WaltzingMathilda: chewy milk: This whole thread is just incredibly depressing to me

:(

did you come in to read about partying and f*cking girls on yachts? because the headline is about browsers. it's probably going to get rather geeky in here.

Why are you so defensive? Take a breath dude. Nothing wrong with geeky. It's just how petty people can be about such utterly inconsequential things. You like mouse gestures? fine, use em. Other guy doesnt like em? Fine don't use em.

/yea yea welcome to fark etc etc
//more threads should be about partying and f*cking girls on yachts
///but only if the girls use firefox!

CitizenTed: I have gone through much trouble to maintain Google Toolbar in Firefox. Yes, it's still possible to do it. But I fear this new build will kill it for good. Why Google Toolbar for FF? Because AFAIK it's the only search bar that lets me right-click on practically any search box and add it to the toolbar search ("Generate Custom Search"). No need to visit some toolbar website and search through their available search items only to find they don't actually end up in your toolbar at all.

The original Google Toolbar for FF was the easiest and best search tool for any browser, ever. The Chrome version is crap, which I find mystifying. You can't just go to imdb.com, right-click on their search box and add it to your search choices in the toolbar. WTF? Google? Bueller?

You may be aware of this, but if you are not . . . .

With Google you can specify the domain to search by adding 'site:fark.com' or whatever domain you want to search in. So, to search Fark for midget nurse tentacle porn, you would use

'midget nurse tentacle porn site:fark.com'

and Google will search for midget nurse tentacle porn only on fark.com

kid_icarus: TNel: I thought that was one of the positives of Firefox that it was updated more often than Internet Explorer. So is it now a bad thing? I'm so confused please tell me how to access the internet the right way.

Compatibility issues with various software, particularly in a corporate environment. If you work in IT, every time a new version/update on IE comes out expect a week of hell till the kinks are ironed out with any web-based application. But at least IE is on a slower, more paced cycle which makes the madness manageable. Firefox's rapid updates just makes it impractical for most software vendors to support. It's why IE is still the standard for a lot of corporate environments.

On the contrary, it's more likely IE is the corporate standard because of AD, group policy and all the various crappy in-house software that is completely dependent on IE6, ActiveX and many of the other Microsoft technological wonders.

/Chrome

Trolljegeren: CitizenTed: I have gone through much trouble to maintain Google Toolbar in Firefox. Yes, it's still possible to do it. But I fear this new build will kill it for good. Why Google Toolbar for FF? Because AFAIK it's the only search bar that lets me right-click on practically any search box and add it to the toolbar search ("Generate Custom Search"). No need to visit some toolbar website and search through their available search items only to find they don't actually end up in your toolbar at all.

The original Google Toolbar for FF was the easiest and best search tool for any browser, ever. The Chrome version is crap, which I find mystifying. You can't just go to imdb.com, right-click on their search box and add it to your search choices in the toolbar. WTF? Google? Bueller?

You may be aware of this, but if you are not . . . .

With Google you can specify the domain to search by adding 'site:fark.com' or whatever domain you want to search in. So, to search Fark for midget nurse tentacle porn, you would use

'midget nurse tentacle porn site:fark.com'

and Google will search for midget nurse tentacle porn only on fark.com

I know this.
But it means I must type more stuff and it leaves me at Google search results, not the desired website's search results.

For instance, let's say you watched a movie called "Blap" and it's about a historical event in 19th century East Borneo. You may want to see the imdb entry for the film, a Wikipedia entry for Borneo and a Google Image search for the leading lady. With the FF Google Toolbar, I type "Blap" and drop-down to IMDB. CTRL+T "Borneo" drop-down Wikipedia. CTRL+T "magala kesuma" drop-down GIS.

Done. I'm at the exact movie page on IMDB. I'm on the WIikipedia page for Borneo. And I'm looking at pages of photos of some Bornean broad. No more clicking Google results links. Google gets out of my way. I'm sick of staring at Google search results pages. I know where I want to go. Take me there.

And if I want to add a new search site, it's easy. I can go to virtualtourist.com, right-click on their search box and add it to the possible search sites in the toolbar. So now I can also look up hotels in Borneo and see where the pickpockets lurk.

It really is the best damn search tool ever created. And Google killed it for FF, then hobbled it into a useless husk in Chrome. I don't get it.

Chrome sucks.

cman: If you are using Firefox in this day in this age, you are a moron

It's incredibly easy to spot the idiots, haters, and dumbfarks who haven't used the about:config feature in Firefox. My browser screams- no pop ups, no ads, no extra bullshiat, and on and on and on, because Firefox is incredibly easy to customize.

kid_icarus: TNel: I thought that was one of the positives of Firefox that it was updated more often than Internet Explorer. So is it now a bad thing? I'm so confused please tell me how to access the internet the right way.

Compatibility issues with various software, particularly in a corporate environment. If you work in IT, every time a new version/update on IE comes out expect a week of hell till the kinks are ironed out with any web-based application. But at least IE is on a slower, more paced cycle which makes the madness manageable. Firefox's rapid updates just makes it impractical for most software vendors to support. It's why IE is still the standard for a lot of corporate environments.

If you're just surfing at home, Chrome or Firefox.

IE shouldn't be standard in corporate environments. The week of hell is brought on because IE changes how it interprets HTML with every version and crappy "enterprise" web apps are written for IE.

Chrome and Firefox usually just update to fix bugs and add features.

Of course lately Firefox keeps changing the interface to look like Chrome because they keep losing market share. I'd consider switching back if they made it faster and less bloated.

