins them, all the better.
 
2012-05-04 02:36:24 PM
Arends, a Bronze Medal veteran who in 2004 served as an infantry Platoon Leader in Baghdad, said the president is "doing a dance in the end zone now with Brian Williams in the Situation Room and we think it's all in an effort to help his campaign and instead he should be giving the real credit to the real heroes who made the kill of bin Laden possible."

Obama apparently took all of his punctuation away.
 
2012-05-04 02:38:29 PM
Just out of curiosity, why does FOX News persist with the "Usama" spelling instead of the more globally-accepted "Osama" spelling?

Can I ask, also, who the fark actually plans to vote for Romney because they either like him or believe that Romney would actually make a good president? Seriously. Any of you Farkers plan to vote for Romney because you believe in Romney or are you just voting against Obama?
 
2012-05-04 02:40:58 PM
FTFA:"What you've seen from President Obama is he's not only spiked the football, he's signed it, he threw it up in the stands with the fans."


I'm okay with spiking the football, and then signing it. But throwing up on the fans is just a bit over the line IMHO.

preaprez.files.wordpress.com
 
2012-05-04 02:41:45 PM
amazing how these separate entities use the same metaphors and imagery
 
2012-05-04 02:49:52 PM
mrshowrules: because keeping OBL's killing in the news is a winning GOP strategy

They should also remind voters that Obama was a socialist when he saved GM


Oh, Obama did that? Before he was president. That's cool, can I get in on some of this going back in time stuff?
 
2012-05-04 02:51:07 PM
I like how we are >100 posts into this thread and there has only been one extremely feeble troll attempt by the Fark League of Fail.

Even they can't defend this type of swiftboating crap.
 
2012-05-04 02:53:33 PM
Number of bin Laden's killed by GOP Presidents: ZERO.
 
2012-05-04 02:54:05 PM
IrateShadow: She comes in colors everywhere: All the Republicans who are actually qualified are sitting this one out and waiting four years.

They should have at least made an attempt. Throwing this year the way that they have might decimate them downticket.


Eh this is kind of a throwaway year for the GOP. Lots of seats that are up for grabs are the Democrats' to lose.
 
2012-05-04 02:55:57 PM
As an independent and undecided voter, I had completely forgotten about Obama's successful raid that captured bin Laden. This will be important to me when I make decide who to vote for this November. I am sure glad Obama reminded me and I hope he reminds me again.
 
2012-05-04 02:56:10 PM
pacified: Number of bin Laden's killed by GOP Presidents: ZERO.

He did however let them charter planes out of the country while the rest of the country's air traffic was grounded.
 
2012-05-04 02:58:39 PM
rufus-t-firefly: Arends, a Bronze Medal veteran who in 2004 served as an infantry Platoon Leader in Baghdad, said the president is "doing a dance in the end zone now with Brian Williams in the Situation Room and we think it's all in an effort to help his campaign and instead he should be giving the real credit to the real heroes who made the kill of bin Laden possible."

Obama apparently took all of his punctuation away.


he's anti-commanist
 
2012-05-04 03:03:30 PM
From the front page of their site:

"Help is on the way for the military if GOP primary candidate Mitt Romney is elected President."

"Obama's Lowest Priority: The Military and National Defense"

Copyright info from their web site: "© 2012 Veterans for a Strong America"
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So yah, seems totally unbiased and transparent. Must be legit
 
2012-05-04 03:07:13 PM
Joel Arends sounds like a Bush era shill who was given his medal as a political reward. I can understand why conservatives would look up to him given that he sounds like a verminous sack of crap.

They probably gave him Pat Tillman's medal after they killed Tillman.
 
2012-05-04 03:09:13 PM
Link

FB Page
 
2012-05-04 03:12:46 PM
I alone am best: mrshowrules: because keeping OBL's killing in the news is a winning GOP strategy

They should also remind voters that Obama was a socialist when he saved GM

Oh, Obama did that? Before he was president. That's cool, can I get in on some of this going back in time stuff?


So GWB saved GM? Or was there another President between GWB and BHO?
 
2012-05-04 03:14:31 PM
This group of turds "Veterans for a Strong America" is the face of a super PAC 501(c)(4) which is not required to disclose funding sources.

You can thank the SCOTUS and Citizens United for this and the many more cheap shot so-called grass roots groups that are going to be popping up.

