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2012-05-04 10:54:49 AM  

Vlad_the_Inaner: rynthetyn: Which "Operation Rescue" endorsed him? They don't really exist anymore, they changed their name to "Operation Save America" and started whining about gays and Muslims years ago. I guess unless Flip Benham has decided to go back to using the name because he figured he could milk more attention from it or something.

maybe this one.
Link

Operation Rescue
Newark, NJ 07101
(334) 239-2480
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/I think they started out finding home for retired racing greyhounds. I can see RONPAUL feeling empathy


Great, now I'm sad because I can't adopt all those puppies. Thanks RON PAUL.
 
2012-05-04 11:00:18 AM  
As soon as Romney makes a deal with Ron Paul for a job for Rand Paul, all of this will go away.

Ron is trying to get his son a cushy job.
 
2012-05-04 11:03:33 AM  

Dynascape: Ron Paul is meaningless. Just another establishment Republican.

Why people think he'd be any different than Newt Gingrich is beyond me.

Just some guy young kids in college who are too afraid of black people (and thus Republicans) get to like because he's "edgy" and "different".


I don't really think race has anything to do with the Paul support. I believe it's mainly due to the fact that a lot of these kids weren't paying attention to what was going on during the last election and had expectations of Obama that either weren't realistic, or weren't anything that he actually campaigned on. I think these people have fallen for the obvious RNC canard that he should have fixed all of the messes they left him by now, even though they have opposed just about anything he has tried to accomplish. Their entire modus operandi since inauguration day has been to oppose everything, force ridiculous compromise to insert obvious conservative measures into anything with even a chance at passing, and then tell everyone he's just like Bush. And a lot of gullible, low information people have swallowed it hook, line, and sinker. Why they have latched on to a long-time establishment Republican with no shot of being elected to pin their hopes on is a bit of a mystery to me, but these people actually believe that Romney and Obama are exactly the same, and Paul is completely different.

I can't help but believe that people like Rove are entirely behind the entire Paul movement. Spread dissolution among the easily manipulated young people that voted for Obama just enough to make them stay home (or vote third party) this time around. This, combined with new voter ID laws sweeping the country, could swing things Romney's way in November. And it just might work.
 
2012-05-04 11:05:47 AM  

TheShavingofOccam123: As soon as Romney makes a deal with Ron Paul for a job for Rand Paul, all of this will go away.

Ron is trying to get his son a cushy job.


The are wing nuts but they are wing nuts with some principle so I highly doubt your prediction IMHO.
 
2012-05-04 11:06:42 AM  

whidbey: Gotta say I would wish a throng of Paultards on any GOP event.


I do not wish a thong of Paultards on anyone. No sir, I do not.
 
2012-05-04 11:08:19 AM  

Philip Francis Queeg: GentDirkly: LordJiro:

Yeah, well, his CRAZY stuff will never get through Congress, but the stuff we've arbitrarily dubbed his GOOD ideas will totally get through without any sort of problem!

A more realistic argument is that President Paul will get NOTHING done. No new wars, no new taxes, renewals of tax cuts, renewal of civil rights legislation, appointment of ministers, nothing. Nothing will get done without a 2/3 vote of Congress. Many A small number of delusional people think that's a good thing.

FTFY


Accurate fix imo.
 
2012-05-04 11:11:56 AM  

fortheloveof: What I enjoy is all the Paulites that keep trying to tell me, "Ron Paul is different than other politicians! He's a man of ideals (yes their words)! He honestly believes what he says!"

When I point out he's literally stealing the election and is completely ignoring the popular vote and what the people of that state want in what is just another form of Gerrymandering they either ignore me or answer with, "But he doesn't really mean it! He's doing it for the right reasons!"


He introduced a bill to audit the fed, but voted against the final bill because of the other shiat that was added. So, in that instance, working with the system to achieve your ultimate goal was unacceptable.

However, his fans are fine with working with the system to subvert the popular vote of each state. You know, "state's rights" and all that. Fark that noise - RON PAUL must achieve power by any means necessary.

What a bunch of hypocritical little farkers.

And they call Obama "messiah." Hell, these people could lay down palm leaves for RON PAUL's steed to walk on as he enters Tampa and I wouldn't be surprised.
 
