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(Right Wing Watch)   Remember David Barton's appearance this week on The Daily Show? When he spoke about a five year old who was yelled at by a teacher for praying before eating his lunch in the school cafeteria? Yeah, about that   (rightwingwatch.org) divider line 192
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2012-05-03 12:01:25 PM  
christians citing ancient myths to support their social ideology? i don't believe it!
 
2012-05-03 12:27:33 PM  
Link

Yes Yes, this sort of thing never happens.
 
2012-05-03 12:28:04 PM  
"I can tell you he was not reprimanded for praying," said Kenneth Brostron, the school's lawyer. "Do you think it makes sense that the teachers would look around the cafeteria and target the one student who was praying quietly at his seat?"

can't see how to argue with that. what teacher doesn't love to get a second of quiet from his/her students?
 
2012-05-03 12:28:59 PM  
Eh, what's one more lie to push the "Help help, we're being oppressed!" card.
 
2012-05-03 12:29:48 PM  
Way to bear false witness there big guy. Is there a single commandment right wing Xians actually keep?
 
2012-05-03 12:30:11 PM  
Their big evidence that "Christianity is under constant attack" is a 20-year-old urban legend?

Yeah, sounds about right.
 
2012-05-03 12:30:14 PM  
Dear David Barton,

You're not helping. Please sit down and shut the fark up.

Signed,
Not being and never have been persecuted Christians (which is all of us in America)
 
2012-05-03 12:30:59 PM  
But it feels true.
 
2012-05-03 12:31:26 PM  
Oh cool, a Christian conservative bashing thread. we haven't had one of those in a good five minutes.
 
2012-05-03 12:31:53 PM  

whither_apophis: bear false witness

 
2012-05-03 12:32:11 PM  

duffblue: Oh cool, a Christian conservative bashing thread. we haven't had one of those in a good five minutes.


You sound oppressed.
 
2012-05-03 12:32:29 PM  
Jon Stewart and other people interviewing these things need to keep a laptop on their desks, bookmarked to snopes.com.

That would nip all this happy horsesht right in the bud.
 
2012-05-03 12:32:43 PM  

whither_apophis: Way to bear false witness there big guy. Is there a single commandment right wing Xians actually keep?


Wasn't there one about praying loudly on the street corners so that everyone can see how devout you are? They keep that one.
 
2012-05-03 12:32:49 PM  
The worst of these apocryphal stories is the one about the guy who somehow got dosed in sodium and was taken to the emergency room to have all his skin removed because his sweat was setting off 2 foot flames.
 
2012-05-03 12:33:16 PM  

PlatinumDragon: duffblue: Oh cool, a Christian conservative bashing thread. we haven't had one of those in a good five minutes.

You sound oppressed.


No, he's just realized the important thing is finding a way to feel superior to both sides.
 
2012-05-03 12:34:01 PM  

Contents Under Pressure: Jon Stewart and other people interviewing these things need to keep a laptop on their desks, bookmarked to snopes.com.

That would nip all this happy horsesht right in the bud.


i dunno, i got a pretty convincing email that said that snopes is run by a couple of liberals.
 
2012-05-03 12:34:09 PM  

LowbrowDeluxe: PlatinumDragon: duffblue: Oh cool, a Christian conservative bashing thread. we haven't had one of those in a good five minutes.

You sound oppressed.

No, he's just realized the important thing is finding a way to feel superior to both sides.


Almost as if... both sides are bad... so... ?
 
2012-05-03 12:34:25 PM  
Gee, a "christian" lied.

Color me shocked....
 
2012-05-03 12:34:32 PM  
Um, most anecdotal stories levied by politicians (or other folks with an agenda to push) are extremely exaggerated and/or completely made up.
 
2012-05-03 12:34:59 PM  

She comes in colors everywhere: whither_apophis: bear false witness


It's like arming bears per the 2nd Amendment.
 
2012-05-03 12:35:45 PM  

duffblue: Oh cool, a Christian conservative bashing thread. we haven't had one of those in a good five minutes.


It's a liberal plot. They force David Barton to repeatedly base his work on discredited myths and urban legends.
 
2012-05-03 12:36:06 PM  
One of the main problems (that is, retardants to human life advancing) is that there is, by necessity, an anti-intellectual bias to evangelicalism, which is an emotionally based movement from the late 19th century. The fact that non-political (read: agnostic) religion is fairly new (and will hopefully advance) is also there.

But we are still stuck with willfully ignorant numbnuts that prop up this endless circus tent of BS, demanding that they become ringleaders for a bunch of clowns.
 
2012-05-03 12:36:19 PM  

Contents Under Pressure: Jon Stewart and other people interviewing these things need to keep a laptop on their desks, bookmarked to snopes.com.

That would nip all this happy horsesht right in the bud.


Right, because nothing keeps an interview zipping along like stopping it every 2 minutes with "hang on, let me Google that", followed by 4 minutes of silent surfing by the host.
 
2012-05-03 12:36:43 PM  
also, in before helpimbeingpersecuted.jpg
 
2012-05-03 12:36:48 PM  

Contents Under Pressure: Jon Stewart and other people interviewing these things need to keep a laptop on their desks, bookmarked to snopes.com.

That would nip all this happy horsesht right in the bud.


My Right-Wing Nutjob Co-Worker claims that snopes is just a Soros-owned leftist website meant to undermine 'Merika.
 
2012-05-03 12:36:50 PM  

PlatinumDragon: LowbrowDeluxe: PlatinumDragon: duffblue: Oh cool, a Christian conservative bashing thread. we haven't had one of those in a good five minutes.

You sound oppressed.

No, he's just realized the important thing is finding a way to feel superior to both sides.

Almost as if... both sides are bad... so... ?


He fixes the cable? Wait, that's not right

Um, Sarah Palin is automatically President? Sort of seems to fit, but...

Your argument is invalid (because my hair is a bird)?

Damnit, it's on the tip of my tongue. Both sides are bad so something something.
 
2012-05-03 12:37:08 PM  

She comes in colors everywhere: whither_apophis: bear false witness


02varvara.files.wordpress.com

I saw the whole thing. He was just sitting there praying, and the teacher body-slammed him for it.
 
2012-05-03 12:37:34 PM  

duffblue: Oh cool, a Christian conservative bashing thread. we haven't had one of those in a good five minutes.


Take your religion back from those that give good reason to bash it and it'll stop. Until then your religion needs bashing and every sheep that complacently follows it.
 
2012-05-03 12:38:03 PM  

DontMakeMeComeBackThere: Contents Under Pressure: Jon Stewart and other people interviewing these things need to keep a laptop on their desks, bookmarked to snopes.com.

That would nip all this happy horsesht right in the bud.

Right, because nothing keeps an interview zipping along like stopping it every 2 minutes with "hang on, let me Google that", followed by 4 minutes of silent surfing by the host.


the producer could be on it, tho
 
2012-05-03 12:38:07 PM  

Contents Under Pressure: Jon Stewart and other people interviewing these things need to keep a laptop on their desks, bookmarked to snopes.com.

That would nip all this happy horsesht right in the bud.


Snopes search, Raymond Raines:

"Sorry, no matches were found containing raymond raines."

They're good and all, but relying on them to be your one source of information is just as bad as relying on chain e-mails. Hell, they say so themselves.
 
2012-05-03 12:38:28 PM  

DontMakeMeComeBackThere: Contents Under Pressure: Jon Stewart and other people interviewing these things need to keep a laptop on their desks, bookmarked to snopes.com.

That would nip all this happy horsesht right in the bud.

Right, because nothing keeps an interview zipping along like stopping it every 2 minutes with "hang on, let me Google that", followed by 4 minutes of silent surfing by the host.


That's what unpaid research interns, earpieces, and directors are for.
 
2012-05-03 12:38:36 PM  

Almet: My Right-Wing Nutjob Co-Worker claims that snopes is just a Soros-owned leftist website meant to undermine 'Merika.


Yikes. So does my mom...and and she BARELY grasps the internet.


/yeah, yeah - mom, grasps, I get it...
 
2012-05-03 12:39:07 PM  
You know, if your beliefs are good on their own, then why do you have to make up shiat about them? Aren't accurate and true anecdotes good enough?

/well, maybe they aren't if you have to make up shiat . . .
 
2012-05-03 12:39:10 PM  
Christians and right wingers have a policy of spreading "good" lies to help their arguments. They're proud of this and see it as a valid tactic.
 
2012-05-03 12:39:52 PM  
GOP/Christians/Tea Party definition of a fact:

#1 If it supports their pre-determined position it is true
#2 If it doesn't support their position it is not true
 
2012-05-03 12:40:22 PM  

Clemkadidlefark: Link

Yes Yes, this sort of thing never happens.


Not sure of the point of that link... it's a documentary about the failures of the educational system.

What does that have to do with Christians lying for two decades in the press, to back up a situation that simply isn't happening?
 
