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2012-05-03 03:47:48 PM
Vlad_the_Inaner: BohemianGraham: /agnostic, and was considered to be the Antichrist and a "Godless Catholic," despite never being a Catholic and a mere Anglican when I did follow organised religion

You mean Henry the VIII didn't consider himself more Catholic than the Pope?


He did, but at the same time, Anglicans encouraged people to get divorced to go after younger, hoter pieces of ass of the opposite gender, and allowed their ministers to actually marry so they wouldn't fark choir boys while wearing a dress like a lot of Catholic priests seem to do.
 
2012-05-03 03:49:35 PM
I alone am best: Its a metaphor for saying if you're praying in public for the sole purpose of letting other people see you then you and think you are holy then you are a hypocrite. It has nothing to do with people who are praying in public for the reason of practicing their faith.

Yeah. It doesn't actually say that.
 
2012-05-03 03:50:13 PM
dj_bigbird: I guess this guy hasn't read his own Bible, Matthew 6:5-7

Since when is a t-shirt the equivalent to prayer.
 
2012-05-03 03:52:15 PM
genner: dj_bigbird: I guess this guy hasn't read his own Bible, Matthew 6:5-7

Since when is a t-shirt the equivalent to prayer.


If he's claiming religious persecution based on the content of the t-shirt, then apparently since this kid in the article decided so.
 
2012-05-03 03:52:48 PM
The Flexecutioner: skullkrusher: Stupid kid in Canada

ftfy


not sure what the kid is doing wrong
 
2012-05-03 03:56:00 PM
Marcintosh: Boatmech: Smoky Dragon Dish: Mugato: I had to wear tape over my "I'm Bart Simpson, who the Hell are you?" shirt, that's how far back I go.

We couldn't wear Spuds McKenize tee-shirts at school. That's how far back *I* go.

"there will be no wearing of "Jeans" or of "Bell Bottom" pants while attending school either in classes or during functions."

*lucky to have lived this long*


Ha!, before my time.
/next time I'm stateside I've got to dig those old shirts out of storage, see what shape they're in.
 
2012-05-03 03:56:08 PM
Pretty sure the problem was the kid being a dickhead about it, not the shirt. Just that easy.
 
2012-05-03 03:57:29 PM
Tatsuma: Oh boohoo. Something on a t-shirt I disagree with!

The three most offensive things (in order) about this article:

1) The fact that someone would try to prevent him from wearing it
2) the color of the t-shirt
3) the fact he wore it every day for months (seriously?)


He has every right to wear that t-shirt, or one about Islam, or about being a Jedi, as long as there are no specific school rules that makes it forbidden to specifically wear clothes or accessories that display religious messages.

And he would have every right to take the school to court to fight those rules.


Well now that the supporter of an apartheid theocracy has chimed in, I think the discussion is over.
 
2012-05-03 04:00:11 PM
skullkrusher: The Flexecutioner: skullkrusher: Stupid kid in Canada

ftfy

not sure what the kid is doing wrong


if you read the article he is being rather obstinate about this particular shirt. the school had no problem with other christian shirts and even asked that he add the word 'My" to the one in the article but he has changed it into a human rights/assault on christianity argument. i find that quite stupid, not literally stupid, but figuratively. and from reading other articles about this kid/topic linked in this thread it seems he may be doing a bit of proselytizing/religion baiting at the school.

i didnt go all encyclopedia brown sleuth on the topic, just taking the article and a couple posts from it. the tatsuma battle has been far more entertaining than the article so im just enjoying some thread popcorn.

i can give the kid props for one thing: sticking to his guns even if it means getting expelled the rest of the year. that takes some courage, but i still think it is quite stupid.
 
2012-05-03 04:00:21 PM
Tatsuma:

He has every right to wear that t-shirt, or one about Islam, or about being a Jedi, as long as there are no specific school rules that makes it forbidden to specifically wear clothes or accessories that display religious messages.

And he would have every right to take the school to court to fight those rules.


Are you an expert on Canadian law now? The shirt's message "Life is Wasted without Jesus" could easily be considered proselytizing and offensive to other religions that don't recognize Jesus as divine. The principle said he would have been fine with a shirt that said "My life was wasted without Jesus". The school decided they don't want to allow clothes that condemn other religions the student disagrees.
 