Here is how "grass roots" their chairman is:
Joel A. Arends, a "13-year National Guard veteran", served in Baghdad, Iraq, "from 2003 - 2005 ... with the 1st Cav Division as an Infantry Platoon Leader and eventually as Company Commander."
Arends is listed in May 2007 as a paid staffer for Republican 2008 presidential hopeful John McCain. At an August 8, 2007, O'Brien County Republican Summer Gala in Paullina, Iowa, Arends was described as "now a surrogate for Senator McCain's campaign".
Arends, "who unsuccessfully ran for the Iowa [Statehouse] while living in Sioux City in 2000", is cited in an August 14, 2007, e-letter as National Field Director of the pro-war in Iraq Republican front group Vets for Freedom.
Also in August 2007, Arends was identified as the replacement for Craig Dewey as Americans for Prosperity's South Dakota Assistant State Director.
He is a member of and has previously worked with Families United for Our Troops and Their Mission, another pro-war in Iraq organization. -SourceWatch.
 
2012-05-04 03:15:11 PM
Muta: As an independent and undecided voter, I had completely forgotten about Obama's successful raid that captured bin Laden. This will be important to me when I make decide who to vote for this November. I am sure glad Obama reminded me and I hope he reminds me again.

Actually Obama didn't do much to bring this up. He mentioned it in one speech and had 1 internet ad regarding this. It has been the GOP that has kept this in the news. So you can thank the GOP for constantly reminding you of it.
 
2012-05-04 03:15:48 PM
Remember, Caesar, that thou art mortal.
 
2012-05-04 03:23:57 PM
dr_blasto: Can I ask, also, who the fark actually plans to vote for Romney because they either like him or believe that Romney would actually make a good president? Seriously. Any of you Farkers plan to vote for Romney because you believe in Romney or are you just voting against Obama?

I am an independent undecided voter and if Romney were elected, I'd be OK with it, I guess. A Romney presidency would be better than living a life with herpes or having to put a beloved family pet down.
 
i^2
2012-05-04 03:29:28 PM
Muta: As an independent and undecided voter...

You sound concerned.
 
2012-05-04 03:30:52 PM
Muta: dr_blasto: Can I ask, also, who the fark actually plans to vote for Romney because they either like him or believe that Romney would actually make a good president? Seriously. Any of you Farkers plan to vote for Romney because you believe in Romney or are you just voting against Obama?

I am an independent undecided voter and if Romney were elected, I'd be OK with it, I guess. A Romney presidency would be better than living a life with herpes or having to put a beloved family pet down.


given the choice between another GOP president and putting down fluffly, I say hand me the needle.
 
2012-05-04 03:31:41 PM
Muta: A Romney presidency would be better than living a life with herpes or having to put a beloved family pet down.

Romney 2012: Better than herpes
 
2012-05-04 03:31:49 PM
I alone am best: mrshowrules: because keeping OBL's killing in the news is a winning GOP strategy

They should also remind voters that Obama was a socialist when he saved GM

Oh, Obama did that? Before he was president. That's cool, can I get in on some of this going back in time stuff?


Not sure if serious.
 
2012-05-04 03:32:13 PM
rudemix: Link

FB Page


I'm really tempted to troll the hell out of that page.

This is politics at its worst...
 
2012-05-04 03:34:15 PM
qorkfiend: Muta: A Romney presidency would be better than living a life with herpes or having to put a beloved family pet down.

Romney 2012: Better than herpes


Hahahahaha. Good god, that's the best campaign slogan EVER. I need to get that on a bumper sticker!
 
2012-05-04 03:37:14 PM
The GOP is scared shiatless because their nominee invented Obamacare, is on the record stating that he wouldn't have saved GM and wouldn't have approved the mission to kill bin Laden, made a fortune off of putting Americans out of work, and is a prominent member of a church that most of the GOP's base considers a cult.

They will pull every desperate trick they can imagine to dig themselves out of this hole.
 
2012-05-04 03:37:42 PM
qorkfiend: Muta: A Romney presidency would be better than living a life with herpes or having to put a beloved family pet down.

Romney 2012: Better than herpes


Romney 2012: At least the dog won't shiat on the roof again.
 
2012-05-04 03:37:55 PM
Muta: dr_blasto: Can I ask, also, who the fark actually plans to vote for Romney because they either like him or believe that Romney would actually make a good president? Seriously. Any of you Farkers plan to vote for Romney because you believe in Romney or are you just voting against Obama?

I am an independent undecided voter and if Romney were elected, I'd be OK with it, I guess. A Romney presidency would be better than living a life with herpes or having to put a beloved family pet down.


Inspirational support. Personally, I can't imagine a real-world scenario that could ever convince me to vote for Romney. If Obama did the dead girl/live boy thing or any one thing so horrendous that I'd want that monster imprisoned or worse, I would just vote third party even knowing that would be tantamount to re-electing Obama.
 
2012-05-04 03:38:17 PM
i47.tinypic.com
 
2012-05-04 03:39:02 PM
Mrtraveler01: rudemix: Link

FB Page

I'm really tempted to troll the hell out of that page.

This is politics at its worst...