I'd rather not deal with Chrome's BS. They're basically making you just a consumer of the internet. With FF, I have far more control over my experience.

And for those of you who are all up-ons about the constant updates interrupting everything, here's a suggestion: TURN OFF THE AUTOMATIC UPDATES.

Firefox is right for me.

WaltzingMathilda
when it comes to internet research for work, opening relevant tabs in hidden tabs and continuing what i'm doing saves a ton of back and forth clicking and frustration, not to mention it's a much better way to organize your research method.

Why not just open several windows and position them so you can scan them for information more quickly? If you're into heavy research loads, use a dual monitor setting and install a second monitor to extend your desktop.space.

The only limits are the ones you haven't thought your way around yet.


Also, we're discussing a "browser" program, not a server.

I call shenanigans on the "limited use in business" gripes. It sounds more like you have internet connection glitches that have little to do with the browser, unless you're too lazy to adjust the settings in the first place, or install a proper ad/popup blocker to streamline your experience,

If a browser is a "RAM" hog, it has less to do with the actual interaction between the browser and the internet and more to do with the background processes that are probably unrelated to the browser itself. (cookies and other junk sent by the sites for tracking, etc).

Turn off the auto updates
Block all of the "cool flashy ads and media" irrelevant to your goals
Adjust the browser settings to "clear cache" when you close the browser

Chrome has pretty much everything I need in my own FF setup except... Ubiquity. Also I hate the fact that Chrome updates itself without telling me.... (yeah, yeah, they already know about my habits regardless but I like the illusion of control) or for some unknown reason it seems to lock up more than FF (at least on my work computer).

FF Forever.

The one true browser.

TwistedIvory: I tried Chrome a while back and liked its general interface but was put off by its lack of plug-ins/features to which I've grown accustomed on Firefox.

NoScript (and the blacklists I've compiled over the years) is invaluable, as is AdBlock. I like WeatherFox but it's not crucial; Mouse Gestures Redox, on the other hand, is.

There are some other random plugins I like (e.g. YouTube Comment Snob and Better Facebook) but those three -- NoScript, AdBlock, and Mouse Gestures -- I've not seen completely replicated in the Chrome environment.

NoScript = NotScript
AdBlock = AdBlock
Mouse Gestures = Gestures for Chrome

CitizenTed: I have gone through much trouble to maintain Google Toolbar in Firefox. Yes, it's still possible to do it. But I fear this new build will kill it for good. Why Google Toolbar for FF? Because AFAIK it's the only search bar that lets me right-click on practically any search box and add it to the toolbar search ("Generate Custom Search"). No need to visit some toolbar website and search through their available search items only to find they don't actually end up in your toolbar at all.

The original Google Toolbar for FF was the easiest and best search tool for any browser, ever. The Chrome version is crap, which I find mystifying. You can't just go to imdb.com, right-click on their search box and add it to your search choices in the toolbar. WTF? Google? Bueller?

In Chrome, you just type in the URL and press tab, then you can search that site. If it's something you use frequently, just type a couple letters. If I type "EN" and then hit tab, I'm searching wikipedia, for instance.

CitizenTed: Trolljegeren: CitizenTed: I have gone through much trouble to maintain Google Toolbar in Firefox. Yes, it's still possible to do it. But I fear this new build will kill it for good. Why Google Toolbar for FF? Because AFAIK it's the only search bar that lets me right-click on practically any search box and add it to the toolbar search ("Generate Custom Search"). No need to visit some toolbar website and search through their available search items only to find they don't actually end up in your toolbar at all.

The original Google Toolbar for FF was the easiest and best search tool for any browser, ever. The Chrome version is crap, which I find mystifying. You can't just go to imdb.com, right-click on their search box and add it to your search choices in the toolbar. WTF? Google? Bueller?

You may be aware of this, but if you are not . . . .

With Google you can specify the domain to search by adding 'site:fark.com' or whatever domain you want to search in. So, to search Fark for midget nurse tentacle porn, you would use

'midget nurse tentacle porn site:fark.com'

and Google will search for midget nurse tentacle porn only on fark.com

I know this.
But it means I must type more stuff and it leaves me at Google search results, not the desired website's search results.

For instance, let's say you watched a movie called "Blap" and it's about a historical event in 19th century East Borneo. You may want to see the imdb entry for the film, a Wikipedia entry for Borneo and a Google Image search for the leading lady. With the FF Google Toolbar, I type "Blap" and drop-down to IMDB. CTRL+T "Borneo" drop-down Wikipedia. CTRL+T "magala kesuma" drop-down GIS.

Done. I'm at the exact movie page on IMDB. I'm on the WIikipedia page for Borneo. And I'm looking at pages of photos of some Bornean broad. No more clicking Google results links. Google gets out of my way. I'm sick of staring at Google search results pages. I know where I want to go. Take me there.

And if I want to add a ...

If you open Chrome, type "IMDB.com" and hit tab, then type whatever you're searching for (say, Freddie Prince Jr) then it'll open up IMDB's search page, do a search for Freddie Prince Jr, and give you the IMDB search result.

Unhip1: I call shenanigans on the "limited use in business" gripes. It sounds more like you have internet connection glitches that have little to do with the browser, unless you're too lazy to adjust the settings in the first place, or install a proper ad/popup blocker to streamline your experience,

I used to have problems with Sharepoint working on Chrome. I just went to our normal Sharepoint sites and they all seem to work with Chrome now so they must have quietly fixed that.

No, mozilla, I want my browser to look the way it does now. Stop forcing UI changes on the main channel. Guess it's time for a couple more months of this: