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2012-05-04 09:26:05 AM  

UtileDysfunktion: bdub77: I wish cyclists had their own bike paths. I really do. I wish they had as many options as cars do. I wish they had little bridges they could bike over intersections with. I wish they had their own underground system of tunnels they could use. Something. Anything.


Pretty much THIS ^.

I'm not sure what it is, but years ago bicyclists didn't bother me. I think it has to do with greatly increased traffic in my area and the fact that nearly every soccer mom is now driving a 6000 lb. SUV while on the phone. I'm busy looking out for other vehicular traffic and then I've got some guy on bike practically throwing himself in front of my car saying HIT ME! HIT ME!

On a two-lane road to/from work, there was a guy on bike approaching from the opposite direction (in the other lane) with a Chevy Suburban coming up fast (speeding, actually) behind him. I'm about to pass both of them. Does the Suburban slow down and wait for me to go by and then safely pass the bicycle? Hell no, he/she veers over into my lane causing me to hit the brakes to avoid a head-on collision and then swings back to his own lane once they're past the bike. This goes on ALL THE TIME.


Lane positioning helps with this, if the cyclist rode closer to the center of the lane when their lane is not wide enough to let people pass when there's oncoming traffic, it greatly discourages unsafe passing. Then again, so does enforcement.
 
2012-05-04 09:30:11 AM  

Splinshints: litespeed74: Who's fault is it if you get so incredibly angry for losing 5-10 seconds of your day to a cyclist in the road?

What if I'm angry because I don't want to face the risk of losing an hour explaining to the cops why the corpse of some moron in weird pants is lodged in my windshield after he jumped off the curb into oncoming traffic and tried to race across two lanes instead of just waiting at the stop sign like everyone else?


Just like there's unlicensed drivers, there's people who own bikes and don't know how to operate 'em correctly. Don't automatically assume everyone with a bicycle is a moron. I assume you're a competent driver with enough patience to bear with me for a minute when I'm walking or biking somewhere and do my best to be predictable and stay out of everyone else's way, just as I do when I'm driving.

/That said, couldn't hurt for some of you farkers to try driving a truck, riding a bicycle or walking somewhere more often, maybe lean on your local authorities for not fixing dangerous infrastructure that creates traffic conflicts between modes...
 
2012-05-04 09:32:57 AM  

exyankee: What I really hate is where there is a designated bike path separate from the road, within 20 feet, and there are still those who insist on riding on the road.


One problem I see a lot is poor signage and conflicting signals. Seems all too common for signage to not indicate a cycletrack is present, and signals seem to ignore that, too (so the cycle track gets a through green the same time a turn signal on the parallel road isn't red). For side paths to work right, they need to be posted in advance so approaching cyclists unfamiliar with the area know where they're turning before they get there, and signals need to treat the path more like a railroad than a sidewalk.
 
2012-05-04 09:36:50 AM  

ph0rk:
My local favorite is when people ride side by side taking up all the bike lane and half the car line. farktards.


This bugs me when I'm on a bicycle and there's no reason for the overflow. It's one thing when it's rush hour and you're trying to overtake a steady stream of slower cyclists in the bicycle lane. It's another when you're just chatting away, since lane splitting is banned and anybody else who wants to pass legally is forced to the third lane...
 
2012-05-04 09:38:52 AM  

ph0rk: No, bicyclists who keep right aren't a problem. Bicyclists who try their hardest to take up the entire line on a 55 mph highway and refuse to move to the right are farking it up for everybody.


Is there a hard shoulder wide enough for them to get completely out of the lane? No? Then they're where they need to be, for better or worse.
 
2012-05-04 09:41:30 AM  

DontMakeMeComeBackThere: Whenever possible, if I encounter a group of cyclists that ride outside the bike lane, and block the driving lane, I just drive around them, pull back into the driving lane, and stop.


Don't be a co-moron. Also, there's no such thing as a "driving lane." You probably meant "general access lane." There are reserved lanes, but typically they're for things like bicycles, buses, taxis, etc., who can use them, and nobody else.
 
2012-05-04 09:51:17 AM  

starsrift: Silly Jesus: I think to a lot of people it isn't necessarily the blatant breaking of the law, but rather the inconsideration of the act of riding down the road itself.

Then instead of hating cyclists, maybe you should work with them to get more bike paths in your community. Or roads not built so narrow that nothing except an econobox could pass a cyclist. Or laws like, cycling on sidewalks is permitted in the absence of room on the roadway. Because, yeah, getting cyclists off of sidewalks was a good move, there was the occaisional cyclist-on-pedestrian accident. But car-on-cyclist accident is far, far worse. Much less people are able to walk away from them.


1. Who is going to pay for these special paths that are used by one person a month?

2. It is actually more dangerous for the bicyclist to ride on the sidewalk, in addition to an increased danger to pedestrians. It's a visibility issue with cars pulling out or turning in. I looked up the statistics in another discussion about this...they are on the Google if you're interested.

So, yeah...I'm not interested in shelling out more tax dollars so that you can ride slowly parallel to the road and riding on the sidewalk is not only douchy toward pedestrians, it's actually more dangerous for the cyclist too.
 
2012-05-04 09:57:52 AM  

Dimensio: Drivers still fail entirely to notice my presence. I am considering purchase of an air horn.


Pretty much mandatory to get asshole Portland drivers to wake the fark up.
 
2012-05-04 09:58:43 AM  

Uchiha_Cycliste: Mock26: Uchiha_Cycliste: Mock26: There is no need to cross the yellow line. There is plenty of room to safely pass them and stay on your side of the road.

Generally there is, but CA law requires 3-4 feet between cars and bike when a car over takes a bike. Sometimes the cyclist can't ride far enough to the right to accommodate that so sometimes it is necessary, for the sake of safety, for a car to cross the double yellow.

If that is the case then cyclists should ensure that there is 3' of space between them and the white line, where that is feasible. That means that in the picture posted those three cyclists are being douchebags.

No, The law stipulates that a cyclist is required to ride as far to the right as is safe. All other laws play second fiddle to that one.
I'll be back in 15 or so.. Gotta test some things.

Quickly though, it's the car's job to pass safely, and find or allow enough room, not the cyclists. The law is clear on this.


That is what I was implying. Sorry I was not clear on that.

With that being said, though, two of those three cyclists are not staying as far to the right as is safe.
 
2012-05-04 10:03:02 AM  

Baloo Uriza: ph0rk: No, bicyclists who keep right aren't a problem. Bicyclists who try their hardest to take up the entire line on a 55 mph highway and refuse to move to the right are farking it up for everybody.

Is there a hard shoulder wide enough for them to get completely out of the lane? No? Then they're where they need to be, for better or worse.


Were they riding single file? Unless it is a sanctioned race then the cyclists should be riding single file.
 
2012-05-04 10:07:01 AM  

beezeltown: One cyclist holding up 50 cars is selfish AND a waste of gas. Happens almost daily to/from work for me. Separate lane, fine. Pleasure riding during rush hour: screw off, jerk.


Because, as we all know, it's 100% impossible that he's going to work, too.
 
2012-05-04 10:10:02 AM  

Wadded Beef: The sign is a bit douchey but nothing to wad up one's undergarments. Aren't most cyclists car drivers at some point, too?


Yes!
 
2012-05-04 10:11:45 AM  

JackieRabbit: Meanwhile, about six months ago, the state finished a $20M project to resurface all the streets in the area around my office and widen them to contain bile lanes. Since the completion of the project, I have seen exactly two cyclists use the system. What a waste of the taxpayer's money.


Do they connect to anything yet? No? Well, there's your problem. You have to build out the system more than a few random and inconveniently located bike lanes to get induced ridership. That said, if you build it, they will come, just like adding freeway lanes causes more people to drive.
 
2012-05-04 10:19:02 AM  

Dr Jack Badofsky: Speed: A cyclist traveling at less than normal traffic speed must remain on the right side as far as possible, except when unsafe to do so."


New Hampshire law? No, it's not as far right as possible, it's as far right as practicable to avoid the edge of pavement, debris, drain grates, preparing to turn left, overtaking, going through where there's a right turn lane, puddles, the door zone, sand or ice. So it's pretty reasonable to expect cyclists 3-5 feet from the edge of road.
 
2012-05-04 10:20:50 AM  

violentsalvation: When they do that they really cause a lot of cars to almost rearend each other, especially when you come up on them after cresting a hill.


I'd say bad defensive driving practices do that. What if it wasn't a peloton but a boulder or loaded palette that fell off a truck? Always leave yourself an out and don't expect going plaid to be the right speed all the time.
 
2012-05-04 10:22:24 AM  

DontMakeMeComeBackThere: antidisestablishmentarianism: Faust_Motel: Stick shift ought to be mandatory.

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As a driver whose never driven a stick - why would cyclists want everyone to drive a stick?


Driving stick pretty much forces your attention to the road and predisposes both hands to operating the vehicle when you're in city traffic.
 
2012-05-04 10:27:30 AM  

Silly Jesus: Uchiha_Cycliste: Like I've mentioned before the problem is a small minority of cyclists that are most visible because of their tomfoolery. For every jackass on a bike there are 10-15 other riders you didn't see. so, to the average (dumbass) American all they ever see is cyclists flaunting their breaking the rules. Surely you recognize that sentiment in this thread and all the others like it. So these buffoons spout off that all cyclists are bad, and their views are reinforced by other unobservant fat-ass pricks who proclaim the same thing. It's a 20 couch-potatoe echo chamber driven by the 1/15 cyclists who have no problems blowing through lights.

Anyways, these threads are always the same, and I tend to avoid at least half of them these days. However I do like helping other cyclists, or farkers who *want* to be cyclists. It's also worth occasionally standing ujp for the community as a whole and... let's face it, I'm vain, I can't help it I have beautiful veins, and it's fun for me to talk about my progress training.

I think to a lot of people it isn't necessarily the blatant breaking of the law, but rather the inconsideration of the act of riding down the road itself.