2012-05-03 04:00:48 PM
A. Is there a Canadian Civil Liberties Union?

B. Tats posting in a non Israel thread? SIGN OF THE APOCALYPSE!
 
2012-05-03 04:01:24 PM
genner: dj_bigbird: I guess this guy hasn't read his own Bible, Matthew 6:5-7

Since when is a t-shirt the equivalent to prayer.


Actually a t-shirt is greater than prayer.
A T-shirt will:
Provide some protection from the sun.
Provide a bit of warmth in cold weather.
`
Prayer :
??
??
 
2012-05-03 04:02:33 PM
The Flexecutioner: if you read the article he is being rather obstinate about this particular shirt. the school had no problem with other christian shirts and even asked that he add the word 'My" to the one in the article but he has changed it into a human rights/assault on christianity argument. i find that quite stupid, not literally stupid, but figuratively. and from reading other articles about this kid/topic linked in this thread it seems he may be doing a bit of proselytizing/religion baiting at the school.

I did indeed read the article. I don't see why his is obligated to prepend the shirt with a "My". If you go home crying to your mom because some kid's shirt says "Life is wasted without Jesus", they should be sending you to the guidance counselor, not making the kid change his shirt
 
2012-05-03 04:04:51 PM
skullkrusher:

I did indeed read the article. I don't see why his is obligated to prepend the shirt with a "My". If you go home crying to your mom because some kid's shirt says "Life is wasted without Jesus", they should be sending you to the guidance counselor, not making the kid change his shirt


He was also verbally abusing other people about their religions. Kid is nothing more than an AW who just got his outlet.
 
2012-05-03 04:04:56 PM
Tatsuma: Oh boohoo. Something on a t-shirt I disagree with!

The three most offensive things (in order) about this article:

1) The fact that someone would try to prevent him from wearing it
2) the color of the t-shirt
3) the fact he wore it every day for months (seriously?)


He has every right to wear that t-shirt, or one about Islam, or about being a Jedi, as long as there are no specific school rules that makes it forbidden to specifically wear clothes or accessories that display religious messages.

And he would have every right to take the school to court to fight those rules.


People with his sort of attitude are why such rules are drafted in many places.

And what's your attitude for when they do adopt such a rule?
 
2012-05-03 04:05:42 PM
Tatsuma: kingoomieiii: Yeah nothing hateful with 'Your life is pointless if you don't agree with me'

Do you even know what the word 'hateful' means?


A student who repeatedly harasses other students about their beliefs and uses a slightly-irritating slogan to proclaim that he will continue to do so?
 
2012-05-03 04:07:28 PM
Crotchrocket Slim:
People with his sort of attitude are why such rules are drafted in many places.

And what's your attitude for when they do adopt such a rule?


There is no rule in my handbook saying I am not allowed to shiat in the center of the bathroom I guess I need to go and do it now.
 
2012-05-03 04:08:02 PM
TNel: dbutts:

Let the dude dress and act like a douche. If you don't like what he has to say, ignore him, if he harasses you, contact authorities.

Problem solved, try the fish.

He did harass people and they did contact authorities.


One person claimed that, on Facebook...not exactly solid evidence, and no mention of contacting authorities. I stand by my post....

/I stick to ma story, I am from Jamaica mon!
 
2012-05-03 04:10:09 PM
Tatsuma: kingoomieiii: "LIFE IS WASTED WITHOUT JESUS" isn't hateful? If you don't believe in Jesus, you're wasting your life?

No, its stating an opinion.


Legally speaking, at least within the US, stating an opinion in an inappropriate manner in an inappropriate setting can constitute harassment. Something's status as an opinion doesn't grant it super-rights or anything.
 
2012-05-03 04:11:41 PM
TNel: Crotchrocket Slim:
People with his sort of attitude are why such rules are drafted in many places.

And what's your attitude for when they do adopt such a rule?

There is no rule in my handbook saying I am not allowed to shiat in the center of the bathroom I guess I need to go and do it now.


