Oh boohoo. Something on a t-shirt I disagree with!

The three most offensive things (in order) about this article:

1) The fact that someone would try to prevent him from wearing it
2) the color of the t-shirt
3) the fact he wore it every day for months (seriously?)


He has every right to wear that t-shirt, or one about Islam, or about being a Jedi, as long as there are no specific school rules that makes it forbidden to specifically wear clothes or accessories that display religious messages.

And he would have every right to take the school to court to fight those rules.

From the far more detailed, but redlit article about this story:

Student Lucas Reeves wrote there is more to the story than what Swinimer is sharing.

"Please take your head out of the sand and realize that people are being affected by this and it needs to stop," he writes.

He claims Swinimer wore the shirt for about two weeks straight and repeatedly "verbally attacked other students about their religions."

Another student, Lianne Lenihan, says wearing a T-shirt with a religious slogan is not an issue, but this situation is much different.

"NO ONE has had a problem with William wearing any of his other t-shirts that support Christianity," she says in a Facebook post. "They have all been welcomed, and I've heard compliments on them."

"It is just this one shirt that people have found offensive," Lenihan says, "because of the other situations that have led up to this incidence."

Well, all three are addictive, mind-altering substances, aren't they?

I know which of those 3 is responsible for the most human misery throughout history.

That's racist. It's obviously just because Jesus is a middle-eastern man.

I agree he has the right to wear or be whatever he wants. However, he is throwing away his education over a piece of farking clothing. He already protested by wearing the shirt a lot! Everyone gets the point!

/Jesus would be disappointed
//oh right Jesus doesn't exist

We had a guy in our high school who wore a shirt that read something along the lines of "Proud Christian -- I will pray when I want to where I want to. Stop me at YOUR peril."

He was a little upset when, despite his attention-whoring, nobody bothered stopping him from praying when he felt like it, except when he was clearly trying to disrupt classes and it was explicitly explained to him that ANY loud public displays would be stopped.

Swinimer wore the T-shirt every day to class for several weeks. The principal told him repeatedly to stop wearing it, but the student refused to comply.



Maybe he got suspended for being farking disgusting. Seriously, a teenage boy who refuses to change his shirt for weeks? They can probably smell him from Ottowa.

Wasn't there some book that said something about reaping what you sow?

vpb: Wasn't there some book that said something about reaping what you sow?

Yeah, but it also said something about reaping the whirlwind, so I didn't pay it any more mind.

Kids should have to wear uniforms.

FloydA: They can probably smell him from Ottowa. Ottawa

/FTFY
//seems like you Seetlites can never speel

Sigh

Let the kid farking be.

Swinimer says the principal would have accepted a shirt with the slogan, "My life is wasted without Jesus."

So adding the word "my" could have saved his ass - sounds reasonable

krafty420: Swinimer says the principal would have accepted a shirt with the slogan, "My life is wasted without Jesus."

So adding the word "my" could have saved his ass - sounds reasonable

"My life is wasted without Jesus."

Fixed.

I guess this guy hasn't read his own Bible, Matthew 6:5-7

Tatsuma: Oh boohoo. Something on a t-shirt I disagree with!

The three most offensive things (in order) about this article:

1) The fact that someone would try to prevent him from wearing it
2) the color of the t-shirt
3) the fact he wore it every day for months (seriously?)


He has every right to wear that t-shirt, or one about Islam, or about being a Jedi, as long as there are no specific school rules that makes it forbidden to specifically wear clothes or accessories that display religious messages.

And he would have every right to take the school to court to fight those rules.

As always, there is more to the story than the initial poutrage suggests:

Swinimer wore the T-shirt every day to class for several weeks. The principal told him repeatedly to stop wearing it, but the student refused to comply.

Swinimer says he never intended to attack anyone else's beliefs.

Then maybe your slogan shouldn't be an attack on EVERYONE else's beliefs. You douche.

