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(SacBee)   California GOP calls press conference to advertise itself as "Party of Yes". Then immediately calls for "no" vote on tax proposition   (blogs.sacbee.com) divider line 271
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2012-05-03 11:28:11 PM  
Well then.
 
2012-05-03 11:45:11 PM  
 
2012-05-03 11:51:32 PM  
YES WE WON'T!
 
2012-05-03 11:53:33 PM  
NO WE CAN'T!
 
2012-05-04 12:33:57 AM  
www.insidedgw.com
 
2012-05-04 12:56:26 AM  
No we will!
 
2012-05-04 01:21:16 AM  
Republican'ts
 
2012-05-04 03:37:47 AM  
Voters blocking tax increases yet voting to spend more money the state doesn't have hasn't worked out the way you expected, has it?

/Californian
//too bad repealing Prop 13 is a non-starter.
 
2012-05-04 03:50:32 AM  
California should legalize drugs, and the drug trade.

If they regulated and taxed marijuana, meth and cocaine in that state, they would have enough money for schools and roads

The only solution is to legalize the pot in the North and legalize and regulate the traffic in meth and coke coming in from Tijuana and Mexicali, tax the cartels and stop putting thousands of violent Mexican gangsters in prisons they can't afford.

I have family who live around Temecula who have drug gangsters on their land, and family who live in Palos Verdes and bales of pot and cocaine are washing up on the beach, its ridiculous.
 
2012-05-04 04:47:41 AM  
....I miss my Tea Party.

The sane one. The one that was all "Revenues have gone up. Spending has gone up 3x as much. Huhwhazzah?"

This was before the crash. Before the 2008 election.

I guess it lasted all of five minutes before it got astroturfed. :(
 
2012-05-04 04:49:16 AM  
i262.photobucket.com
 
2012-05-04 05:02:50 AM  
Nothing screams 'fiscal responsibility' like refusing to pay for yourself.
 
2012-05-04 05:06:26 AM  
California also has stupid laws (propositions) that they can't raise property taxes, and the 3 strikes law, so their prison system is completely farked, their university system is farked, tuition is cheap compared to other states and they have some of the best universities in the country but they can't pay their teachers.

Also, people biatch about taxes there, but guess what? Who just remodeled his multi-million dollar beachfront place in La Jolla? Mitt Romney! LOL

/I shouldn't talk, my family lives in Palos Verdes.
 
2012-05-04 05:22:51 AM  
I miss my native homeland, but California's legislature is nine thousand ways of farked up.
 
2012-05-04 06:04:22 AM  

Knight of the Woeful Countenance: I miss my native homeland, but California's legislature is nine thousand ways of farked up.


www.ash-official.com
 
2012-05-04 06:04:47 AM  
It kills me how such a big state with so many natural and human resources can be bankrupt. California has agriculture, industry, military, Hollywood, Silicon Valley, etc

Most of all, California has people who come there to succeed. The Spanish, the miners, the Okies, Russians, Chinese, hippies, Mexicans, etc... Los Angeles and San Francisco are as diverse and exciting as any city in the world.

California is like the world's 9th biggest economy and it can't get it together, its sad.
 
2012-05-04 06:05:39 AM  

Knight of the Woeful Countenance: I miss my native homeland, but California's legislature is nine thousand ways of farked up.


Smell that?

That's the foetid stench of entrenched gerrymandering.
 
2012-05-04 06:07:00 AM  

vernonFL: California should legalize drugs, and the drug trade.

If they regulated and taxed marijuana, meth and cocaine in that state, they would have enough money for schools and roads

The only solution is to legalize the pot in the North and legalize and regulate the traffic in meth and coke coming in from Tijuana and Mexicali, tax the cartels and stop putting thousands of violent Mexican gangsters in prisons they can't afford.

I have family who live around Temecula who have drug gangsters on their land, and family who live in Palos Verdes and bales of pot and cocaine are washing up on the beach, its ridiculous.


