I hope it comes with eggs.

Yo dawg I heard you got cancer

This should surprise no one. All pharmaceuticals have side affects and interfere with body's innate ability to heal.

umad: This might be the first time I have seen that tag used correctly.

Yeah, that's ironic, isn't it?

HakunaMatata: umad: This might be the first time I have seen that tag used correctly.

Like 10,000 spoons on your wedding day.

SpikeStrip: not really ironic. analogous to flu shots, cancer drugs have to give you a little bit of cancer first.

I get it. To build up your cancer immunity.

Cancer drugs? Newsflash: That radiation treatment isn't that good for you either.

Yo, dawg. I gots me a cancer drug that cures that cancer but it also gives ya other cancers, b. Ya feels me?

AbbeySomeone: This should surprise no one. All pharmaceuticals have side affects and interfere with body's innate ability to heal.

Uh, no, many drugs help that, or do things that the body cannot do itself.

You're the anti-vax crazy as well, aren't you? So you believe in all that animistic-healing bullshiat too? Awesome.

Oh. Anti-cancer.

Gothnet: Uh, no, many drugs help that, or do things that the body cannot do itself.

Question is would we need all these drugs if people took care of themselves, ate what their body needed, and exercised? I'm sure taking drugs to cover up symptoms of illness only works for awhile while the body continues to fall apart from lack of care. Not to mention a list of side effects. The body can do some extraordinary feats yet we do not allow it to..just keep popping those pills.

Are the secondary cancers malignant? If it causes little tumors to show up maybe it's worth being a side effect.

A lot of anti-cancer drugs and treatments can cause cancer. The reason is that these drugs are targeting your own body's cells --healthy cells can sustain collateral damage. It's really the risk to benefit ratio that you have to consider when selecting the treatment course. It's also partly why patients with successful treatments are called "in remission", rather than cured.

Greenbeanx: Question is would we need all these drugs if people took care of themselves, ate what their body needed, and exercised? I'm sure taking drugs to cover up symptoms of illness only works for awhile while the body continues to fall apart from lack of care. Not to mention a list of side effects."

No, that's not the question. The question is whether "All pharmaceuticals have side affects and interfere with body's innate ability to heal", which is bollocks of the highest grade.

Abso-bloody-lutely we would be better off taking care of ourselves and relying less on drugs to patch up growing physical and mental problems caused in part by bad diets and lack of exercise, no disagreement here.


"The body can do some extraordinary feats yet we do not allow it to..just keep popping those pills."

Yes, but there are limits, and we have pharmaceuticals, vaccines and medical/surgical procedures to help work around those. For example it's true that most people's bodies can fight off measles and other so-called childhood diseases without vaccination. It's also true that thousands upon thousands of children used to die or live with brain damage, blindness, sterility or other conditions that they now don't need to because we have vaccinations against these diseases.

Don't believe the lies! This is just another shill piece from Big Pharma. They don't want us to know about the cure! Wake up sheeple.

I thought they all did. I better stop reading.

As someone who works with clinical trials, yes, many cancer medications are themselves known or suspected carcinogens. I spend some of my down time at work reading through product material safety data sheets, and the precautions can be somewhat worrying from even a simple handling standpoint.

For patients, it's just a matter of focusing on dealing with the cancer that currently exists, rather than worry about some other type of cancer that may occur in the future.

Holy crap, this is older than "old news".

Hopefully we'll develop drugs that can won't harm any normal cells while trying to wipe out any variety of cancer cells, but, until then--yeah, drugs developed to damage and destroy your (unwanted) cells will sometimes harm your normal cells.

State_College_Arsonist: As someone who works with clinical trials, yes, many cancer medications are themselves known or suspected carcinogens. I spend some of my down time at work reading through product material safety data sheets, and the precautions can be somewhat worrying from even a simple handling standpoint.

For patients, it's just a matter of focusing on dealing with the cancer that currently exists, rather than worry about some other type of cancer that may occur in the future.

This. So much this. A great example of this is Acute myleoid leukemia. Without treatment, a person wouldn't even live a year. But with treatment, it has a 78% five year survival rate in adults, and they can live long enough to worry about this.

Greenbeanx: Question is would we need all these drugs if people took care of themselves, ate what their body needed, and exercised? I'm sure taking drugs to cover up symptoms of illness only works for awhile while the body continues to fall apart from lack of care. Not to mention a list of side effects. The body can do some extraordinary feats yet we do not allow it to..just keep popping those pills.