2012-05-04 11:15:47 AM  
Fark Derp Derpocrats and Fark Derp Rederpicans Last Week: BWAAAHHH...Ron Paul can't win, he is a joke, Derp Whhaaargaarrbl

Fark Derpocrats and Fark Rederpicans Today: Oh Shiat....

So funny watching Derpocrats and Rederpicans coming together over Ron Paul
 
2012-05-04 11:17:31 AM  

vernonFL: I mean, what do you say to a mother whose fetus doesn't have a brain, or something like that?


"I'm sorry Mrs Heath, but your daughter will never grow up to be President."?
 
2012-05-04 11:18:43 AM  

UCFRoadWarrior: Fark Derp Derpocrats and Fark Derp Rederpicans Last Week: BWAAAHHH...Ron Paul can't win, he is a joke, Derp Whhaaargaarrbl

Fark Derpocrats and Fark Rederpicans Today: Oh Shiat....

So funny watching Derpocrats and Rederpicans coming together over Ron Paul


www.chicagonow.com
 
2012-05-04 11:19:38 AM  

UCFRoadWarrior: Fark Derp Derpocrats and Fark Derp Rederpicans Last Week: BWAAAHHH...Ron Paul can't win, he is a joke, Derp Whhaaargaarrbl

Fark Derpocrats and Fark Rederpicans Today: Oh Shiat....

So funny watching Derpocrats and Rederpicans coming together over Ron Paul


Bless your heart.
 
2012-05-04 11:35:27 AM  
29.media.tumblr.com

I'm an asshole, so I have no problem saying I can take a look at this dude and know exactly what he's like, based on his appearance and perceived Paultardness.

He's a compulsive contrarian who thinks he's smarter than he actually is. You don't want him in Philosophy or Political Science class because he'll disrupt it every chance he gets and is completely unable to even remotely accept a discerning point of view.

He's got an opinion on everything and has to dominate every conversation by trivializing anything anyone else may say that is actually relevant to the topic, by pushing his own predominantly trite experiences as equally valid.

He spends his weekends playing Skyrim or War Machine or some shiat like that in his dorm room, which is littered with Taco Bell bags and towers of Mountain Dew cans. He may or may not have a girlfriend, but if he does, she puts up with his neglectful, condescending attitude out of profound lack of self-esteem.

His Facebook feed is also littered by Paultardisms, which he accepts as gospel and thinks people un-friending him out of annoyance actually means that he is winning some sort of intellectual war that exists solely in his head, and he's just showing people what mindless sheep they are. He also listens to Alex Jones daily. He has an enormous music collection, but didn't pay for any of it.

Finally, he also jerks it. A lot. But uses his socks so his roommate doesn't find out.
 
2012-05-04 11:40:36 AM  

Zerochance: [29.media.tumblr.com image 500x333]

I'm an asshole, so I have no problem saying I can take a look at this dude and know exactly what he's like, based on his appearance and perceived Paultardness.

He's a compulsive contrarian who thinks he's smarter than he actually is. You don't want him in Philosophy or Political Science class because he'll disrupt it every chance he gets and is completely unable to even remotely accept a discerning point of view.

He's got an opinion on everything and has to dominate every conversation by trivializing anything anyone else may say that is actually relevant to the topic, by pushing his own predominantly trite experiences as equally valid.

He spends his weekends playing Skyrim or War Machine or some shiat like that in his dorm room, which is littered with Taco Bell bags and towers of Mountain Dew cans. He may or may not have a girlfriend, but if he does, she puts up with his neglectful, condescending attitude out of profound lack of self-esteem.

His Facebook feed is also littered by Paultardisms, which he accepts as gospel and thinks people un-friending him out of annoyance actually means that he is winning some sort of intellectual war that exists solely in his head, and he's just showing people what mindless sheep they are. He also listens to Alex Jones daily. He has an enormous music collection, but didn't pay for any of it.

Finally, he also jerks it. A lot. But uses his socks so his roommate doesn't find out.


If I didn't know any better. I'd say this is based on personal experience.
 
2012-05-04 11:41:32 AM  

vernonFL: I wouldn't vote for Ron Paul, but at least he's honest and sincere,


This is what is wrong with American voters. Sorry. But, this kind of thing just makes my heart break.
 
