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2012-05-03 07:23:03 PM
This election year sucks.
 
2012-05-03 07:28:26 PM

quickdraw: This election year sucks.


Don't worry. It will get worse over the summer. Just stock up on popcorn.
 
2012-05-03 07:29:31 PM
I think most people knew Paulites were annoying enough to pull stuff like this, even though Ron Paul will never, ever be President, or even the Republican nominee. And anyone that's been paying attention through the primaries has heard Paul or his organizers say ominous things like, "we know how the delegates system REALLY works".

So yes, this is predictable, but doesn't make it any less hilariously pathetic.
 
2012-05-03 07:33:59 PM
Operation Chaos >RON PAUL!!1!

/Chuckleheads
 
2012-05-03 07:34:14 PM
I bet Wrongo knew.
 
2012-05-03 07:38:53 PM
Between this and everybody packing heat in Tampa, I think it may be time to stock up on popcorn.
 
2012-05-03 07:42:18 PM
Well, I didn't get the brokered convention I was hoping for, but anything to make the convention more popcorn-worthy will be awesome.
 
2012-05-03 07:44:00 PM
It's funny that some people sincerely think he's the Warren G. Harding of 2012.
 
2012-05-03 07:50:20 PM
That's RON PAUL to you.
 
2012-05-03 08:10:40 PM
www.reece-eu.net
 
2012-05-03 08:45:17 PM
As I pointed out in the thread from a couple days ago (to much derision), Paul is trying to shake up the party. The GOP is a mess...and I find his rabble-rousing amusing.
 
2012-05-03 08:55:11 PM
Shiatheel is more like it

/piss off old man
 
2012-05-03 08:58:26 PM
Ron Paul: The GOP's Ralph Nader
 
2012-05-03 09:14:32 PM
The GOP I know will find a rationale to circumvent it's own floor rules and prevent any unseemly interruption of the Romney anointment as 'Sacrificial Lamb to The Obamanation'.
 
2012-05-03 09:20:10 PM

Car_Ramrod: I think most people knew Paulites were annoying enough to pull stuff like this, even though Ron Paul will never, ever be President, or even the Republican nominee. And anyone that's been paying attention through the primaries has heard Paul or his organizers say ominous things like, "we know how the delegates system REALLY works".

So yes, this is predictable, but doesn't make it any less hilariously pathetic.


The Republican primary system is hilariously broken. Possibly the Dems too, but there's nobody like Paul for the Dems, so it isn't a problem. These are people who intentionally refuse to play by the rules and abide by popular vote. The GOP primaries are getting an overhaul after this. I wouldn't be surprised to see all primaries and every one of them winner take all by default. The GOP almost always picks the establishment leader going into the primaries, so solidifying that makes sense for them.
 
2012-05-03 09:34:49 PM
Shut up Ron Paul, you cauc.
 
2012-05-03 09:55:09 PM

Bucky Katt: quickdraw: This election year sucks.

Don't worry. It will get worse over the summer. Just stock up on popcorn.


Don't forget to thank a corporate media outlet near you!
 
2012-05-03 10:37:54 PM

Cuchulane: Shut up Ron Paul, you cauc.


Nice!
 
2012-05-03 11:11:45 PM
i53.tinypic.com

Ron Paul will be 77 years old on election day. Even if I thought he was a viable candidate he is really old for this game. Not to mention crazy as a shiathouse rat.
 
2012-05-03 11:11:54 PM
I found one more reason to hate Ron Paul today.

Apparently he's publicly praised Operation Rescue, who endorse him.

That's not far off of endorsing terrorists.
 
2012-05-03 11:11:56 PM
Pay attention folks.

This is how the Christian Coalition did it.

A vast minority WHO BOTHERS TO SHOW UP FOR THE CAUCUSES can take over delegate positions for conventions.

Delegates become committee members. Committees bring changes to party rules (including how they spend money, who they can and can't support, important stuff) and platforms (their philosophical positions).