As much as I have heard (and support) this argument, it has a fatal flaw in the assumption that the cartels haven't bought their way into government and law enforcement.
 
2012-05-04 06:07:29 AM  

vernonFL:

California is like the world's 9th biggest economy and it can't get it together, its sad.


France can't get it together either, and they're someplace in the top ten.

F*ck, let's go surfing and smoke weed.
 
2012-05-04 06:10:08 AM  
Daniel Bryan is a member of the California GOP?
 
2012-05-04 06:39:36 AM  
It is the party of yes, if the question is: "Do we hate women, mexicans, and peace?"
 
2012-05-04 06:44:25 AM  

vernonFL: California should legalize drugs, and the drug trade.


This was addressed in 1987.

/A Whitney Brown on SNL
 
2012-05-04 06:54:24 AM  

Knight of the Woeful Countenance: I miss my native homeland, but California's legislature is nine thousand ways of farked up.


Yeah :( There's basically no way to fix it either
 
2012-05-04 06:54:54 AM  
Party of Yes Men?
 
2012-05-04 07:06:44 AM  
Party of no:

No clue
No shame
No good ideas
 
2012-05-04 07:19:13 AM  

winterwhile: its a spending problem

not a taxing problem


get it?


Seriously man did you have a stroke or not? I mean you do these weird sentences with no punctuation. Trolling on fark just increases your risk of having another one.
 
2012-05-04 07:20:48 AM  

thatboyoverthere: winterwhile: its a spending problem

not a taxing problem


get it?

Seriously man did you have a stroke or not? I mean you do these weird sentences with no punctuation. Trolling on fark just increases your risk of having another one.


He's a mod-approved spammer.
 
2012-05-04 07:24:40 AM  

vernonFL: California should legalize drugs, and the drug trade.

If they regulated and taxed marijuana, meth and cocaine in that state, they would have enough money for schools and roads

The only solution is to legalize the pot in the North and legalize and regulate the traffic in meth and coke coming in from Tijuana and Mexicali, tax the cartels and stop putting thousands of violent Mexican gangsters in prisons they can't afford.

I have family who live around Temecula who have drug gangsters on their land, and family who live in Palos Verdes and bales of pot and cocaine are washing up on the beach, its ridiculous.


I have a question - who the hell is smoking all this ditchweed? They keep catching fools in little boats almost getting themselves drowned off the coast with bales and bales of the shiat.
Who smokes it? Anybody can get a letter and go to a clinic and get good bud. All the illegal dealers (who nobody seems to hassle much any more) have bud. The f**king crusties on the Venice Boardwalk smoke bud - and they PANHANDLE for a living.
Who smokes this glorified rope from Mexico?
 
2012-05-04 07:26:09 AM  

thatboyoverthere: winterwhile: its a spending problem

not a taxing problem


get it?

Seriously man did you have a stroke or not? I mean you do these weird sentences with no punctuation. Trolling on fark just increases your risk of having another one.


No. But if you continue to read his posts, and attempt to assign either intent or content to them, you will have one.
 
2012-05-04 07:31:41 AM  
winterwhile: its a spending problem

not a taxing problem


get it?

Aww, he thinks he's people.
 
2012-05-04 07:34:17 AM  

winterwhile: its a spending problem

not a taxing problem


get it?


I love how the people who rail against you have no rebuttal to the FACT that its a spending problem. Sorry, the economy crashed, more Americans are out of work, tax revenues are going to go down, but spending more money is gonna fix the debt/deficit... These libs who believe more taxation is gonna help are looking at the symptoms, not the cause.
 
2012-05-04 07:36:29 AM  

winterwhile: its a spending problem

not a taxing problem


get it?


Dick in the chicken

Semen and feathers remain

Best part... Forever
 
2012-05-04 07:37:30 AM  
Del Beccaro wouldn't say how much he expected the cash-strapped party to spend against the governor's measure. "I'm not concerned about the cost," he said.


*facepalm*
 
2012-05-04 07:39:44 AM  

twat_waffle: winterwhile: its a spending problem

not a taxing problem


get it?

