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2012-05-03 02:24:49 PM  
A Chinese-based bank that's up to shenanigans? The hell you say.
 
2012-05-03 03:15:42 PM  
Illegal banking practices happening at a high level in US Banks? The hell you say.
 
2012-05-03 04:11:30 PM  
Shenanigans in a self-regulated industry? The hell you say.
 
2012-05-03 04:13:18 PM  
Nobody of significance will see any jail time? The hell you say
 
2012-05-03 04:13:25 PM  
The hell you say? The hell you say.
 
2012-05-03 04:13:27 PM  
Reuters sounds like a conspiracy nut website


/cc grin
 
2012-05-03 04:15:52 PM  
If we stopped wasting our time dealing with constrictive regulations on businesses (which are the lifeblood of our economy), money would be doing what it does best, which is putting people to work. A bank cannot be held responsible for WHERE them money comes from. The fact is, it is money, and money creates jobs. If we took our hands off the wheel, and let capitalism right itself, we would be surprised at what capitalism can do. History has show us this, time and time again. If HSBC fails as a result of its practices, that will only impact HSBC, and that will only pave the way for the better, more capable banks to survive. That is the heart of how our country thrives. Business have an understood contract with the people, whether employees or consumers or otherwise, and when Businesses engage in unethical behavior, the people will eventually find out as a matter of course, and the business will be ground in the cogs of capitalism in action. Regulations are never, ever, EVER the answer.
 
2012-05-03 04:17:18 PM  

deeyablo: If we stopped wasting our time dealing with constrictive regulations on businesses (which are the lifeblood of our economy), money would be doing what it does best, which is putting people to work. A bank cannot be held responsible for WHERE them money comes from. The fact is, it is money, and money creates jobs. If we took our hands off the wheel, and let capitalism right itself, we would be surprised at what capitalism can do. History has show us this, time and time again. If HSBC fails as a result of its practices, that will only impact HSBC, and that will only pave the way for the better, more capable banks to survive. That is the heart of how our country thrives. Business have an understood contract with the people, whether employees or consumers or otherwise, and when Businesses engage in unethical behavior, the people will eventually find out as a matter of course, and the business will be ground in the cogs of capitalism in action. Regulations are never, ever, EVER the answer.


You may get a bite or two.
 
2012-05-03 04:18:00 PM  
Banks don't "police themselves" very well or at all? The hell you say.
 
2012-05-03 04:20:11 PM  

deeyablo: *snip rant*.


And trickle-down economics helps the poor as well, huh?
 
2012-05-03 04:22:09 PM  
Seriously! If you don't like the pay, don't work there. If you don't like the banks practices, don't put your money there. If you don't feel a product meets your personal quality or safety standards, don't buy it. If GW's wooden dentures that were actually not made of wood gave him splinters in his mouth, do you think he would sue for a bagillion dollars, and create a federal agency to regulate dentures? No! He was too busy writing the constitution to bother with that. We have much bigger fish to fry, folks. We keep asking ourselves how we can fix the economy, and then we do something by creating regulations! Are we so lacking in intellimence that we cannot find a way for Government to proactively do something that is not regulatory? Come on people, think. THINK!
 
2012-05-03 04:23:01 PM  
26.media.tumblr.com
 
2012-05-03 04:27:43 PM  
It was mostly campaign contributions. We made that legal now.
 
2012-05-03 04:27:58 PM  

gopher321: deeyablo: *snip rant*.

And trickle-down economics helps the poor as well, huh?


YES! Businesses use their money to create jobs, and you know who needs jobs? THE POOR! It's not about hand outs, but hand ups.

Seriously, you people act like the Government has some magic machine for knowing where every dollar bills comes from. I seriously doubt a major bank wants to actively engage in business with people engaged in illegal activities. You think they want to be party to something like that? Banks are not in the business of engaging in wholesale risky behavior. Why would they destabalize themselves? No! That does not make sense.
 
2012-05-03 04:30:54 PM  

deeyablo: YES! Businesses use their money to create jobs, and you know who needs jobs? THE POOR! It's not about hand outs, but hand ups.


Oh so that's why in 20 years the income gap between the rich and the middle class has grown at exponential rates while at the same time we've had a financial meltdown leading to depression era unemployment. See I get confused with facts and reality sometimes.
 
