alwaysjaded: Strategeryz0r:


Pics for those who haven't seen these women would be appreciated :P

Sure. Why not....

Doreah

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Margaery

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Osha (on the left: from the show. the other her cleaned up)

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Melisandre

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Daeny

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Sansa

Uh. HELL NO!!!

Cersei

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Shea

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Yara

( I actually like her "I'll drink your ass under the table and you're gonna have to work to get in these pants" look.)

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Brienne feels left out

Why can't people be content with censoring themselves? Why must there always be people that force censorship on others???

Strategeryz0r: Le Bomb Suprize: All this talk about gratuitous sex and double standards and still no ranking of GoT women by hotness? I'll get the fapping list started:

Doreah - The little vixen from Lysene.
Margaery - Playa!
Osha - Clean her up and send her to my room.
Melisandre - Would her necklace glow if she swallowed?
Daeny - Qarth version, not "in dire need of chapstick" version.
Sansa - DISCLAIMER: only if she is 18+
Cersei - Not absolutely sure I'd awake the next morning.
Shea, Ros, Yara - sharp knees, gym in 26 minutes etc.

Pics for those who haven't seen these women would be appreciated :P

Daeny easily shot to the top of the list when I saw the actress with her (natural) dark hair - good lord that women is gorgeous.

alwaysjaded
Osha (on the left: from the show. the other her cleaned up)

For possible "where have I seen her before"-folks:
she also played Nymphodora Tonks in the Harry Potter movies.
One of the few females on the show who hasn't (yet?) taken her clothes off, if I'm not mistaken.

/also, Charles Dance as Tywin Lannister just shows why he, despite being blond, totally worked as Havelock Vetinari in Sky's adaption of "Going Postal"

DontMakeMeComeBackThere: Strategeryz0r: Le Bomb Suprize: All this talk about gratuitous sex and double standards and still no ranking of GoT women by hotness? I'll get the fapping list started:

Doreah - The little vixen from Lysene.
Margaery - Playa!
Osha - Clean her up and send her to my room.
Melisandre - Would her necklace glow if she swallowed?
Daeny - Qarth version, not "in dire need of chapstick" version.
Sansa - DISCLAIMER: only if she is 18+
Cersei - Not absolutely sure I'd awake the next morning.
Shea, Ros, Yara - sharp knees, gym in 26 minutes etc.

Pics for those who haven't seen these women would be appreciated :P

Daeny easily shot to the top of the list when I saw the actress with her (natural) dark hair - good lord that women is gorgeous.

I dunno.. I would have to evaluate the natural dark hair picture. The one posted on the previous page just isn't doing it for me. Something about her face just seems off to me. Not that I would say no in the real world, but if I'm going off pictures and rating them, she's just meh to me.

I'd be fine with less sex it got me one battle that didn't appear occur off camera.

alwaysjaded: I'm actually really surprised I haven't been hearing a shiatload of complaining about her not being THAT ugly. I imagined her a whole lot uglier in the books

I think she looks suitably strange and masculine to make most people happy with the casting. The way they've got her set up she looks pretty dudely.

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DontMakeMeComeBackThere: Daeny easily shot to the top of the list when I saw the actress with her (natural) dark hair - good lord that women is gorgeous.

Same with Cersei

300 was on TV here a few months ago; if I'm not mistaken, Cersei isn't only biatch-regent of Westeros, but also queen of Spartaaaaaa.

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DontMakeMeComeBackThere: Daeny easily shot to the top of the list when I saw the actress with her (natural) dark hair - good lord that women is gorgeous.

Same with Cersei

300 was on TV here a few months ago; if I'm not mistaken, Cersei isn't only biatch-regent of Westeros, but also queen of Spartaaaaaa.

I thought the queen of Sparta was also Sarah Connor? Are you saying Cersei is Sarah Connor?

Cuz I would travel back in time with her any day....

So, I should start watching this, then? Never considered it until this thread :)

alwaysjaded: Tax Boy:

Brienne feels left out

I'm actually really surprised I haven't been hearing a shiatload of complaining about her not being THAT ugly. I imagined her a whole lot uglier in the books. Of course, I haven't heard too much biatching either about Rorge having his nose. Maybe the nerds are saving their rage for The Avengers?

Wait until Tyrion is injured. It'll be a little line on his face.

The author has obviously never read the books. The scenes all have meaning and convey information.

The translation to video has made the meanings less clear as everything is so condensed but it is there.

Gratuitous sex has been increasing on all of HBO's shows, and frankly, it gets boring after a while. It slows the pacing of the narrative down and I just end up fast-forwarding.

That said, there was nothing gratuitous about Joffrey's threesome with the prostitutes. The scene advanced the narrative by showing just how freaking depraved he is.

tallguywithglasseson: qorkfiend: In the show they're taking a much different route with the relationship between Melisandre and Stannis; there's lots of room to get creative there.

