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2012-05-03 07:20:11 PM
i806.photobucket.com

Animal dislikes speed cameras too.
 
2012-05-03 07:25:31 PM
In Italy the rules are somewhat like this: (meaning my memory may be suffering a few gaps)

14-16 y/o 50cc
16-17 y/o 125cc
18 Cars and 125cc+

Maybe the EU standardized? If this kid modded his to 125cc with a Malossi kit...zip zip
 
2012-05-03 07:25:36 PM

iron de havilland: Norfolking Chance: Some one in Southampton was doing the same thing and kept blasting through a front facing camara at 100mph in a 30 and giving the finger. It pissed off the coppers so much the took a magnifying glass to the pictures and noticed a couple of fairing bolts missing. They then visited every green ZXR600 owner in the area to check for the missing bolts. Found the bike and then the leathers and helmet (both mad race rep colours) and the rider. The judge was not ammused.

shiat. My ZX-6R is missing a couple of fairing bolts. And it's green.

Guess I'm a suspect O_O

I don't have a power-ranger suit however.

/moral of the story
//don't take the piss and the coppers will let it slide.

Had my second ever run-in with the filth a couple of weeks ago. Picking my ma up from the airport. All of the roads around the airport are double yellows, but one of them is a dead end, quite near the airport. I'd waited their the previous week and had no issues.

So, I'm sitting in my car, reading the paper and listening to comedy on radio 4 (Alex Horne's the Horne Section - most amusing) and a police Range Rover rolls up behind me.

I doffed my cap, tugged my forelock and pretended that I respected him - he gave me the option of paying for airport parking, or getting a £30 fine.

So I made my apologies, then drove a mile or so north, to an industrial estate with no parking restrictions, to wait for my mother's flight to land.

/Could have easily talked myself into a fine, but feigning respect works well on little Hitlers.


So you're unhappy because you were parked in a no parking zone and got asked to move? Oh the humanity.
 
2012-05-03 07:31:18 PM

cowgirl toffee: This is funny cause I was caught by a speed camera yesterday.

*breaking down, crying...*


I flash the camera and, for some reason never get a ticket.
 
2012-05-03 07:35:02 PM

Winterssnowykiss: cowgirl toffee: This is funny cause I was caught by a speed camera yesterday.

*breaking down, crying...*

I flash the camera and, for some reason never get a ticket.


*taking notes*
....yes, go on...
 
2012-05-03 07:43:28 PM

change1211: So you're unhappy because you were parked in a no parking zone and got asked to move? Oh the humanity.


Yes, I was. Because there was no reason for there to be no parking in that area. There was no traffic, commerce or business happening there.

I was not obstructing anything. Yet, the city council decreed that parking there is illegal. Because they have their fingers in the companies running the local car parks.

Are you happy with government agents asking you to move along, when you're doing nothing that causes anyone any harm?

/I thought Americans liked freedom.
 
2012-05-03 07:49:38 PM

YouPeopleAreCrazy: I am waiter hear me roar: My buddies and I regularly run roads between Philadelphia and DC at over 170mph, so I'm really getting a kick...

Dickweed. Go to the track.


Asshole. I do, thanks.
Jerkoff. I also enjoy breaking the rules now and then.
Poopie-head. You'll get over it.

Am I doing it right?
 
2012-05-03 07:55:24 PM

I am waiter hear me roar: YouPeopleAreCrazy: I am waiter hear me roar: My buddies and I regularly run roads between Philadelphia and DC at over 170mph, so I'm really getting a kick...

Dickweed. Go to the track.

Asshole. I do, thanks.
Jerkoff. I also enjoy breaking the rules now and then.
Poopie-head. You'll get over it.

Am I doing it right?


If by "it" you mean giving the rest of us sane bikers a bad name by proxy, then yes.
 
2012-05-03 07:59:41 PM

lucksi: cgraves67:

I wonder what constitutes illegal modifications to a bike in Germany. Was it an air pollution issue? Noise? Do they actually regulate power or require a licensed mechanic to sign off on modifications?

Everything that is not in your papers is illegal unless certified by the technical inspection agency. This goes for all road going vehicles/bikes.

As I am driving a ricer (hey, I was young once), my car papers explicitly state what spoilers I have, what tires I'm allowed to have on and so on. I needed a certification for alloys, for different shocks and so on and so forth. You can't even throw in a different air filter without it having a certification. Well, you can, but if you get caught...

And crap like underfloor lighting and even those stupid LEDs in the windscreenwasher nozzles are illegal.