2012-05-03 12:40:43 PM  
"But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you." Matthew 6:6
 
2012-05-03 12:40:50 PM  
cafewitteveen.files.wordpress.com

/oblig
 
2012-05-03 12:41:18 PM  
Really, all you have to do in order to disprove Barton is, well... read. The Library of Congress has "The Jefferson Papers", which consists of 27,000 documents written by Jefferson. All you have to do is read them. In it, you'll find that Jefferson considered himself not Christian, but "Deist". You'll also find his revulsion for organized religion, but more entertaining is you'll find his opinions on pre-revolution France. Quite a few similarities to what's going on in the US today.

I'm not going to quote any of them. I'm just going to say that while 27,000 documents is certainly daunting, all you have to do is read them.

Barton, I might note, has already had to rescind "citations" he's used in the past. He is not known for, shall we say, honesty or facts. Again, all it takes is a small amount of reading and searching. The man is full of shiat.
 
2012-05-03 12:41:19 PM  
My religion tells me to pray by putting my fists in your eye sockets. Why are you against prayer?
 
2012-05-03 12:41:51 PM  

Doc Daneeka: Their big evidence that "Christianity is under constant attack" is a 20-year-old urban legend?

Yeah, sounds about right.


It is under constant attacks, they're call logic, reasoning, and common sense. And don't you know they're trying to teach those threats in school! They aren't doing very well, but they're trying.
 
2012-05-03 12:42:27 PM  

rudemix: duffblue: Oh cool, a Christian conservative bashing thread. we haven't had one of those in a good five minutes.

Take your religion back from those that give good reason to bash it and it'll stop. Until then your religion needs bashing and every sheep that complacently follows it.


The same could be said about Judaism and Islam but dat's racist!
 
2012-05-03 12:42:37 PM  
Yup, officials from the school accused of wrongdoing deny said wrongdoing. Case closed.
 
2012-05-03 12:43:43 PM  

HotWingConspiracy: Christians and right wingers have a policy of spreading "good" lies to help their arguments. They're proud of this and see it as a valid tactic.


Do not lump all Christians in with Right Wingers.
 
2012-05-03 12:44:24 PM  

DontMakeMeComeBackThere: Contents Under Pressure: Jon Stewart and other people interviewing these things need to keep a laptop on their desks, bookmarked to snopes.com.

That would nip all this happy horsesht right in the bud.

Right, because nothing keeps an interview zipping along like stopping it every 2 minutes with "hang on, let me Google that", followed by 4 minutes of silent surfing by the host.


That's what interns are for...

"Wait a minute David, we've got a yellow card from the sideline."
 
2012-05-03 12:44:29 PM  
Wait a minute. I'm not sure whether this happened or not. The kid says it was because he was praying. The school's lawyer said it was because the kid was fighting. Why are people quick to believe a lawyer over the kid?
 
2012-05-03 12:44:35 PM  
Back in middle school a number of my friends were VERY Christian. And knowing that I was an atheist, they would get very upset that "Atheists like you don't let us pray in school!".

To which I let them know I didn't have a problem with their private prayers, what I had a problem was with teacher-led prayers and encouraged them to pray before their lunches and to notice that no one would stop them.

After a couple of school lunch prayers, they realized they were wrong and shut up about it after that.
 
2012-05-03 12:44:45 PM  

MisterLoki: But it feels true.


Yes, exactly!

While the incident may not have literally happened as described, it is sadly totally plausible that it *could* have happened. That's the real issue.

Welcome to the sharia nightmare of Taxbongo's America.
 
2012-05-03 12:45:05 PM  
oh sure subby. next thing you are going to tell me that the gideons he mentioned getting arrested for "not having a parade permit" were really just being loud and obnoxious asshats that wouldn't move or leave when asked politely by the police
 
2012-05-03 12:45:07 PM  

duffblue: Oh cool, a Christian conservative bashing thread. we haven't had one of those in a good five minutes.


5 minutes too long
 
2012-05-03 12:46:39 PM  

mitchcumstein1: HotWingConspiracy: Christians and right wingers have a policy of spreading "good" lies to help their arguments. They're proud of this and see it as a valid tactic.

Do not lump all Christians in with Right Wingers.


Virgin Mary.
 
2012-05-03 12:47:41 PM  

Citrate1007: mitchcumstein1: HotWingConspiracy: Christians and right wingers have a policy of spreading "good" lies to help their arguments. They're proud of this and see it as a valid tactic.

Do not lump all Christians in with Right Wingers.

Virgin Mary.


Not all Christians believe that.
 
2012-05-03 12:48:17 PM  

sex0r: Yup, officials from the school accused of wrongdoing deny said wrongdoing. Case closed.

"Do you think it makes sense that the teachers would look around the cafeteria and target the one student who was praying quietly at his seat?"

 
2012-05-03 12:48:56 PM  

12349876: My religion tells me to pray by putting my fists in your eye sockets. Why are you against prayer?


Were you on the "Event Horizon"?
 
mhd
2012-05-03 12:49:08 PM  
I sorta felt bad when I saw the interview, because the minute Barton opened his mouth and I heard his accent, I thought "This won't go well...".

/I should start Wikipedia'ing the guests as soon as they're mentioned, to see whether we've got actual scientists or serious jouranlists, or just politicians, pundits and preachers.
 
2012-05-03 12:49:33 PM  

Contents Under Pressure: Jon Stewart and other people interviewing these things need to keep a laptop on their desks, bookmarked to snopes.com.

That would nip all this happy horsesht right in the bud.


They don't even need to do that. Much of what David Barton says are outright lies. For example, he continues to attribute quotes to Jefferson that Jefferson never said, even after being corrected on them.
 
2012-05-03 12:51:07 PM  

mitchcumstein1: Citrate1007: mitchcumstein1: HotWingConspiracy: Christians and right wingers have a policy of spreading "good" lies to help their arguments. They're proud of this and see it as a valid tactic.

Do not lump all Christians in with Right Wingers.

Virgin Mary.

Not all Christians believe that.



Not all Christians believe in Christ either.
 
2012-05-03 12:51:09 PM  
I think most theists would be left alone if they quit spreading lies and kept thy religion to thy self.

/...and stay the fark off my lawn. Go talk to some snakes or something.
 
2012-05-03 12:51:48 PM  

Disposable Rob: Contents Under Pressure: Jon Stewart and other people interviewing these things need to keep a laptop on their desks, bookmarked to snopes.com.

That would nip all this happy horsesht right in the bud.

They don't even need to do that. Much of what David Barton says are outright lies. For example, he continues to attribute quotes to Jefferson that Jefferson never said, even after being corrected on them.


Don't try to slow him down with facts.
 
2012-05-03 12:51:53 PM  

SweetSilverBlues: Dear David Barton,

You're not helping. Please sit down and shut the fark up.

Signed,
Not being and never have been persecuted Christians (which is all of us in America)


Tell that to a friend of my mother's.

She had the gall to say she was being persecuted for her Christian beliefs by the rest of her family (possible Native American, she never would say what religion they were or if they were atheists) after her dad died.

I strongly suspect she was being obnoxious (because it's her style) and was asked to either stop or tone it down.

So, as a note to religious people everywhere. Being asked to tone it done is not persecution.

Being asked to leave my front porch is not persecution.

Ok, I usually have the Mormon boys do some yard work with me. They can pull weeds for the Lord, I can have my work load slightly lessened. It's a win/win. Last time I gave them quite a few ears of sweet corn too to take back and share with the rest of the missionaries.
 
2012-05-03 12:51:58 PM  

sex0r: Yup, officials from the school accused of wrongdoing deny said wrongdoing. Case closed.


10 year old snowflake claims something improbable... IT'S GOT TO BE TRUE!
 
2012-05-03 12:52:24 PM  

GungFu: Not all Christians believe in Christ either.


Wat?
 
2012-05-03 12:54:21 PM  
Nothing like the two democrats practicing eugenics in SC Link
 
2012-05-03 12:56:29 PM  
At what point will people just go ahead and actually persecute Christians? I mean, if you're gonna be accused of it no matter what you do you might as well get your money's worth out of it, right?
 
2012-05-03 12:56:41 PM  

unchellmatt: Really, all you have to do in order to disprove Barton is, well... read. The Library of Congress has "The Jefferson Papers", which consists of 27,000 documents written by Jefferson. All you have to do is read them. In it, you'll find that Jefferson considered himself not Christian, but "Deist". You'll also find his revulsion for organized religion, but more entertaining is you'll find his opinions on pre-revolution France. Quite a few similarities to what's going on in the US today.


Barton said, very clearly, in the interview that Jefferson abhorred most organized religion.
 
2012-05-03 12:57:00 PM  

ph0rk: GungFu: Not all Christians believe in Christ either.

Wat?


It has been my experience that some self identified "christians", neither attend church, have ever read the bible, or know the 10 commandments. These "christians" tend to be politicians and anti-XXXX folks.
 
2012-05-03 12:57:51 PM  

meat0918: SweetSilverBlues: Dear David Barton,

You're not helping. Please sit down and shut the fark up.

Signed,
Not being and never have been persecuted Christians (which is all of us in America)

Tell that to a friend of my mother's.