So long as it is space you control you're golden, but there are laws in place to prevent you from doing that for property you do NOT control. Got any oranges or just apples?
 
2012-05-03 04:13:30 PM
dbutts: TNel: dbutts:

Let the dude dress and act like a douche. If you don't like what he has to say, ignore him, if he harasses you, contact authorities.

Problem solved, try the fish.

He did harass people and they did contact authorities.

One person claimed that, on Facebook...not exactly solid evidence, and no mention of contacting authorities. I stand by my post....

/I stick to ma story, I am from Jamaica mon!


Here is a better article about the story and student He comes across as a fundy that enjoys pushing his religion on other people.
 
2012-05-03 04:13:57 PM
I'm a little curious if anyone would support a student's right to wear a shirt proclaiming "the unexamined life is not worth living"? It isn't anti-anyone (save the intentionally ignorant) and it goes along hand in hand with the mission of public education (really, any educational institution).
 
2012-05-03 04:14:10 PM
Tatsuma: Because, guess what? We don't need the translations, because we speak the language, and the few times we translate it, we translate it correctly.

Bwahahahahaha!
 
2012-05-03 04:14:53 PM
skullkrusher: The Flexecutioner: if you read the article he is being rather obstinate about this particular shirt. the school had no problem with other christian shirts and even asked that he add the word 'My" to the one in the article but he has changed it into a human rights/assault on christianity argument. i find that quite stupid, not literally stupid, but figuratively. and from reading other articles about this kid/topic linked in this thread it seems he may be doing a bit of proselytizing/religion baiting at the school.

I did indeed read the article. I don't see why his is obligated to prepend the shirt with a "My". If you go home crying to your mom because some kid's shirt says "Life is wasted without Jesus", they should be sending you to the guidance counselor, not making the kid change his shirt


i'd rather some bullies just hold him down and take black marker to the 'out' part of 'without' and make him buy new ones everyday. i rarely side with school admins on ANYTHING, but this is one where I want the kid to learn the hard way what authority is in school. he can pray to his higher one all he wants but he probably wont see any immediate miracles over it. that kid needs homeschooling for the benefit of everyone else, not himself. what a doosh.
 
2012-05-03 04:15:57 PM
"But I didn't go for that because I have my rights as a Canadian citizen," Swinimer said.


You have no right to free speechin canada silly.

Unless of course you are a muslim insulting christians, jews or homosexuals.
 
2012-05-03 04:21:47 PM
SphericalTime: I alone am best: Its an allegory. All that verse means is that if you don't actually believe in what your doing, and instead just doing it for the benefit of yourself then god isn't going to look favorably on you.

It's really simple to figure it out.

Who was the kid in the article doing it for? Would you say that his attempt to bring a national spotlight on his religious beliefs is for the glory of God or for his own benefit even he truly believes in it?

I guess the question is, does actually believing Jesus excuse attempting to bring glory to one's self? You seem to be implying that it does, but I don't see that anywhere in the passage. In fact, the passage seems to indicate that holding prayer in public and for publicity of faith is itself reason enough to keep someone out of heaven/the glory of God.


I think the answer is yes. If you believe in God and you are doing it to spread his word and your only bringing the attention to yourself because of that then God would not look down on you. This passage is just for people who are doing it for the sole purpose of convincing others of their piety.

Also, I am not defending the kid. I think he is an attention whore. I just think that people who don't understand what it means should tell Christians that they should go pray in their bedroom and only in their bedroom should be spouting off about it.
 
2012-05-03 04:24:00 PM
Well, arguably it's D) All of the above since:
A) Jesus turned water into wine
B) Religion is the "opiate of the masses."

That said, let the weird jesus freak kid be the weird jesus freak kid, it's not hurting anyone.
 
2012-05-03 04:24:07 PM
Carth: dbutts: TNel: dbutts:

Let the dude dress and act like a douche. If you don't like what he has to say, ignore him, if he harasses you, contact authorities.

Problem solved, try the fish.

He did harass people and they did contact authorities.

One person claimed that, on Facebook...not exactly solid evidence, and no mention of contacting authorities. I stand by my post....

/I stick to ma story, I am from Jamaica mon!