Traffic was especially heavy the other day on a 2 lane hilly road (which means there was very little opportunity to cross the double yellow to pass) and I, along with the ~8-10 cars behind me, was driving along behind this guy who was biking at about 10mph. It lasted for what must have been 10 minutes.

Now everyone will say that this wasn't a big deal because it was only a few minutes...and that's true, it wasn't the end of the world. But, it was still inconsiderate. This guy held up everyone on the road because he chose a mode of transportation that doesn't mesh with the circumstances.

I often wonder what bicyclists would do / feel if a group of people got in front of them and just started walking slowly. I'm sure that it would annoy them and that they would feel much the same way that driv ...


Technically, the cyclist has to pull over and let others pass--if there is a safe place to do so. But trust me, as a motorcyclist who enjoys riding twisty, two-lane mountain roads, there are more car drivers on the road who do not know that this law applies to them, too. And the best roads around here have turnout lanes, which clueless, sightseeing drivers RARELY use to let others pass.

Basically, most people are clueless about the rules of the road and many are douchebags on top of that. Some of them ride bikes, some ride motorcycles, but most of them (by sheer population size) drive cars.
 
2012-05-04 10:29:01 AM  

Uchiha_Cycliste: Those ones make sense when you are in a car and can't use your right arm to signal, but on a bike, pointing at either where I want to go, or which way I will be turning works


Page 8 of the Oregon manual says either is OK. I've yet to see conflicting information from other states. I tend to only do the right-hand right signal if I have traffic to my right, otherwise I right-signal left-handed because that's usually my traffic side.
 
2012-05-04 10:31:27 AM  

medius: farking assholes

and none of them install bells anymore to warn you before they speed through a traffic sign and try to install a bike lane up your ass


Still don't understand why lights and a bell aren't mandatory equipment required to be installed by the manufacturer.
 
2012-05-04 10:34:08 AM  

Uchiha_Cycliste: medius: farking assholes

and none of them install bells anymore to warn you before they speed through a traffic sign and try to install a bike lane up your ass

I have the incredibell, it's under my stem to make room for Garmin. it's my ped warning system


I need to get my airhorn fixed; the incredibell doesn't cut it over the deafening din of Portland, much less the headphone wearing pedestrians that walk on the centerlines of cycleways instead of...really anywhere else but the dead center of both lanes would be easier to pass.
 
2012-05-04 10:36:06 AM  

Nick Spiceyweiner: jaytkay: Here, let me save you all a lot of time by posting your sentiments for you.

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I'll remember that if I ever see you riding your bike, and I'll speed up.


Because assault with a deadly weapon/attempted murder is a rational response to having to move your ankle a few degrees and wait a minute.
 
2012-05-04 10:37:27 AM  

The Gordie Howe Hat Trick: When I'm on sidewalks or "paths" (Cherry Creek Trail, Douglas Co, Colorado I'm looking at you...) they go whipping by at high velocity; its farkin' dangerous. I take my 3 year old down to the playground and we gotta walk on the Trail for about 200 yards; even though the rules state they will "yield to equestrians, runners and hikers. Keep your bike under control and at safe speed" they still act pissy towards pedestrians with the gall to walk on "their" trail, even when we're way off to the right. Gotta keep my head on swivel.


Get your city to make it a proper cycleway and install a sidewalk, then. Everyone wins.
 
2012-05-04 10:38:51 AM  

JerkStore: There are a lot of alternative streets that have less traffic and go to the same place, and well, since you are doing it for exercise after all, you really shouldn't object to an extra block or two of riding distance.


So why aren't you driving on 'em? Odds are the reason is identical for the cyclists.
 
2012-05-04 10:40:40 AM  

thisisyourbrainonFark: All of you complaining about me and Lance riding two abreast can bite me.

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Better put a wide load banner on it... you're two lanes wide!
 
2012-05-04 10:42:47 AM  

RaceBoatDriver: Cyclists fark up the rules of the road. Stop signs are optional depending on their own safety and convenience. 100% will run a stop sign if no traffic threatens them. 20% will run a stop sign even if traffic threatens them if they feel they can get away with it. But this isn't a huge deal. I can see the logic they use in a limited environment. They're not hurting anyone I guess.


Just out of curiousity, how often to you come to a full and complete stop in your car at a stop sign? I do, and at least when I'm driving in Oregon, Washington or California, almost collect insurance money every time because the guy behind me thinks it's unreasonable to stop at a farking stop sign.
 
2012-05-04 10:46:50 AM  

Baloo Uriza: beezeltown: One cyclist holding up 50 cars is selfish AND a waste of gas. Happens almost daily to/from work for me. Separate lane, fine. Pleasure riding during rush hour: screw off, jerk.

Because, as we all know, it's 100% impossible that he's going to work, too.


Maybe it's different where you live, but in CA, if you're holding up a large group of motorists, even if you're in a car, you have to pull over where it's safe and let them pass. The problem is, most people are unaware of this law and it's very hard to enforce.
 