She had the gall to say she was being persecuted for her Christian beliefs by the rest of her family (possible Native American, she never would say what religion they were or if they were atheists) after her dad died.

I strongly suspect she was being obnoxious (because it's her style) and was asked to either stop or tone it down.

So, as a note to religious people everywhere. Being asked to tone it done is not persecution.

Being asked to leave my front porch is not persecution.

Ok, I usually have the Mormon boys do some yard work with me. They can pull weeds for the Lord, I can have my work load slightly lessened. It's a win/win. Last time I gave them quite a few ears of sweet corn too to take back and share with the rest of the missionaries.


No matter how many times I've looked, and how many times I've asked, I cannot find where in the Bible it says:

Go forth and trumpet the name of the LORD, for He wishes to be glorified and His WORD spread through the braying of asses.

Amen.
 
2012-05-03 01:00:46 PM  
blog.amsvans.com

"Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn. Amen."
 
2012-05-03 01:01:27 PM  

sex0r: Yup, officials from the school accused of wrongdoing deny said wrongdoing. Case closed.

 
2012-05-03 01:01:35 PM  
I thought we weren't supposed to take it seriously because its a comedy show.
 
2012-05-03 01:01:43 PM  

Byno: PlatinumDragon: LowbrowDeluxe: PlatinumDragon: duffblue: Oh cool, a Christian conservative bashing thread. we haven't had one of those in a good five minutes.

You sound oppressed.

No, he's just realized the important thing is finding a way to feel superior to both sides.

Almost as if... both sides are bad... so... ?

He fixes the cable? Wait, that's not right

Um, Sarah Palin is automatically President? Sort of seems to fit, but...

Your argument is invalid (because my hair is a bird)?

Damnit, it's on the tip of my tongue. Both sides are bad so something something.


Go crazy?
 
2012-05-03 01:02:25 PM  
Turn him over to the Romans, they'll take care of him.
 
2012-05-03 01:03:46 PM  

meat0918: Ok, I usually have the Mormon boys do some yard work with me. They can pull weeds for the Lord, I can have my work load slightly lessened.


I see what you did there. You're just trying to mess up their suits with sweat and dirt.
 
2012-05-03 01:04:14 PM  
In Barton's defense, let's face it, Christians aren't exactly all that familiar with, or interested in things that are true. Truth is not important to them.
 
2012-05-03 01:04:16 PM  

BadJazz: Go crazy?


Don't mind if I do!!!
 
2012-05-03 01:04:18 PM  

J. Frank Parnell: sex0r: Yup, officials from the school accused of wrongdoing deny said wrongdoing. Case closed.

"Do you think it makes sense that the teachers would look around the cafeteria and target the one student who was praying quietly at his seat?"


Does it make sense a teacher called an autistic kid a "bastard", or that a week doesn't go by without a story of a teacher sleeping with a student? What about the teacher that grabbed a student, shoved him under a desk, and told him that's what the Nazi's did to the Jews? You assume that all teachers are a bastion of reasonableness. That's not a good assumption.
 
2012-05-03 01:04:27 PM  
said Kenneth Brostron, the school's lawyer.

Ah, that must be the truth, then.
 
2012-05-03 01:04:28 PM  

BadJazz: Byno: PlatinumDragon: LowbrowDeluxe: PlatinumDragon: duffblue: Oh cool, a Christian conservative bashing thread. we haven't had one of those in a good five minutes.

You sound oppressed.

No, he's just realized the important thing is finding a way to feel superior to both sides.

Almost as if... both sides are bad... so... ?

He fixes the cable? Wait, that's not right

Um, Sarah Palin is automatically President? Sort of seems to fit, but...

Your argument is invalid (because my hair is a bird)?

Damnit, it's on the tip of my tongue. Both sides are bad so something something.

Go crazy?


humordistrict.com

Don't mind if I do!
 
2012-05-03 01:05:12 PM  

duffblue: The same could be said about Judaism and Islam but dat's racist!


Show me the fundy Jews and Moslems in any western democracy who are in political power and who are attempting to bend the morality and the laws of that nation based upon the dictates of their scripture.

You can't. They don't exist.

Go play your "poor poor me." card somewhere else where it's not such an obvious lie.
 
2012-05-03 01:05:37 PM  

Allen. The end.: 12349876: My religion tells me to pray by putting my fists in your eye sockets. Why are you against prayer?

Were you on the "Event Horizon"?


Several escape pods were jettisoned.
 
2012-05-03 01:05:43 PM  
Also, this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cku497rURF8
 
2012-05-03 01:06:17 PM  
Meh not the weirdest Christian persecution fantasy I've heard. I think the one that takes the cake is Jess LaVey who was claiming to be Anton LaVey's son and renounced the church of Satan. He had all these stories about what Anton did to groom him to take over the church of Satan and it all was bull shiat.

Is he still out there selling his crap to Christians?
 
2012-05-03 01:09:07 PM  

theorellior: meat0918: Ok, I usually have the Mormon boys do some yard work with me. They can pull weeds for the Lord, I can have my work load slightly lessened.

I see what you did there. You're just trying to mess up their suits with sweat and dirt.


They offered to do service work, so I let them.

They haven't been back since. We were getting them every 3-6 months for 3 years, after having them work; no more missionaries.

We'll see if the trend continues this summer.

SweetSilverBlues: No matter how many times I've looked, and how many times I've asked, I cannot find where in the Bible it says:

Go forth and trumpet the name of the LORD, for He wishes to be glorified and His WORD spread through the braying of asses.

Amen.


Matthew 28:18-20
18 Then Jesus came to them and said, "All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. 19 Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, 20 and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age."


Close enough
 
2012-05-03 01:09:51 PM  

SweetSilverBlues: meat0918: SweetSilverBlues: Dear David Barton,

You're not helping. Please sit down and shut the fark up.

Signed,
Not being and never have been persecuted Christians (which is all of us in America)

Tell that to a friend of my mother's.

She had the gall to say she was being persecuted for her Christian beliefs by the rest of her family (possible Native American, she never would say what religion they were or if they were atheists) after her dad died.

I strongly suspect she was being obnoxious (because it's her style) and was asked to either stop or tone it down.

So, as a note to religious people everywhere. Being asked to tone it done is not persecution.

Being asked to leave my front porch is not persecution.

Ok, I usually have the Mormon boys do some yard work with me. They can pull weeds for the Lord, I can have my work load slightly lessened. It's a win/win. Last time I gave them quite a few ears of sweet corn too to take back and share with the rest of the missionaries.

No matter how many times I've looked, and how many times I've asked, I cannot find where in the Bible it says:

Go forth and trumpet the name of the LORD, for He wishes to be glorified and His WORD spread through the braying of asses.

Amen.


the book always has the answers. anything is justified by it if you look hard enough
 
2012-05-03 01:10:25 PM  

duffblue: rudemix: duffblue: Oh cool, a Christian conservative bashing thread. we haven't had one of those in a good five minutes.

Take your religion back from those that give good reason to bash it and it'll stop. Until then your religion needs bashing and every sheep that complacently follows it.

The same could be said about Judaism and Islam but dat's racist!


Strawman. I don't know any critic of religion that thinks jadaism or islam are any less bullshiat than christianity.
 
2012-05-03 01:11:23 PM  

PlatinumDragon: LowbrowDeluxe: PlatinumDragon: duffblue: Oh cool, a Christian conservative bashing thread. we haven't had one of those in a good five minutes.

You sound oppressed.

No, he's just realized the important thing is finding a way to feel superior to both sides.

Almost as if... both sides are bad... so... ?


Both sides are bad, so go fark yourself.
 
2012-05-03 01:11:58 PM  

drb9: Wait a minute. I'm not sure whether this happened or not. The kid says it was because he was praying. The school's lawyer said it was because the kid was fighting. Why are people quick to believe a lawyer over the kid?


Like the lawyer said, have you ever been a school cafeteria as an adult? You are not going to punish the one kid quietly praying.
 
2012-05-03 01:12:41 PM  

divgradcurl: gideo


Who are the farking Gideons?

/obscure?
 
2012-05-03 01:13:10 PM  
Lots of retractions today. It's almost like the news is trolling us for ratings. But nah, that would never happen.
 
2012-05-03 01:13:15 PM  
Most of the loudest self-proclaimed "Christians" are just Paulian pharisees run amok.
 
2012-05-03 01:13:40 PM  

manimal2878: duffblue: rudemix: duffblue: Oh cool, a Christian conservative bashing thread. we haven't had one of those in a good five minutes.

Take your religion back from those that give good reason to bash it and it'll stop. Until then your religion needs bashing and every sheep that complacently follows it.

The same could be said about Judaism and Islam but dat's racist!

Strawman. I don't know any critic of religion that thinks jadaism or islam are any less bullshiat than christianity.


www.realbollywood.com
 
2012-05-03 01:13:44 PM  
Wow...just like the lie in Roe Vs, Wade

/people lie
/all of them
 
2012-05-03 01:13:51 PM  

BadJazz: Byno: PlatinumDragon: LowbrowDeluxe: PlatinumDragon: duffblue: Oh cool, a Christian conservative bashing thread. we haven't had one of those in a good five minutes.

