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(Spin Magazine)   Spin magazine's top 100 guitarists of all time. Skrillex is #100, Jam Master Jay is #10, and no Hendrix, Page, or Van Halen in sight. Oooh, edgy   (spin.com) divider line 313
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2012-05-04 09:48:25 AM  

Gunny Highway: Bhasayate: Gunny Highway: Beulah Balbricker: Why the hell was this man not on that list?

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Fark Spin Magazine!

They explained why.

Their explanation is lame.

Lame or not, they explain it. Go through the list and find something you may like. If you find one band you didnt know about it was worth it.

I dont get why people want to see the same reordered list over and over.

/I am guilty of it too.


If they billed the list "a list of artists you wouldn't or shouldn't find on a list of 100 greatest guitar players of ALL TIME but you should check out anyway", I'd be OK with this.
 
2012-05-04 09:48:48 AM  
The list didn't fail. They will generate a ton of clicks from angry people over it.
 
2012-05-04 09:49:30 AM  

Allansfirebird: Eric Clapton
Paul Kossof
Brian May
Allen Collins/Gary Rossington/Ed King/Steve Gaines
Stevie Ray Vaughn
Kirk Hammett/James Hetfield
Slash
Derek Trucks/Duane Allman/Warren Haynes
Sonny Landreth
Doyle Bramhall II
Eddie Van Halen
Angus Young/Malcolm Young
Buddy Guy
Brad Paisley
Keith Urban
Tom Morello
Joe Perry
George Harrison
Donald "Buck Dharma" Roeser
Carlos Santana
Mark Knopfler
Joe Walsh
Jimi Hendrix
Jimmy Page
Randy Rhoads
Peter Frampton
Billy Gibbons

There, I've already made a better list. Do I get a paycheck, Spin?


Great list. Glad you included Vaughn, Knopfler and Walsh.
 
2012-05-04 09:49:35 AM  

Glitchwerks: The list didn't fail. They will generate a ton of clicks from angry people over it.


I didn't click on it. "It's evil!" =p
 
2012-05-04 09:50:08 AM  

Gunny Highway: Lame or not, they explain it. Go through the list and find something you may like. If you find one band you didnt know about it was worth it.

I dont get why people want to see the same reordered list over and over.




pretty much this. This list is catered towards the Punk/Indie genre, any guitarist not relevant to those genres is discarded. Though i would argue that Hendrix belongs, it does get rather old seeing him in the #1 spot all the time.
 
2012-05-04 09:53:55 AM  
static.themetapicture.com

this skrillex music sucks though...
 
2012-05-04 09:55:23 AM  
Skrillex as number 100 because, according to the article, "But no contemporary musician has a more primal understanding of adrenaline-pumping, pulse-raising, chest-caving bulldozer riffs than dubstep mosh ambassador Skrillex."

I stopped reading shortly after that. He is the worst of the worst even in his own genre. The man is popular because better musicians made his music, and he had a built in target audience(Emo kids) courtesy of his relatively popular emo band(from first to last).

Can we stop heaping praise onto an artist who makes my preferred genre of music look like nothing but a bunch of tweakers. Seriously not even E can make his music sound good. You have to step up the big leagues and get some Crystal Meth to hang with Skrillex.
 
2012-05-04 09:56:49 AM  
It is a hipster list.

What gave it away was including Syd Barrett. Syd was many things, but an amazing guitarist he was not.
 
2012-05-04 10:00:20 AM  
d'oh... just another html casualty
 
2012-05-04 10:03:47 AM  
Someone finally had the courage to say Billy Corgan is better than Vernon Reid.

/Sure, it's moronic
//but quite brave
 
2012-05-04 10:06:06 AM  
No Richard Thompson, Nick Drake, Django Reinhardt, Charlie Christian, Danny Gatton, Roy Buchanan, Mark Knopfler, Eddie Van Halen, Leo Kottke, Jimi Hendrix.

This is a bullshiat list.
 