And you have mandatory inspections every two years and emmision checks and and and.

Sounds neat?


They are wilfully killing any sense of personal expression, technical modification or FUN. And I say that as a motorcyclist with 49 years of riding and road racing experience.

Bureaucrats. They love to smother anything they themselves, in all their infinite wisdom, have not approved. All in the name of safety. Protection. Take care of the children. Standardize society. More regulations. Only the manufacturer is allowed to play.

One idiot was even trying to legislate seat belts for motorcycles. Actually they'd LOVE to outlaw motorcycles totally but then they'd have to call in the National Guard to protect them, tee hee.

And the Euro-crats are probably the absolute worst. Check out the fruit import regulations. Nuts. More and more all the time.

Fun to watch it collapse.
 
2012-05-03 08:05:49 PM

Dead for Tax Reasons: Mock26: Dead for Tax Reasons: hit with a fine of €160 euros

wow, that's like over $200 dollars

but i guess $dollars aren't worth what they used to be

x 26.

How much is that in €dollars or $euros though?


Not much, but the points and ban will ensure he cannot legally drive for over two years and the points alone will require a psychological evaluation before he can get his license back again, and with 70+ points he might never get it back.
 
2012-05-03 08:07:26 PM

iron de havilland: change1211: So you're unhappy because you were parked in a no parking zone and got asked to move? Oh the humanity.

Yes, I was. Because there was no reason for there to be no parking in that area. There was no traffic, commerce or business happening there.

I was not obstructing anything. Yet, the city council decreed that parking there is illegal. Because they have their fingers in the companies running the local car parks.

Are you happy with government agents asking you to move along, when you're doing nothing that causes anyone any harm?

/I thought Americans liked freedom.


There is no reason for you to be parking there because the city council decided there was no parking. Merely because you decided to park there for your convenience doesn't negate the fact that, for reasons unknown to you, there might well be a valid reason for you not to park there.

HOWEVER, the correct thing to do is to park there and remain in your vehicle, and when politely asked to move along, you politely move along.

I can tell you, for instance, that one reason fire lanes are so long is that should there be a fire, there needs to be extra room for hoses, equipment, personnel, etc., and if there is NOT a fire, there needs to be room for the truck to turn around to exit safely. That's part of the reason why your "dead end" is still a no-parking zone: To stop people from deciding What the hell, there's no businesses down there, why can't I just park here anyway? Well, it's partially because if they needed to put emergency equipment in the area and some stupid farker had left their car there, it would be in the way. Yes, I've actually seen that happen. (Your particular zone may not have been a fire zone, I realize, I'm just making a point)

So long as everyone can be courteous about things, there shouldn't be a problem, It's when fools decide they must yell at the public they serve or the cops telling them to move along that everything falls into the sewer.
 
2012-05-03 08:11:21 PM
125cc, ~40 bhp, close to 125 mph / 200 km.h with the small sprocket on the rear axle ....

www.pixtus.com

/ sample photo, but I should have mine running again in a couple of weeks :)
 
2012-05-03 08:23:36 PM

CtrlAltDestroy: I am waiter hear me roar: YouPeopleAreCrazy: I am waiter hear me roar: My buddies and I regularly run roads between Philadelphia and DC at over 170mph, so I'm really getting a kick...

Dickweed. Go to the track.

Asshole. I do, thanks.
Jerkoff. I also enjoy breaking the rules now and then.
Poopie-head. You'll get over it.

Am I doing it right?

If by "it" you mean giving the rest of us sane bikers a bad name by proxy, then yes.


No, I meant the childish name calling.

Beleive me, it doesn't matter what I say or do, people in cars are never going to give a shiat about whether you live or die. You are just not a person to most of them when you're on a bike.

I was a "sane" rider for almost two decades. Not a day went by when some asshole in a BMW or some self-important soccer mom didn't come close to killing me. And I ride 300+ days a year.

So fark their rules. I'm sick of putting myself at their mercy. I ride the way I want, and if the cops want to arrest me for it, they're welcome to try. I'm not going to pussyfoot around so that little pansies with 3 tons of steel wrapped around them can feel safer.
 
2012-05-03 08:28:27 PM

YouPeopleAreCrazy: TheGreatGazoo: So if I put a K&N air filter on my car it is illegal in Germany unless I fill out some paperwork?

The Germans are insane about vehicle inspections. I failed once because my windshield squirter was empty. Not broken, just empty.
This was at the gas station, and the guy would not give me the two minutes to go inside, buy a bottle of juice and fill it up. No...he had to fail me, and then I could fill it up and get it reinspected.