You sound oppressed.

No, he's just realized the important thing is finding a way to feel superior to both sides.

Almost as if... both sides are bad... so... ?

He fixes the cable? Wait, that's not right

Um, Sarah Palin is automatically President? Sort of seems to fit, but...

Your argument is invalid (because my hair is a bird)?

Damnit, it's on the tip of my tongue. Both sides are bad so something something.

Go crazy?


media.tumblr.com
Just because.
 
2012-05-03 01:14:50 PM  

GungFu: Not all Christians believe in Christ either.


um... by definition don't you have to believe there was a jesus in some form to be christian?
 
2012-05-03 01:15:01 PM  

whither_apophis: Way to bear false witness there big guy. Is there a single commandment right wing Xians actually keep?



Yes:

#11 - Thou shalt take all of Jesus' teachings, and behave as if it was Opposite Day.
 
2012-05-03 01:16:11 PM  
yert, meat0918, quoting on mobile is a pain, so "Stuff".

Yeah, that's the good and the bad thing about the Bible, is it's open to a variety of interpretations.

As an example, with meat's quote, I take that as talking to people who seek you out. Baptism without belief is worthless, and teaching (to me) implies voluntary pupils.

I don't get how anyone thinks they can show someone the glory of God by beating them about the head and shoulders with a Bible.

Osmosis?
 
2012-05-03 01:17:10 PM  

DontMakeMeComeBackThere: Um, most anecdotal stories levied by politicians (or other folks with an agenda to push) are extremely exaggerated and/or completely made up.


SO VOTE REPUBLICAN, AMIRITE?
 
2012-05-03 01:17:19 PM  

PeterPipersPickledPecker: manimal2878: duffblue: rudemix: duffblue: Oh cool, a Christian conservative bashing thread. we haven't had one of those in a good five minutes.

Take your religion back from those that give good reason to bash it and it'll stop. Until then your religion needs bashing and every sheep that complacently follows it.

The same could be said about Judaism and Islam but dat's racist!

Strawman. I don't know any critic of religion that thinks jadaism or islam are any less bullshiat than christianity.

[www.realbollywood.com image 293x400]


Who is that?
 
2012-05-03 01:18:49 PM  

swangoatman: Nothing like the two democrats practicing eugenics in SC Link


Did you stumble into the wrong thread?
 
2012-05-03 01:19:18 PM  

manimal2878: PeterPipersPickledPecker: manimal2878: duffblue: rudemix: duffblue: Oh cool, a Christian conservative bashing thread. we haven't had one of those in a good five minutes.

Take your religion back from those that give good reason to bash it and it'll stop. Until then your religion needs bashing and every sheep that complacently follows it.

The same could be said about Judaism and Islam but dat's racist!

Strawman. I don't know any critic of religion that thinks jadaism or islam are any less bullshiat than christianity.

[www.realbollywood.com image 293x400]

Who is that?



Jada Pinkett Smith
 
2012-05-03 01:20:53 PM  

SweetSilverBlues: yert, meat0918, quoting on mobile is a pain, so "Stuff".

Yeah, that's the good and the bad thing about the Bible, is it's open to a variety of interpretations.

As an example, with meat's quote, I take that as talking to people who seek you out. Baptism without belief is worthless, and teaching (to me) implies voluntary pupils.

I don't get how anyone thinks they can show someone the glory of God by beating them about the head and shoulders with a Bible.

Osmosis?


Honestly? Live it. Be a truly good person - compassionate, helpful, self-effacing, the whole nine yards. I have known a few people in my life who were such good people that I seriously considered whether their religion might worth looking into. But as far as I can tell, they're good people because they're good people, not because they're religious. They just happened to credit religion.
 
2012-05-03 01:21:17 PM  

duffblue: Oh cool, a Christian conservative bashing thread. we haven't had one of those in a good five minutes.


I know! You guys need to stop doing things that are so worthy of being bashed. Maybe making shiat up out of thin air as a justification for anything (religious activism, wars, passing legislation, election theft, etc.) isn't the best strategy. People tend to get sick of that crap after a while.
 
2012-05-03 01:22:43 PM  
Lies from christians ... what a strange and rare occurrence.
 
2012-05-03 01:22:53 PM  
What, nothing about the 8 year old girl being kicked off her bus for reading a rosary? That was big for awhile. Heck, I think fark had an article about it.
 
2012-05-03 01:23:03 PM  

thomps: christians citing ancient myths to support their social ideology? i don't believe it!


Thread over.
 
2012-05-03 01:24:01 PM  

ph0rk: Disposable Rob: Contents Under Pressure: Jon Stewart and other people interviewing these things need to keep a laptop on their desks, bookmarked to snopes.com.

That would nip all this happy horsesht right in the bud.

They don't even need to do that. Much of what David Barton says are outright lies. For example, he continues to attribute quotes to Jefferson that Jefferson never said, even after being corrected on them.

Don't try to slow him down with facts.


Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true.

\Homer Simpson
 
2012-05-03 01:24:47 PM  

I May Be Crazy But...: SweetSilverBlues: yert, meat0918, quoting on mobile is a pain, so "Stuff".

Yeah, that's the good and the bad thing about the Bible, is it's open to a variety of interpretations.

As an example, with meat's quote, I take that as talking to people who seek you out. Baptism without belief is worthless, and teaching (to me) implies voluntary pupils.

I don't get how anyone thinks they can show someone the glory of God by beating them about the head and shoulders with a Bible.

Osmosis?

Honestly? Live it. Be a truly good person - compassionate, helpful, self-effacing, the whole nine yards. I have known a few people in my life who were such good people that I seriously considered whether their religion might worth looking into. But as far as I can tell, they're good people because they're good people, not because they're religious. They just happened to credit religion.


Agreed.

I'm not claiming to be good people, but I try. My faith helps me. If someone asks me, I'll share. If they don't, they don't.

I hate brussel sprouts, too, but I'm not going to start randomly berating people who like them.
 
2012-05-03 01:25:35 PM  
I for one welcome the rapture... can you imagine how much better the world would be without all these extremist, child-raping, hypocritical, Jew-worshipping, snake-oil-pushing, Earth-trashing, racist, misogynist Christians? I would consider supporting muslin turrists if they were careful to only target Christians.
 
2012-05-03 01:27:30 PM  
Politics is largely the art of using what people cherish or fear to control them. Truth to them is a tool...it's only used when needed.
 
2012-05-03 01:27:31 PM  

SweetSilverBlues: I May Be Crazy But...: SweetSilverBlues: yert, meat0918, quoting on mobile is a pain, so "Stuff".

Yeah, that's the good and the bad thing about the Bible, is it's open to a variety of interpretations.

As an example, with meat's quote, I take that as talking to people who seek you out. Baptism without belief is worthless, and teaching (to me) implies voluntary pupils.

I don't get how anyone thinks they can show someone the glory of God by beating them about the head and shoulders with a Bible.

Osmosis?

Honestly? Live it. Be a truly good person - compassionate, helpful, self-effacing, the whole nine yards. I have known a few people in my life who were such good people that I seriously considered whether their religion might worth looking into. But as far as I can tell, they're good people because they're good people, not because they're religious. They just happened to credit religion.

Agreed.

I'm not claiming to be good people, but I try. My faith helps me. If someone asks me, I'll share. If they don't, they don't.

I hate brussel sprouts, too, but I'm not going to start randomly berating people who like them.


Just don't lie to the media about a child being oppressed for eating them in a public school lunchroom and we have no problem...
 
2012-05-03 01:27:59 PM  

sex0r: J. Frank Parnell: sex0r: Yup, officials from the school accused of wrongdoing deny said wrongdoing. Case closed.

"Do you think it makes sense that the teachers would look around the cafeteria and target the one student who was praying quietly at his seat?"

Does it make sense a teacher called an autistic kid a "bastard", or that a week doesn't go by without a story of a teacher sleeping with a student? What about the teacher that grabbed a student, shoved him under a desk, and told him that's what the Nazi's did to the Jews? You assume that all teachers are a bastion of reasonableness. That's not a good assumption.


And we know those individual events are aberrations perpetrated by a few idiotic individuals. As opposed to the institutionalized persecution that Christians claim.
 
2012-05-03 01:29:07 PM  
If only Christians had a list of rules to live by, and perhaps one of them could commanded them not to do this sort of thing.
 
2012-05-03 01:30:41 PM  

PeterPipersPickledPecker: SweetSilverBlues: I May Be Crazy But...: SweetSilverBlues: yert, meat0918, quoting on mobile is a pain, so "Stuff".

Yeah, that's the good and the bad thing about the Bible, is it's open to a variety of interpretations.

As an example, with meat's quote, I take that as talking to people who seek you out. Baptism without belief is worthless, and teaching (to me) implies voluntary pupils.

I don't get how anyone thinks they can show someone the glory of God by beating them about the head and shoulders with a Bible.

Osmosis?