2012-05-04 10:09:05 AM  

Gunny Highway: Did anyone read the introduction (I didnt the first time)?

They put together a pretty interesting list. Instead of biatching about it, why not try to find something new? You may just like it.

Really, how interesting is it to see the same "Greatest" list for the 1000th time?


An interesting pile of shiat is still a pile of shiat. This list is shiat. I don't even mind that not so good guitarists like Cobain are on lists like these, because we can debate the merits of his skills compared to others. But putting the guy who uses a rake on his guitar or Skrillex who really isn't a guitar player at all is nonsense.

I'd rather see the same kind of "best" list we usually see, because some actual discussion comes from it.
 
2012-05-04 10:10:30 AM  
they're trolling us, aren't they?
 
2012-05-04 10:10:39 AM  

Beulah Balbricker: Why the hell was this man not on that list?

[i111.photobucket.com image 500x500] (Gilmour pic)

Fark Spin Magazine!


He was replaced by Syd Barrett for spot 58.

If the list was trying so hard to be alt and edgy, what the hell were Cobain, Prince, Young and Zappa doing on it?
 
2012-05-04 10:11:16 AM  
Am I the only one that envisions the article being written by a guy in horn rims, a pork pie hat, a vintage guayabara shirt sipping a farking latte while typing this stupid list on is macbook from some fair trade compliant speakeasy coffee house?
 
2012-05-04 10:11:32 AM  

Some Bass Playing Guy: I'd rather see the same kind of "best" list we usually see, because some actual discussion comes from it.


Like what? I have seen that thread a million times and it is the same biatching and moaning about how the people who compiled it are "hipsters" or have no idea. There is some good stuff on this list.
 
2012-05-04 10:12:16 AM  
Whatever.
 
2012-05-04 10:13:02 AM  
No Paco De Lucia? Al DiMeola? Robert Johnson? Hettfield? Andres Segovia? Vai? Satriani? David Gilmour?

What the fark is wrong with these asshole farking hipsters? Are they completely tone farking deaf?

As a consummate guitarist of 18 years, I found this list downright offensive.
 
2012-05-04 10:13:51 AM  
The problem with lists is that they don't account for or separate on genre. It's really hard to figure out if a jazz guitarist is better than a rock guitarist if the two never meet on a musical plane.

Personally, the closest I can think of to any top guitarist list would consider their overall influence and impact on guitar across the entire music spectrum over time. That list would basically have:

Chuck Berry and Jimi Hendrix at the top, because they essentially wrote the entire rock guitar vocabulary. What Berry started, Hendrix took to another level, and rock hasn't really exceeded or changed anything those two haven't already done. Sure the guitars got louder over time but the licks are essentially the same.

Robert Johnson and Wes Montgomery, for they're the two guys where, if you want to learn blues and jazz respectively, their music is the most accessible, well known place to start.

Merle Travis for basically creating hybrid picking, aka Travis picking.

Les Paul goes on there for his inventiveness and engineering genius.

Chet Atkins for expanding country guitar's range, and being a huge hitmaker and producer in Nashville.

Tony Iommi gets a nod for basically laying down the foundation of heavy metal as a separate genre from rock.

Eric Clapton gets a spot for causing a million kids to start playing guitar and form bands.

Quorthon should get a spot, because his music is a huge fork where metal breaks off into thrash, death, viking, black, extreme metal and other subgenres.

Eddie Van Halen for essentially defining heavy metal and hard rock lead guitar, and how it is separate from classic rock and blues-influenced rock guitar.

Johnny Ramone for making the clean break between punk rock and the rest of rock, and for eschewing everything but bare-bones rock essentials.

I don't know, those are just a few ideas. I'm not going to sit here all day and come up with more.
 
2012-05-04 10:14:22 AM  

Gunny Highway: Some Bass Playing Guy: I'd rather see the same kind of "best" list we usually see, because some actual discussion comes from it.