The problem with the 1st largest country is that we have too many regulations, unlike, say, the 5th largest country.

/this is a priceless German story, right up there with paying the certificates for owning a TV at the Post Office.
 
2012-05-03 08:33:03 PM

antidisestablishmentarianism: When I saw the soccer field shot on the right I was very happy I took German in High School


I somehow doubt that that was in your German textbook.
 
2012-05-03 08:33:36 PM

I am waiter hear me roar: No, I meant the childish name calling.

Beleive me, it doesn't matter what I say or do, people in cars are never going to give a shiat about whether you live or die. You are just not a person to most of them when you're on a bike.

I was a "sane" rider for almost two decades. Not a day went by when some asshole in a BMW or some self-important soccer mom didn't come close to killing me. And I ride 300+ days a year.

So fark their rules. I'm sick of putting myself at their mercy. I ride the way I want, and if the cops want to arrest me for it, they're welcome to try. I'm not going to pussyfoot around so that little pansies with 3 tons of steel wrapped around them can feel safer.


So, because you're sick of people not caring enough about you you plan to piss them off further, make them care even less, and in the process coerce them to treat me the same way out of spite for you?

People like you are the reason people like me get a bad rap.
 
2012-05-03 08:35:03 PM

iron de havilland: change1211: So you're unhappy because you were parked in a no parking zone and got asked to move? Oh the humanity.

Yes, I was. Because there was no reason for there to be no parking in that area. There was no traffic, commerce or business happening there.

I was not obstructing anything. Yet, the city council decreed that parking there is illegal. Because they have their fingers in the companies running the local car parks.

Are you happy with government agents asking you to move along, when you're doing nothing that causes anyone any harm?

/I thought Americans liked freedom.


Sorry, but that is not how the law works. If you disagree with that area being no-parking then petition the city to change it and/or vote for someone who will work to change it.

/I do not think that freedom means what you think it means.
//Freedom != being able to do whatever the hell you want
 
2012-05-03 08:36:48 PM

Dead for Tax Reasons: hit with a fine of €160 euros

wow, that's like over $200 dollars

but i guess $dollars aren't worth what they used to be


For each of his 26 offenses.
€4160 = $5500
pocket change for a 17 year old German, you know, because of socialism and all.
 
2012-05-03 08:50:14 PM

I am waiter hear me roar: No, I meant the childish name calling.


Routinely doing 170mph on the public road is childish.
 
2012-05-03 08:50:52 PM

wildcardjack: I don't know how the German courts work, but in the USA I'd have to demand proof that each photo was of the same person and bike.

Assuming, they have a picture showing the license plate as well, it's on the vehicle's registered owner to either pay up, or provide proof someone else was riding that bike.

And 125cc? One of those made in china bikes I keep seeing ads for? He got busted for driving the sort of speed I consider annoyingly slow.

Right! A 125cc Aprilia will easily go 100+ mph and TFA said that he modified the bike, so yeah, moped speed.
 
2012-05-03 08:51:49 PM

I am waiter hear me roar: Beleive me, it doesn't matter what I say or do, people in cars are never going to give a shiat about whether you live or die. You are just not a person to most of them when you're on a bike.


And yes, I used to ride. So fark your generalizations.
 
2012-05-03 08:52:07 PM

ParaHandy: 125cc, ~40 bhp, close to 125 mph / 200 km.h with the small sprocket on the rear axle ....

[www.pixtus.com image 640x425]

/ sample photo, but I should have mine running again in a couple of weeks :)


Just looking at that makes my neck start to hurt...
 
2012-05-03 08:59:40 PM

I am waiter hear me roar: My buddies and I regularly run roads between Philadelphia and DC at over 170mph, so I'm really getting a kick...


That's awesome...until you get caught or kill someone. Then they'll throw the book at you.
See, in Germany, you go on the Autobahn and go 170mph, before you shift into 3rd gear, and you can pass the cops, and don't have to worry about The Man trying to get you (unless you try to pull that stunt in an inner city tunnel, of course).
Ahhh Freiheit!
 
2012-05-03 09:07:30 PM

Mock26: iron de havilland: change1211: So you're unhappy because you were parked in a no parking zone and got asked to move? Oh the humanity.

Yes, I was. Because there was no reason for there to be no parking in that area. There was no traffic, commerce or business happening there.

I was not obstructing anything. Yet, the city council decreed that parking there is illegal. Because they have their fingers in the companies running the local car parks.