Dick in the chicken

Semen and feathers remain

Best part... Forever


Might as well claim that it doesn't matter what your wages are, you need to buy less food..
 
2012-05-04 07:45:10 AM  

DozeNutz: winterwhile: its a spending problem

not a taxing problem


get it?

I love how the people who rail against you have no rebuttal to the FACT that its a spending problem. Sorry, the economy crashed, more Americans are out of work, tax revenues are going to go down, but spending more money is gonna fix the debt/deficit... These libs who believe more taxation is gonna help are looking at the symptoms, not the cause.


If more Americans are out of work, how do we help them? Cut taxes for corporations and the rich, which actually discourages hiring (since taxable income is figured after expenses, like payroll), or spending money on things like education, capital improvements (which we are in dire need of anyway), public assistance, and healthcare (which fees up money which can then circulate in the economy)? There is a problem with spending, specifically spending priorities and inefficient allocation of funds, but there is also a problem with revenue. Until those who control most of the wealth are made to shoulder most of the tax burden, and until it costs less to hire a new person than to make one guy do the work of three, we will have an income inequality problem and the revenue problems that comes with it.
 
2012-05-04 07:51:19 AM  
its a spending problem

not a taxing problem


What are they spending money on? Schools and prisons, which they can't afford.

What are their biggest industries? Agriculture, natural resources, Entertainment and tech companies.

The people who own and manage those industries could be taxed more. The stark contrast between Silicon Valley and Oakland or Beverly Hills and Watts is shameful.

Tech moguls and movie and music moguls, actors and musicians can pay more, trust me.
 
2012-05-04 07:51:38 AM  

vernonFL: California should legalize drugs, and the drug trade.

If they regulated and taxed marijuana, meth and cocaine in that state, they would have enough money for schools and roads

The only solution is to legalize the pot in the North and legalize and regulate the traffic in meth and coke coming in from Tijuana and Mexicali, tax the cartels and stop putting thousands of violent Mexican gangsters in prisons they can't afford.

I have family who live around Temecula who have drug gangsters on their land, and family who live in Palos Verdes and bales of pot and cocaine are washing up on the beach, its ridiculous.


ridiculous or convenient?
 
2012-05-04 07:53:19 AM  

winterwhile: its a spending problem

not a taxing problem


get it?


Yes I get it, your understanding of economics consists entirely of parroting bumper stickers.
 
2012-05-04 08:02:12 AM  
Remember when they got rid of their governor and elected an action movie star thinking he would save their economy?
 
2012-05-04 08:07:02 AM  
I hate hate hate hate hate hate hate to even lend a tiny credit to anything Winterwhile has said, but...

PRIOR THE LATEST RECESSION----

California was spending more money than it was taking in, and the spending was growing faster than the revenues - which were also growing.

This is compounded that California really is too freaking large to be a single State in the US - we've got the North on "OMG DROUGHT" so they can feed the water habits of the desert South, which go "OMG WATER EVERYWHERE".

What's the solution? I don't have one. I'll be frank about that (and possbily Charlses Winchester. Obscure?), and the fact that I haven't a damned clue where to cut the budget. California isn't the Federals, there's no big huge omgwtf item that can be cut (Military), and I do NOT want to gut our school system.

I don't think there can be a simplistic solution. I just saw a moth crawl out of the cable hole in the desk I'm in, pause for a moment, then fly off into the overhead light, bounce confusedly, then flutter all over my gatehouse. This is a metaphor for the current discussion, but I'll be damned if I could explain it.
 
2012-05-04 08:09:26 AM  

Summercat: . California isn't the Federals, there's no big huge omgwtf item that can be cut (Military), and I do NOT want to gut our school system.


So there's no big omgwtf item, as you put it, and you don't want to gut the school system...but you think it's a spending problem and not a revenue problem despite the fact that Californians haven't raised taxes in years?
 
2012-05-04 08:09:43 AM  

HotWingConspiracy: Remember when they got rid of their governor and elected an action movie star thinking he would save their economy?


