Faust_Motel: On a bike, I'm on the side of "follow all the rules, taking the lane is legal when it is unsafe to ride all the way to the right, and fark any driver who thinks they know better than me when to take the lane."

Ah. The music video was sort of hard on the sarcasm meter. In that case, I'm pretty much on your side.

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Could we have the next couple photos in that sequence, please?

I think the cyclists here in Florida are crazy people...

I don't really care that they ride on roads with no room for bikes, and force cars into the other lane, or down to 20mph in a 45mph zone.

I am just amazed at their apparent death wish (at least they come pre-wrapped in that stretchy bodybag material for easy disposal, and it tends to keep the intestines intact). You would have to be clinically insane to ride on the roads here in FL, with the old folks and pill addicts - we lose one or two a month here, yet they still keep on pedaling! Gotta love that fightin' spirit!

You'd think that the population of bikers would be reduced from all the culling that takes place, but apparently they enjoy cheating death on a daily basis and love the thrill of the "chase" I suppose. I get it's their right...go to town cyclists...but you are still wacko for doing it.

IamAwake: I used to be an avid bicyclist...up until the whole critical mass, "we're a vehicle!" BS started. DMV handbooks for most states clearly say that if there is no bike lane, you should still be single file and all the way over to the right, so cars can pass. People intentionally go out of their way to distrupt traffic flow. I stopped bicycling because I didn't want to be associated with such people. That, and I didn't want someone who was more or less reasonably upset at bicyclists to take it out on me one day, running me over on purpose despite my being all the way to the right.

I still refuse to own a car, though. Thus, leading me to why I now have a motorcycle - and why I now run more than I used to.

//has been hit twice while on a bicycle, one of which was quite serious. Both while I was in a bike lane.
//wish the "critital mass" tards hadn't ruined it for everyone else

Their righteous fury is unquenchable... Never mind that they make things more dangerous for anybody on a bike.

sigdiamond2000: I realize this doesn't apply in your case, but every time I see one of those "13.1" stickers on a car, I think to myself "I'm very impressed that you're unable to run a full marathon."

they're different things. There is a lot to be said for halfs. It's WAY easier to train for 'em, and you can knock one out in two hours which means that your whole day isn't shot, and more places can host them since the whole city isn't tied up for two days. I tend to run more of them than marathons.

IamAwake: //wish the "critital mass" tards hadn't ruined it for everyone else

Also the people with brakeless fixies. The whole no breaks and enforced high spin on descent just seems like a bad idea. I swear some of them run the lights/act like assholes not because they want to but because they can't stop.

I had one trying to draft me the other day, so I took a turn nice and hard. Since I was on a free wheel I could bring my inside pedal up and lean the bike over further. He tried to follow suit and dumped his ass when the inside pedal hit the pavement.

farking assholes

and none of them install bells anymore to warn you before they speed through a traffic sign and try to install a bike lane up your ass

MindStalker: If they were motorcyclist doing the same thing even if they were going just as slow you'd patiently wait untill you could saftly pass them.

Um... No.

I farking hate cyclists. Especially since my route to the train goes along the same path as a couple of intense, wear-spandex-to-ride-to-train-station, arseholes. They never stop at stoplights, so I'm stuck right behind them for miles due to lack of space and traffic, never signal... The list goes on. If I can, I will give a cyclist the utmost respect--I move into the other lane, try not to ride up their ass, but my patience has been quickly wearing out.

AcneVulgaris: I used to live on a winding canyon road that had "share the road" signs. When I had my Z28, I would often hit 85mph on that road (speed limit was 25... safe speed was about 40). Out of consideration for my fellow cyclists (yes, some people drive AND ride), I made some stickers that said "Fear" and used them to cover up the "Share" on the "Share the Road" signs.

When they peeled them off, I made some more, and a "25 points each" sticker to go on the upper sign next to the little cyclist glyph. Every time I'd see one peeling off the stickers I'd honk the horn, wave, and downshift to redline the engine.

I'm still amazed I never killed one. Had some close calls riding on that road... riding AND driving.