They elect officers. Only the people who show up get to do this. And NOBODY shows up.

This is how the parties became so divided in the late 70s and into the 80s, and its the foundation for the divide to this day.

This is how our country became so divided.
 
2012-05-03 11:13:42 PM

Bucky Katt: quickdraw: This election year sucks.

Don't worry. It will get worse over the summer. Just stock up on popcorn.


I bought stock in Reddenbacher.

GAT_00: Car_Ramrod: I think most people knew Paulites were annoying enough to pull stuff like this, even though Ron Paul will never, ever be President, or even the Republican nominee. And anyone that's been paying attention through the primaries has heard Paul or his organizers say ominous things like, "we know how the delegates system REALLY works".

So yes, this is predictable, but doesn't make it any less hilariously pathetic.

The Republican primary system is hilariously broken. Possibly the Dems too, but there's nobody like Paul for the Dems, so it isn't a problem. These are people who intentionally refuse to play by the rules and abide by popular vote. The GOP primaries are getting an overhaul after this. I wouldn't be surprised to see all primaries and every one of them winner take all by default. The GOP almost always picks the establishment leader going into the primaries, so solidifying that makes sense for them.


They just changed it FROM winner take all, and the whole reason was to keep the party from being hijacked by the retarded wing and move it back to the center.

It appears to be working.
 
2012-05-03 11:17:59 PM
So what I'm seeing here is that the GOP primary is about to become a lot more hilarious.
 
2012-05-03 11:19:17 PM
This is bullshiat. The Republican party will have dealt with Ron Paul long before the convention. He'll probably even have a speech in Tampa praising Mitt Romney.

Even if they didn't, his people most likely would still fail in getting any power whatsoever at the convention. No matter how clever they are and how much they study the rules, the fact remains that there are only a couple of states in which you can rack up delegates without having people vote for you. And no one farking votes for Ron Paul
 
2012-05-03 11:22:09 PM

Hollie Maea: And no one farking votes for Ron Paul


Whether or not they try to nominate him from the floor, they *are* going to get seats on the committee work that happens at conventions.

Conventions aren't just for nominating. That's where all of the internal party business happens.
 
2012-05-03 11:27:16 PM
What I enjoy is all the Paulites that keep trying to tell me, "Ron Paul is different than other politicians! He's a man of ideals (yes their words)! He honestly believes what he says!"

When I point out he's literally stealing the election and is completely ignoring the popular vote and what the people of that state want in what is just another form of Gerrymandering they either ignore me or answer with, "But he doesn't really mean it! He's doing it for the right reasons!"
 
2012-05-03 11:27:45 PM
Calling it now:

Romney tries to go up on stage to talk Ron Paul into ending his already running 6 hour rant at the RNC. Ron Paul correctly identifies the threat to his life, pulls a pistol and shoots his opponent.

Due to the stand your ground laws, he isn't even asked any questions by police. Also because he's a doctor he saves Mitt's life.

Everyone is very impressed and the delegates hand the nomination to Ron Paul.

Ron Paul selects his son as his running mate and wins in a land slide.

The day after inauguration all currency is converted to silver dimes.

Trumpets sound, the seventh scroll is read, the vials are opened and we officially start the Bud Light - JP Morgan - Campbell's Chunky Armageddon 2013 Extravaganza brought to you by the all new 2014 Ford Fusion

/if you don't have cable, get it. it's going to be worth it
//and a DVR, seriously, you'll want to skip the commercials. The Armageddon will probably be like 5 minutes of commercials every 15 minutes. We are talking ad space of the millennia.
 
2012-05-03 11:28:29 PM

Lenny_da_Hog: Hollie Maea: And no one farking votes for Ron Paul

Whether or not they try to nominate him from the floor, they *are* going to get seats on the committee work that happens at conventions.

Conventions aren't just for nominating. That's where all of the internal party business happens.