2012-05-03 04:32:33 PM  

max_pooper: deeyablo: If we stopped wasting our time dealing with constrictive regulations on businesses (which are the lifeblood of our economy), money would be doing what it does best, which is putting people to work. A bank cannot be held responsible for WHERE them money comes from. The fact is, it is money, and money creates jobs. If we took our hands off the wheel, and let capitalism right itself, we would be surprised at what capitalism can do. History has show us this, time and time again. If HSBC fails as a result of its practices, that will only impact HSBC, and that will only pave the way for the better, more capable banks to survive. That is the heart of how our country thrives. Business have an understood contract with the people, whether employees or consumers or otherwise, and when Businesses engage in unethical behavior, the people will eventually find out as a matter of course, and the business will be ground in the cogs of capitalism in action. Regulations are never, ever, EVER the answer.

You may get a bite or two.


No way. No one could possibly see that as anything other than droll humor.
 
2012-05-03 04:36:19 PM  

neversubmit: Reuters sounds like a conspiracy nut website


/cc grin


The hell you say.
 
2012-05-03 04:40:23 PM  

BMulligan: max_pooper: deeyablo:
No way. No one could possibly see that as anything other than droll humor.


How about House Republicans?

/slowthreadisslow
 
2012-05-03 04:40:24 PM  

Citrate1007: deeyablo: YES! Businesses use their money to create jobs, and you know who needs jobs? THE POOR! It's not about hand outs, but hand ups.

Oh so that's why in 20 years the income gap between the rich and the middle class has grown at exponential rates while at the same time we've had a financial meltdown leading to depression era unemployment. See I get confused with facts and reality sometimes.


If the government would stop trying to crush businesses with taxes and regulations, they would have the free capital and incentive to pay people the wages they demand. This has been evidenced over and over, without the need of government intervention. The businesses have had ZERO choice but to cut costs where they can to remain afloat and competitive. In the end, wage stagnation and the loss of benefits would be stemmed if big government would stop sticking it's stupid nose where it never belonged, ever, ever, ever. These people running businesses are not one-dimensional greedy monsters. They do actually care about the people of this nation, and whether they are happy and fulfilled. Stop demonizing them.
 
2012-05-03 04:43:46 PM  

Citrate1007: BMulligan: max_pooper: deeyablo:
No way. No one could possibly see that as anything other than droll humor.

How about House Republicans?

/slowthreadisslow


Likewise, no one could possibly see House Republicans as anything but droll humor. Dark and bitter, sure, but droll.
 
2012-05-03 04:46:09 PM  

deeyablo: Citrate1007: deeyablo: YES! Businesses use their money to create jobs, and you know who needs jobs? THE POOR! It's not about hand outs, but hand ups.

Oh so that's why in 20 years the income gap between the rich and the middle class has grown at exponential rates while at the same time we've had a financial meltdown leading to depression era unemployment. See I get confused with facts and reality sometimes.

If the government would stop trying to crush businesses with taxes and regulations, they would have the free capital and incentive to pay people the wages they demand. This has been evidenced over and over, without the need of government intervention. The businesses have had ZERO choice but to cut costs where they can to remain afloat and competitive. In the end, wage stagnation and the loss of benefits would be stemmed if big government would stop sticking it's stupid nose where it never belonged, ever, ever, ever. These people running businesses are not one-dimensional greedy monsters. They do actually care about the people of this nation, and whether they are happy and fulfilled. Stop demonizing them.


Oh, so that is why China pays such good wages. What your saying feels true, but when I think about it for too long it starts to hurt my head.
 
2012-05-03 04:52:48 PM  

Citrate1007: deeyablo: Citrate1007: deeyablo: YES! Businesses use their money to create jobs, and you know who needs jobs? THE POOR! It's not about hand outs, but hand ups.

Oh so that's why in 20 years the income gap between the rich and the middle class has grown at exponential rates while at the same time we've had a financial meltdown leading to depression era unemployment. See I get confused with facts and reality sometimes.

If the government would stop trying to crush businesses with taxes and regulations, they would have the free capital and incentive to pay people the wages they demand. This has been evidenced over and over, without the need of government intervention. The businesses have had ZERO choice but to cut costs where they can to remain afloat and competitive. In the end, wage stagnation and the loss of benefits would be stemmed if big government would stop sticking it's stupid nose where it never belonged, ever, ever, ever. These people running businesses are not one-dimensional greedy monsters. They do actually care about the people of this nation, and whether they are happy and fulfilled. Stop demonizing them.