Honestly? Live it. Be a truly good person - compassionate, helpful, self-effacing, the whole nine yards. I have known a few people in my life who were such good people that I seriously considered whether their religion might worth looking into. But as far as I can tell, they're good people because they're good people, not because they're religious. They just happened to credit religion.

Agreed.

I'm not claiming to be good people, but I try. My faith helps me. If someone asks me, I'll share. If they don't, they don't.

I hate brussel sprouts, too, but I'm not going to start randomly berating people who like them.

Just don't lie to the media about a child being oppressed for eating them in a public school lunchroom and we have no problem...


Good point, people who don't like brussel spouts should be encouraged. That way, they get cheaper and I can eat more.

Roasted, with a little salt and pepper and olive oil... mmm...
 
2012-05-03 01:32:05 PM  
Barton's anecdote was very obviously false when he said it, and anyone who couldn't see that is suffering from severe cognitive impairment.
 
2012-05-03 01:33:32 PM  

duffblue: Oh cool, a Christian conservative bashing thread. we haven't had one of those in a good five minutes.


Here's a deal for you: You get the "Christian" conservatives to stop doing stupid (and evil, can't forget all the downright evil stuff they do) stuff and we'll quit making fun of them.
 
2012-05-03 01:33:56 PM  

PeterPipersPickledPecker: manimal2878: PeterPipersPickledPecker: manimal2878: duffblue: rudemix: duffblue: Oh cool, a Christian conservative bashing thread. we haven't had one of those in a good five minutes.

Take your religion back from those that give good reason to bash it and it'll stop. Until then your religion needs bashing and every sheep that complacently follows it.

The same could be said about Judaism and Islam but dat's racist!

Strawman. I don't know any critic of religion that thinks jadaism or islam are any less bullshiat than christianity.

[www.realbollywood.com image 293x400]

Who is that?


Jada Pinkett Smith


Why is she relevant
?
 
2012-05-03 01:34:25 PM  
If the teacher disciplined him for praying then the teacher violated his constitutional rights and will end up with a judgment against her. If she didn't, then it's not. That's why the court system exists, to determine what happened and if any laws were violated. It's stupid to say that because someone did something unlawful that we need to change the laws and that Christianity is under attack from the left. It may be that individuals attack Christianity sometimes, and they are held to account for doing so if their actions are unlawful. It has nothing to do with "public policy". The whole thing is a red herring in that even if it's true, it does not support the conclusions that the author is drawing.
 
2012-05-03 01:35:35 PM  

Doc Daneeka: Their big evidence that "Christianity is under constant attack" is a 20-year-old urban legend?


And when they got out of the car, there were two hooks on the door handle, clasped as if in prayer!
 
2012-05-03 01:35:36 PM  

Clemkadidlefark: Link

Yes Yes, this sort of thing never happens.


Aside: I like your screen ID 'cuz I think I know where it came from ...
 
2012-05-03 01:36:41 PM  

I May Be Crazy But...: PeterPipersPickledPecker: SweetSilverBlues: I May Be Crazy But...: SweetSilverBlues: yert, meat0918, quoting on mobile is a pain, so "Stuff".

Yeah, that's the good and the bad thing about the Bible, is it's open to a variety of interpretations.

As an example, with meat's quote, I take that as talking to people who seek you out. Baptism without belief is worthless, and teaching (to me) implies voluntary pupils.

I don't get how anyone thinks they can show someone the glory of God by beating them about the head and shoulders with a Bible.

Osmosis?

Honestly? Live it. Be a truly good person - compassionate, helpful, self-effacing, the whole nine yards. I have known a few people in my life who were such good people that I seriously considered whether their religion might worth looking into. But as far as I can tell, they're good people because they're good people, not because they're religious. They just happened to credit religion.

Agreed.

I'm not claiming to be good people, but I try. My faith helps me. If someone asks me, I'll share. If they don't, they don't.

I hate brussel sprouts, too, but I'm not going to start randomly berating people who like them.

Just don't lie to the media about a child being oppressed for eating them in a public school lunchroom and we have no problem...

Good point, people who don't like brussel spouts should be encouraged. That way, they get cheaper and I can eat more.

Roasted, with a little salt and pepper and olive oil... mmm...


I May Be Crazy But...you are of the unclean. I must purify you through fire.

Salt and pepper and olive oil are optional.
 
2012-05-03 01:36:47 PM  

downpaymentblues: unchellmatt: Really, all you have to do in order to disprove Barton is, well... read. The Library of Congress has "The Jefferson Papers", which consists of 27,000 documents written by Jefferson. All you have to do is read them. In it, you'll find that Jefferson considered himself not Christian, but "Deist". You'll also find his revulsion for organized religion, but more entertaining is you'll find his opinions on pre-revolution France. Quite a few similarities to what's going on in the US today.

Barton said, very clearly, in the interview that Jefferson abhorred most organized religion.


I'll listen to the interview. After reading his more discredited work, as well as his back pedal regarding these mysterious "sources" of information, I've written him off as a mindless quack. Certainly willing to give the man a chance to put forward his opinion.
 
2012-05-03 01:37:52 PM  

manimal2878: PeterPipersPickledPecker: manimal2878: PeterPipersPickledPecker: manimal2878: duffblue: rudemix: duffblue: Oh cool, a Christian conservative bashing thread. we haven't had one of those in a good five minutes.

Take your religion back from those that give good reason to bash it and it'll stop. Until then your religion needs bashing and every sheep that complacently follows it.

The same could be said about Judaism and Islam but dat's racist!

Strawman. I don't know any critic of religion that thinks jadaism or islam are any less bullshiat than christianity.

[www.realbollywood.com image 293x400]

Who is that?


Jada Pinkett Smith

Why is she relevant
?


Because of the bolded spelling error in the previous posts.

www.wired.com
 
2012-05-03 01:38:57 PM  

Doc Daneeka: Their big evidence that "Christianity is under constant attack" is a 20-year-old urban legend?

Yeah, sounds about right.


I can think of a 2,000-year-old ubran legend they're pretty fond of as well.
 
2012-05-03 01:41:17 PM  

bigbadideasinaction: Doc Daneeka: Their big evidence that "Christianity is under constant attack" is a 20-year-old urban legend?

Yeah, sounds about right.

I can think of a 2,000-year-old ubran legend they're pretty fond of as well.


southparkstudios.mtvnimages.com
Hates brussel sprouts
 
2012-05-03 01:43:29 PM  

Huck And Molly Ziegler: Clemkadidlefark: Link

Yes Yes, this sort of thing never happens.

Aside: I like your screen ID 'cuz I think I know where it came from ...


Are you implying he might have a skelton in his closet?
 
2012-05-03 01:45:54 PM  

Citrate1007: mitchcumstein1: HotWingConspiracy: Christians and right wingers have a policy of spreading "good" lies to help their arguments. They're proud of this and see it as a valid tactic.

Do not lump all Christians in with Right Wingers.

Virgin Mary.


Bloody Mary's for everyone! Umm...I'd like mine with Absolute please.
 
2012-05-03 01:47:01 PM  

SweetSilverBlues: yert, meat0918, quoting on mobile is a pain, so "Stuff".

Yeah, that's the good and the bad thing about the Bible, is it's open to a variety of interpretations.

As an example, with meat's quote, I take that as talking to people who seek you out. Baptism without belief is worthless, and teaching (to me) implies voluntary pupils.

I don't get how anyone thinks they can show someone the glory of God by beating them about the head and shoulders with a Bible.

Osmosis?


Honest to God, they told me if their witnessing made me feel warm and fuzzy and good, that was the Holy Spirit talking to me and telling me it what was being said was true.

//It doesn't make me warm and fuzzy. I guess the Spirit doesn't like me.
 
2012-05-03 01:47:10 PM  

PeterPipersPickledPecker: bigbadideasinaction: Doc Daneeka: Their big evidence that "Christianity is under constant attack" is a 20-year-old urban legend?

Yeah, sounds about right.

I can think of a 2,000-year-old ubran legend they're pretty fond of as well.


Hates brussel sprouts


*SNRK!*

Hee hee hee hee hee hee...
 
2012-05-03 01:49:34 PM  

duffblue: Oh cool, a Christian conservative bashing thread. we haven't had one of those in a good five minutes.


I'm a Roman Catholic, and a reasonably observant one, You know who keeps submitting all those headlines about bad stuff the RC church does that often create church bashing threads? I do. You Know why? Because the church DESERVES some kicking around when they pull some of the awful shiat they do,

Those who claim to support something, especially an institution that wants to impose its morality on others should be the FIRST ones to call them out on their BS, when they fail to live up to their own standards. You help nothing by being a blind defender of people that do bad things even in support of causes you happen to generally agree with.
 
2012-05-03 01:49:42 PM  

I May Be Crazy But...: Good point, people who don't like brussel spouts should be encouraged. That way, they get cheaper and I can eat more.

Roasted, with a little salt and pepper and olive oil... mmm...


Or, the demand drops, growers stop growing them, and they become a more expensive, hard to find specialty brassica.