There are some subtle ones there. I'm not sure if they've deleted the more obvious ones. It's disturbing reading. Not just from their slimey way they represent as some independant grass roots organization but the knuckledraggers who post in there that believe it

"@Steve W Allen, OBL was neutered, a fate worse than death for him! Do you really think our intelligence community just let him be? If that was the case he would still be alive! Use your brain!"

What I get out of that is we had Obama neutralized and it was worse than dying to him. Thanks Obama, for screwing up such an awesome plan. Nutjobs
 
2012-05-04 03:39:16 PM
MFK: does anyone else find it ironic that this group is politicizing veterans by pretending to speak for all of them?

Was about to say that.

The GOP is politicizing Veterans.
 
2012-05-04 03:41:17 PM
IrateShadow: DeaH: They played this card way too soon. All it takes to counter this is a commercial with some former Navy Seal talking about how gutsy Obama's call was and then mentioning that Romney is on record saying he wouldn't so the same. No, the vet card only works as an October surprise. This early in the game, it's too easy to trace the cash and counter the move.

This far out, they probably have enough time to call in one of the ST6 members that was part of the raid.


Well, they could, but 0bama had all of the Seals involved killed. Hindsight sucks.
 
2012-05-04 03:43:53 PM
red5ish: This group of turds "Veterans for a Strong America" is the face of a super PAC 501(c)(4) which is not required to disclose funding sources.

You can thank the SCOTUS and Citizens United for this and the many more cheap shot so-called grass roots groups that are going to be popping up.

Here is how "grass roots" their chairman is:
Arends is listed in May 2007 as a paid staffer for Republican 2008 presidential hopeful John McCain. At an August 8, 2007, O'Brien County Republican Summer Gala in Paullina, Iowa, Arends was described as "now a surrogate for Senator McCain's campaign".
Arends, "who unsuccessfully ran for the Iowa [Statehouse] while living in Sioux City in 2000", is cited in an August 14, 2007, e-letter as National Field Director of the pro-war in Iraq Republican front group Vets for Freedom.


Republicans are politicizing Veterans!
 
2012-05-04 03:46:18 PM
BTW, having a working frontal-cortex, I'm not actually outraged.
 
2012-05-04 03:47:49 PM
panetta's memo

"Received phone call from Tom Donilon who stated that the President made a decision with regard to AC1 [Abbottabad Compound 1]. The decision is to proceed with the assault. The timing, operational decision making and control are in Admiral McRaven's hands.

[If things go bad, it's McRaven's ass]not part of memeo

The approval is provided on the risk profile presented to the President. Any additional risks are to be brought back to the President for his consideration. The direction is to go in and get bin Laden and if he is not there, to get out. Those instructions were conveyed to Admiral McRaven at approximately 10:45 am."


obama covered his ass.
 
2012-05-04 03:53:36 PM
colon_pow: panetta's memo

"Received phone call from Tom Donilon who stated that the President made a decision with regard to AC1 [Abbottabad Compound 1]. The decision is to proceed with the assault. The timing, operational decision making and control are in Admiral McRaven's hands.

[If things go bad, it's McRaven's ass]not part of memeo

The approval is provided on the risk profile presented to the President. Any additional risks are to be brought back to the President for his consideration. The direction is to go in and get bin Laden and if he is not there, to get out. Those instructions were conveyed to Admiral McRaven at approximately 10:45 am."


obama covered his ass.


Exactly how is this Obama covering his ass? Obama put the operation in the hands of the person who was most qualified to oversee carrying it out. Unless of course you think that Obama should have been calling all of the shots himself.
 
2012-05-04 03:55:06 PM
colon_pow: panetta's memo

"Received phone call from Tom Donilon who stated that the President made a decision with regard to AC1 [Abbottabad Compound 1]. The decision is to proceed with the assault. The timing, operational decision making and control are in Admiral McRaven's hands.

[If things go bad, it's McRaven's ass]not part of memeo

The approval is provided on the risk profile presented to the President. Any additional risks are to be brought back to the President for his consideration. The direction is to go in and get bin Laden and if he is not there, to get out. Those instructions were conveyed to Admiral McRaven at approximately 10:45 am."


obama covered his ass.


And stepped up to cover everyone else, as well.
 
2012-05-04 03:56:23 PM
I know a Republican "veteran". He was in the Navy Reserve for three years washing windshields at Miramar one weekend a month. No other job. Did the normal two weeks on a carrier. But to hear him he was a bad-ass Plane Captain who singlehandedly serviced and saved half of the aging F-14 and F-4 reserve component. Oh wait, he never mentioned the F-4s, just the Tomcats, even though the F-4s made up half of his reserve squadron.