Stannis fathered Shadowstannis in the book, too.

I don't think so, but even if he did, it wasn't as...gratuitous.

Phil Moskowitz: alwaysjaded: Tax Boy:

Brienne feels left out

I'm actually really surprised I haven't been hearing a shiatload of complaining about her not being THAT ugly. I imagined her a whole lot uglier in the books. Of course, I haven't heard too much biatching either about Rorge having his nose. Maybe the nerds are saving their rage for The Avengers?

Wait until Tyrion is injured. It'll be a little line on his face.

And his love interest midget will be played by Sarah Michelle Geller walking on her knees.

qorkfiend: tallguywithglasseson: qorkfiend: In the show they're taking a much different route with the relationship between Melisandre and Stannis; there's lots of room to get creative there.

Stannis fathered Shadowstannis in the book, too.

I don't think so, but even if he did, it wasn't as...gratuitous.

It was never explicitly said, but it has been implied (much like Loras and Renly's relationship).

alwaysjaded
Shea

While I'm at it:
if someone wants to see a bit more of that actress, she's done a few porn movies; that caused quite some trouble a few years ago:
she was nominated for and had won the biggest German movie awards for her breakthrough role when Germany's biggest toilet paper Bild managed to find out about her porno past and milked it.

Doogled: It was never explicitly said, but it has been implied (much like Loras and Renly's relationship).

its made clear that she channels some sort of power from stannis to create the shadow child, and its stated she "births" it... so really, its made clear what happens. she births a shadow spawn that she created with some of stannis's life force. In the book you can leave it at that and the audience gets it. In a TV show, you have to have that scene because otherwise the audience isn't going to make the connection

Digitalstrange: Rincewind53: Also, the "Women aren't as visual" thing has been pretty clearly debunked for years. Go ask the TFettes if they don't enjoy looking at attractive men.

See any point you thought you made was lost right here.

Sure, they enjoy seeing properly sculpted, groomed and bronzed male physiques, but e-mail a pic of your junk to a random farkette and I guarantee their reaction would be different than the one you would have if a random farkette texted you a pic of their coochie.

Less visual doesn't mean they get no satisfaction from looking, just that it is nowhere near the same level that men get.

Um, the girls you see on tv showing their goods are generally "properly sculpted, groomed, and bronzed female physiques" or whatever the female equivalent of ideal is.

I'm pretty sure you wouldn't want pics of just any farkette - just the thin, young, attractive ones. I highly doubt you want pics of some obese woman's furry roast beef sandwich or sagging flapjacks. You might look, but you would then cry for the eye bleach.

Women are just comfortable seeing women naked because they're used to it. If men were shown naked on tv and in movies as much as women were, they'd be just as comfortable with male nudity. I think that men sending pics of their junk to women on the internet are seen as aggressive and perverted and it has little to do with whether the women want to see wang or not.

Also men being naked in comedies is not the same as women being naked in dramas. When women are shown naked it's usually placing emphasis on their sexuality - sexualizing them. When men are shown naked it's usually for comedy purposes and meant to turn off the audience. This isn't because the male body is a turn off, but it's the way in which it's being used that it reinforces this idea that it's extreme to show men naked and it's not sexy at all - which isn't true to those who are actually attracted to men.

I think it actually would do all men a favor if more men were shown naked in movies because it will get women more comfortable with sexuality and make male nudity feel less imposing to those who do feel that way. If we sexualize male nudity, there will probably be more women out there wanting more sex more frequently - at least that's my theory.

Anyway, I'm all for equal opportunity nudity on tv. While I find some of the scenes on GoT a bit gratuitous, I still don't mind it. It's part of the appeal of watching the show. It's like getting caramel on an already delicious sundae.

alwaysjaded: Strategeryz0r:

I dunno.. I would have to evaluate the natural dark hair picture. The one posted on the previous page just isn't doing it for me. Something about her face just seems off to me. Not that I would say no in the real world, but if I'm going off pictures and rating them, she's just meh to me.

Better. But her cheekbones be sharp, and her facial expression is exactly the same across 2 pics.

2/10 would not bang. I stand by my original 3 choices.

I've been reading the books and they're getting pornier and pornier. I think Martin is turning into another Heinlein. That man desparately needs to get laid.

Serial: I'm willing to bet that if HBO cut all the brothel scenes, all the people complaining about them would turn around and say "Where do whores go?"

Your comment is a little bit short.

Here is a novel idea: Perhaps you can wander around aimlessly for a time before you figure out where you want to go from there.

/your sense of humor seems impish

alwaysjaded: theorellior:

I never thought she was fugly, just perhaps mannish and so completely unlike the other court women that everyone called her "ugly" because they couldn't wrap their heads around her wanting to be a knight.