Why yes, I AM a colossal asshole! Thanks for asking! I'm not the only one out there, so everybody be polite and careful, FFS.... otherwise you may be turning normal people into dangerous assoles.

Knew that the moment you mentioned driving a z28.

BrynnMacFlynn: I farking hate cyclists. Especially since my route to the train goes along the same path as a couple of intense, wear-spandex-to-ride-to-train-station, arseholes. They never stop at stoplights, so I'm stuck right behind them for miles due to lack of space and traffic, never signal... The list goes on. If I can, I will give a cyclist the utmost respect--I move into the other lane, try not to ride up their ass, but my patience has been quickly wearing out.

Big tough 'cyclist' fantasy:



Small wimpy bike rider reality:

tommydee: MindStalker: If they were motorcyclist doing the same thing even if they were going just as slow you'd patiently wait untill you could saftly pass them.

Um... No.

Seriously. If it were a motorcyclist doing that, they would actually get ticketed for creating a road hazard.

Uchiha_Cycliste: Right now I'm working on 3 days of LSD to recover from this weeks riding. I've found an aweseom route through atherton, then across Stanfurd then over towards moffet field and the trail by 237.

Saturday was Old La honda to La honda to Pescadero creek to hwy 1 to santa cruz. (3:00/60mi/3800')+ the last 25 miles + 800' took me an hour.

sunday full rest.
monday: up hwy 9, down hwy 9, san tomas expressway. 50 miles, 3500' 3:05.
Tuesday : old la honda, 35, 9, san tomas. (48 miles, 3 hrs, 3500')
feels good man.

I doubt that you could be any more of what I think that you are.

+1

fireclown: Faust_Motel: On a bike, I'm on the side of "follow all the rules, taking the lane is legal when it is unsafe to ride all the way to the right, and fark any driver who thinks they know better than me when to take the lane."

Ah. The music video was sort of hard on the sarcasm meter. In that case, I'm pretty much on your side.

Yeah, I cringe at the red-light running and other bad stuff, but it's a funny video. I've given up on the whole "every cyclist represents all cyclists" thing and just focus on doing what I do. Lightening up goes a long way, I've found.

UtileDysfunktion: So long as we're venting... RUNNERS! IN THE ROAD!

Last fall I needed to go to the next town over. It was getting dark, streetlights were on, and it was raining. Quickest route was this 4-lane road (2 each direction) that I was reluctant to take as it's old and the lanes are <i>really</i> narrow and there are curbs, no shoulder. I decided to take a chance since the alternative would have taken me miles out to the way.

So I'm heading down this road, staying in the right lane and going less than the posted speed (remember: dark, raining, no streetlights in this section) and I think I see movement in front of me. I focus my attention on where I thought I saw the movement and HOLY CRAP THERE'S A GUY IN THE ROADWAY! So I swing over into the left lane and just miss the guy. He was out for a run, in the worst possible place, dressed all in dark blue or black from head to toe including gloves (did I mention it was dark and raining).

If there was somewhere I could have pulled over I would have gotten out the car, chased the guy down, and screamed at him for being such an utter farktard.

On my drive to work, there's frequently a woman running out in the road, right next to the farking sidewalk. Which is always unoccupied. WTF is that shiat?

jaytkay: Here, let me save you all a lot of time by posting your sentiments for you.

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I'll remember that if I ever see you riding your bike, and I'll speed up.

Uchiha_Cycliste: medius: farking assholes

and none of them install bells anymore to warn you before they speed through a traffic sign and try to install a bike lane up your ass

I have the incredibell, it's under my stem to make room for Garmin. it's my ped warning system

quiet, you

i've got more razor blades where the last batch came from

/it's new york. everybody here has a death wish (bikers, drivers, pedoestrians, horsecopsuckers)

I'm happier when they are on the road instead of sidewalks and "paths" they mistake for "bike paths."

If they inconvenience me in the car, no big deal; I'm comfy, listening to the radio and Gordie Jr. is safe in the car seat.