That's powerful, weapons grade derp about blaming the victim right there. Tell me more about how all drugs mearly "mask" symptoms, please.

AbbeySomeone: This should surprise no one. All pharmaceuticals have side affects and interfere with body's innate ability to heal.

Nope. Try again.

namatad: Everything gives you cancer
There's no cure, there's no answer


There's no money in curing it that's for certain. There is however a boat load of money in research though so, get in line for your ticket to the Money Train.
Last year there were over $6 Billion answers so there's that.

Marcintosh: There's no money in curing it that's for certain. There is however a boat load of money in research though so, get in line for your ticket to the Money Train.
Last year there were over $6 Billion answers so there's that.


Of course there's money in curing it.

'Cancer' is not one condition but a multiplex of different, interrelated things. Many are now much more survivable than they used to be, all due to the benefits of this research. Sneering and saying there's no cure because there's no money in it is just proudly displaying your ignorance.

Marcintosh: There's no money in curing it that's for certain. There is however a boat load of money in research though so, get in line for your ticket to the Money Train.
Last year there were over $6 Billion answers so there's that.

There will never be a cure for cancer. Do you know why? CANCER IS NOT ONE DISEASE. IT IS A BLANKET TERM FOR AN INFINITE NUMBER OF DISEASES, EACH ONE UNIQUE.

Even among specific types of cancers, they are often not treated the same. Take breast cancer. Among other things, treatment depends on what kind of androgren receptors the cells express. An Estrogen Receptor + Tumor is not treated the same as a Testosterone Receptor Tumor, which is not treated the same as a HER2+ tumor, which is not treated the same as a triple negative tumor.

In addition, do you realize the sheer amount of money that someone would make if they did develop a cure for cancer? Everyone, if they live long enough, will get cancer. Cancer will not stop. The only way to prevent cancer is to develop some form of magic which would prevent DNA damage, and repair it as it occurs.

Is that like the AIDS drug AZT given to HIV positive patients that destroys immune systems and thus causes AIDS?

"Science ain't an exact science with these clowns"

Badgerlad: Well, that sets a new standard for truth in advertising...

Think I'd rather take my chances with cigs, if those have side effects it just might be immortality.

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so half of regular smokers may die?
I've got a 50/50 chance at immortality!

AKTurkey: Yo dawg I heard you got cancer

I'm an easy audience but that's all I came in for. OUT

To be fair, it's the last thing the cancer would expect.

hitlersbrain: Is that like the AIDS drug AZT given to HIV positive patients that destroys immune systems and thus causes AIDS?


Ah, the old "meds cause AIDS" line.

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Good morning everyone!

Since this IS a cancer thread, may I please put in a shameless plug for the cancer agency that I am raising money for? Our biggest fundraiser of the year is tomorrow, and I am looking for donations. The charity is one that I volunteer at regularly, and it's called United Cancer Services of Elkhart County. It was chartered in 1953, and our website is www.ElkhartCancer.org

May I please ask you kind Farkers for a donation? My donation page is here.

Let me know if you have any questions about the agency, and I will answer them as best I can.

Thank you guys so much for considering helping!

This may be news in Canada, but in the US it has been common knowledge for about 25 years that these type drugs increase risk for future cancer.

Bone marrow xplant patients who get ATG for example can go from SAA to a full blown Leukemia 5-10 years later.

Not news. that's why they don't use these drugs without blood levels dropped to the severe range.

You think they learned nothing at NIH from the bubble boys?

Rasraf Mekerk: hitlersbrain: Is that like the AIDS drug AZT given to HIV positive patients that destroys immune systems and thus causes AIDS?


Ah, the old "meds cause AIDS" line.

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Check the side effects. It was originally an anti-cancer drug. Hopefully they don't use this anymore but they did for a long, long time. It's scary how dumb smart people can be sometimes.
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Grables'Daughter: Good morning everyone!

Since this IS a cancer thread, may I please put in a shameless plug for the cancer agency that I am raising money for? Our biggest fundraiser of the year is tomorrow, and I am looking for donations. The charity is one that I volunteer at regularly, and it's called United Cancer Services of Elkhart County. It was chartered in 1953, and our website is www.ElkhartCancer.org

May I please ask you kind Farkers for a donation? My donation page is here.

Let me know if you have any questions about the agency, and I will answer them as best I can.

Thank you guys so much for considering helping!

I don't know, I read somewhere that donating to cancer research causes cancer...