Be that as it may, he won't have any influence, and his people won't be allowed to make a scene. They'll throw him a bone, like usual, and he'll gobble it up, like usual, his supporters will howl and moan, like usual, and then go vote for the establishment nominee, like always.
 
2012-05-03 11:42:44 PM
this pleases me even if Dr. Paul is a nutjob. and can't sing half as good as Mary or Peter could.
 
2012-05-03 11:43:29 PM

Hollie Maea: Lenny_da_Hog: Hollie Maea: And no one farking votes for Ron Paul

Whether or not they try to nominate him from the floor, they *are* going to get seats on the committee work that happens at conventions.

Conventions aren't just for nominating. That's where all of the internal party business happens.

Be that as it may, he won't have any influence, and his people won't be allowed to make a scene.


Even if he and his supporters made a scene no one would know about it because the mainstream media has decided RON PAUL doesn't exist.
 
2012-05-03 11:51:59 PM

Hollie Maea: Be that as it may, he won't have any influence, and his people won't be allowed to make a scene. They'll throw him a bone, like usual, and he'll gobble it up, like usual, his supporters will howl and moan, like usual, and then go vote for the establishment nominee, like always.


Committee work is brutal because it's never in the press. They will be wrenches in the gears.

They're not in enough numbers nationwide, like the Christian Coalition did it (they secretly organized it nationwide to show up, instead of as an apparent afterthought like RPs folks), so they won't get anything passed, but I'd bet they're willing to make everyone's lives hell trying to get the committee work done.
 
2012-05-03 11:52:29 PM
They tried the same thing in 2008 and it didn't work then.
 
2012-05-03 11:52:30 PM

"Never give up, never surrender!"

api.ning.com
 
2012-05-03 11:58:38 PM

Hollie Maea: Lenny_da_Hog: Hollie Maea: And no one farking votes for Ron Paul

Whether or not they try to nominate him from the floor, they *are* going to get seats on the committee work that happens at conventions.

Conventions aren't just for nominating. That's where all of the internal party business happens.

Be that as it may, he won't have any influence, and his people won't be allowed to make a scene. They'll throw him a bone, like usual, and he'll gobble it up, like usual, his supporters will howl and moan, like usual, and then go vote for the establishment nominee, like always.


I don't think you remember 2008, when RP was all butthurt over not getting a speaking slot at the GOP convention so he held a rally across town.
 
2012-05-04 12:08:48 AM
fta: If Paul can secure a plurality of delegates in just five states, they can try to nominate him from the convention floor in accordance with the convention rules - potentially providing an embarrassing distraction just at the moment the party is supposed to unify on the public stage.

Will he though?

Much more likely he'd threaten to do that and then accept concessions from the GOP in order to avoid the public embarrassment.

Cabinet post for Ron and/or a Rand Veep short listing.

But it's all moot, of course, debatable but irrelevant in the face of the fact that Obama will beat Romney.

2012 is gonna be about turnout numbers and down ticket races first and foremost.

Genevieve Marie: I found one more reason to hate Ron Paul today.

Apparently, he's publicly praised Operation Rescue, who endorse him.

That's not far off of endorsing terrorists.


For realz? Holy fark.

I mean I knew RON PAUL was anti-choice, of course, but I didn't know he had actually accepted an endorsement from the proto-terrorists at Operation Rescue.

Of course this *is* the same guy who took money from the Stormfront founder as a donation and never returned it so I shouldn't really be so surprised here.

A faux-libertarian nationalist fundocrat swaddled in his whacky version of the Constitution and hiding his intolerance behind a shield of state's rights rhetoric?

[donotwant]

29.media.tumblr.com

Funny fact: If you stare into the eyes of a Paultard the derp also stares back.

/No, not the good kind of "funny".
//Hot like an angry Paultard.
 
2012-05-04 12:21:00 AM

Genevieve Marie: I found one more reason to hate Ron Paul today.

Apparently he's publicly praised Operation Rescue, who endorse him.