Are you happy with government agents asking you to move along, when you're doing nothing that causes anyone any harm?

/I thought Americans liked freedom.

Sorry, but that is not how the law works. If you disagree with that area being no-parking then petition the city to change it and/or vote for someone who will work to change it.

/I do not think that freedom means what you think it means.
//Freedom != being able to do whatever the hell you want


Whatevs. I got the better of the cop that suggested i should pay a fine. I shifted myself to where the city doesn't make a profit from parking fees.

I exercised my right to ignore the government.
 
2012-05-03 09:08:57 PM

YouPeopleAreCrazy: TheGreatGazoo: So if I put a K&N air filter on my car it is illegal in Germany unless I fill out some paperwork?

The Germans are insane about vehicle inspections. I failed once because my windshield squirter was empty. Not broken, just empty.
This was at the gas station, and the guy would not give me the two minutes to go inside, buy a bottle of juice and fill it up. No...he had to fail me, and then I could fill it up and get it reinspected.


You failed at a gas station? Wow, Dude, I'm really sorry, but wasn't there some text book you could have studied before going to the gas station?
j/k
Lived in Germany many years, took my vehicles to either the TÜV or DEKRA stations for safety check, never a gas station.
Got plenty o' tickets for modifications that weren't in the Fahrzeugschein, especially on my motorcycles.
Yes, some of those regulations are pretty strict, but you can't have a no-speed-limit Autobahn without having some sort of safety check on the vehicles.
If we would do away with speed limits in, say California, I'd stay off the road for a very long time, until Darwin has thinned the herd.
 
2012-05-03 09:20:16 PM

SurelyShirley: Dead for Tax Reasons: hit with a fine of €160 euros

wow, that's like over $200 dollars

but i guess $dollars aren't worth what they used to be

For each of his 26 offenses.
€4160 = $5500
pocket change for a 17 year old German, you know, because of socialism and all.


nevermind, too many heads flown over
 
2012-05-03 09:37:32 PM

Dead for Tax Reasons


nevermind, too many heads flown over


Ahem. 04:43:23.
 
2012-05-03 09:50:03 PM

Englebert Slaptyback: Dead for Tax Reasons

nevermind, too many heads flown over


Ahem. 04:43:23.


lol. i saw ya. it's a lonely group you're in though
 
2012-05-03 10:07:08 PM

SurelyShirley: You failed at a gas station? Wow, Dude, I'm really sorry, but wasn't there some text book you could have studied before going to the gas station?


It was the gas station on the air base. They also did inspections....2 year old Honda. Did not think there was any issue. Ah well.
 
2012-05-03 10:14:55 PM
Oh. Germany. I was wondering if it might have been me
 
2012-05-03 10:22:16 PM

skodabunny: Dead for Tax Reasons: hit with a fine of €160 euros

wow, that's like over $200 dollars

but i guess $dollars aren't worth what they used to be

26 x 160 = 4160 euros, quite a bit over $200 dollars I would say. But he still got off lightly. Driving is a privilege, not a right. If you do it irresponsibly you should face more than a financial slap on the wrist, and more than a 2 year ban. When he's 19 and back on the road, you think he'll be an improved, courteous road user?


TFA didn't state that was for each occurrence.
 
2012-05-03 10:23:53 PM

iron de havilland: Mock26: iron de havilland: change1211: So you're unhappy because you were parked in a no parking zone and got asked to move? Oh the humanity.

Yes, I was. Because there was no reason for there to be no parking in that area. There was no traffic, commerce or business happening there.

I was not obstructing anything. Yet, the city council decreed that parking there is illegal. Because they have their fingers in the companies running the local car parks.

Are you happy with government agents asking you to move along, when you're doing nothing that causes anyone any harm?

/I thought Americans liked freedom.

Sorry, but that is not how the law works. If you disagree with that area being no-parking then petition the city to change it and/or vote for someone who will work to change it.

/I do not think that freedom means what you think it means.
//Freedom != being able to do whatever the hell you want

Whatevs. I got the better of the cop that suggested i should pay a fine. I shifted myself to where the city doesn't make a profit from parking fees.

I exercised my right to ignore the government.


And which right exactly is that?
 
2012-05-03 10:33:16 PM

vodka: Kuroshin: 60mph is likely the top speed of his little baby cycle.

Meet the Aprilia RS 125. Top speed: 110 MPH (that's not including any mods).

[i.imgur.com image 406x375]


Meet the Kaw Z1. My ride in the day. Rode it for 27 years until that damn garbage truck took it out. 130 MPH. 12 sec quarter mile. The fastest production bike in its day.