2012-05-04 10:47:00 AM  

Uchiha_Cycliste: Incidentally, I've been trying for over a year now to get a speeding ticket with no luck =(
when I was 16 I was given a 53 in a 35. So getting a 55 in a 35 should be a no brainer.. but nooooOOOOooo


I got a 45 in a 20 school zone when I was 14, successfully fought it on the grounds that if I had to slow to 20 in a school zone for myself, so did everybody driving with kids in their car.
 
2012-05-04 10:48:17 AM  

Magnanimous_J: Tawnos: The_Sponge: 2) The ones who really piss me off are the bicyclists who decide that it's a good idea to ride two abreast instead of single file. Get out of the road, assholes.

If the road has two lanes in each direction without a wide shoulder, doing this is much safer than single file. It gets assholes to actually switch lanes rather than barely moving over and buzzing you.

When I'm on my motorcycle and see cyclists doing this, I love to either blast past them a foot away or line up my muffler with their fork and just cruise there for a mile or so, riding one gear too low.


I hope you spook one into swerving in front of you; road rash and some broken bones would do you some good.
 
2012-05-04 11:12:44 AM  

cuzsis: foxbrook78: Lazy repost modified from an '09 fark thread:

I used to ride angry in Boston, often with flagrant disregard for laws not relevant to my safety or the safety of others. The things is, I could make my commute 30-40% faster by bike than in a car and I couldn't park a car anywhere near my job anyway. There was a bike lane vaguely parallel to my commute for part of it, but was like riding on the sidewalk due to all the pedestrians that used it to get to the T-station. I gave up that route after I almost took out a guy that looked up from his phone and panicked and 'dodged' into my lane (it was lined), I laid the bike down to avoid him (studded tires are unforgiving for tight maneuvers on granite).

All the accidents I had were when I was 100% in compliance with traffic law. Traffic laws written for cars do not protect the safety of cyclists. Ever taken a car door to the shoulder? 25mph to zero in a couple inches, absolutely no warning. Its safer to take the lane and draft trailer trucks at 35-40mph than ride right where you're gonna get raped by some a-hole who can't use a rearview mirror ON THE DOOR before opening it. I have kicked off the fender of a car as it pinched me at the curb while he made an illegal U-turn, been almost passed by buses that immediately run me into the the curb like I don't exist more times than I can count.

/not that I'm bitter
//doored by a prius driver, the guy felt really bad, wrote me a check for my taco'ed front wheel
///doored by some kid getting out of the passenger seat while stopped at a light. Who sees that coming? (had to speak with mom's insurance company to the tune of $900.)
////struck by someone turning right (through me) down a side street, I got thrown clear and slid down the road on my back while perfectly perched on my messenger bag, amazingly, no road rash, at least on me. I chased her down and screamed at her 5 blocks away. I was angry.

Um...if the car is stopped at a red light, why are you passing it? Sho ...


I was rolling up to the light in the space between the parked cars (on my right) and the cars stopped at the light (on my left)... pretty standard behavior. I was slightly more toward the left, as generally you can trust 'traffic' a little more. You can expect parked cars to fling a door open without looking in the rear view mirror, but you don't expect it so much from someone in a travel lane. Anyway, rolling up to the light, maybe 6-7 cars back and BAM!!!!. I'm half inside/half outside a car. The edge of the door opened just enough to catch my (road style) handle bars left of the stem, fortunately my shoulder hit the top corner of the door rather than my collar bone or my face.

I detect that you may be upset that I was passing a stopped car on the right and that I should have stopped in line with first car that I approached that was stopped at the light. Not actually in the lane though, just to the right of it. In practice, stopping constantly means that you are traveling more slowly and while a particular individual driver only has to pass you once, you are traveling a lot slower on average and more total bike/vehicle passes take place. The guy who "keeps having to pass me" maybe 3-5 times doesn't understand that I am actually keeping pace with traffic. The lights are timed. Mashing the gas pedal to win the next traffic light is pointless.

My philosophy for my short commute was to ride as fast as possible, maintaining the speed of car traffic whenever possible. Ride predictably, no sudden moves, always make very visible signals for turns, wear bright colors etc. I did take advantage of the ability to roll up to lights while cars line up, then jam on the pedals when the light turns green.
 
2012-05-04 11:30:37 AM  

Mitch Taylor's Bro: Silly Jesus: Uchiha_Cycliste: Like I've mentioned before the problem is a small minority of cyclists that are most visible because of their tomfoolery. For every jackass on a bike there are 10-15 other riders you didn't see. so, to the average (dumbass) American all they ever see is cyclists flaunting their breaking the rules. Surely you recognize that sentiment in this thread and all the others like it. So these buffoons spout off that all cyclists are bad, and their views are reinforced by other unobservant fat-ass pricks who proclaim the same thing. It's a 20 couch-potatoe echo chamber driven by the 1/15 cyclists who have no problems blowing through lights.

Anyways, these threads are always the same, and I tend to avoid at least half of them these days. However I do like helping other cyclists, or farkers who *want* to be cyclists. It's also worth occasionally standing ujp for the community as a whole and... let's face it, I'm vain, I can't help it I have beautiful veins, and it's fun for me to talk about my progress training.