Oh, so that is why China pays such good wages. What your saying feels true, but when I think about it for too long it starts to hurt my head.


Actually, China does more to curtail the growth of individual wealth to the point that the list of the wealthiest chinese is always in flux. See? Big government in action!!

I am talking about America. The greatest nation on the face of the planet ever. Forever. The home of the American Dream. Own a house! Afford to have a couple of kids, a car in the driveway, dinner on the table! Businesses make that happen. I promise you, if we took the tax rate down to 0% for businesses, did away with regulations, in no time, all of those offshore jobs? Right back here. Businesses would be clamoring to hire, and people would be clamoring to work. A new American golden age.
 
2012-05-03 05:01:04 PM  

deeyablo: I am talking about America. The greatest nation on the face of the planet ever. Forever. The home of the American Dream. Own a house! Afford to have a couple of kids, a car in the driveway, dinner on the table! Businesses make that happen. I promise you, if we took the tax rate down to 0% for businesses, did away with regulations, in no time, all of those offshore jobs? Right back here. Businesses would be clamoring to hire, and people would be clamoring to work. A new American golden age.


I've highlighted the "best part."

/Comedy gold, Jerry!
 
2012-05-03 05:10:06 PM  
BMulligan:I've highlighted the "best part."

/Comedy gold, Jerry!

Thank you, thank you.

Bows

/OH LADY!
 
2012-05-03 05:12:05 PM  

deeyablo: If we stopped wasting our time dealing with constrictive regulations on businesses (which are the lifeblood of our economy), money would be doing what it does best, which is putting people to work. A bank cannot be held responsible for WHERE them money comes from. The fact is, it is money, and money creates jobs. If we took our hands off the wheel, and let capitalism right itself, we would be surprised at what capitalism can do. History has show us this, time and time again. If HSBC fails as a result of its practices, that will only impact HSBC, and that will only pave the way for the better, more capable banks to survive. That is the heart of how our country thrives. Business have an understood contract with the people, whether employees or consumers or otherwise, and when Businesses engage in unethical behavior, the people will eventually find out as a matter of course, and the business will be ground in the cogs of capitalism in action. Regulations are never, ever, EVER the answer.


aaronmcrae.files.wordpress.com
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2012-05-03 05:22:47 PM  

deeyablo: Citrate1007: deeyablo: Citrate1007: deeyablo: YES! Businesses use their money to create jobs, and you know who needs jobs? THE POOR! It's not about hand outs, but hand ups.

Oh so that's why in 20 years the income gap between the rich and the middle class has grown at exponential rates while at the same time we've had a financial meltdown leading to depression era unemployment. See I get confused with facts and reality sometimes.

If the government would stop trying to crush businesses with taxes and regulations, they would have the free capital and incentive to pay people the wages they demand. This has been evidenced over and over, without the need of government intervention. The businesses have had ZERO choice but to cut costs where they can to remain afloat and competitive. In the end, wage stagnation and the loss of benefits would be stemmed if big government would stop sticking it's stupid nose where it never belonged, ever, ever, ever. These people running businesses are not one-dimensional greedy monsters. They do actually care about the people of this nation, and whether they are happy and fulfilled. Stop demonizing them.

Oh, so that is why China pays such good wages. What your saying feels true, but when I think about it for too long it starts to hurt my head.

Actually, China does more to curtail the growth of individual wealth to the point that the list of the wealthiest chinese is always in flux. See? Big government in action!!

I am talking about America. The greatest nation on the face of the planet ever. Forever. The home of the American Dream. Own a house! Afford to have a couple of kids, a car in the driveway, dinner on the table! Businesses make that happen. I promise you, if we took the tax rate down to 0% for businesses, did away with regulations, in no time, all of those offshore jobs? Right back here. Businesses would be clamoring to hire, and people would be clamoring to work. A new American golden age.


i412.photobucket.com
 
2012-05-03 05:27:45 PM  

deeyablo: Citrate1007: deeyablo: Citrate1007: deeyablo: YES! Businesses use their money to create jobs, and you know who needs jobs? THE POOR! It's not about hand outs, but hand ups.

Oh so that's why in 20 years the income gap between the rich and the middle class has grown at exponential rates while at the same time we've had a financial meltdown leading to depression era unemployment. See I get confused with facts and reality sometimes.