Here is a better article about the story and student He comes across as a fundy that enjoys pushing his religion on other people.


That is a logical deduction, but no evidence of harassment, save one student....who according to his Facebook profile left the school in early 2012. I think if he was harassing people the principal and teachers would've mentioned that...it would justify the suspension before the shirt was even worn.

Kids need to learn how to deal with stupid people and their stupid beliefs, not suspend the douche. Hey, great you love Jesus, leave me alone.
 
2012-05-03 04:24:53 PM
Boatmech: Smoky Dragon Dish: Boatmech: Smoky Dragon Dish: Mugato: I had to wear tape over my "I'm Bart Simpson, who the Hell are you?" shirt, that's how far back I go.

We couldn't wear Spuds McKenize tee-shirts at school. That's how far back *I* go.

[t0.gstatic.com image 92x114]

I'll see your Panama Jack, and raise you an OP.

About the same vintage if I remember right.
[t1.gstatic.com image 250x213]
I wore one like this to school way back when.
Instead if sending me home I had to wear my stinky gym t-shirt over my cool Ozzy shirt!


Well, if you wanted to dress it up a little preppy, you could always break out the Benetton rugby shirts. I was never a fan, though...

www.80scasualclassics.co.uk
 
2012-05-03 04:26:31 PM
liam76: "But I didn't go for that because I have my rights as a Canadian citizen," Swinimer said.


You have no right to free speechin canada silly.

Unless of course you are a muslim insulting christians, jews or homosexuals.


Why can't we send all the religious people to an island with guns, like Hunger Games or something, and figure out who the true God is? Kinda like what they wanna do with the gays.
 
2012-05-03 04:26:43 PM
ASININE TAG? seriously? Im not saying i agree with it not asinine tho to not let him wear it with how people file lawsuit for everything. I wouldnt let him wear it for fear of my school getting a lawsuit with all these nutjobs out there. And btw jesus people not bashing u, but its true if they let him wear and got sued THEY WOULD LOSE THAT LAWSUIT and then there wouldnt be a school. However if his shirt supported atheism or islamic views u would be the same people saying "he cant wear that bc of what it supports" i love how hypocritical religous folk are. Think about the Bible when u read it, it either has to be completely made up or complete and utter exagerrations.
 
2012-05-03 04:28:05 PM
dbutts: liam76: "But I didn't go for that because I have my rights as a Canadian citizen," Swinimer said.


You have no right to free speechin canada silly.

Unless of course you are a muslim insulting christians, jews or homosexuals.

Why can't we send all the religious people to an island with guns, like Hunger Games or something, and figure out who the true God is? Kinda like what they wanna do with the gays.


images.askmen.com
"Sure, let's talk about Jesus..."
 
2012-05-03 04:28:41 PM
There was a similar incident in my middle school. IIRC, the kid usually wore Christian themed clothing but the one that got him in trouble said something along the lines of "Jews are going to Hell," but in "more polite" language.
 
2012-05-03 04:31:08 PM
Carth: dbutts: TNel: dbutts:

Let the dude dress and act like a douche. If you don't like what he has to say, ignore him, if he harasses you, contact authorities.

Problem solved, try the fish.

He did harass people and they did contact authorities.

One person claimed that, on Facebook...not exactly solid evidence, and no mention of contacting authorities. I stand by my post....

/I stick to ma story, I am from Jamaica mon!

Here is a better article about the story and student He comes across as a fundy that enjoys pushing his religion on other people.


Please don't talk about Tats like that when he's not here to incriminate himself. ;)
 
2012-05-03 04:33:11 PM
dbutts: liam76: "But I didn't go for that because I have my rights as a Canadian citizen," Swinimer said.


You have no right to free speechin canada silly.

Unless of course you are a muslim insulting christians, jews or homosexuals.

Why can't we send all the religious people to an island with guns, like Hunger Games or something, and figure out who the true God is? Kinda like what they wanna do with the gays.


1/10 Not a good trolling attempt. You need more practice.
1/10 Pas une bonne tentative à la traîne. Vous avez besoin de plus de pratique.

/ Respecting your human rights for bilingualism.
 