I think to a lot of people it isn't necessarily the blatant breaking of the law, but rather the inconsideration of the act of riding down the road itself.

Traffic was especially heavy the other day on a 2 lane hilly road (which means there was very little opportunity to cross the double yellow to pass) and I, along with the ~8-10 cars behind me, was driving along behind this guy who was biking at about 10mph. It lasted for what must have been 10 minutes.

Now everyone will say that this wasn't a big deal because it was only a few minutes...and that's true, it wasn't the end of the world. But, it was still inconsiderate. This guy held up everyone on the road because he chose a mode of transportation that doesn't mesh with the circumstances.

I often wonder what bicyclists would do / feel if a group of people got in front of them and just started walking slowly. I'm sure that it would annoy them and that they would feel much the same ...


1. I have NEVER seen a bicycle pull over to let the built up traffic go by.
2. Yes, by sheer number more motorists are guilty of holding others up, but by the very nature of a bicycle and its inherent slow speed relative to vehicles, every single bicycle does this to some degree unless there is a bike lane.

I, and most others that I know that share my annoyance with road bikers (many of us mountain bikers), hate the mentality of "I want to ride my bicycle to work/play, so to hell with the fact that EVERYONE around me has to significantly adjust their driving in order for me to do so." I don't understand that mentality, but I guess it's the American way.
 
2012-05-04 11:35:45 AM  

foxbrook78: cuzsis: foxbrook78: Lazy repost modified from an '09 fark thread:

I used to ride angry in Boston, often with flagrant disregard for laws not relevant to my safety or the safety of others. The things is, I could make my commute 30-40% faster by bike than in a car and I couldn't park a car anywhere near my job anyway. There was a bike lane vaguely parallel to my commute for part of it, but was like riding on the sidewalk due to all the pedestrians that used it to get to the T-station. I gave up that route after I almost took out a guy that looked up from his phone and panicked and 'dodged' into my lane (it was lined), I laid the bike down to avoid him (studded tires are unforgiving for tight maneuvers on granite).

All the accidents I had were when I was 100% in compliance with traffic law. Traffic laws written for cars do not protect the safety of cyclists. Ever taken a car door to the shoulder? 25mph to zero in a couple inches, absolutely no warning. Its safer to take the lane and draft trailer trucks at 35-40mph than ride right where you're gonna get raped by some a-hole who can't use a rearview mirror ON THE DOOR before opening it. I have kicked off the fender of a car as it pinched me at the curb while he made an illegal U-turn, been almost passed by buses that immediately run me into the the curb like I don't exist more times than I can count.

/not that I'm bitter
//doored by a prius driver, the guy felt really bad, wrote me a check for my taco'ed front wheel
///doored by some kid getting out of the passenger seat while stopped at a light. Who sees that coming? (had to speak with mom's insurance company to the tune of $900.)
////struck by someone turning right (through me) down a side street, I got thrown clear and slid down the road on my back while perfectly perched on my messenger bag, amazingly, no road rash, at least on me. I chased her down and screamed at her 5 blocks away. I was angry.

Um...if the car is stopped at a red light, why are you passing ...


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Until then, no more complaining about getting hit by doors.
 
2012-05-04 11:36:21 AM  

Baloo Uriza: Uchiha_Cycliste: Incidentally, I've been trying for over a year now to get a speeding ticket with no luck =(
when I was 16 I was given a 53 in a 35. So getting a 55 in a 35 should be a no brainer.. but nooooOOOOooo

I got a 45 in a 20 school zone when I was 14, successfully fought it on the grounds that if I had to slow to 20 in a school zone for myself, so did everybody driving with kids in their car.


Huh?
 
2012-05-04 11:49:55 AM  

Silly Jesus: foxbrook78: cuzsis: foxbrook78:

Um...if the car is stopped at a red light, why are ...

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Until then, no more complaining about getting hit by doors.


Hmm... its legal for a bike to pass a car on the right in Massachusetts.

Again, I will repeat because I wrote a lot of words and you may not be able to read them all:

I can't promise to have never broken a traffic law, but I have never been anywhere near breaking a traffic law when involved in a bicycle/vehicle accident. It was the fault of motorists who did not bother to see a bright fluorescent farking yellow person in their road.
 
2012-05-04 12:01:50 PM  

Baloo Uriza: Magnanimous_J: Tawnos: The_Sponge: 2) The ones who really piss me off are the bicyclists who decide that it's a good idea to ride two abreast instead of single file. Get out of the road, assholes.

If the road has two lanes in each direction without a wide shoulder, doing this is much safer than single file. It gets assholes to actually switch lanes rather than barely moving over and buzzing you.

When I'm on my motorcycle and see cyclists doing this, I love to either blast past them a foot away or line up my muffler with their fork and just cruise there for a mile or so, riding one gear too low.

I hope you spook one into swerving in front of you; road rash and some broken bones would do you some good.