2012-05-04 11:42:26 AM  
j.wigflip.com
 
2012-05-04 11:42:53 AM  

Zerochance: He's a compulsive contrarian who thinks he's smarter than he actually is. You don't want him in Philosophy or Political Science class because he'll disrupt it every chance he gets and is completely unable to even remotely accept a discerning point of view.

He's got an opinion on everything and has to dominate every conversation by trivializing anything anyone else may say that is actually relevant to the topic, by pushing his own predominantly trite experiences as equally valid.


I bet he takes it a step further and in dominating the conversation references obscure random bits of founding father wisdom which are then presented as complete gospel and the beginning and end of all things America should be, at which point if you haven't read the random letter he references he repeatedly falls back on telling you to take the time to read this really great stuff in lieu of actually discussing the points you brought up. Somehow these types always manage to move a conversation from me saying I'm glad we have an FDA because the private companies wouldn't adequately look out of us to that sort of thing.
 
2012-05-04 11:44:03 AM  

phenn: vernonFL: I wouldn't vote for Ron Paul, but at least he's honest and sincere,

This is what is wrong with American voters. Sorry. But, this kind of thing just makes my heart break.


I vote with my brain. I'm not convinced he is honest or even sincere, but it doesn't matter if he was because I strongly disagree with his views, and thus wouldn't vote for him.

That breaks your heart? Too farking bad.
 
2012-05-04 11:44:23 AM  

sweetmelissa31: [j.wigflip.com image 632x416]


24.media.tumblr.com
 
2012-05-04 11:45:13 AM  

Zerochance: [29.media.tumblr.com image 500x333]

I'm an asshole, so I have no problem saying I can take a look at this dude and know exactly what he's like, based on his appearance and perceived Paultardness.

He's a compulsive contrarian who thinks he's smarter than he actually is. You don't want him in Philosophy or Political Science class because he'll disrupt it every chance he gets and is completely unable to even remotely accept a discerning point of view.

He's got an opinion on everything and has to dominate every conversation by trivializing anything anyone else may say that is actually relevant to the topic, by pushing his own predominantly trite experiences as equally valid.

He spends his weekends playing Skyrim or War Machine or some shiat like that in his dorm room, which is littered with Taco Bell bags and towers of Mountain Dew cans. He may or may not have a girlfriend, but if he does, she puts up with his neglectful, condescending attitude out of profound lack of self-esteem.

His Facebook feed is also littered by Paultardisms, which he accepts as gospel and thinks people un-friending him out of annoyance actually means that he is winning some sort of intellectual war that exists solely in his head, and he's just showing people what mindless sheep they are. He also listens to Alex Jones daily. He has an enormous music collection, but didn't pay for any of it.

Finally, he also jerks it. A lot. But uses his socks so his roommate doesn't find out.


His roommate knows. That's why his sock drawer has a padlock.
 
2012-05-04 11:46:43 AM  
i.chzbgr.com
 
2012-05-04 11:49:23 AM  

Smackledorfer: phenn: vernonFL: I wouldn't vote for Ron Paul, but at least he's honest and sincere,

This is what is wrong with American voters. Sorry. But, this kind of thing just makes my heart break.

I vote with my brain. I'm not convinced he is honest or even sincere, but it doesn't matter if he was because I strongly disagree with his views, and thus wouldn't vote for him.

That breaks your heart? Too farking bad.


You completely missed the point. But, I've come to expect that from farkers.
 
2012-05-04 11:50:30 AM  
j.wigflip.com
 
2012-05-04 11:50:36 AM  

Zerochance: He spends his weekends playing Skyrim


excuse me what is wrong with this
 
2012-05-04 11:51:12 AM  

Mrtraveler01: Zerochance: [29.media.tumblr.com image 500x333]

I'm an asshole, so I have no problem saying I can take a look at this dude and know exactly what he's like, based on his appearance and perceived Paultardness.

He's a compulsive contrarian who thinks he's smarter than he actually is. You don't want him in Philosophy or Political Science class because he'll disrupt it every chance he gets and is completely unable to even remotely accept a discerning point of view.

He's got an opinion on everything and has to dominate every conversation by trivializing anything anyone else may say that is actually relevant to the topic, by pushing his own predominantly trite experiences as equally valid.