I did 136 on the desert in Nevada with it.

s3.hubimg.com
 
2012-05-03 10:39:36 PM
Oops! Reading fail here.

The teenager, who did not even have the right driving license for the bike, was hit with a fine of €160 euros, three penalty points and a month's driving ban - for each of his 26 recorded offences.

I hereby rescind my previous comment.

There. Fixed that one. Whew!
 
2012-05-03 10:47:02 PM

SurelyShirley: If we would do away with speed limits in, say California, I'd stay off the road for a very long time, until Darwin has thinned the herd.


Wouldn't matter. No one pays much attention to them anyway. 80 in a 55 zone is quite common.
 
2012-05-03 10:48:15 PM
Biker??? Let's see......that's NOT a Harley.......and uh, oh yeah, 125cc??
LMFAO!
 
2012-05-03 10:51:50 PM

DrippinBalls: Good for him. Only sorry he didn't get the chance to shoot a cop.

/kill a cop today for good health & freedom!


Amen bro!
 
2012-05-03 11:06:16 PM

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Hayabusa


no, it means "peregrine falcon"

but your point is obvious.
 
2012-05-03 11:36:38 PM

saturn badger: SurelyShirley: If we would do away with speed limits in, say California, I'd stay off the road for a very long time, until Darwin has thinned the herd.

Wouldn't matter. No one pays much attention to them anyway. 80 in a 55 zone is quite common.


Now imagine no limits, no (legal) consequences. People going 120, 150, 200....
Caltrans could set up HD cameras everywhere, charge $9.95 PPV and California's budget problems would be solved.
 
2012-05-03 11:40:07 PM

clyph: ZAZ: He got off easy. Some police will charge reckless driving, or the local equivalent, allegedly because making gestures while driving is dangerous but in fact because they are offended.

They can charge you, but In the US, case law is overwhelmingly on your side if you fight it in court. Flipping the bird at a LEO has been ruled as Constitutionally protected free speech multiple times. The fact that you are directing it at a government official makes it political speech, which has the highest level of protection under the First Amendment.


It's things like this that actually make me love my country sometimes.
 
2012-05-03 11:53:47 PM

saturn badger: Meet the Kaw Z1. My ride in the day. Rode it for 27 years until that damn garbage truck took it out. 130 MPH. 12 sec quarter mile. The fastest production bike in its day.

I did 136 on the desert in Nevada with it.

[s3.hubimg.com image 520x392]


Eh? You're comparing a 900cc motorcycle to a 125?
 
2012-05-04 12:16:34 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MytfhzcSF-Y

Your all so much in need to see this then, and he did not get shoot, beaten up come to land of the free in EUR
 
2012-05-04 12:45:32 AM

YouPeopleAreCrazy: I am waiter hear me roar: No, I meant the childish name calling.

Routinely doing 170mph on the public road is childish.


I'm pretty careful, and when you get down to the actual physics, the chances of me hurting anyone but myself are pretty low. Motorcycles don't really pose much threat to automobiles in an accident. That's why liability insurance is so cheap.

You're welcome to your opinions of my driving, but name-calling isn't exactly taking the high road.
 
2012-05-04 12:51:04 AM

vodka: saturn badger: Meet the Kaw Z1. My ride in the day. Rode it for 27 years until that damn garbage truck took it out. 130 MPH. 12 sec quarter mile. The fastest production bike in its day.

I did 136 on the desert in Nevada with it.

[s3.hubimg.com image 520x392]

Eh? You're comparing a 900cc motorcycle to a 125?


Things have really changed since then. It was 1973 and the technology has progressed.
 
2012-05-04 12:54:23 AM

SurelyShirley: Now imagine no limits, no (legal) consequences. People going 120, 150, 200....
Caltrans could set up HD cameras everywhere, charge $9.95 PPV and California's budget problems would be solved.


I think 120 is not out of the question today. Some cars pass me in a blur sometimes.

But I do like the idea of PPV and the Darwin effect.
 
2012-05-04 01:05:50 AM

I am waiter hear me roar: You're welcome to your opinions of my driving, but name-calling isn't exactly taking the high road.


"asshole in a BMW"
"self-important soccer mom"
"little pansies"

Now that we have that out of the way....

"I'm pretty careful, and when you get down to the actual physics, the chances of me hurting anyone but myself are pretty low. Motorcycles don't really pose much threat to automobiles in an accident."