//Yes, I typed that with a straight face.
 
2012-05-03 01:51:43 PM  

meat0918: SweetSilverBlues: yert, meat0918, quoting on mobile is a pain, so "Stuff".

Yeah, that's the good and the bad thing about the Bible, is it's open to a variety of interpretations.

As an example, with meat's quote, I take that as talking to people who seek you out. Baptism without belief is worthless, and teaching (to me) implies voluntary pupils.

I don't get how anyone thinks they can show someone the glory of God by beating them about the head and shoulders with a Bible.

Osmosis?

Honest to God, they told me if their witnessing made me feel warm and fuzzy and good, that was the Holy Spirit talking to me and telling me it what was being said was true.

//It doesn't make me warm and fuzzy. I guess the Spirit doesn't like me.


It has been my experience that if you feel all warm and fuzzy from someone forcefully witnessing to you, copious amounts of the blood of Christ have been consumed during said witnessing.
 
2012-05-03 01:51:58 PM  

unchellmatt: I'll listen to the interview. After reading his more discredited work, as well as his back pedal regarding these mysterious "sources" of information, I've written him off as a mindless quack. Certainly willing to give the man a chance to put forward his opinion.


Just please don't think my pointing out the position he took means I support him.
 
2012-05-03 01:52:33 PM  
This happened in 1994 and went to litigation? Is it possible the public would not receive any more information regarding the case? What happened next?

Would we know if it was settled out of court?

Actually curious, if anyone knows. Google doesn't find much for me.

Here was an interesting article

//maybe a reporter will dig up something, with the renewed interest and such
 
2012-05-03 01:53:41 PM  

Magorn: duffblue: Oh cool, a Christian conservative bashing thread. we haven't had one of those in a good five minutes.

I'm a Roman Catholic, and a reasonably observant one, You know who keeps submitting all those headlines about bad stuff the RC church does that often create church bashing threads? I do. You Know why? Because the church DESERVES some kicking around when they pull some of the awful shiat they do,

Those who claim to support something, especially an institution that wants to impose its morality on others should be the FIRST ones to call them out on their BS, when they fail to live up to their own standards. You help nothing by being a blind defender of people that do bad things even in support of causes you happen to generally agree with.


Good on you! I agree.

Even if you are Catholic.

/so, so sorry
//i am weak in the face of temptation
 
2012-05-03 01:55:27 PM  

duffblue: rudemix: duffblue: Oh cool, a Christian conservative bashing thread. we haven't had one of those in a good five minutes.

Take your religion back from those that give good reason to bash it and it'll stop. Until then your religion needs bashing and every sheep that complacently follows it.

The same could be said about Judaism and Islam but dat's racist!


Really? Because it gets said here every day - in fact, you just pointed it out.
Or are you just:
i18.photobucket.com
"being a conservative"?
 
2012-05-03 01:56:14 PM  

SweetSilverBlues: meat0918: SweetSilverBlues: yert, meat0918, quoting on mobile is a pain, so "Stuff".

Yeah, that's the good and the bad thing about the Bible, is it's open to a variety of interpretations.

As an example, with meat's quote, I take that as talking to people who seek you out. Baptism without belief is worthless, and teaching (to me) implies voluntary pupils.

I don't get how anyone thinks they can show someone the glory of God by beating them about the head and shoulders with a Bible.

Osmosis?

Honest to God, they told me if their witnessing made me feel warm and fuzzy and good, that was the Holy Spirit talking to me and telling me it what was being said was true.

//It doesn't make me warm and fuzzy. I guess the Spirit doesn't like me.

It has been my experience that if you feel all warm and fuzzy from someone forcefully witnessing to you, copious amounts of the blood of Christ have been consumed during said witnessing.


Justinia Malvern witnessed to you?
 
2012-05-03 01:59:02 PM  

PeterPipersPickledPecker: SweetSilverBlues: meat0918: SweetSilverBlues: yert, meat0918, quoting on mobile is a pain, so "Stuff".

Yeah, that's the good and the bad thing about the Bible, is it's open to a variety of interpretations.

As an example, with meat's quote, I take that as talking to people who seek you out. Baptism without belief is worthless, and teaching (to me) implies voluntary pupils.

I don't get how anyone thinks they can show someone the glory of God by beating them about the head and shoulders with a Bible.

Osmosis?

Honest to God, they told me if their witnessing made me feel warm and fuzzy and good, that was the Holy Spirit talking to me and telling me it what was being said was true.

//It doesn't make me warm and fuzzy. I guess the Spirit doesn't like me.

It has been my experience that if you feel all warm and fuzzy from someone forcefully witnessing to you, copious amounts of the blood of Christ have been consumed during said witnessing.

Justinia Malvern witnessed to you?


That one took me a second! Lol!

[Insert dazzingly witty and clever reply here]
 
2012-05-03 02:01:57 PM  
Brussel sprouts and bacon. Cook the bacon first, then cook the sprouts in the leftover grease. MMMMmmmmmmm.... heaven.
 
2012-05-03 02:02:45 PM  

bigbadideasinaction: Doc Daneeka: Their big evidence that "Christianity is under constant attack" is a 20-year-old urban legend?

Yeah, sounds about right.

I can think of a 2,000-year-old ubran legend they're pretty fond of as well.


To be fair, for Christians, whether you believe something is true is far more important than whether it actually is true.

That's why "faith" is one of their three great virtues, while "honesty" didn't make the list.
 
2012-05-03 02:03:14 PM  

manimal2878: GungFu: Not all Christians believe in Christ either.

um... by definition don't you have to believe there was a jesus in some form to be christian?


Nope. You just have to SAY you do.
 
2012-05-03 02:03:25 PM  
David Barton lied to support his ridiculously stupid position?

3.bp.blogspot.com

Shocked, I tell you
 
2012-05-03 02:04:08 PM  

Roof Pig: Brussel sprouts and bacon. Cook the bacon first, then cook the sprouts in the leftover grease. MMMMmmmmmmm.... heaven.


The Holy Triune of the Green and Leafy will be your way shortly. Please wait quietly for the flamethrowers.

Cake or death?
 
2012-05-03 02:07:24 PM  

SweetSilverBlues: Roof Pig: Brussel sprouts and bacon. Cook the bacon first, then cook the sprouts in the leftover grease. MMMMmmmmmmm.... heaven.

The Holy Triune of the Green and Leafy will be your way shortly. Please wait quietly for the flamethrowers.

Cake or death?


cdn2.hark.com
"Does excommunication come with a spanking...?"
 
2012-05-03 02:07:25 PM  

whither_apophis: Way to bear false witness there big guy. Is there a single commandment right wing Xians actually keep?


I can give him the benefit of the doubt and say that he's not "lying", but rather heard this urban legend and bought into it without question.

/believes that if you see a child praying, punch him
//get out there and dig a ditch!
 
2012-05-03 02:07:35 PM  

DontMakeMeComeBackThere: Um, most anecdotal stories levied by politicians (or other folks with an agenda to push) are extremely exaggerated and/or completely made up.


So it's kinda like The Consumerist, then?
 
2012-05-03 02:11:30 PM  

Allen. The end.: One of the main problems (that is, retardants to human life advancing) is that there is, by necessity, an anti-intellectual bias to evangelicalism, which is an emotionally based movement from the late 19th century. The fact that non-political (read: agnostic) religion is fairly new (and will hopefully advance) is also there.


The evangelicals have been around under differing names for many centuries. There was just an upswing in their numbers since the 19th century, just as with "fundamentals" (one could argue they're practically the same group). In the larger picture, they're part of the literalist orthodoxy that's been the dominant Christian form for about 1500 years. The Roman church and its protestant offspring are all literalist. They were very effective (and violent) in suppressing the opposing gnostic or spiritual school of interpretation of the Christian mythology. The inquisition, for instance, was driven by the church's goal of removing all traces of the Carthars, a gnostic Christian movement.

Gnostic Christianity not only believes that Jesus was not a real person, they believe that the people who wrote the gospels knew this when they were writing them. They were writing fictitious parables and allegories with much deeper meaning that were meant to be thought over and meditated on. Stories to teach the reader to be a better person and to learn to reach the one true god inside everyone. Obviously, that very idea threatens literalist Christians at the core. It would destroy the church's power structure.

Religious literalists need to be kept out of power, or we will repeat the events that started the dark ages. We'll repeat the inquisition, witch hunts, etc. Literalists have no tolerance of opposing religions, or even opposing interpretations within their own religion.
 
2012-05-03 02:14:10 PM  

SweetSilverBlues: Roof Pig: Brussel sprouts and bacon. Cook the bacon first, then cook the sprouts in the leftover grease. MMMMmmmmmmm.... heaven.

The Holy Triune of the Green and Leafy will be your way shortly. Please wait quietly for the flamethrowers.

Cake or death?


Cake first, then death please.
 
2012-05-03 02:15:28 PM  

ReverendJasen: Religious literalists need to be kept out of power, or we will repeat the events that started the dark ages. We'll repeat the inquisition, witch hunts, etc. Literalists have no tolerance of opposing religions, or even opposing interpretations within their own religion.