2012-05-03 04:35:23 PM
PeterPipersPickledPecker: dbutts: liam76: "But I didn't go for that because I have my rights as a Canadian citizen," Swinimer said.


You have no right to free speechin canada silly.

Unless of course you are a muslim insulting christians, jews or homosexuals.

Why can't we send all the religious people to an island with guns, like Hunger Games or something, and figure out who the true God is? Kinda like what they wanna do with the gays.

[images.askmen.com image 300x300]
"Sure, let's talk about Jesus..."


Me gusta...
 
2012-05-03 04:39:05 PM
SphericalTime: I alone am best: Its a metaphor for saying if you're praying in public for the sole purpose of letting other people see you then you and think you are holy then you are a hypocrite. It has nothing to do with people who are praying in public for the reason of practicing their faith.

Yeah. It doesn't actually say that.


It does say that in the very begining. "And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites," Then it goes on to explain what the hypocrites that he is speaking of do.
 
2012-05-03 04:39:08 PM
LOLZ....people on the innerwebs debating a myth and a book of fiction written 2000 years ago (give or take)


Your defense of some god is just like a child telling me that Santa is real.


Also - penis
 
2012-05-03 04:41:19 PM
ROBOTwHUM4NHAIR: ASININE TAG? seriously? Im not saying i agree with it not asinine tho to not let him wear it with how people file lawsuit for everything. I wouldnt let him wear it for fear of my school getting a lawsuit with all these nutjobs out there. And btw jesus people not bashing u, but its true if they let him wear and got sued THEY WOULD LOSE THAT LAWSUIT and then there wouldnt be a school. However if his shirt supported atheism or islamic views u would be the same people saying "he cant wear that bc of what it supports" i love how hypocritical religous folk are. Think about the Bible when u read it, it either has to be completely made up or complete and utter exagerrations.

You might want to talk to your operator/user about upgrading your typed eloquence subroutines. This style of text is next to impossible to read.

Protip: there are situations where using the shift button and space bar are appropriate, and other situations when their use would not be appropriate. We actually have rules that govern when one should be capitalizing things and ending sentences.
/and this is from someone who doesn't give a damn about presenting prefectly edited posts to Fark
//spot the intentional error
 
2012-05-03 04:41:50 PM
dbutts: Carth: dbutts: TNel: dbutts:

Let the dude dress and act like a douche. If you don't like what he has to say, ignore him, if he harasses you, contact authorities.

Problem solved, try the fish.

He did harass people and they did contact authorities.

One person claimed that, on Facebook...not exactly solid evidence, and no mention of contacting authorities. I stand by my post....

/I stick to ma story, I am from Jamaica mon!

Here is a better article about the story and student He comes across as a fundy that enjoys pushing his religion on other people.

That is a logical deduction, but no evidence of harassment, save one student....who according to his Facebook profile left the school in early 2012. I think if he was harassing people the principal and teachers would've mentioned that...it would justify the suspension before the shirt was even worn.

Kids need to learn how to deal with stupid people and their stupid beliefs, not suspend the douche. Hey, great you love Jesus, leave me alone.


That is an important lesson to learn but it is also important that the school take action if some students are claiming a human rights violation by having their religion mocked by a student. The school tried to reach a compromise and the shirt wearer refused. Now he is suspended until an expert can testify if the shirt does in fact violate students rights to harassment free education.
 
2012-05-03 04:43:17 PM
Smoky Dragon Dish: dbutts: liam76: "But I didn't go for that because I have my rights as a Canadian citizen," Swinimer said.


You have no right to free speechin canada silly.

Unless of course you are a muslim insulting christians, jews or homosexuals.

Why can't we send all the religious people to an island with guns, like Hunger Games or something, and figure out who the true God is? Kinda like what they wanna do with the gays.

1/10 Not a good trolling attempt. You need more practice.
1/10 Pas une bonne tentative à la traîne. Vous avez besoin de plus de pratique.

/ Respecting your human rights for bilingualism.


Trolling who? There are religious people on Fark? Still? On Fark...but why? Don't get me started on the God Damn French Language Police...
 