He is "Mr. Veteran" because he relates everything...everything to those three years of one weekend a month. He can't get a job? Discrimination against veterans. Me? I was a "life-long civilian", said in the most sneering manner possible. He recently applied to "Heroes to Hired" in an attempt to get his first real job. He's 42 and has worked part time as a janitor for 10 years now at a sporting goods store. Well, less than part time, because he generally only puts in 2 hours a day. I'm sure he'll join this group to defend the honor of the Nay Reserve (he never told us this, BTW. He was very secretive about his actual service title and unit, wonder why?)
He didn't even get the National Defense Ribbon because they kicked his ass out just before Desert Storm. Oh, and if you didn't know, in his day and for his MOS the Naval Reserve apparently did not do basic training. So he never had that either.
 
2012-05-04 03:57:00 PM
ongbok: colon_pow: panetta's memo

"Received phone call from Tom Donilon who stated that the President made a decision with regard to AC1 [Abbottabad Compound 1]. The decision is to proceed with the assault. The timing, operational decision making and control are in Admiral McRaven's hands.

[If things go bad, it's McRaven's ass]not part of memeo

The approval is provided on the risk profile presented to the President. Any additional risks are to be brought back to the President for his consideration. The direction is to go in and get bin Laden and if he is not there, to get out. Those instructions were conveyed to Admiral McRaven at approximately 10:45 am."


obama covered his ass.

Exactly how is this Obama covering his ass? Obama put the operation in the hands of the person who was most qualified to oversee carrying it out. Unless of course you think that Obama should have been calling all of the shots himself.


what i'm saying is, if the raid was not successful, obama would simply point to this memo and say that the additional risks were not brought to him for consideration.
McRaven went rogue.
problem solved.
 
2012-05-04 04:04:23 PM
Muta: dr_blasto: Can I ask, also, who the fark actually plans to vote for Romney because they either like him or believe that Romney would actually make a good president? Seriously. Any of you Farkers plan to vote for Romney because you believe in Romney or are you just voting against Obama?

I am an independent undecided voter and if Romney were elected, I'd be OK with it, I guess. A Romney presidency would be better than living a life with herpes or having to put a beloved family pet down.


I didn't realize those were candidates on the ballot... Man, I really need to check out the news more.
 
2012-05-04 04:06:24 PM
They're just throwing a fit because Obama just contradicted their "Obama=Osama" joke/talking point in the hardest way possible. But I will say the downplaying something they rode the coattails on for 8 years just because the other side actually did it isn't going to fare well for them.
 
2012-05-04 04:07:36 PM
WizardofToast: They're just throwing a fit because Obama just contradicted their "Obama=Osama" joke/talking point in the hardest way possible. But I will say the downplaying something they rode the coattails on for 8 years just because the other side actually did it isn't going to fare well for them.

Name easily confused with someone else? KILL THE SOMEONE ELSE.
 
2012-05-04 04:10:48 PM
qorkfiend: WizardofToast: They're just throwing a fit because Obama just contradicted their "Obama=Osama" joke/talking point in the hardest way possible. But I will say the downplaying something they rode the coattails on for 8 years just because the other side actually did it isn't going to fare well for them.

Name easily confused with someone else? KILL THE SOMEONE ELSE.


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Seems like there should be more, right? Hmm...
 
2012-05-04 04:11:49 PM
colon_pow: what i'm saying is, if the raid was not successful, obama would simply point to this memo and say that the additional risks were not brought to him for consideration.
McRaven went rogue.
problem solved.


Yes, blaming the military for a failed mission is a tremendous campaign decision that Obama would no doubt jump right on.
 
2012-05-04 04:16:58 PM
ongbok: colon_pow: panetta's memo

"Received phone call from Tom Donilon who stated that the President made a decision with regard to AC1 [Abbottabad Compound 1]. The decision is to proceed with the assault. The timing, operational decision making and control are in Admiral McRaven's hands.

[If things go bad, it's McRaven's ass]not part of memeo

The approval is provided on the risk profile presented to the President. Any additional risks are to be brought back to the President for his consideration. The direction is to go in and get bin Laden and if he is not there, to get out. Those instructions were conveyed to Admiral McRaven at approximately 10:45 am."


obama covered his ass.

Exactly how is this Obama covering his ass? Obama put the operation in the hands of the person who was most qualified to oversee carrying it out. Unless of course you think that Obama should have been calling all of the shots himself.


Clearly he should have called on colon_pow to advise him.
 
2012-05-04 04:25:04 PM
mrshowrules: Clearly he should have called on colon_pow to advise him.

Let's not forget that a "colon_pow" is just inches away from a "cockpunch"
 
2012-05-04 04:48:36 PM
Deucednuisance: mrshowrules: Clearly he should have called on colon_pow to advise him.

Let's not forget that a "colon_pow" is just inches away from a "cockpunch"


Or moments away from a ruined pair of shorts.
 
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