Word.
 
2012-05-03 02:17:04 PM  

manimal2878: drb9: Wait a minute. I'm not sure whether this happened or not. The kid says it was because he was praying. The school's lawyer said it was because the kid was fighting. Why are people quick to believe a lawyer over the kid?

Like the lawyer said, have you ever been a school cafeteria as an adult? You are not going to punish the one kid quietly praying.


And police aren't going to beat the kid minding his business. Now, imagine the kid is praying, a teacher comes up to him, interrupts him, and tells him to knock it off. The kids gets upset and tells the cafeteria worker to let him finish. In the words of the school lawyer, that student is now "fighting."
 
2012-05-03 02:17:19 PM  
Slaves2Darkness
Meh not the weirdest Christian persecution fantasy I've heard. I think the one that takes the cake is Jess LaVey who was claiming to be Anton LaVey's son and renounced the church of Satan. He had all these stories about what Anton did to groom him to take over the church of Satan and it all was bull shiat.

Is he still out there selling his crap to Christians?


That reminds me of a guy who was a popular Christian comedian (ya rly) when I was a kid. Mike Warnke. After doing his comedy bit, he'd launch into sermon mode and talk about how he was a former Satanic high priest, but was saved by Jesus, blah blah blah. He spent a couple decades doing his shows and hawking books and CDs. Then in 1991 the Christian magazine Cornerstone exposed him as a fraud whose entire life was a lie.
 
2012-05-03 02:18:43 PM  

Roof Pig: SweetSilverBlues: Roof Pig: Brussel sprouts and bacon. Cook the bacon first, then cook the sprouts in the leftover grease. MMMMmmmmmmm.... heaven.

The Holy Triune of the Green and Leafy will be your way shortly. Please wait quietly for the flamethrowers.

Cake or death?

Cake first, then death please.


Well, you can't have any cake. We only had three bits and we weren't expecting such a rush.
 
2012-05-03 02:18:51 PM  

Doc Daneeka: That's why "faith" is one of their three great virtues, while "honesty" didn't make the list.


That's literalist doctrine. Blind faith is rewarded. It's sad, but it's proven the best way to hold onto your power structure. Keep your peons stupid and scared to question anything.
 
2012-05-03 02:20:18 PM  
Clewd...take the form of a clueless farktard. Cleewwwddd...take the form of a clueless farktard. Cleewwwddd....cleewwdd...CLEEWWDDD...
 
2012-05-03 02:41:25 PM  
Just like O'Donnell and her witchcraft. Fundies make up sh*t ALL THE TIME to make their "testimony" more interesting and, amongst themselves, are NEVER openly doubted.

It's creepy and weird.
 
2012-05-03 03:06:10 PM  

duffblue: Oh cool, a Christian conservative bashing thread. we haven't had one of those in a good five minutes.


Oh cool, another five minutes of living in a Christian dominated society where all I hear is them whining about how downtrodden they are. Haven't had anything else since oh, well... my entire living experience thus far.
 
2012-05-03 03:08:15 PM  

scalpod: Oh cool, another five minutes of living in a Christian dominated society where all I hear is them whining about how downtrodden they are. Haven't had anything else since oh, well... my entire living experience thus far.


Maybe if we wish them Happy Holidays they'll go running away in terror.
 
2012-05-03 03:08:33 PM  

sex0r: Yup, officials from the school accused of wrongdoing deny said wrongdoing. Case closed.


You're right, other people who weren't anywhere near the incident 20 years ago and have an axe to grind know better.

Thanks for setting the record straight Colombo.
 
2012-05-03 03:09:50 PM  
Columbo from Colombo.
 
2012-05-03 03:10:58 PM  

The Why Not Guy: scalpod: Oh cool, another five minutes of living in a Christian dominated society where all I hear is them whining about how downtrodden they are. Haven't had anything else since oh, well... my entire living experience thus far.

Maybe if we wish them Happy Holidays they'll go running away in terror.

Kwanzaa Cake or Death!

 
2012-05-03 03:22:34 PM  

PeterPipersPickledPecker: manimal2878: PeterPipersPickledPecker: manimal2878: PeterPipersPickledPecker: manimal2878: duffblue: rudemix: duffblue: Oh cool, a Christian conservative bashing thread. we haven't had one of those in a good five minutes.

Take your religion back from those that give good reason to bash it and it'll stop. Until then your religion needs bashing and every sheep that complacently follows it.

The same could be said about Judaism and Islam but dat's racist!

Strawman. I don't know any critic of religion that thinks jadaism or islam are any less bullshiat than christianity.

[www.realbollywood.com image 293x400]

Who is that?


Jada Pinkett Smith

Why is she relevant
?

Because of the bolded spelling error in the previous posts.

[www.wired.com image 636x434]


bah.
 
2012-05-03 03:23:51 PM  

SweetSilverBlues: Roof Pig: Brussel sprouts and bacon. Cook the bacon first, then cook the sprouts in the leftover grease. MMMMmmmmmmm.... heaven.

The Holy Triune of the Green and Leafy will be your way shortly. Please wait quietly for the flamethrowers.

Cake or death?


Piggy: try sprinkling them with brown sugar in the pan, then hitting them with a splash of bourbon. Once the fire goes out, you have a tasty side.

Brussels-h8r: The Cabbage Corps will not go quietly. They can take our lands, but they can never take our veggies!
 
2012-05-03 03:26:53 PM  
I do not think that this was a deliberate lie on the part of Barton. I think he honestly believed what he had been told to believe was true. In a way, it is kind of like his faith. He has been conditioned from childhood to unquestioningly accept the truth of christianity. He was told this story was true and just blindly followed along.
 
2012-05-03 03:37:33 PM  
Last time I checked, Christians are a vast majority of the population of this country. Based on that alone, I found his claim dubious and sofa king wee todd did. I think actual persecution of Christians here is so rare that it borders on the mythological, not unlike their beliefs. I was nearly kicked off a school bus when I was fourteen for reading a book on neo-paganism silently to myself. This asshole can go pound sand.

/not a neo-pagan
//was just curious about it
///abandoned religion three years later for freethinking
 
2012-05-03 03:39:17 PM  

Mock26: I do not think that this was a deliberate lie on the part of Barton. I think he honestly believed what he had been told to believe was true. In a way, it is kind of like his faith. He has been conditioned from childhood to unquestioningly accept the truth of christianity. He was told this story was true and just blindly followed along.


You do realize this guy claims to be an historian, right?
 
2012-05-03 03:43:38 PM  
I was forced to pray when I was in public school. Where is my fark article dammit?!
 
2012-05-03 03:54:54 PM  

Well Armed Sheep: SweetSilverBlues: Roof Pig: Brussel sprouts and bacon. Cook the bacon first, then cook the sprouts in the leftover grease. MMMMmmmmmmm.... heaven.

The Holy Triune of the Green and Leafy will be your way shortly. Please wait quietly for the flamethrowers.

Cake or death?

Piggy: try sprinkling them with brown sugar in the pan, then hitting them with a splash of bourbon. Once the fire goes out, you have a tasty side.

Brussels-h8r: The Cabbage Corps will not go quietly. They can take our lands, but they can never take our veggies!


The unclean brussel sprout shall be cleansed from the earth. Only the pure and true asparagus will remain.
 
2012-05-03 03:57:21 PM  

patrick767: That reminds me of a guy who was a popular Christian comedian (ya rly) when I was a kid. Mike Warnke. After doing his comedy bit, he'd launch into sermon mode and talk about how he was a former Satanic high priest, but was saved by Jesus, blah blah blah. He spent a couple decades doing his shows and hawking books and CDs. Then in 1991 the Christian magazine Cornerstone exposed him as a fraud whose entire life was a lie.


FArk, I had to go to that guys shows. Thanks for the (hideous, bullshiatladen) memories!
 
2012-05-03 04:05:35 PM  

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: Mock26: I do not think that this was a deliberate lie on the part of Barton. I think he honestly believed what he had been told to believe was true. In a way, it is kind of like his faith. He has been conditioned from childhood to unquestioningly accept the truth of christianity. He was told this story was true and just blindly followed along.

You do realize this guy claims to be an historian, right?


Yeah, but that really has nothing to do with history.
 
2012-05-03 04:13:09 PM  

SweetSilverBlues: I May Be Crazy But...you are of the unclean. I must purify you through fire.

Salt and pepper and olive oil are optional.


That right there makes having a stupid name totally worth it.
 
2012-05-03 04:17:31 PM  

SweetSilverBlues: Well Armed Sheep: SweetSilverBlues: Roof Pig: Brussel sprouts and bacon. Cook the bacon first, then cook the sprouts in the leftover grease. MMMMmmmmmmm.... heaven.

The Holy Triune of the Green and Leafy will be your way shortly. Please wait quietly for the flamethrowers.

Cake or death?

Piggy: try sprinkling them with brown sugar in the pan, then hitting them with a splash of bourbon. Once the fire goes out, you have a tasty side.