When I'm on sidewalks or "paths" (Cherry Creek Trail, Douglas Co, Colorado I'm looking at you...) they go whipping by at high velocity; its farkin' dangerous. I take my 3 year old down to the playground and we gotta walk on the Trail for about 200 yards; even though the rules state they will "yield to equestrians, runners and hikers. Keep your bike under control and at safe speed" they still act pissy towards pedestrians with the gall to walk on "their" trail, even when we're way off to the right. Gotta keep my head on swivel.

too_amuzed: AcneVulgaris: I used to live on a winding canyon road that had "share the road" signs. When I had my Z28, I would often hit 85mph on that road (speed limit was 25... safe speed was about 40). Out of consideration for my fellow cyclists (yes, some people drive AND ride), I made some stickers that said "Fear" and used them to cover up the "Share" on the "Share the Road" signs.

When they peeled them off, I made some more, and a "25 points each" sticker to go on the upper sign next to the little cyclist glyph. Every time I'd see one peeling off the stickers I'd honk the horn, wave, and downshift to redline the engine.

I'm still amazed I never killed one. Had some close calls riding on that road... riding AND driving.

Why yes, I AM a colossal asshole! Thanks for asking! I'm not the only one out there, so everybody be polite and careful, FFS.... otherwise you may be turning normal people into dangerous assoles.

Knew that the moment you mentioned driving a z28.

Then you began an erotic fantasy about my tiny penis.

post your bike thread

As a driver I have zero problem with cyclist that use common sense. However one CSB I will never forget.......

I was about 16 at the time....I was driving in the left northbound lane of a four lane (divided by a turn lane)45 MPH road as I pass a bright spandex wearing ultra douche looking cyclist riding in the middle of the right lane while approaching a traffic light. I pull into the left turn lane and the cyclist rides onto the crosswalk to turn left and goes in front of me causing me to have to slam on the breaks. I don`t know how I missed him but he didn't even look. That lesson taught me just about everything I needed to know about these people.


For repeat offenders a fountain drink (44oz and up) to the face while on the go can make your point for you.

baka-san: AcneVulgaris: Why yes, I AM a colossal asshole!

We got that part at Z28

Says the guy that dresses up like a space homo from planet spandex before going out to ride.

Uchiha_Cycliste: I'm warning you, for every razor blade I find I'm spiking your morning coffee with pure ehtanol

but i'm on the wagon!

could you be a pal and make it cocaine or heroin instead?

Fat-D: For repeat offenders a fountain drink (44oz and up) to the face while on the go can make your point for you.

You should make it even better by throwing a gallon can of Crisco or a sleep apnea machine at them.

AcneVulgaris: space homo from planet spandex

that's funny I don't care who you are

paygun: AcneVulgaris: space homo from planet spandex

that's funny I don't care who you are

that's the truthiest thing said in this thread.

SuperChuck: UtileDysfunktion: So long as we're venting... RUNNERS! IN THE ROAD!

Last fall I needed to go to the next town over. It was getting dark, streetlights were on, and it was raining. Quickest route was this 4-lane road (2 each direction) that I was reluctant to take as it's old and the lanes are <i>really</i> narrow and there are curbs, no shoulder. I decided to take a chance since the alternative would have taken me miles out to the way.

So I'm heading down this road, staying in the right lane and going less than the posted speed (remember: dark, raining, no streetlights in this section) and I think I see movement in front of me. I focus my attention on where I thought I saw the movement and HOLY CRAP THERE'S A GUY IN THE ROADWAY! So I swing over into the left lane and just miss the guy. He was out for a run, in the worst possible place, dressed all in dark blue or black from head to toe including gloves (did I mention it was dark and raining).

If there was somewhere I could have pulled over I would have gotten out the car, chased the guy down, and screamed at him for being such an utter farktard.

On my drive to work, there's frequently a woman running out in the road, right next to the farking sidewalk. Which is always unoccupied. WTF is that shiat?

Yeah, I have to deal with those people, too. I suppose their reasoning is that there MIGHT be someone walking their dog on the sidewalk and they could have the dog go after them or at least get tangled in the leash.