Like what? I have seen that thread a million times and it is the same biatching and moaning about how the people who compiled it are "hipsters" or have no idea. There is some good stuff on this list.


The good stuff is there by accident, or because they failed to fail harder. Broken clocks are correct twice a day, throw a rock, you'll hit someone guilty. etc. blah blah
 
2012-05-04 10:15:49 AM  

Gunny Highway: vegasman2000: come on--no way they are serious with this. has to be trolling. No one is that ignorant of guitar players. And the utter disregard for Blues greats, who basically invented every guitar technique, underscores this.

Opening:

To celebrate the new generation of shredders profiled in our May/June "Loud Issue," the SPIN staff decided to find some wheedle in a haystack, taking on the impossible task of ranking our favorite guitar players of all time. Traditionally, the "greatest guitarist" timeline begins with Robert Johnson magically conjuring the blues, nears perfection with Eric Clapton mutating it beatifically, and then ultimately reaches a boomer-baiting Rock and Roll Hall of Fame apotheosis with the free-spirited Jimi Hendrix shooting it into space like feedback-laden fireworks. For this list, we veer toward the alternative canon that kicks in with the Velvet Underground trying to erase that form entirely, making guitar solos gauche and using instruments as sadomasochistic tools for hammering out sheets of white heat.

As you will see, our list embraces outsiders, trailblazers, outliers, and Eugene Chadbourne playing a rake. We don't worship "guitar gods," but prefer our axe-wielders to be resourceful, egalitarian, flawed, and human. We're not drawn to Olympic feats of fleet-fingered athletics, unless they're used for unique and exploratory ends. We see the mewling histrionics of Jeff Beck as tyranny instead of catharsis. The name Derek Trucks is practically alien to us.

At least they are honest about what the list was supposed to be.


But nobody reads that...they just go straight into the misplaced hate.

But since we're listing our favorites, check out Casey Jones. Kid has only been playing about 6 years and is on his way to being a guitar god.

Link
 
2012-05-04 10:16:13 AM  
Well, at least they got Steve Albini on the list.

But...The Edge? A list that includes The Edge and Black Flag? I think Henry Rollins would have something to say about that:

Henry Rollins U2 Rant (NSFW Language)

/Top 100 post-70's guitarists that may or may not know anything about playing guitar, but can at least make interesting noises with said instrument?
 
2012-05-04 10:17:01 AM  
Darrell Abbott.

Hipster list is fail.
 
2012-05-04 10:17:18 AM  
at least they put Dimebag on there...have you heard the newly released song from the Vulgar sessions..Piss?

/don't agree with the list, but I will check some of them out
//already listened to some Sightings...noise rock bullsh*t
 
2012-05-04 10:17:25 AM  
there is some good stuff on the list but they left a lot off and I definitely think they were trolling
the inclusion of non-guitarists is dumb but i appreciate the nod to those who view/play their instrument in a different way
 
2012-05-04 10:21:47 AM  

maxwellhauser: /Top 100 post-70's guitarists that may or may not know anything about playing guitar, but can at least make interesting noises with said instrument?


Exactly. Self indulgent "artsy" (i.e. "atonal") noise rock and tone manipulation does not equal good guitar playing. It would be nice if a list of greatest guitarists ever could have more people that could actually, you know, play.
 
2012-05-04 10:23:01 AM  

Gunny Highway: Like what? I have seen that thread a million times and it is the same biatching and moaning about how the people who compiled it are "hipsters" or have no idea. There is some good stuff on this list.


You know what they could've done? Real easy -- simply rename the list "Top 100 Underrated Guitarists of All Time". That's it. Argument's over. All complaints about Hendrix/Clapton/the-usual-mainstays being absent in these sorts of "best of" lists is completely squelched by the listmaker's desire to feature great guitarists that nobody knows about. Of course, then they'd have to drop Young, Prince, Morello, Corgan, and some of the other well knowns, but the vast majority of the list is pretty solid as is. So long as its just a "top 100 that you may have not heard of" rather than a "top 100 bestest ever".