2012-05-03 04:46:48 PM
Crotchrocket Slim: ROBOTwHUM4NHAIR: ASININE TAG? seriously? Im not saying i agree with it not asinine tho to not let him wear it with how people file lawsuit for everything. I wouldnt let him wear it for fear of my school getting a lawsuit with all these nutjobs out there. And btw jesus people not bashing u, but its true if they let him wear and got sued THEY WOULD LOSE THAT LAWSUIT and then there wouldnt be a school. However if his shirt supported atheism or islamic views u would be the same people saying "he cant wear that bc of what it supports" i love how hypocritical religous folk are. Think about the Bible when u read it, it either has to be completely made up or complete and utter exagerrations.

You might want to talk to your operator/user about upgrading your typed eloquence subroutines. This style of text is next to impossible to read.

Protip: there are situations where using the shift button and space bar are appropriate, and other situations when their use would not be appropriate. We actually have rules that govern when one should be capitalizing things and ending sentences.
/and this is from someone who doesn't give a damn about presenting prefectly edited posts to Fark
//spot the intentional error


Don't waste your time. This farker is part 1337, based on his/her username. It is you, sir, who is in error concerning his or her display of magnificence of prose.

/ People who speak 1337 are L4M4Hz
 
2012-05-03 04:47:04 PM
So sad. Poor kid thinks he's some kind of martyr.

Maybe his parents should have him read the bible and see how Jesus spread his message without being a douche about it and shoving it peoples' faces every damn day. He's showing exactly how not to spread the message.

It's hard to read the bible when you're stuck in that Jesus Christ pose.
 
2012-05-03 04:48:27 PM
Smoky Dragon Dish: Boatmech: Smoky Dragon Dish: Boatmech: Smoky Dragon Dish: Mugato: I had to wear tape over my "I'm Bart Simpson, who the Hell are you?" shirt, that's how far back I go.

We couldn't wear Spuds McKenize tee-shirts at school. That's how far back *I* go.

[t0.gstatic.com image 92x114]

I'll see your Panama Jack, and raise you an OP.

About the same vintage if I remember right.
[t1.gstatic.com image 250x213]
I wore one like this to school way back when.
Instead if sending me home I had to wear my stinky gym t-shirt over my cool Ozzy shirt!

Well, if you wanted to dress it up a little preppy, you could always break out the Benetton rugby shirts. I was never a fan, though...


t3.gstatic.com
Just say'n
 
2012-05-03 04:50:10 PM
I alone am best: I think the answer is yes. If you believe in God and you are doing it to spread his word and your only bringing the attention to yourself because of that then God would not look down on you. This passage is just for people who are doing it for the sole purpose of convincing others of their piety.

Also, I am not defending the kid. I think he is an attention whore. I just think that people who don't understand what it means should tell Christians that they should go pray in their bedroom and only in their bedroom should be spouting off about it.


I think this is an interesting reading, mostly because it adds meaning that the chapter doesn't contain to excuse the behavior of current Christians. It's essentially an eisegesis that allows the current practices to continue even though they're clearly in violation of Matthew 6. After all, the passage clearly doesn't delineate between true believers and false believers who pray in public. If anything, it suggests that praying in public is actually a problem itself, even if you are being otherwise righteous and believing while doing so.

Then you say, "I just think that people who don't understand what it means should tell Christians that they should go pray in their bedroom and only in their bedroom should be spouting off about it." That assumes that the people who understand this passage differently =/= Christians, which is a laughable claim. After all, the assumption (or presumption) that Christians have a special understanding of the Bible granted by God basically precludes the existence of more than a few splinter major splinter groups . . . and we can look around to see the falsity of that assumption. There's just no way to reconcile special revelation with our actual, living world, or with the understanding that Christians are sinners too.

Inerrancy and infallibility are weird things, even when talking about just the limited claims that the Pope makes. That some Christians in the United States claim that they apply to the average Christian on the street in any matter involving salvation are . . . .bizarre. Not especially Christian, anyway.
 
2012-05-03 04:50:25 PM
Carth: dbutts: Carth: dbutts: TNel: dbutts:

Let the dude dress and act like a douche. If you don't like what he has to say, ignore him, if he harasses you, contact authorities.