That's not far off of endorsing terrorists.


No, it is endorsing terrorists. Bunch of murders and arsonists.
 
2012-05-04 12:21:31 AM

quatchi: For realz? Holy fark.

I mean I knew RON PAUL was anti-choice, of course, but I didn't know he had actually accepted an endorsement from the proto-terrorists at Operation Rescue.

Of course this *is* the same guy who took money from the Stormfront founder as a donation and never returned it so I shouldn't really be so surprised here.

A faux-libertarian nationalist fundocrat swaddled in his whacky version of the Constitution and hiding his intolerance behind a shield of state's rights rhetoric?


Yup. Amazing isn't it? And scary, how many young white guys are ready to buy into his brand of racism and misogyny- the "Get ours and fark everyone else" school of thought.

RHRealityCheck on the connection: Link

The Daily Paul, in case any Ron Paul follower care to dispute the connection: Link
 
2012-05-04 12:25:12 AM
This is awesome. I can't wait to watch the convention.
 
2012-05-04 12:28:06 AM
This smells of the media sensing that Obama will destroy Romney, and is making hay out of Ron Paul to both give Romney time to recover (and for his mistakes to 'fade') and bring back the viewers who love the Republican circus. Not two months ago was Paul pimping his son Rand to be a possible VP candidate.

Romney is a weak candidate, and now the Republicans are falling over themselves to hide him from Obama, who hasn't even begun to really campaign yet.
 
2012-05-04 12:31:33 AM
Which "Operation Rescue" endorsed him? They don't really exist anymore, they changed their name to "Operation Save America" and started whining about gays and Muslims years ago. I guess unless Flip Benham has decided to go back to using the name because he figured he could milk more attention from it or something.
 
2012-05-04 12:39:05 AM
Gotta say I would wish a throng of Paultards on any GOP event. All that derp would cause one hell of a chemical reaction, maybe even 2nd degree burns from all those blowhards being in the same place/time.
 
2012-05-04 12:41:02 AM

Guntram Shatterhand: This smells of the media sensing that Obama will destroy Romney, and is making hay out of Ron Paul to both give Romney time to recover (and for his mistakes to 'fade') and bring back the viewers who love the Republican circus. Not two months ago was Paul pimping his son Rand to be a possible VP candidate.

Romney is a weak candidate, and now the Republicans are falling over themselves to hide him from Obama, who hasn't even begun to really campaign yet.


this sounds plausible. there's at least some republicans who would probably love to see the primary drawn out. its pretty easy to shine if you're debating with a cranky old curmudgeon with a penchant for gold.
 
2012-05-04 12:42:37 AM

Genevieve Marie: Yup. Amazing isn't it? And scary, how many young white guys are ready to buy into his brand of racism and misogyny- the "Get ours and fark everyone else" school of thought.


A lot of them are idiots who've bought into the whole "Only Ron Paul wants to legalize Marijuana" schtick.

As if.

RHRealityCheck on the connection: Link

The Daily Paul, in case any Ron Paul follower care to dispute the connection: Link


TY for links. This is why you've long been farkied "Best femisnist evah" and show up in a special colour.

From a link within your first link...

"who are we" to let one baby die in "a bucket," but let another one live.

First time I heard the "Bucket Baby" story.

Gonna go out on a limb here and assume that one was "not intended to be a factual statement".

These people are not even lightly tethered to reality by this point.
 
2012-05-04 12:48:39 AM

quatchi: TY for links. This is why you've long been farkied "Best femisnist evah" and show up in a special colour.


*blush*

quatchi: First time I heard the "Bucket Baby" story.

Gonna go out on a limb here and assume that one was "not intended to be a factual statement".

These people are not even lightly tethered to reality by this point.


Oh yea, the Bucket Baby story is a Ron Paul Classic. Also, he's an ob/gyn who thinks women never need to have abortions for medical reasons.

Yea.
 
2012-05-04 12:53:23 AM

Genevieve Marie: quatchi: For realz? Holy fark.