It's not the list itself that's wrong. It's what the list is purported as being.
 
2012-05-04 10:25:27 AM  

OgreMagi: Wow. They have people on that list that barely know how to hold a guitar, let alone play it. Obviously this list was created with the help of a lot of tequila and drugs.

If I had a subscription to Spin, I would cancel it over this.


I am contemplating buying a subscription just so I can cancel it over this.
 
2012-05-04 10:25:30 AM  

Ishkur: Gunny Highway: Like what? I have seen that thread a million times and it is the same biatching and moaning about how the people who compiled it are "hipsters" or have no idea. There is some good stuff on this list.

You know what they could've done? Real easy -- simply rename the list "Top 100 Underrated Guitarists of All Time". That's it. Argument's over. All complaints about Hendrix/Clapton/the-usual-mainstays being absent in these sorts of "best of" lists is completely squelched by the listmaker's desire to feature great guitarists that nobody knows about. Of course, then they'd have to drop Young, Prince, Morello, Corgan, and some of the other well knowns, but the vast majority of the list is pretty solid as is. So long as its just a "top 100 that you may have not heard of" rather than a "top 100 bestest ever".

It's not the list itself that's wrong. It's what the list is purported as being.


When you say Young I hope you mean Malcolm. That dude is more ACDC than Angus. Though Angus is solid too.
 
2012-05-04 10:28:19 AM  
List fails w/o:

www.progarchives.com
 
2012-05-04 10:29:57 AM  

H31N0US: Ishkur: Gunny Highway: Like what? I have seen that thread a million times and it is the same biatching and moaning about how the people who compiled it are "hipsters" or have no idea. There is some good stuff on this list.

You know what they could've done? Real easy -- simply rename the list "Top 100 Underrated Guitarists of All Time". That's it. Argument's over. All complaints about Hendrix/Clapton/the-usual-mainstays being absent in these sorts of "best of" lists is completely squelched by the listmaker's desire to feature great guitarists that nobody knows about. Of course, then they'd have to drop Young, Prince, Morello, Corgan, and some of the other well knowns, but the vast majority of the list is pretty solid as is. So long as its just a "top 100 that you may have not heard of" rather than a "top 100 bestest ever".

It's not the list itself that's wrong. It's what the list is purported as being.

When you say Young I hope you mean Malcolm. That dude is more ACDC than Angus. Though Angus is solid too.


If he's going by the list, it's actually Neil.
 
2012-05-04 10:35:28 AM  
You know, sometimes they're not all hipsters. Sometimes, it's just that you're old and irrelevant. Happens to us all, chill out.


Nobody wants to be on your damned lawn, any way.
 
2012-05-04 10:36:29 AM  

Some Bass Playing Guy: I'd rather see the same kind of "best" list we usually see, because some actual discussion comes from it.


there is 180 replies to this thread
/mindblown.gif

most other similar lists generally involve the same kind of "nuh uh! where's [guitarist]?!" type responses. Frankly, I would prefer this seeing yet another list with Hendrix at the top and Van Halen, Page, Townshend being reshuffled in the top 10.
 
2012-05-04 10:36:35 AM  

Gulper Eel: Steve Cropper.
Steve Howe.
Steve Hackett.
Steve Miller.
Steve Vai.


Steven Wilson
Steve Morse
Stevie Ray Vaughan
Steve Gaines

/need one more for top 10
 
2012-05-04 10:37:17 AM  
Spin: trolling for page views.
 
2012-05-04 10:38:20 AM  
Some that I would have included:
Wata (Boris)
Kurt Ballou (Converge) (He's like the Steve Albini of hardcore and metal)
Mary Timony (Helium/Wild Flag)
 
2012-05-04 10:39:05 AM  

Mr_Fabulous: Gulper Eel: Steve Cropper.
Steve Howe.
Steve Hackett.
Steve Miller.
Steve Vai.