I had imagined her as a straw haired, high school cafeteria worker with missing teeth so it's just a personal issue. Stannis looks nothing like I had imagined him either. But not one change has made me enjoy the show any less. It is in great hands.

highendmighty: So, I should start watching this, then? Never considered it until this thread :)

Everyone I've loaned Season 1 to, I've told them "Watch 2 episodes. If you don't like it, then it's not your kinda show." So far, everyone brings it back asking if I have Season 2. Give it a shot.

RIght on. I just got HBO this month. I've got OnDemand, so I will see if Season 1 is on there. I've seen Girls and Veep, and kinda just gave up on HBO series after a few episodes of those. (No offense to Girls and Veep fans.)

highendmighty: I've seen Girls

if you're not a sexually frustrated, neurotic white woman from an upper middle class background living above your actual means in NYC between the ages of 20-30 relying on the financial support of your parents who paid to send you to a top rated liberal arts college and only relating to other women of that precise background OR a middle aged female writer for the new yorker, then you're not the intended audience for "Girls" and you probably wont like it.

tlchwi02: Doogled: It was never explicitly said, but it has been implied (much like Loras and Renly's relationship).

its made clear that she channels some sort of power from stannis to create the shadow child, and its stated she "births" it... so really, its made clear what happens. she births a shadow spawn that she created with some of stannis's life force. In the book you can leave it at that and the audience gets it. In a TV show, you have to have that scene because otherwise the audience isn't going to make the connection

I don't even know if she does that. There's that scene with the king's blood and the leeches and the fire; I had assumed that's where it came from. In any case, I never got from the books that there was any sort of sexual relationship going on there.

alwaysjaded: Strategeryz0r:

Better. But her cheekbones be sharp, and her facial expression is exactly the same across 2 pics.

2/10 would not bang. I stand by my original 3 choices.

To each his own. My personal favorite is Natalie Dormer.

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Haha! Excellent comparison!

alwaysjaded: theorellior:

I never thought she was fugly, just perhaps mannish and so completely unlike the other court women that everyone called her "ugly" because they couldn't wrap their heads around her wanting to be a knight.

I had imagined her as a straw haired, high school cafeteria worker with missing teeth so it's just a personal issue. Stannis looks nothing like I had imagined him either. But not one change has made me enjoy the show any less. It is in great hands.

highendmighty: So, I should start watching this, then? Never considered it until this thread :)

Everyone I've loaned Season 1 to, I've told them "Watch 2 episodes. If you don't like it, then it's not your kinda show." So far, everyone brings it back asking if I have Season 2. Give it a shot.

My girlfriend needed two episodes and several family trees, but now she's hooked.

qorkfiend: In any case, I never got from the books that there was any sort of sexual relationship going on there.

well i think the reason is because its not really a sexual relationship. The relationship is about power and salvation and worship and all that. the sex is a tool that is needed by not enjoyed/desired to make the magic work.

and obviously martin is overseeing it, so he ok'd the sex. I personally always got the impression that sex was how she was "taking" stannis's contribution because the imagery evoked when she unleashed it was birth-ish and they're always going on as how she has become stannis's "real" queen (especially in Dance)

Is there any sex that isn't gratuitous?

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Fist. Angry God.

hehe she always has that smirk on her face.

Always? We'll see about that....

Smirking inhibits the gag reflex. So she probably does always have that smirk on her face.

/giggity

tlchwi02: alwaysjaded: I'm actually really surprised I haven't been hearing a shiatload of complaining about her not being THAT ugly. I imagined her a whole lot uglier in the books

I think she looks suitably strange and masculine to make most people happy with the casting. The way they've got her set up she looks pretty dudely.

For myself I've just let it go. Tyrion isn't as deformed, doesn't have the scraggly beard. the Hound isn't grossly burnt. etc etc - it's TV they pretty things up. She looks pretty butch and is tall, it works well enough

AliceBToklasLives: Is there any sex that isn't gratuitous?

Sadly, James Bond. Damn them and their infernal cut aways. I've always maintained that the bond franchise could do with a lot of gratuitous sex.

Digitalstrange: and is tall, it works well enough

the tallness part particularly works. compared to all the men around her, her size makes her look even more freakish.

the pictures of her where she's the only one in them don't do them credit. its like professional athletes, when you see them on the field you don't think they look odd, but then you stick them next to a nromal "man on the street" and you realize their 6 foot 7 and built like a truck

alwaysjaded
The Voice of Doom: she's done a few porn movies;

TO THE GOOGLE MOBILE!!!!

Just do a search for her on xvideos. (NSFW).
As I said, it was a pretty big scandal (think Oscar-winning newbie actress is found out to have been in "Backdoor Sluts" 1 through 9), so it's no surprise that lots of her old shiat got uploaded with her real name attached to it.