I mean I knew RON PAUL was anti-choice, of course, but I didn't know he had actually accepted an endorsement from the proto-terrorists at Operation Rescue.

Of course this *is* the same guy who took money from the Stormfront founder as a donation and never returned it so I shouldn't really be so surprised here.

A faux-libertarian nationalist fundocrat swaddled in his whacky version of the Constitution and hiding his intolerance behind a shield of state's rights rhetoric?

Yup. Amazing isn't it? And scary, how many young white guys are ready to buy into his brand of racism and misogyny- the "Get ours and fark everyone else" school of thought.

RHRealityCheck on the connection: Link

The Daily Paul, in case any Ron Paul follower care to dispute the connection: Link


Yeah, well, his CRAZY stuff will never get through Congress, but the stuff we've arbitrarily dubbed his GOOD ideas will totally get through without any sort of problem!
 
2012-05-04 12:54:33 AM

rynthetyn: Which "Operation Rescue" endorsed him? They don't really exist anymore, they changed their name to "Operation Save America" and started whining about gays and Muslims years ago. I guess unless Flip Benham has decided to go back to using the name because he figured he could milk more attention from it or something.


Flip is still calling his group OSA and it's still based in NC.

Link talks about Paul getting an endorsement from Troy Newman.

FTA: Operation Rescue leader, Troy Newman, lends an official endorsement to Ron Paul.

*quick to the googlemobile*

wiki: On September 11, 2006, the IRS revoked Operation Rescue West's 501(c)(3) nonprofit, tax-exempt status.[5] Newman's organization now operates under the name "Operation Rescue."

Apparently Jeff White's CA Operation Rescue was shut down after a legal judgement against him.

But Newman is still in play and they are still called Operation Rescue although they are based in... (are you ready to be surprised?) ...Wichita, Kansas.

How come nobody looks surprised?
 
2012-05-04 12:54:43 AM

LordJiro: Yeah, well, his CRAZY stuff will never get through Congress, but the stuff we've arbitrarily dubbed his GOOD ideas will totally get through without any sort of problem!


Well yea. Such is the magical power of RON PAUL.
 
2012-05-04 12:55:12 AM
I wouldn't vote for Ron Paul, but at least he's honest and sincere, unlike Romney.

Ron Paul is the ONLY Republican to stand up against torture and against the war on drugs and wars in general, can you think of another Republican who would say something like "we're putting too many black men in prison for no reason"???

Watching the Republican debates, Ron Paul and Rick Santorum were the only candidates who seemed sincere and believed what they stood for.

It refreshing to have a candidate where you disagree with what they stand for, but at least they are intellectually honest.
 
2012-05-04 12:57:52 AM

vernonFL: I wouldn't vote for Ron Paul, but at least he's honest and sincere, unlike Romney.

Ron Paul is the ONLY Republican to stand up against torture and against the war on drugs and wars in general, can you think of another Republican who would say something like "we're putting too many black men in prison for no reason"???

Watching the Republican debates, Ron Paul and Rick Santorum were the only candidates who seemed sincere and believed what they stood for.

It refreshing to have a candidate where you disagree with what they stand for, but at least they are intellectually honest.


You know, this argument always makes me want to bang my head against my desk.

"Hey, he may be racist, he may be sexist, he may be a theocrat, and his ideas may have almost no rational basis BUT AT LEAST HE DOESN'T LIE ABOUT BEING A TOTAL LUNATIC."

If that's where we are, we're farked. Seriously.

Turn off the lights, everyone go home, because it's over. Time to start learning Chinese.
 
2012-05-04 12:58:15 AM

Genevieve Marie: Oh yea, the Bucket Baby story is a Ron Paul Classic. Also, he's an ob/gyn who thinks women never need to have abortions for medical reasons.

Yea.


i293.photobucket.com

Quizzical dawg looks askance at Ron Paul's delusional shenanigans.
 
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