He spends his weekends playing Skyrim or War Machine or some shiat like that in his dorm room, which is littered with Taco Bell bags and towers of Mountain Dew cans. He may or may not have a girlfriend, but if he does, she puts up with his neglectful, condescending attitude out of profound lack of self-esteem.

His Facebook feed is also littered by Paultardisms, which he accepts as gospel and thinks people un-friending him out of annoyance actually means that he is winning some sort of intellectual war that exists solely in his head, and he's just showing people what mindless sheep they are. He also listens to Alex Jones daily. He has an enormous music collection, but didn't pay for any of it.

Finally, he also jerks it. A lot. But uses his socks so his roommate doesn't find out.

If I didn't know any better. I'd say this is based on personal experience.


It is. I know a lot of Paultards. This is an amalgamation of different personality traits from the Paultards I deal with on a daily basis.
 
2012-05-04 11:54:12 AM  

phenn: vernonFL: I wouldn't vote for Ron Paul, but at least he's honest and sincere,

This is what is wrong with American voters. Sorry. But, this kind of thing just makes my heart break.


This, honest and sincere? About what? If he honestly and sincerely believed that the the Earth was flat and wanted to declare war on the Moon People in order to get all their delicious moon cheese, would you still say "Well at least he's sincere about it" ?

Crazy is crazy, it needn't be qualified or respected.
 
2012-05-04 11:54:40 AM  

sweetmelissa31: [j.wigflip.com image 632x416]


i.imgur.com
 
2012-05-04 11:55:14 AM  

Jackson Herring: sweetmelissa31: [j.wigflip.com image 632x416]

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YESSSSSS
 
2012-05-04 11:57:43 AM  

phenn: Smackledorfer: phenn: vernonFL: I wouldn't vote for Ron Paul, but at least he's honest and sincere,

This is what is wrong with American voters. Sorry. But, this kind of thing just makes my heart break.

I vote with my brain. I'm not convinced he is honest or even sincere, but it doesn't matter if he was because I strongly disagree with his views, and thus wouldn't vote for him.

That breaks your heart? Too farking bad.

You completely missed the point. But, I've come to expect that from farkers.


You didn't make a good point, and its everyone else's fault but your own, so you won't bother even attempting to take another shot? I've come to expect that from farkers too.
 
2012-05-04 11:58:11 AM  

red5ish: Anybody who watches Rachael Maddow knew about this a long time ago.
Link


There's your problem.
 
2012-05-04 11:59:46 AM  

Jackson Herring: sweetmelissa31:

i.imgur.com



aaaaaaand copy save.
 
2012-05-04 12:01:08 PM  

UCFRoadWarrior: Fark Derp Derpocrats and Fark Derp Rederpicans Last Week: BWAAAHHH...Ron Paul can't win, he is a joke, Derp Whhaaargaarrbl

Fark Derpocrats and Fark Rederpicans Today: Oh Shiat....

So funny watching Derpocrats and Rederpicans coming together over Ron Paul



You know how I know you didn't read the thread before threadshiatting on it?
 
2012-05-04 12:01:26 PM  

Jackson Herring: sweetmelissa31: [j.wigflip.com image 632x416]

[i.imgur.com image 394x305]


And this is why you're favorited in a pleasing cyan.
Well, that and the fatdawgs.jpg


i865.photobucket.com
 
2012-05-04 12:07:09 PM  

Tor_Eckman: I don't really think race has anything to do with the Paul support. I believe it's mainly due to the fact that a lot of these kids weren't paying attention to what was going on during the last election and had expectations of Obama that either weren't realistic, or weren't anything that he actually campaigned on.


I see Paul's support as a mish-mash of single issue Republicans: Goldbugs, states rightists for the sake of States Rights, potheads, etc. Those groups occasionally overlap, but its a hive-mind of single, minute issues. His appeal to Democrats generally falls under one of those single issues as well. I think his appeal to Young voters is a combination of one of the above single issues mixed with general naivete about what his positions mean. (i.e. no War on Drugs at the Federal level, even if it meant it would probably worse at the State level)
 
2012-05-04 12:12:49 PM  

UCFRoadWarrior: Fark Derp Derpocrats and Fark Derp Rederpicans Last Week: BWAAAHHH...Ron Paul can't win, he is a joke, Derp Whhaaargaarrbl

Fark Derpocrats and Fark Rederpicans Today: Oh Shiat....