Problem solved, try the fish.

He did harass people and they did contact authorities.

One person claimed that, on Facebook...not exactly solid evidence, and no mention of contacting authorities. I stand by my post....

/I stick to ma story, I am from Jamaica mon!

Here is a better article about the story and student He comes across as a fundy that enjoys pushing his religion on other people.

That is a logical deduction, but no evidence of harassment, save one student....who according to his Facebook profile left the school in early 2012. I think if he was harassing people the principal and teachers would've mentioned that...it would justify the suspension before the shirt was even worn.

Kids need to learn how to deal with stupid people and their stupid beliefs, not suspend the douche. Hey, great you love Jesus, leave me alone.

That is an important lesson to learn but it is also important that the school take action if some students are claiming a human rights violation by having their religion mocked by a student. The school tried to reach a compromise and the shirt wearer refused. Now he is suspended until an expert can testify if the shirt does in fact violate students rights to harassment free education.


He can wear whatever he wants...it's supposed to be protected in the Charter of R&F. The Charter does not respect your right to not be offended by someone else's rights and freedoms. I said good day...
 
2012-05-03 04:51:16 PM
Satanic_Hamster: Since when are Jews Genesis literalists?

They generally are not, at least according to the professors I have had in my classes on Judaism and comparative theology.

If you look at Rashi's commentary for the creation story, he clearly states that it cant be taken literally:

In the beginning of God's creation of: Heb. בְּרֵאשִית בָּרָא. This verse calls for a midrashic interpretation [because according to its simple interpretation, the vowelization of the word בָּרָא, should be different, as Rashi explains further]. It teaches us that the sequence of the Creation as written is impossible......

... [if you say that Scripture indicates the order of creation] be astounded at yourself, for the water preceded, as it is written: "and the spirit of God hovered over the face of the water," and Scripture did not yet disclose when the creation of water took place! From this you learn that the water preceded the earth. Moreover, the heavens were created from fire and water. Perforce, you must admit that Scripture did not teach us anything about the sequence of the earlier and the later [acts of creation].

As Rashi lived around a thousand years ago, I would say taking it literally has not been in fashion for a while.
 
2012-05-03 04:51:34 PM
Boatmech: Smoky Dragon Dish: Boatmech: Smoky Dragon Dish: Boatmech: Smoky Dragon Dish: Mugato: I had to wear tape over my "I'm Bart Simpson, who the Hell are you?" shirt, that's how far back I go.

We couldn't wear Spuds McKenize tee-shirts at school. That's how far back *I* go.

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I'll see your Panama Jack, and raise you an OP.

About the same vintage if I remember right.
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I wore one like this to school way back when.
Instead if sending me home I had to wear my stinky gym t-shirt over my cool Ozzy shirt!

Well, if you wanted to dress it up a little preppy, you could always break out the Benetton rugby shirts. I was never a fan, though...

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Just say'n


ill keep my full graphics Banana Republic t-shirts, thank you.

/with cuffed short sleeves
 
2012-05-03 04:53:05 PM
unyon: FloydA: They can probably smell him from Ottowa. Ottawa

/FTFY
//seems like you Seetlites can never speel


Yeah well, who cares about the Senaters? They'll never win the Stan Lee cup.
 
2012-05-03 04:54:50 PM
dbutts: Smoky Dragon Dish: dbutts: liam76: "But I didn't go for that because I have my rights as a Canadian citizen," Swinimer said.


You have no right to free speechin canada silly.

Unless of course you are a muslim insulting christians, jews or homosexuals.

Why can't we send all the religious people to an island with guns, like Hunger Games or something, and figure out who the true God is? Kinda like what they wanna do with the gays.

1/10 Not a good trolling attempt. You need more practice.
1/10 Pas une bonne tentative à la traîne. Vous avez besoin de plus de pratique.

/ Respecting your human rights for bilingualism.

Trolling who? There are religious people on Fark? Still? On Fark...but why? Don't get me started on the God Damn French Language Police...


There are religious people everywhere, but in differing quantities. Freeman Dyson is religious, and he's a lot smarter than me, to name one.

You mean the police langue française de l'Enfer? Right???
 
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