I'll just refer you to these examples of 'actual physics'
3.bp.blogspot.com
www.cmsnl.com


You may be the safest rider you know. But all it takes is one 'self-important soccer mom' to make a mess of things.

Take your high speed shiat to the track.
 
2012-05-04 01:54:09 AM

I am waiter hear me roar: I'm pretty careful, and when you get down to the actual physics, the chances of me hurting anyone but myself are pretty low. Motorcycles don't really pose much threat to automobiles in an accident. That's why liability insurance is so cheap.

You're welcome to your opinions of my driving, but name-calling isn't exactly taking the high road.


I suggest you get your balls up and get over to the Isle of Man for the TT at the end of May if you like riding that fast regularly on public roads. (new window) Come back with a finish in the top 20 and you might garner some respect.

170 in a straight line isn't a big deal... Any idiot can hold a throttle open and watch a needle climb. Try it around Turn 8 at Willow Springs as the entire chassis is bucking and skittering and your tires are chattering and clawing at the asphalt for anything resembling traction.

I do it without even flinching, and I've got a stack of trophies to back up that claim.
 
2012-05-04 01:56:42 AM

YouPeopleAreCrazy: I am waiter hear me roar: You're welcome to your opinions of my driving, but name-calling isn't exactly taking the high road.

"asshole in a BMW"
"self-important soccer mom"
"little pansies"

Now that we have that out of the way....


What point are you trying to make? None of those quotes are directed at anyone in this conversation.

"I'm pretty careful, and when you get down to the actual physics, the chances of me hurting anyone but myself are pretty low. Motorcycles don't really pose much threat to automobiles in an accident."

I'll just refer you to these examples of 'actual physics'


Are you seriously implying that these photos represent a typical motorcycle crash? Serously?

You may be the safest rider you know. But all it takes is one 'self-important soccer mom' to make a mess of things.


Automobile drivers have consistently shown gross disregard for my life and safety. I'll decide what's best for me, thanks. Their (and perforce, your) opinions about safe driving don't really concern me.


Take your high speed shiat to the track.


I'll take it wherever I please, and there's not a damned thing you can do about it, which was kind of my point in the first place. I have the power in this scenario. You (all) could have been careful and considerate when I tried to play nice, but you didn't. So I'm going to take my 178whp and use it as I see fit. Car drivers have been ignoring me for years... They can go right on doing so.
 
2012-05-04 02:09:46 AM

I am waiter hear me roar: YouPeopleAreCrazy: I am waiter hear me roar:

I'll take it wherever I please, and there's not a damned thing you can do about it, which was kind of my point in the first place. I have the power in this scenario. You (all) could have been careful and considerate when I tried to play nice, but you didn't. So I'm going to take my 178whp and use it as I see fit. Car drivers have been ignoring me for years... They can go right on doing so.


Yeah, we get it. You're on some kind of homicidal vengeance trip. Get over it, grow up, and know that just one wrong move at that speed could take out an entire, innocent family. I deal with the chick drivers and commuters not seeing me on my bike either, but I don't stupidly go ridiculous speeds to counteract their ineptitude. You're acting more self-important than they are. They're just oblivious; you're choosing to be dangerous.
 
2012-05-04 02:20:44 AM

moike: I am waiter hear me roar: I'm pretty careful, and when you get down to the actual physics, the chances of me hurting anyone but myself are pretty low. Motorcycles don't really pose much threat to automobiles in an accident. That's why liability insurance is so cheap.

You're welcome to your opinions of my driving, but name-calling isn't exactly taking the high road.

I suggest you get your balls up and get over to the Isle of Man for the TT at the end of May if you like riding that fast regularly on public roads. (new window) Come back with a finish in the top 20 and you might garner some respect.

170 in a straight line isn't a big deal... Any idiot can hold a throttle open and watch a needle climb. Try it around Turn 8 at Willow Springs as the entire chassis is bucking and skittering and your tires are chattering and clawing at the asphalt for anything resembling traction.

I do it without even flinching, and I've got a stack of trophies to back up that claim.


I know who you are, and I know you're an accomplished rider. No need to talk about your trophies. I'm certainly not here to hang my balls out. I do put up some respectable times on roads that would pucker even your iron sphincter though, I'm sure.

My point is, I listened for years about how to share the road, and ride defensively, and it nearly got me killed every day because someone thought their phone call or text message, or even an extra few seconds of their commute was more important than my life and limb. So I'm not playing the game anymore. I make my own rules, because I have the power to do so, and I manage my own risk because they are clearly not willing to consider me a person.
 
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