You are too kind, I hope he crashes and burns while and because of doing this stupid evil shiat.
 
2012-05-04 12:04:59 PM  

foxbrook78: cuzsis: foxbrook78: Lazy repost modified from an '09 fark thread:

I used to ride angry in Boston, often with flagrant disregard for laws not relevant to my safety or the safety of others. The things is, I could make my commute 30-40% faster by bike than in a car and I couldn't park a car anywhere near my job anyway. There was a bike lane vaguely parallel to my commute for part of it, but was like riding on the sidewalk due to all the pedestrians that used it to get to the T-station. I gave up that route after I almost took out a guy that looked up from his phone and panicked and 'dodged' into my lane (it was lined), I laid the bike down to avoid him (studded tires are unforgiving for tight maneuvers on granite).

All the accidents I had were when I was 100% in compliance with traffic law. Traffic laws written for cars do not protect the safety of cyclists. Ever taken a car door to the shoulder? 25mph to zero in a couple inches, absolutely no warning. Its safer to take the lane and draft trailer trucks at 35-40mph than ride right where you're gonna get raped by some a-hole who can't use a rearview mirror ON THE DOOR before opening it. I have kicked off the fender of a car as it pinched me at the curb while he made an illegal U-turn, been almost passed by buses that immediately run me into the the curb like I don't exist more times than I can count.

/not that I'm bitter
//doored by a prius driver, the guy felt really bad, wrote me a check for my taco'ed front wheel
///doored by some kid getting out of the passenger seat while stopped at a light. Who sees that coming? (had to speak with mom's insurance company to the tune of $900.)
////struck by someone turning right (through me) down a side street, I got thrown clear and slid down the road on my back while perfectly perched on my messenger bag, amazingly, no road rash, at least on me. I chased her down and screamed at her 5 blocks away. I was angry.

Um...if the car is stopped at a red light, why are you passing ...


TLDR: Screw the rules, I'm a cyclist!

/You earned that door to the face you moron
//hopefully it will be a dump truck next time so maybe you will learn something
 
2012-05-04 12:05:07 PM  

Silly Jesus: Mitch Taylor's Bro: Silly Jesus: Uchiha_Cycliste: Like I've mentioned before the problem is a small minority of cyclists that are most visible because of their tomfoolery. For every jackass on a bike there are 10-15 other riders you didn't see. so, to the average (dumbass) American all they ever see is cyclists flaunting their breaking the rules. Surely you recognize that sentiment in this thread and all the others like it. So these buffoons spout off that all cyclists are bad, and their views are reinforced by other unobservant fat-ass pricks who proclaim the same thing. It's a 20 couch-potatoe echo chamber driven by the 1/15 cyclists who have no problems blowing through lights.

Anyways, these threads are always the same, and I tend to avoid at least half of them these days. However I do like helping other cyclists, or farkers who *want* to be cyclists. It's also worth occasionally standing ujp for the community as a whole and... let's face it, I'm vain, I can't help it I have beautiful veins, and it's fun for me to talk about my progress training.

I think to a lot of people it isn't necessarily the blatant breaking of the law, but rather the inconsideration of the act of riding down the road itself.

Traffic was especially heavy the other day on a 2 lane hilly road (which means there was very little opportunity to cross the double yellow to pass) and I, along with the ~8-10 cars behind me, was driving along behind this guy who was biking at about 10mph. It lasted for what must have been 10 minutes.

Now everyone will say that this wasn't a big deal because it was only a few minutes...and that's true, it wasn't the end of the world. But, it was still inconsiderate. This guy held up everyone on the road because he chose a mode of transportation that doesn't mesh with the circumstances.

I often wonder what bicyclists would do / feel if a group of people got in front of them and just started walking slowly. I'm sure that it would annoy them and that they would ...


I suspect you exaggerate, lie, are totally unobservant of bikes not breaking the law or are one of the morons who think bikes are toys and that roads are for cars and adults.


On that note, off to work!
 
2012-05-04 12:11:02 PM  

foxbrook78: Silly Jesus: foxbrook78: cuzsis: foxbrook78:

Um...if the car is stopped at a red light, why are ...

((Off topic . jpg ))

Until then, no more complaining about getting hit by doors.

Hmm... its legal for a bike to pass a car on the right in Massachusetts.

Again, I will repeat because I wrote a lot of words and you may not be able to read them all:

I can't promise to have never broken a traffic law, but I have never been anywhere near breaking a traffic law when involved in a bicycle/vehicle accident. It was the fault of motorists who did not bother to see a bright fluorescent farking yellow person in their road.


Ah, my apologies if it is not illegal there. It's illegal in my state and two others that I know of off hand.
 
2012-05-04 12:12:46 PM  

Uchiha_Cycliste: Silly Jesus: Mitch Taylor's Bro: Silly Jesus: Uchiha_Cycliste: Like I've mentioned before the problem is a small minority of cyclists that are most visible because of their tomfoolery. For every jackass on a bike there are 10-15 other riders you didn't see. so, to the average (dumbass) American all they ever see is cyclists flaunting their breaking the rules. Surely you recognize that sentiment in this thread and all the others like it. So these buffoons spout off that all cyclists are bad, and their views are reinforced by other unobservant fat-ass pricks who proclaim the same thing. It's a 20 couch-potatoe echo chamber driven by the 1/15 cyclists who have no problems blowing through lights.