TNel: How would he have felt if someone was wearing a "Life is wasted without Muhammad." Not before he took his stand though of course now he would say everyone has the right to free speech but I'm willing to bet he would have been the first one to run to the Principal's office complaining.

Maybe so, but that hypothetical shouldn't preclude someone's freedom of speech, even in the Great White North

Tatsuma: Oh boohoo. Something on a t-shirt I disagree with!

The three most offensive things (in order) about this article:

1) The fact that someone would try to prevent him from wearing it
2) the color of the t-shirt
3) the fact he wore it every day for months (seriously?)


He has every right to wear that t-shirt, or one about Islam, or about being a Jedi, as long as there are no specific school rules that makes it forbidden to specifically wear clothes or accessories that display religious messages.

And he would have every right to take the school to court to fight those rules.

Came to say something like this.

Then saw this

dj_bigbird: I guess this guy hasn't read his own Bible, Matthew 6:5-7

And neither have you. Read Matthew 6 in its entirety and then get back to me as to what verses 5-7 actually say. And no, it has nothing to do with closets.

/Hates it when atheists take Matt. 6:5 out of context

The My Little Pony Killer: superdolfan1: And neither have you. Read Matthew 6 in its entirety and then get back to me as to what verses 5-7 actually say. And no, it has nothing to do with closets.

/Hates it when atheists take Matt. 6:5 out of context

Taken directly from KJV:

6:5= And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.
6:6= But thou, when thou prayest, enter into they closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to they Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly.

Bible disagrees with you, sparky.

I'm pretty sure a lot of them are in the closet

Tatsuma: 3) T-Shirts with hateful messages or racist messages are banned in the first place,

"LIFE IS WASTED WITHOUT JESUS" isn't hateful? If you don't believe in Jesus, you're wasting your life?

superdolfan1: /Hates it when atheists take Matt. 6:5 out of context

Yeah! Taking bible verses out of context is for Christians!

Oh, and it's not out of context. Matthew 6 is about how to serve god. 6:1-8 is entirely about how god doesn't appreciate self-serving public prayer, and how the practice can farking keep you out of heaven.

Matthew 6:1-8 [Jesus speaks] "Be careful not to practice your righteousness in front of others to be seen by them. If you do, you will have no reward from your Father in heaven. 2 "So when you give to the needy, do not announce it with trumpets, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and on the streets, to be honored by others. Truly I tell you, they have received their reward in full. 3 But when you give to the needy, do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing, 4 so that your giving may be in secret. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you. 5 "And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by others. Truly I tell you, they have received their reward in full. 6 But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you. 7 And when you pray, do not keep on babbling like pagans, for they think they will be heard because of their many words. 8 Do not be like them, for your Father knows what you need before you ask him.

kingoomieiii: "LIFE IS WASTED WITHOUT JESUS" isn't hateful? If you don't believe in Jesus, you're wasting your life?

No, its stating an opinion.

If I wear a tshirt saying 'Go play outside, video games lead to a wasted life', is that hateful?

I had to wear tape over my "I'm Bart Simpson, who the Hell are you?" shirt, that's how far back I go.

My life is wasted with Jesus.

kingoomieiii: Yeah, messages of hope are almost always combative and belittling.

Would a shirt reading "Muslims... ugh" be okay? I mean, it's not HATEFUL, it's just an expression of mild distaste. BARELY offensive.

But the message didn't single out any specific group, he said that without yoshke, your life is wasted.

the same as saying 'life without islam is wasted'

This is not hateful in any way you ninnies.

The My Little Pony Killer: And Tats? Saying "Your life is wasted without MY religion/savior/cheesecake" IS hateful, you blind fool.

Seriously, what in the god damned fark is so hard to understand about this?

Tatsuma: kingoomieiii: Yeah, messages of hope are almost always combative and belittling.

Would a shirt reading "Muslims... ugh" be okay? I mean, it's not HATEFUL, it's just an expression of mild distaste. BARELY offensive.