If the government would stop trying to crush businesses with taxes and regulations, they would have the free capital and incentive to pay people the wages they demand. This has been evidenced over and over, without the need of government intervention. The businesses have had ZERO choice but to cut costs where they can to remain afloat and competitive. In the end, wage stagnation and the loss of benefits would be stemmed if big government would stop sticking it's stupid nose where it never belonged, ever, ever, ever. These people running businesses are not one-dimensional greedy monsters. They do actually care about the people of this nation, and whether they are happy and fulfilled. Stop demonizing them.

Oh, so that is why China pays such good wages. What your saying feels true, but when I think about it for too long it starts to hurt my head.

Actually, China does more to curtail the growth of individual wealth to the point that the list of the wealthiest chinese is always in flux. See? Big government in action!!

I am talking about America. The greatest nation on the face of the planet ever. Forever. The home of the American Dream. Own a house! Afford to have a couple of kids, a car in the driveway, dinner on the table! Businesses make that happen. I promise you, if we took the tax rate down to 0% for businesses, did away with regulations, in no time, all of those offshore jobs? Right back here. Businesses would be clamoring to hire, and people would be clamoring to work. A new American golden age.


Oh I get it just like Ayn Rand said. So kind of like how it was when we were building the railroads and mining back in the day. It was perfectly fine for the owners to pay their workers with money only usable in company stores because it was legal slavery, the number of worker deaths wasn't an issue because people were always hungry enough to replace them, and when they tried to turn in to communists and strike the owners could just hire people to open up gunfire on the workers, women, and children in their camps to break the strike. Yes, the glory days of no govermental regulation on businesses. If only we'd follow Ayn Rand's blueprint we could go back to what this country was founded on.

/Last post for the day, but its been fun.
 
2012-05-03 05:28:44 PM  

deeyablo: gopher321: deeyablo: *snip rant*.

And trickle-down economics helps the poor as well, huh?

YES! Businesses use their money to create jobs, and you know who needs jobs? THE POOR! It's not about hand outs, but hand ups.

Seriously, you people act like the Government has some magic machine for knowing where every dollar bills comes from. I seriously doubt a major bank wants to actively engage in business with people engaged in illegal activities. You think they want to be party to something like that? Banks are not in the business of engaging in wholesale risky behavior. Why would they destabalize themselves? No! That does not make sense.


This one is pretty good, you should have lead with that.
 
2012-05-03 05:29:14 PM  

fusillade762: deeyablo: Citrate1007: deeyablo: Citrate1007: deeyablo: YES! Businesses use their money to create jobs, and you know who needs jobs? THE POOR! It's not about hand outs, but hand ups.

Oh so that's why in 20 years the income gap between the rich and the middle class has grown at exponential rates while at the same time we've had a financial meltdown leading to depression era unemployment. See I get confused with facts and reality sometimes.

If the government would stop trying to crush businesses with taxes and regulations, they would have the free capital and incentive to pay people the wages they demand. This has been evidenced over and over, without the need of government intervention. The businesses have had ZERO choice but to cut costs where they can to remain afloat and competitive. In the end, wage stagnation and the loss of benefits would be stemmed if big government would stop sticking it's stupid nose where it never belonged, ever, ever, ever. These people running businesses are not one-dimensional greedy monsters. They do actually care about the people of this nation, and whether they are happy and fulfilled. Stop demonizing them.

Oh, so that is why China pays such good wages. What your saying feels true, but when I think about it for too long it starts to hurt my head.

Actually, China does more to curtail the growth of individual wealth to the point that the list of the wealthiest chinese is always in flux. See? Big government in action!!

I am talking about America. The greatest nation on the face of the planet ever. Forever. The home of the American Dream. Own a house! Afford to have a couple of kids, a car in the driveway, dinner on the table! Businesses make that happen. I promise you, if we took the tax rate down to 0% for businesses, did away with regulations, in no time, all of those offshore jobs? Right back here. Businesses would be clamoring to hire, and people would be clamoring to work. A new American golden age.

[i412.photobuc ...


I don't know. I had bites. You have to push the envelope and see how far you can go. Don't stifle my creativity!!
 
2012-05-03 05:31:40 PM  

fusillade762: [i412.photobuc ...


"Your" and "you're" are not the same word.
 
2012-05-03 05:36:19 PM  
Can we PLEASE start throwing some bankers in prison???
 
2012-05-03 05:50:59 PM  

rogue49: Can we PLEASE start throwing some bankers in prison???


Nope. The best you're ever going to get is Bernie Madoff and similar rich guys whose crime is stealing from other rich guys.
 