Just last week I went to back out of my driveway. Checked for cars parked across the street, checked the sidewalk in either direction, check to make sure the toddler from next door playing in the front yard wasn't going to run behind my car, checked for traffic in either direction, THEN started slowly backing out only to discover a young couple walking side by side IN THE STREET, waiting for me to back out. I have to admit, I did not think of looking for people strolling in the street.

paygun: AcneVulgaris: space homo from planet spandex

that's funny I don't care who you are

t3knomanser: I'm a driver's worst nightmare: a cyclist that uses a lane, signals turns, and obeys traffic signals.

MWAHAHAHAHA.

A mythical creature similar to Santa Claus, the Tooth Fairy, and the Easter Bunny.

gblive: t3knomanser: I'm a driver's worst nightmare: a cyclist that uses a lane, signals turns, and obeys traffic signals.

MWAHAHAHAHA.

A mythical creature similar to Santa Claus, the Tooth Fairy, and the Easter Bunny.

Or Jesus

Uchiha_Cycliste: As always if you ever have any questions about bikes, training, wrenching,

Can I use Deore combo shifter/levers with Avid BB7 brakes?

paygun: Fat-D: For repeat offenders a fountain drink (44oz and up) to the face while on the go can make your point for you.

You should make it even better by throwing a gallon can of Crisco or a sleep apnea machine at them.

I said fountain drinks because I have actually done it...shouldn't mention canned green beans and full pop cans.

I have skimmed through this thread quickly enough that my preconceived notions about cyclists have not been challenged.

My immunity probably stems from the fact that I live close to a "mixed use" bike trail in the Seattle area.

You might suspect that cyclists, who are so concerned that they receive fair treatment on the road (where they are the slower-moving and more vulnerable population), would be extra courteous and considerate on a mixed use cyclist/pedestrian/equestrian trail. I invite you to the Seattle area to try our trails out to confirm or disconfirm that hypothesis.

/I farking hate Seattle cyclists.

Three and four abreast riders taking up the entire lane is when I lose it. Single file on the right hand side. Know your place.

I have no beef with most cyclists and treat them with respect. I'll pass when I can, I try to give them extra room, and I don't make gestures. It's cool 99% of the time.

But once in a while, you get that guy who is riding his bike during rush hour on the busiest street in the city, and it creates all kinds of headaches. Yes, I know you're allowed to be there, but that's just a Grade-A asshole move. There are a lot of alternative streets that have less traffic and go to the same place, and well, since you are doing it for exercise after all, you really shouldn't object to an extra block or two of riding distance. So please think of your fellow "motorists" and realize that when you are clogging 50% of the main artery into downtown, sooner or later someone is gonna get sick of your shiat after waiting in a traffic jam that YOU caused with your righteous ride to work.

It's almost like you're asking for it just to prove a point. Not so sure that's a smart idea against 4000 pounds of steel at 35-40 MPH.

This thread would not be complete without re-posting this...

'I plowed through... and blammo': Cyclist accused of KILLING 71-year-old after brazenly telling internet forum how he ran him over.

- Chris Bucchere defended himself online after fatal accident
- Ended forum post by saying his cycle helmet 'died in heroic fashion'

The main problem cyclists have is the fact that they think they won't get hurt on the road. I used to be a bike messenger, and the first rule I had for myself was anything on the road could potentially kill me. Respect cars, because they can squish you, respect pedestrians because you could easily end up just as hurt, if not more hurt if you hit them.

It's really not hard, but if a car does push my boundaries, my kryptonite u-lock easily separates rear view mirrors from the side of your car.

Uchiha_Cycliste: Right now I'm working on 3 days of LSD to recover from this weeks riding. I've found an aweseom route through atherton, then across Stanfurd then over towards moffet field and the trail by 237.

Saturday was Old La honda to La honda to Pescadero creek to hwy 1 to santa cruz. (3:00/60mi/3800')+ the last 25 miles + 800' took me an hour.

sunday full rest.
monday: up hwy 9, down hwy 9, san tomas expressway. 50 miles, 3500' 3:05.
Tuesday : old la honda, 35, 9, san tomas. (48 miles, 3 hrs, 3500')
feels good man.

Those sound like beautiful but dangerous routes.