Steven Wilson
Steve Morse
Stevie Ray Vaughan
Steve Gaines

/need one more for top 10


Steve Albini!!!

There, that's 10.
 
2012-05-04 10:40:09 AM  
Weird list but it's nice to see Fahey make the top 10 on one of these -- he rarely gets the recognition he deserves
 
2012-05-04 10:40:27 AM  

Allansfirebird: Eric Clapton
Paul Kossof
Brian May
Allen Collins/Gary Rossington/Ed King/Steve Gaines
Stevie Ray Vaughn
Kirk Hammett/James Hetfield
Slash
Derek Trucks/Duane Allman/Warren Haynes
Sonny Landreth
Doyle Bramhall II
Eddie Van Halen
Angus Young/Malcolm Young
Buddy Guy
Brad Paisley
Keith Urban
Tom Morello
Joe Perry
George Harrison
Donald "Buck Dharma" Roeser
Carlos Santana
Mark Knopfler
Joe Walsh
Jimi Hendrix
Jimmy Page
Randy Rhoads
Peter Frampton
Billy Gibbons

There, I've already made a better list. Do I get a paycheck, Spin?


not bad, I very much agree, with Brad Paisley, and Keith Urban, country players never seem to get enough credit, but these two can burn

I would also add Joe Bonamassa (even if he comes off as a prick)
John Mayer (even if he is a d-bag)
and Jeff Healey
 
2012-05-04 10:43:01 AM  

Mr_Fabulous: Gulper Eel: Steve Cropper.
Steve Howe.
Steve Hackett.
Steve Miller.
Steve Vai.

Steven Wilson
Steve Morse
Stevie Ray Vaughan
Steve Gaines

/need one more for top 10


Steve-O
Level with me, I'm not sure he actually plays a guitar but his narcisistic, self-destructive attitude is what Rock is all about!
 
2012-05-04 10:50:37 AM  
Any list that mentions a Rap/Hip Hop guitarist as one of the top 100 guitarists of all time is a piece of shiat.
 
2012-05-04 10:55:08 AM  
RE: Curt Kirkwood. I keep reading it as Kurtwood Smith. Not sure why.
 
2012-05-04 10:55:17 AM  
If Spin wanted to have some talent in their hipster picks:

Jim "Reverend Horton Heat" Heath. I know rockabilly isn't everyone's cup of tea, but this man does it better than just about anybody.

John Flansburgh.

Glad to see Zappa on there. Everyone else so far has mentioned the obvious omissions.
 
2012-05-04 10:58:58 AM  
farking stupid ass list.

No Jimi Hendrix, No Stevie Ray Vaughn, No Jimmy Page, Eric Clapton, Jeff Beck, Chuck Berry, Steve Vai, Joe Satriani, Yngwie Malmsteen, Angus Young, Kirk Hammett, Slash, Chet Atkins, Albert Lee, Roy Clark Duane Allman, Ry Cooder, BB King, Buddy Guy, David Gilmour, Wes Montgomery, Djano Reinhardt, Pat Metheny, Eric Johnson, Allan Holdsworth, Christopher Parkening, Eddie van Halen nor Andres farking Segovia.

But they got Jam Master Jay and Neil Young? WTF? Half the guitarists on this list they have suck. Spin magazine obviously knows nothing about the instrument. Fark them.
 
2012-05-04 11:04:08 AM  

nmiguy: No Jimi Hendrix, No Stevie Ray Vaughn, No Jimmy Page, Eric Clapton, Jeff Beck, Chuck Berry, Steve Vai, Joe Satriani, Yngwie Malmsteen, Angus Young, Kirk Hammett, Slash, Chet Atkins, Albert Lee, Roy Clark Duane Allman, Ry Cooder, BB King, Buddy Guy, David Gilmour, Wes Montgomery, Djano Reinhardt, Pat Metheny, Eric Johnson, Allan Holdsworth, Christopher Parkening, Eddie van Halen nor Andres farking Segovia.


they don't fit in with the parameters set out by TFA. You should read it first.