Hey, I voted for Schwarnzenheimer. Grey Davis was an idiot, and had Schwanzenbach stuck to his guns in the first term, we might have seen some reform.

Now if you excuse me, I must talk to a family of trolls about this nifty bridge that they'll be interested in with lots of room for expansion, then off to Imaginationland to have tea and crumpets with Billy Idol.
 
2012-05-04 08:10:55 AM  

HotWingConspiracy: Remember when they got rid of their governor and elected an action movie star thinking he would save their economy?


I have to say, it was surreal walking through the terminal at LAX and seeing a big sign that said

"Welcome to California, Arnold Schwarzenegger, Governor"
 
2012-05-04 08:14:05 AM  
Doesn't Cali have that stupid ballot initiative system where the voters can enforce in law pretty much anything they want and then use the same system to say they won't pay for it?

Direct democracy in action!
 
2012-05-04 08:16:04 AM  
California is a massive port. It can run at a loss and still operate fine because it won't stagnate. The question is: why would the average hard-working family man not want to move there?
 
2012-05-04 08:17:04 AM  

cameroncrazy1984: Summercat: . California isn't the Federals, there's no big huge omgwtf item that can be cut (Military), and I do NOT want to gut our school system.

So there's no big omgwtf item, as you put it, and you don't want to gut the school system...but you think it's a spending problem and not a revenue problem despite the fact that Californians haven't raised taxes in years?


I'm fairly certain it's a spending problem. Unlike most trolls here, though, my schtick is furry trolling - not economics. So I'll admit I could be pants on head retarded. It's happened in the past (I once said I was for stricter gun laws in California, before someone explained to me the long and tedious process to actually purchase a firearm legally).

Another part of the problem is the perception (if it's not the reality, but I've no real way of being certain aside from pulling my act together and starting my business ideas) of California having an anti-business climate.

Now, if you ask me if I think Prop 13 should be redone, hells yes. Static taxation on homes and properties with the taxes only being reassesed when it changes hands? Fairly damned silly. On the other hand, I don't want to see homeowners who have been living in the area for forever be taxed out of their own homes if the property values were to skyrocket.

Homes in my neighborhood were, at the housing bubble peak, selling for close to Five Hundred Thousand. 500,000. They're not even homes, they're low-end condos attached to 1/3 other homes! We got ours for 115 (and my mother is hoping to sell for 180, after living there since... 92?)

It would be murder on half the people living in the neighborhood to pay taxes as if the properties were 500 grand.

I know, I know, plural of anecdote is not data. I'm just explaining why I don't want to outright nix Prop 13, although I'd like to see it modified.
 
2012-05-04 08:21:28 AM  

jso2897: I have a question - who the hell is smoking all this ditchweed? They keep catching fools in little boats almost getting themselves drowned off the coast with bales and bales of the shiat.
Who smokes it? Anybody can get a letter and go to a clinic and get good bud. All the illegal dealers (who nobody seems to hassle much any more) have bud. The f**king crusties on the Venice Boardwalk smoke bud - and they PANHANDLE for a living.
Who smokes this glorified rope from Mexico?


High school students.
 
2012-05-04 08:21:42 AM  
Heh. What is it with Republicans who think they can fix budget problems with one time revenue sources?

"I know, let's sell state assets at a loss to a campaign contributor, I SWEAR it will work this time to fix our long term problems!"
 
2012-05-04 08:22:36 AM  
Terrified Asexual Forcemeat

California is a massive port. It can run at a loss and still operate fine because it won't stagnate. The question is: why would the average hard-working family man not want to move there?


I can think of one right off the bat:
glossynews.com
 
2012-05-04 08:31:59 AM  

karnal: Terrified Asexual Forcemeat

California is a massive port. It can run at a loss and still operate fine because it won't stagnate. The question is: why would the average hard-working family man not want to move there?

I can think of one right off the bat:
[glossynews.com image 450x300]


HURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
 
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