2012-05-03 06:00:01 PM  

BMulligan: fusillade762: [i412.photobuc ...

"Your" and "you're" are not the same word.


I know. I didn't make the pic, I just think it's amusing. Even with the error.


rogue49: Can we PLEASE start throwing some bankers in prison???


According to this guy there's supposed to be mass arrests any day now.

MAJOR EVENT: Liens Filed Against All 12 Federal Reserve Banks

Of course that was almost 3 weeks ago.
 
2012-05-03 06:04:06 PM  
I know what will fix this! Tax cuts for the rich! There, now you can all rest easy. I got this.
 
2012-05-03 06:04:53 PM  

Farker Soze: rogue49: Can we PLEASE start throwing some bankers in prison???

Nope. The best you're ever going to get is Bernie Madoff and similar rich guys whose crime is stealing from other rich guys.


Don't forget they also threw Martha Stewart in the clink to make folk think they were serious about cleaning up Wall Street.

I, however, remain oddly unconvinced.
 
2012-05-03 06:46:02 PM  

gopher321: A Chinese-based bank that's up to shenanigans? The hell you say.


HSBC is headquartered in London. They threaten to move back to Hong Kong every few years or so in order to force the UK government to keep taxes low.
 
2012-05-03 06:58:53 PM  

quatchi: Farker Soze: rogue49: Can we PLEASE start throwing some bankers in prison???

Nope. The best you're ever going to get is Bernie Madoff and similar rich guys whose crime is stealing from other rich guys.

Don't forget they also threw Martha Stewart in the clink to make folk think they were serious about cleaning up Wall Street.

I, however, remain oddly unconvinced.


They also threw that other banker in jail, but he was brown, so I guess that doesn't count as fixing corruption; it's just making sure the Hamptons country club reverts to its usual consistent shark-belly blue/white color.
 
2012-05-03 07:59:40 PM  

WhoIsNotInMyKitchen: quatchi: Farker Soze: rogue49: Can we PLEASE start throwing some bankers in prison???

Nope. The best you're ever going to get is Bernie Madoff and similar rich guys whose crime is stealing from other rich guys.

Don't forget they also threw Martha Stewart in the clink to make folk think they were serious about cleaning up Wall Street.

I, however, remain oddly unconvinced.

They also threw that other banker in jail, but he was brown, so I guess that doesn't count as fixing corruption; it's just making sure the Hamptons country club reverts to its usual consistent shark-belly blue/white color.


LOL. That reminded me of the old Robin Williams joke about Orange County, CA.

"A shark recently washed up on the shores of OC, the neighbors were relieved to note it was a great white".

/Paraphrased a bit.
 
2012-05-03 08:41:48 PM  
www.bestonlinecolleges.com

Wanted for questioning
 
2012-05-03 08:50:48 PM  
deeyablo

I don't know, if I was in their position, I doubt I'd be worthy of undemonization. Put yourself in their position and think of what you would do.

/or not, I'm probably easily corruptable
//cool, I found an open tab on my shared computer:
Not exactly relevant, but of a similar disposition. Ignore the hyperbole at the beginning
 
2012-05-03 10:02:23 PM  

deeyablo: If we stopped wasting our time dealing with constrictive regulations on businesses (which are the lifeblood of our economy), money would be doing what it does best, which is putting people to work. A bank cannot be held responsible for WHERE them money comes from. The fact is, it is money, and money creates jobs. If we took our hands off the wheel, and let capitalism right itself, we would be surprised at what capitalism can do. History has show us this, time and time again. If HSBC fails as a result of its practices, that will only impact HSBC, and that will only pave the way for the better, more capable banks to survive. That is the heart of how our country thrives. Business have an understood contract with the people, whether employees or consumers or otherwise, and when Businesses engage in unethical behavior, the people will eventually find out as a matter of course, and the business will be ground in the cogs of capitalism in action. Regulations are never, ever, EVER the answer.


The Devil, you say?
 
2012-05-04 07:04:07 AM  

deeyablo: BMulligan:I've highlighted the "best part."

/Comedy gold, Jerry!

Thank you, thank you.

Bows

/OH LADY!


Well done! Though I spent too long looking for the hidden theme. SAM has spoiled good old fashioned trolling. Gotta have a hook nowadays; a shtick to bring the young folks back for more.
 
2012-05-04 06:49:56 PM  
I do what I can, boss.
 
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