Mugato: I had to wear tape over my "I'm Bart Simpson, who the Hell are you?" shirt, that's how far back I go.

We couldn't wear Spuds McKenize tee-shirts at school. That's how far back *I* go.

dbutts:

Let the dude dress and act like a douche. If you don't like what he has to say, ignore him, if he harasses you, contact authorities.

Problem solved, try the fish.

He did harass people and they did contact authorities.

DamnYankees: Tatsuma: Yes it does, it says in Bereshis 1 that the animals were created, and then it says that G-d formed every animal in front of Adam so he would name them.

Different words, different contexts.

Ohhh. So animals existed without any plants for them to eat, and yet somehow they were alive. Then Adam named them because god thought he was lonely, and naming the animals would make him less lonely, for some reason. And instead of simply showing him the already-existing animals, god decided to turn dirt into the animals, which again, were already existing.

Tremendous theory.

It not infrequently happens that something about the earth, about the sky, about other elements of this world, about the motion and rotation or even the magnitude and distances of the stars, about definite eclipses of the sun and moon, about the passage of years and seasons, about the nature of animals, of fruits, of stones, and of other such things, may be known with the greatest certainty by reasoning or by experience, even by one who is not a Christian. It is too disgraceful and ruinous, though, and greatly to be avoided, that he [the non-Christian] should hear a Christian speaking so idiotically on these matters, and as if in accord with Christian writings, that he might say that he could scarcely keep from laughing when he saw how totally in error they are. In view of this and in keeping it in mind constantly while dealing with the book of Genesis, I have, insofar as I was able, explained in detail and set forth for consideration the meanings of obscure passages, taking care not to affirm rashly some one meaning to the prejudice of another and perhaps better explanation.

/ Written 1600 years ago...

kid_icarus: krafty420: Swinimer says the principal would have accepted a shirt with the slogan, "My life is wasted without Jesus."

So adding the word "my" could have saved his ass - sounds reasonable

"My life is wasted without Jesus."

Fixed.

Better fix.

Jesus got promoted? When did god retire?

dbutts: TNel: dbutts:

Let the dude dress and act like a douche. If you don't like what he has to say, ignore him, if he harasses you, contact authorities.

Problem solved, try the fish.

He did harass people and they did contact authorities.

SO why is the shirt the issue? It's him, send him to Utah. Please don't make me RTFA!

Because the shirt is another issue being shown that this kid is wearing said shirt to harass others without saying it.

BohemianGraham: /agnostic, and was considered to be the Antichrist and a "Godless Catholic," despite never being a Catholic and a mere Anglican when I did follow organised religion

You mean Henry the VIII didn't consider himself more Catholic than the Pope?

Boatmech: Smoky Dragon Dish: Mugato: I had to wear tape over my "I'm Bart Simpson, who the Hell are you?" shirt, that's how far back I go.

We couldn't wear Spuds McKenize tee-shirts at school. That's how far back *I* go.

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I'll see your Panama Jack, and raise you an OP.

Tatsuma: Oh boohoo. Something on a t-shirt I disagree with!

The three most offensive things (in order) about this article:

1) The fact that someone would try to prevent him from wearing it
2) the color of the t-shirt
3) the fact he wore it every day for months (seriously?)




Cleanliness is next to godliness. Filthy hippie should get a job.

sweetmelissa31: Jackson Herring: The My Little Pony Killer: And Tats? Saying "Your life is wasted without MY religion/savior/cheesecake" IS hateful, you blind fool.

Seriously, what in the god damned fark is so hard to understand about this?

Meanwhile you just want to waltz around in this shirt all the time

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I would rather this thread turn into an 80s t-shirt thread...

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superdolfan1: Again, I say, read the entire chapter, not just the two verses. Atheists/Agnostics/Freethinkers/et al enjoy taking those two verses out of context and use it to solidify their argument against public prayer.

Guess I'll have to have a brief Sunday School lesson here for those who are to lazy to read the entire chapter. Jesus, like the rest of us, hated disliked hypocrites, especially those who wore their faith on their sleeves, like the Pharisees. He felt prayer needed to be sincere, not an act of showmanship, which is what the Pharisees seemed to do every chance they got.

Matthew 6 talks about hypocrisy in giving to the poor, praying, fasting, etc. and was directed at those who do it to bring attention to themselves, instead of what it's really for, which is to glorify the Father. Romans 14:11 reads "As certainly as I live, declares the Lord, every knee will bow to me, and every tongue will praise God.". Obviously somebody will be in a public place when this takes place.

And yes, the closet part is being used as a metaphor in Matt. 6:5-7.

Huh. A metaphor for what? All of the rest of us are reading this passage about being humble with your faith in God. How exactly is this metaphor you mention getting around that?

DammitIForgotMyLogin: I know which of those 3 is responsible for the most human misery throughout history.

humans are responsible for human misery. use any paint brush you want, but its people dooshing other people. their logic or reasoning is not the point because we should not be hurting or killing each other, period.

sweetmelissa31: Jackson Herring: The My Little Pony Killer: And Tats? Saying "Your life is wasted without MY religion/savior/cheesecake" IS hateful, you blind fool.

Seriously, what in the god damned fark is so hard to understand about this?

Meanwhile you just want to waltz around in this shirt all the time

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actually I would wear this shirt unironically I think:



I've always thought it was a great piece of graphic design

Since when are Jews Genesis literalists?

Ow! That was my feelings!: Jackson Herring: Somacandra: Its bullshiat.

The statement on his shirt, on it's face, is blatantly hostile and insulting. How is this controversial?

You are seriously offended by that kid's shirt? Hyper-sensitive much?

When did I say I was offended? I just said that it was objectively intended to be insulting.

dbutts:

Where do you get this secret info? I see nothing here regarding such...

3rd comment in has a link.

"He claims Swinimer wore the shirt for about two weeks straight and repeatedly "verbally attacked other students about their religions.""

I alone am best: Its an allegory. All that verse means is that if you don't actually believe in what your doing, and instead just doing it for the benefit of yourself then god isn't going to look favorably on you.

It's really simple to figure it out.

Who was the kid in the article doing it for? Would you say that his attempt to bring a national spotlight on his religious beliefs is for the glory of God or for his own benefit even he truly believes in it?

I guess the question is, does actually believing Jesus excuse attempting to bring glory to one's self? You seem to be implying that it does, but I don't see that anywhere in the passage. In fact, the passage seems to indicate that holding prayer in public and for publicity of faith is itself reason enough to keep someone out of heaven/the glory of God.