Anyways, these threads are always the same, and I tend to avoid at least half of them these days. However I do like helping other cyclists, or farkers who *want* to be cyclists. It's also worth occasionally standing ujp for the community as a whole and... let's face it, I'm vain, I can't help it I have beautiful veins, and it's fun for me to talk about my progress training.

I think to a lot of people it isn't necessarily the blatant breaking of the law, but rather the inconsideration of the act of riding down the road itself.

Traffic was especially heavy the other day on a 2 lane hilly road (which means there was very little opportunity to cross the double yellow to pass) and I, along with the ~8-10 cars behind me, was driving along behind this guy who was biking at about 10mph. It lasted for what must have been 10 minutes.

Now everyone will say that this wasn't a big deal because it was only a few minutes...and that's true, it wasn't the end of the world. But, it was still inconsiderate. This guy held up everyone on the road because he chose a mode of transportation that doesn't mesh with the circumstances.

I often wonder what bicyclists would do / feel if a group of people got in front of them and just started walking slowly. I'm sure that it would annoy them and th ...


When did I say that they all break the law? Way to miss the point, moran.
 
2012-05-04 12:12:59 PM  

Tawnos: Magnanimous_J: When I'm on my motorcycle and see cyclists doing this, I love to either blast past them a foot away or line up my muffler with their fork and just cruise there for a mile or so, riding one gear too low.

Of course you do, you're a self-important Seattle douchebag :)


Also known as "Californian." Seriously, Portland and Seattle might as well be in Orange County.
 
2012-05-04 12:13:20 PM  

Silly Jesus: Baloo Uriza: Uchiha_Cycliste: Incidentally, I've been trying for over a year now to get a speeding ticket with no luck =(
when I was 16 I was given a 53 in a 35. So getting a 55 in a 35 should be a no brainer.. but nooooOOOOooo

I got a 45 in a 20 school zone when I was 14, successfully fought it on the grounds that if I had to slow to 20 in a school zone for myself, so did everybody driving with kids in their car.

Huh?


which part of this is difficult to understand? Point it out and I will explain what he is saying.
 
2012-05-04 12:13:56 PM  

Baloo Uriza: Tawnos: Magnanimous_J: When I'm on my motorcycle and see cyclists doing this, I love to either blast past them a foot away or line up my muffler with their fork and just cruise there for a mile or so, riding one gear too low.

Of course you do, you're a self-important Seattle douchebag :)

Also known as "Californian." Seriously, Portland and Seattle might as well be in Orange County.


Except for Orange County being deep red, and not so much Portland and Seattle.
 
2012-05-04 12:17:34 PM  

Uchiha_Cycliste: Silly Jesus: Baloo Uriza: Uchiha_Cycliste: Incidentally, I've been trying for over a year now to get a speeding ticket with no luck =(
when I was 16 I was given a 53 in a 35. So getting a 55 in a 35 should be a no brainer.. but nooooOOOOooo

I got a 45 in a 20 school zone when I was 14, successfully fought it on the grounds that if I had to slow to 20 in a school zone for myself, so did everybody driving with kids in their car.

Huh?

which part of this is difficult to understand? Point it out and I will explain what he is saying.


The part where he says a judge decided that he wasn't actually speeding because other people were speeding too.
 
2012-05-04 12:18:31 PM  

Silly Jesus: Uchiha_Cycliste: Silly Jesus: Baloo Uriza: Uchiha_Cycliste: Incidentally, I've been trying for over a year now to get a speeding ticket with no luck =(
when I was 16 I was given a 53 in a 35. So getting a 55 in a 35 should be a no brainer.. but nooooOOOOooo

I got a 45 in a 20 school zone when I was 14, successfully fought it on the grounds that if I had to slow to 20 in a school zone for myself, so did everybody driving with kids in their car.

Huh?

which part of this is difficult to understand? Point it out and I will explain what he is saying.

The part where he says a judge decided that he wasn't actually speeding because other people were speeding too.


The judge didn't say he wasn't speeding, it sounds like the judge let him off because he was traveling at the common speed, dictated by all the cars screaming through.
 
2012-05-04 12:24:56 PM  

Uchiha_Cycliste: Silly Jesus: Uchiha_Cycliste: Silly Jesus: Baloo Uriza: Uchiha_Cycliste: Incidentally, I've been trying for over a year now to get a speeding ticket with no luck =(
when I was 16 I was given a 53 in a 35. So getting a 55 in a 35 should be a no brainer.. but nooooOOOOooo

I got a 45 in a 20 school zone when I was 14, successfully fought it on the grounds that if I had to slow to 20 in a school zone for myself, so did everybody driving with kids in their car.

Huh?

which part of this is difficult to understand? Point it out and I will explain what he is saying.