So funny watching Derpocrats and Rederpicans coming together over Ron Paul


Yeah, no, I'm still laughing at you. And at Romney.
 
2012-05-04 12:19:14 PM  

Jackson Herring: Zerochance: He spends his weekends playing Skyrim

excuse me what is wrong with this


Absolutely nothing, unless you don't realize that the reason you're broke all the time is because you just plunked $170 on Magic the Gathering Cards and WoW expansion packs, instead of over-taxation to pay for entitlements for moochers.
 
2012-05-04 12:22:51 PM  

Smackledorfer: phenn: vernonFL: I wouldn't vote for Ron Paul, but at least he's honest and sincere,

This is what is wrong with American voters. Sorry. But, this kind of thing just makes my heart break.

I vote with my brain. I'm not convinced he is honest or even sincere, but it doesn't matter if he was because I strongly disagree with his views, and thus wouldn't vote for him.

That breaks your heart? Too farking bad.



Alt or butting into conversation?
 
2012-05-04 12:41:18 PM  

Lord_Baull: Smackledorfer: phenn: vernonFL: I wouldn't vote for Ron Paul, but at least he's honest and sincere,

This is what is wrong with American voters. Sorry. But, this kind of thing just makes my heart break.

I vote with my brain. I'm not convinced he is honest or even sincere, but it doesn't matter if he was because I strongly disagree with his views, and thus wouldn't vote for him.

That breaks your heart? Too farking bad.


Alt or butting into conversation?


Did you reply to the wrong post here Lord_Baul?

1. I'm not an alt.

2. As far as butting into conversation, that was Phenn's Boobies in the thread, and it was Phenn to which I was replying.

3. Additionally, threads aren't private conversations to be "butted into" in any event, but if they were, does that mean since the first time I posted in this thread came before your first time, that you are therefore the one butting in, and not me?

4. Do I need an appointment to post in threads now, and if so, should I email you or something if you aren't a thread yet and want conversational privacy at a later portion of the discussion within said thread?
 
2012-05-04 12:41:18 PM  
Exploiting a byzantine nominating process that often flies under the radar, supporters are working the system to gain delegate majorities in states Paul lost in the primaries or caucuses (he hasn't won a single contest outright).

Uh, is Ron Paul or is Ron Paul not playing by the rules? I believe this shiat falls under "don't hate the playa, hate the game."
 
2012-05-04 12:48:53 PM  

FeedTheCollapse: Tor_Eckman: I don't really think race has anything to do with the Paul support. I believe it's mainly due to the fact that a lot of these kids weren't paying attention to what was going on during the last election and had expectations of Obama that either weren't realistic, or weren't anything that he actually campaigned on.

I see Paul's support as a mish-mash of single issue Republicans: Goldbugs, states rightists for the sake of States Rights, potheads, etc. Those groups occasionally overlap, but its a hive-mind of single, minute issues. His appeal to Democrats generally falls under one of those single issues as well. I think his appeal to Young voters is a combination of one of the above single issues mixed with general naivete about what his positions mean. (i.e. no War on Drugs at the Federal level, even if it meant it would probably worse at the State level)


You forgot war. After the vague, general idea of reducing the size of the Federal Government, not starting wars is the #1 issue of the Ron Paul voters I know. I don't know any potheads or goldbugs.
 
2012-05-04 01:16:52 PM  

Smackledorfer:Did you reply to the wrong post here Lord_Baul?

1. I'm not an alt.

2. As far as butting into conversation, that was Phenn's Boobies in the thread, and it was Phenn to which I was replying.

3. Additionally, threads aren't private conversations to be "butted into" in any event, but if they were, does that mean since the first time I posted in this thread came before your first time, that you are therefore the one butting in, and not me?

4. Do I need an appointment to post in threads now, and if so, should I email you or something if you aren't a thread yet and want conversational privacy at a later portion of the discussion within said thread?




Wow. Settle down there, kitty.
I made the comment based on this:
phenn: vernonFL: I wouldn't vote for Ron Paul, but at least he's honest and sincere,

This is what is wrong with American voters. Sorry. But, this kind of thing just makes my heart break.

*note, phenn responding to vernonFL*

Smackledorfer: phenn: vernonFL: I wouldn't vote for Ron Paul, but at least he's honest and sincere,

This is what is wrong with American voters. Sorry. But, this kind of thing just makes my heart break.

I vote with my brain. I'm not convinced he is honest or even sincere, but it doesn't matter if he was because I strongly disagree with his views, and thus wouldn't vote for him.

That breaks your heart? Too farking bad.

*note You responding vehemently to phenn as if he was directly attacking YOU.*

De-waddify your panties.
 
2012-05-04 01:24:35 PM  

GentDirkly: FeedTheCollapse: Tor_Eckman: I don't really think race has anything to do with the Paul support. I believe it's mainly due to the fact that a lot of these kids weren't paying attention to what was going on during the last election and had expectations of Obama that either weren't realistic, or weren't anything that he actually campaigned on.

I see Paul's support as a mish-mash of single issue Republicans: Goldbugs, states rightists for the sake of States Rights, potheads, etc. Those groups occasionally overlap, but its a hive-mind of single, minute issues. His appeal to Democrats generally falls under one of those single issues as well. I think his appeal to Young voters is a combination of one of the above single issues mixed with general naivete about what his positions mean. (i.e. no War on Drugs at the Federal level, even if it meant it would probably worse at the State level)

You forgot war. After the vague, general idea of reducing the size of the Federal Government, not starting wars is the #1 issue of the Ron Paul voters I know. I don't know any potheads or goldbugs.


I meant to include that under the naivete heading as I'm under the impression that most agree with his conclusion, but not aware of how he got to that conclusion. I give Ron Paul credit that he is a stark contrast among Republicans in terms of their views on the war, but I think it's a conclusion that comes from an isolationist's point of view that I disagree with.


frankly, Ron Pauls supporters are typical "I only give a shiat if it affects me directly" Republicanism.
 
2012-05-04 01:27:10 PM  

Lord_Baull: Wow. Settle down there, kitty.


Oh I'm fine, its just that nothing you said in response to me made any sense at all.

And really, "too farking bad" is hardly the emotional response you make it out to be. There is no need to add a buttload of feeling to every post you read on the internet.
 
2012-05-04 01:35:27 PM  

FeedTheCollapse: I give Ron Paul credit that he is a stark contrast among Republicans in terms of their views on the war, but I think it's a conclusion that comes from an isolationist's point of view that I disagree with.


I agree. Obviously it can't be generalized to all Ron Paul supporters, but there is a big difference between a guy like me looking at a war and saying "nope, people gain far too little from that encounter for what it costs in money and lives" and a guy like Ron Paul saying "none of our business, it doesn't matter whether we can save a billion people for pennies a piece". That view is even less worth of respect, imnsho, than a lot of conservatives who think Iraq was a great move because we made the world a better place. At least their heart is in the right place, despite the ignorance involved. And in the most hypothetical long term view, I suppose we can never really be 100% sure they aren't right. I rather doubt it though.

He seems to view things as principled where the topic itself isn't really deserving of having these hard and fast all or nothing rules applied. From regulation, the economy, state's rights, his arguments seem more like the stating of commandments than actually looking at actions on their individual merit. Which I suppose makes him a better fit for the republican party than I thought, what with their lovely Norquist pledges and such.
 
2012-05-04 01:37:15 PM  
In other words, Ron Paul and his supporters want to overturn the will of the people. How freedom, democracy, and small government loving of him.
 
2012-05-04 01:53:57 PM  

Car_Ramrod: I think most people knew Paulites were annoying enough to pull stuff like this, even though Ron Paul will never, ever be President, or even the Republican nominee. And anyone that's been paying attention through the primaries has heard Paul or his organizers say ominous things like, "we know how the delegates system REALLY works".

So yes, this is predictable, but doesn't make it any less hilariously pathetic.


Yeah you're right, we should just subject ourselves to erroneous establishment bullshiat and the moronic status quo like a good citizen, why bother fighting the good fight?

/Idiot
 
2012-05-04 01:59:21 PM  

Deftoons: Car_Ramrod: I think most people knew Paulites were annoying enough to pull stuff like this, even though Ron Paul will never, ever be President, or even the Republican nominee. And anyone that's been paying attention through the primaries has heard Paul or his organizers say ominous things like, "we know how the delegates system REALLY works".

So yes, this is predictable, but doesn't make it any less hilariously pathetic.

Yeah you're right, we should just subject ourselves to erroneous establishment bullshiat and the moronic status quo like a good citizen, why bother fighting the good fight?

/Idiot


The really hilarious part is that you think that RON PAUL is "the good fight".
 
2012-05-04 02:20:42 PM  
Honestly Paul-haters, you guys constantly say "there's no chance he'll be President" over and over, as if it's a mantra because you don't want him to win. Thus you think our current electoral system is justified, representative of the people, and that the voting public along with Congress in general knows what they are doing when it comes to economics and foreign policy. But I only need to remind you of the last couple elections with Bush and his administration's Congress to show just how inanely stupid such logic is.

And what is your alternative - Obama?? The guy that signed a huge health-insurance-lobbied bill that was agreed by a majority of Democrats???

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Here's a thought that might blow your mind: Don't compromise and vote for someone else. And hey, it doesn't have to be Ron Paul. Just stop shrugging your shoulders and vote for the lesser of two evils, because that's not working for anyone.
 
2012-05-04 02:24:37 PM  

HeartBurnKid: The really hilarious part is that you think that RON PAUL is "the good fight".


No, the hilarious part is you think everyone else in office is fighting the good fight. That's keeping your head straight, good citizen. Keep drinking that Flavor-Aid.
 
2012-05-04 02:30:36 PM  

stoli n coke: vernonFL: YELLOL: Technically he's correct. The only reason an M.D. might need to terminate a pregnancy is to save the life of the mother in which case the procedure isn't called an abortion. There are no other valid medical reasons for killing a baby, umm, performing an abortion.

Ron Paul probably went to medical school in the 1960s. a lot of things have changed since then.

As an experienced OB GYN physician, Ron Paul has probably been presented with difficult ethical and tricky medical decisions, I don't envy him.

I mean, what do you say to a mother whose fetus doesn't have a brain?

"We'll call him Rand."


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2012-05-04 02:34:55 PM  

Smackledorfer: FeedTheCollapse: I give Ron Paul credit that he is a stark contrast among Republicans in terms of their views on the war, but I think it's a conclusion that comes from an isolationist's point of view that I disagree with.

I agree. Obviously it can't be generalized to all Ron Paul supporters, but there is a big difference between a guy like me looking at a war and saying "nope, people gain far too little from that encounter for what it costs in money and lives" and a guy like Ron Paul saying "none of our business, it doesn't matter whether we can save a billion people for pennies a piece". That view is even less worth of respect, imnsho, than a lot of conservatives who think Iraq was a great move because we made the world a better place. At least their heart is in the right place, despite the ignorance involved. And in the most hypothetical long term view, I suppose we can never really be 100% sure they aren't right. I rather doubt it though.

He seems to view things as principled where the topic itself isn't really deserving of having these hard and fast all or nothing rules applied. From regulation, the economy, state's rights, his arguments seem more like the stating of commandments than actually looking at actions on their individual merit. Which I suppose makes him a better fit for the republican party than I thought, what with their lovely Norquist pledges and such.


I sorta disagree with your characterization of Ron Paul's view on war. Isolationism means not trading as well as not conducting foreign wars. Ron Paul loves trading with folks and that does mean we'll be involved with other folks' business, just not in an aggressive way.

I agree with your view about war being subject to a cost/benefit analysis for all parties involved, not just the victor/aggressor. I agree that Ron Paul doesn't seem to think that way.

The problem is there is no candidate really expressing the view you lay out above. Other than Ron Paul, Obama and Romney both hold to the "support our allies, especially Israel, whenever they feel remotely threatened, even if it's their own damn fault" school of ethics.

As far as there being a 'stating of commandments', that's every politician. It's very hard to get the crowd going with the nuanced argument of "there is a downside to this, but the upside is bigger!" Almost all politicians make their arguments in terms of "that's not what America is supposed to be about, never do that."
 
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