But the message didn't single out any specific group, he said that without yoshke, your life is wasted.

the same as saying 'life without islam is wasted'

This is not hateful in any way you ninnies.

Are you telling me they wouldn't send the kid wearing "God is a waste of time" right the hell outside?

Yeah nothing hateful with 'Hitler was right' or 'Black people should be slaves'

I hope you're trolling otherwise there is no curing that brand of stupidity

kingoomieiii: Are you telling me they wouldn't send the kid wearing "God is a waste of time" right the hell outside?

this is canada, absolutely not.

Tatsuma: Yeah nothing hateful with 'Hitler was right' or 'Black people should be slaves'

I hope you're trolling otherwise there is no curing that brand of stupidity

Yeah nothing hateful with 'Your life is pointless if you don't agree with me'

I hope you're trolling otherwise there is no curing that brand of stupidity

The My Little Pony Killer: superdolfan1: And neither have you. Read Matthew 6 in its entirety and then get back to me as to what verses 5-7 actually say. And no, it has nothing to do with closets.

/Hates it when atheists take Matt. 6:5 out of context

Taken directly from KJV:

6:5= And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.
6:6= But thou, when thou prayest, enter into they closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to they Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly.

Bible disagrees with you, sparky.

Again, I say, read the entire chapter, not just the two verses. Atheists/Agnostics/Freethinkers/et al enjoy taking those two verses out of context and use it to solidify their argument against public prayer.

Guess I'll have to have a brief Sunday School lesson here for those who are to lazy to read the entire chapter. Jesus, like the rest of us, hated disliked hypocrites, especially those who wore their faith on their sleeves, like the Pharisees. He felt prayer needed to be sincere, not an act of showmanship, which is what the Pharisees seemed to do every chance they got.

Matthew 6 talks about hypocrisy in giving to the poor, praying, fasting, etc. and was directed at those who do it to bring attention to themselves, instead of what it's really for, which is to glorify the Father. Romans 14:11 reads "As certainly as I live, declares the Lord, every knee will bow to me, and every tongue will praise God.". Obviously somebody will be in a public place when this takes place.

And yes, the closet part is being used as a metaphor in Matt. 6:5-7.

Tatsuma: kingoomieiii: Are you telling me they wouldn't send the kid wearing "God is a waste of time" right the hell outside?

this is canada, absolutely not.

They should, because as correct as the shirt is, he's being an adversarial douche wearing it to class. You know, particularly by day 10 of the shirt.

Tatsuma: Yeah nothing hateful with 'Hitler was right' or 'Black people should be slaves'

I hope you're trolling otherwise there is no curing that brand of stupidity

According to your own words earlier, it's not hateful because it's stating an opinion.

kingoomieiii: Yeah nothing hateful with 'Your life is pointless if you don't agree with me'

Do you even know what the word 'hateful' means?

DammitIForgotMyLogin: According to your own words earlier, it's not hateful because it's stating an opinion.

BECAUSE ITS NOT A HATEFUL OPINION, UNLIKE SAYING ALL BLACK PEOPLE SHOULD BE SLAVE


What the fark is wrong with you people?

superdolfan1: like the rest of us, hated disliked hypocrites, especially those who wore their faith on their sleeves, like the Pharisees.

Hey!

Praying in a minyan in synagogue is an actual requirement in Judaism.

As far as that whole passage, explain mega-churches to me.

Tatsuma: DammitIForgotMyLogin: According to your own words earlier, it's not hateful because it's stating an opinion.

BECAUSE ITS NOT A HATEFUL OPINION, UNLIKE SAYING ALL BLACK PEOPLE SHOULD BE SLAVE


What the fark is wrong with you people?

We're sick of being told that not having an invisible friend makes us worthless?

superdolfan1: Again, I say, read the entire chapter, not just the two verses. Atheists/Agnostics/Freethinkers/et al enjoy taking those two verses out of context and use it to solidify their argument against public prayer.

The entire chapter is an almost prescient condemnation of modern Christians. Why are you still digging this hole?