The part where he says a judge decided that he wasn't actually speeding because other people were speeding too.

The judge didn't say he wasn't speeding, it sounds like the judge let him off because he was traveling at the common speed, dictated by all the cars screaming through.


Hell, reckless driving (>24mph over the limit) is an arresting offense in my state. Not to mention the school zone tacked on to that. Just had a hard time believing that a judge threw it out and/or the officers weren't stopping other vehicles going more than twice the speed limit through a school zone.

If he got out of it, good for him. It just wasn't the most believable scenario in my experience.
 
2012-05-04 12:25:20 PM  

Silly Jesus: foxbrook78: Silly Jesus: foxbrook78: cuzsis: foxbrook78:

Um...if the car is stopped at a red light, why are ...

((Off topic . jpg ))

Until then, no more complaining about getting hit by doors.

Hmm... its legal for a bike to pass a car on the right in Massachusetts.

Again, I will repeat because I wrote a lot of words and you may not be able to read them all:

I can't promise to have never broken a traffic law, but I have never been anywhere near breaking a traffic law when involved in a bicycle/vehicle accident. It was the fault of motorists who did not bother to see a bright fluorescent farking yellow person in their road.

Ah, my apologies if it is not illegal there. It's illegal in my state and two others that I know of off hand.


I will pass slow cars on the left when legal and practicable, particularly since an abnormally slow car may suddenly pull to the right across the white line without signalling. Using the left lane to pass cars on a 2x2 lane road seems to bother motorists though. The bottom line is most don't want bikes anywhere near them. They seem to think that if you are on the road then you are automatically in their way, even if you aren't. That having to cope with your presence is somehow an insurmountable burden.
 
2012-05-04 12:25:49 PM  

jaytkay: fireclown: fixies only real purpose is as a training regimin, and for a few velodrome-style racing events. I don't get the appeal of them for road use.

If you're riding around Flatland, gears are an unnecessary complication.

/ Chicagoan
// On my commute the only things remotely like (very small) hills are bridges
/// I have a geared bike & a fixie, they're both a lot of fun



Uhh, are brakes an unnecessary complication as well? I'll never understand why anyone would ride a fixie on the road, you need to STOP you know. I completely understand it in a velodrome event.

/Unless you mean fixie == no gears, but you can coast and have brakes -- then nevermind.
 
2012-05-04 12:28:48 PM  

Baloo Uriza: sharpie_69: I live just off a very popular street with the "road-bike" crowd in my town. I can't tell you the number of times I've watched 20+ road bikes fly through a 4-way stop . Sorry guys -- *each* of you have to come to a stop. A line of 20 cars doesn't just "go through" after the first guy waves us on...

I wonder if there's an engineering need for a four way stop, and if it's already popular with cyclists, why it's not a bike boulevard with the cross streets getting "STOP - CROSS TRAFFIC DOES NOT STOP" signage.


That is a valid question -- but until that happens the road-bikes need to stop.
 
2012-05-04 12:29:14 PM  

Pitabred: Came across these guys one weekend north of Boulder, CO. The speed limit on that road is 65, and they just didn't care that they were forcing people over the yellow lines to give them safe distance, especially at speed.


The lanes are wide enough there that you could remain in lane and pass with more than enough room safely. Nobody's being forced over the line to go around.
 
2012-05-04 12:30:11 PM  

Magnanimous_J: Tawnos: Magnanimous_J: When I'm on my motorcycle and see cyclists doing this, I love to either blast past them a foot away or line up my muffler with their fork and just cruise there for a mile or so, riding one gear too low.

Of course you do, you're a self-important Seattle douchebag :)

Maybe, but at least I can keep up with traffic! :)


In Seattle? So can a marathon runner. Average traffic speed in Seattle barely cracks 13 MPH.
 
2012-05-04 12:30:14 PM  

foxbrook78: Silly Jesus: foxbrook78: Silly Jesus: foxbrook78: cuzsis: foxbrook78:

Um...if the car is stopped at a red light, why are ...

((Off topic . jpg ))

Until then, no more complaining about getting hit by doors.

Hmm... its legal for a bike to pass a car on the right in Massachusetts.

Again, I will repeat because I wrote a lot of words and you may not be able to read them all:

I can't promise to have never broken a traffic law, but I have never been anywhere near breaking a traffic law when involved in a bicycle/vehicle accident. It was the fault of motorists who did not bother to see a bright fluorescent farking yellow person in their road.

Ah, my apologies if it is not illegal there. It's illegal in my state and two others that I know of off hand.

I will pass slow cars on the left when legal and practicable, particularly since an abnormally slow car may suddenly pull to the right across the white line without signalling. Using the left lane to pass cars on a 2x2 lane road seems to bother motorists though. The bottom line is most don't want bikes anywhere near them. They seem to think that if you are on the road then you are automatically in their way, even if you aren't. That having to cope with your presence is somehow an insurmountable burden.


Do you enjoy walkers on a bike path? Do they kind of annoy you even though dodging them isn't an insurmountable burden? That's how drivers feel about bikes.
 
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