I also think it's funny how people can biatch about Hipster music but then without a hint of irony talk about a bunch of guitarists who are only known amongst other guitarists and of which only half have any kind of commercial success.
 
2012-05-04 11:04:10 AM  
Has anyone mentioned that the list fails without Jimi Hendrix, Stevie Ray Vaughn, Eddie Van Halen, and Slash?

Because I don't think it has been mentioned that the list fails with Jimi Hendrix, Stevie Ray Vaughn, Eddie Van Halen, and Slash.
 
2012-05-04 11:09:11 AM  

Gunny Highway: Some Bass Playing Guy: I'd rather see the same kind of "best" list we usually see, because some actual discussion comes from it.

Like what? I have seen that thread a million times and it is the same biatching and moaning about how the people who compiled it are "hipsters" or have no idea. There is some good stuff on this list.


The reason I say the list is shiat is because it isn't what it says it is. They could have easily put together a list of the best people who actually play guitar in the target music demographic. Instead they put together a list that includes people who are not guitarists. And don't get me started about the guy with a rake. That's guitar playing like Nigel Tufnels violin playing. That's to say that it isn't playing at all. It's noisemaking. One can argue whether it's musical or not, but he's NOT "playing" the guitar.

While the list contains some worthy names, it also contains a lot of really, really stupid choices. Skrillex does not belong on a list of guitarists. The guy from Run DMC doesn't belong on a list. I could go on, but there's no point.

Either the guy who wrote this is a nearly complete moron when it comes to music (I mean, who doesn't know it was Stevie on Bowies tune) or the list was intended to generate buzz for SPIN. In either case, the list sucks donkey ass.
 
2012-05-04 11:12:35 AM  

FeedTheCollapse: Some Bass Playing Guy: I'd rather see the same kind of "best" list we usually see, because some actual discussion comes from it.

there is 180 replies to this thread
/mindblown.gif

most other similar lists generally involve the same kind of "nuh uh! where's [guitarist]?!" type responses. Frankly, I would prefer this seeing yet another list with Hendrix at the top and Van Halen, Page, Townshend being reshuffled in the top 10.


There's a difference between arguing the merits of who's in what spot and mostly arguing that this list sucks. This thread is the latter, not the former. And like I said, SPIN could have made a great list of actual guitarists for their target music demographic quite easily. It could have avoided all of the cliche players.
 
2012-05-04 11:16:59 AM  

Some Bass Playing Guy: Gunny Highway: Some Bass Playing Guy: I'd rather see the same kind of "best" list we usually see, because some actual discussion comes from it.

Like what? I have seen that thread a million times and it is the same biatching and moaning about how the people who compiled it are "hipsters" or have no idea. There is some good stuff on this list.

The reason I say the list is shiat is because it isn't what it says it is. They could have easily put together a list of the best people who actually play guitar in the target music demographic. Instead they put together a list that includes people who are not guitarists. And don't get me started about the guy with a rake. That's guitar playing like Nigel Tufnels violin playing. That's to say that it isn't playing at all. It's noisemaking. One can argue whether it's musical or not, but he's NOT "playing" the guitar.

While the list contains some worthy names, it also contains a lot of really, really stupid choices. Skrillex does not belong on a list of guitarists. The guy from Run DMC doesn't belong on a list. I could go on, but there's no point.

Either the guy who wrote this is a nearly complete moron when it comes to music (I mean, who doesn't know it was Stevie on Bowies tune) or the list was intended to generate buzz for SPIN. In either case, the list sucks donkey ass.


Ok, so there's those three. Who are the other ones who don't "actually play guitar?" I agree that they may be poor choices, but it's not like the entire list is made up of people like that.
 
2012-05-04 11:18:53 AM  

Gunny Highway: Were these guys on there?

Dean Ween
D. Boon
Billy Zoom
Andy Kerr
Mick Jones


andy summers
 
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