Brussels-h8r: The Cabbage Corps will not go quietly. They can take our lands, but they can never take our veggies!

The unclean brussel sprout shall be cleansed from the earth. Only the pure and true asparagus will remain.


Guys, guys! We don't need to fight. We have common ground right here. Everyone can agree that SSB's urine smells TERRIBLE.
 
2012-05-03 04:22:18 PM  

Mock26: Nina_Hartley's_Ass: Mock26: I do not think that this was a deliberate lie on the part of Barton. I think he honestly believed what he had been told to believe was true. In a way, it is kind of like his faith. He has been conditioned from childhood to unquestioningly accept the truth of christianity. He was told this story was true and just blindly followed along.

You do realize this guy claims to be an historian, right?

Yeah, but that really has nothing to do with history.


I assume that you have no idea what a historian does concerning sources...
 
2012-05-03 04:33:57 PM  
Also, I had to deal with "Backmasking professionals". That shiat was HIGH AS HELL.
 
2012-05-03 04:48:09 PM  

I May Be Crazy But...: SweetSilverBlues: I May Be Crazy But...you are of the unclean. I must purify you through fire.

Salt and pepper and olive oil are optional.

That right there makes having a stupid name totally worth it.


I did giggle a bit as I typed it!
 
2012-05-03 04:49:20 PM  

I May Be Crazy But...: SweetSilverBlues: Well Armed Sheep: SweetSilverBlues: Roof Pig: Brussel sprouts and bacon. Cook the bacon first, then cook the sprouts in the leftover grease. MMMMmmmmmmm.... heaven.

The Holy Triune of the Green and Leafy will be your way shortly. Please wait quietly for the flamethrowers.

Cake or death?

Piggy: try sprinkling them with brown sugar in the pan, then hitting them with a splash of bourbon. Once the fire goes out, you have a tasty side.

Brussels-h8r: The Cabbage Corps will not go quietly. They can take our lands, but they can never take our veggies!

The unclean brussel sprout shall be cleansed from the earth. Only the pure and true asparagus will remain.

Guys, guys! We don't need to fight. We have common ground right here. Everyone can agree that SSB's urine smells TERRIBLE.


It does not! That is the sweet scent of purity and light!

...

Ok...you got me. It's a fair cop.
 
2012-05-03 04:56:02 PM  

sex0r: J. Frank Parnell: sex0r: Yup, officials from the school accused of wrongdoing deny said wrongdoing. Case closed.

"Do you think it makes sense that the teachers would look around the cafeteria and target the one student who was praying quietly at his seat?"

Does it make sense a teacher called an autistic kid a "bastard", or that a week doesn't go by without a story of a teacher sleeping with a student? What about the teacher that grabbed a student, shoved him under a desk, and told him that's what the Nazi's did to the Jews? You assume that all teachers are a bastion of reasonableness. That's not a good assumption.


No, you're right -- assuming that EVERY teacher is perfect is a mug's game. Most people, however, would accept that MOST teachers are reasonable.

Knowing that the quoted case was a bald-faced lie helps, but common sense suggests there'd be some proof of such extreme action. Instead these sorts of claims are routinely exposed as exaggerations at best or outright lies at worst. So they fall into the category of extraordinary claims, and thus require extraordinary proof. No such proof exists.

Let me break it down for you:
1. Human nature. Teachers on lunch monitor duty generally resent playing babysitter and spend too much of their time sorting out kids' disruptive behavior. They're not going to go out of their way to harrass a student who isn't being disruptive. The claim made is UNLIKELY on the surface because people generally do not seek trouble without cause.

2. Kids that age lie all the time, but especially when they get in trouble. They usually lie in ways that are easily exposed. Adult professionals in view of their co-workers and witnesses are NOT going to risk their jobs by singling out a kid in public over his mainstream beliefs. You might be able to produce evidence of one or two outliers, but I doubt even that. On the other hand, there are MANY proven cases of mainstream Christians in positions of power in schools who used that power to single out those of other belief systems. And even THEY are outliers, so it would be similarly extraordinary to claim it was routine enough to amount to nationwide persecution.

How about this: If you are caught lying about facts, after having been corrected, the network must include that tidbit every time you appear thereafter, both when introducing you and on the screen. ("Here is Bob Blahblah to talk about religious persecution. We remind our viewers that this person has been proven to have lied or misrepresented the facts at least four times on this very program, and we remind Mr Blahblah that we will end the interview if he repeats one of these refuted claims.")
 
2012-05-03 05:07:45 PM  

SweetSilverBlues: yert, meat0918, quoting on mobile is a pain, so "Stuff".

Yeah, that's the good and the bad thing about the Bible, is it's open to a variety of interpretations.

As an example, with meat's quote, I take that as talking to people who seek you out. Baptism without belief is worthless, and teaching (to me) implies voluntary pupils.

I don't get how anyone thinks they can show someone the glory of God by beating them about the head and shoulders with a Bible.

Osmosis?


Wasn't Osmosis that guy who parted the Red Sea? Y'know that Jewish patriarch and profit who said "you'll pry my gun from my cold dead hands"?

As for involuntary conversions: there's a great story about (IIRC) Charlemagne, or some similar mighty conqueror of the age, who basically cornered a group of folks in a river, had a priest baptize them, and announced to them that they were converted whether they liked it or not. :)
 
2012-05-03 05:16:16 PM  

drb9: manimal2878: drb9: Wait a minute. I'm not sure whether this happened or not. The kid says it was because he was praying. The school's lawyer said it was because the kid was fighting. Why are people quick to believe a lawyer over the kid?

Like the lawyer said, have you ever been a school cafeteria as an adult? You are not going to punish the one kid quietly praying.

And police aren't going to beat the kid minding his business. Now, imagine the kid is praying, a teacher comes up to him, interrupts him, and tells him to knock it off. The kids gets upset and tells the cafeteria worker to let him finish. In the words of the school lawyer, that student is now "fighting."


Lots of imagination happening there. To accept them, we have to assume that a teacher on lunch duty singled out a student who wasn't causing a disruption and singled him out for punishment, that the school colluded to cover it up, that repeated investigations of the kid's refuted claim failed to find evidence that it happened as the kid claimed, and so forth. And THEN you have to prove that such behavior was routine enough to represent anything more than an outlying incident.

Or we can look at the facts. The kid lied in hopes of avoiding trouble for having been suspended for fighting. This has been proven to reasonable degree. Mr Barton HAS to have been aware of this, but like others in his position, find the lie too useful to give up.
 
2012-05-03 05:20:29 PM  

jvowles: SweetSilverBlues: yert, meat0918, quoting on mobile is a pain, so "Stuff".

Yeah, that's the good and the bad thing about the Bible, is it's open to a variety of interpretations.

As an example, with meat's quote, I take that as talking to people who seek you out. Baptism without belief is worthless, and teaching (to me) implies voluntary pupils.

I don't get how anyone thinks they can show someone the glory of God by beating them about the head and shoulders with a Bible.

Osmosis?

Wasn't Osmosis that guy who parted the Red Sea? Y'know that Jewish patriarch and profit who said "you'll pry my gun from my cold dead hands"?

As for involuntary conversions: there's a great story about (IIRC) Charlemagne, or some similar mighty conqueror of the age, who basically cornered a group of folks in a river, had a priest baptize them, and announced to them that they were converted whether they liked it or not. :)


And profit? Rofl

And yeah, there are a LOT of facedesky moments in history.
 
2012-05-03 05:22:31 PM  

jvowles: SweetSilverBlues: yert, meat0918, quoting on mobile is a pain, so "Stuff".

Yeah, that's the good and the bad thing about the Bible, is it's open to a variety of interpretations.

As an example, with meat's quote, I take that as talking to people who seek you out. Baptism without belief is worthless, and teaching (to me) implies voluntary pupils.

I don't get how anyone thinks they can show someone the glory of God by beating them about the head and shoulders with a Bible.

Osmosis?

Wasn't Osmosis that guy who parted the Red Sea? Y'know that Jewish patriarch and profit who said "you'll pry my gun from my cold dead hands"?

As for involuntary conversions: there's a great story about (IIRC) Charlemagne, or some similar mighty conqueror of the age, who basically cornered a group of folks in a river, had a priest baptize them, and announced to them that they were converted whether they liked it or not. :)


No, I think Osmos-is that show Carl Sagan did.
 
2012-05-03 05:49:57 PM  
Oh yeah? Well the right wing turned Gingrich into a newt!
 
2012-05-03 05:50:51 PM  
Liars of any group sucks. Hypocrites make it worse when they scream it like how dare you question me.

I once got detention for putting my fries on my hamburger. I liked how it tasted, but the teacher had zero tolerance for food experimentation. I was warned first, but I really didn't care at that point. No kidding, it happened in the 5th grade.
 
2012-05-03 06:18:15 PM  

PeterPipersPickledPecker: Mock26: Nina_Hartley's_Ass: Mock26: I do not think that this was a deliberate lie on the part of Barton. I think he honestly believed what he had been told to believe was true. In a way, it is kind of like his faith. He has been conditioned from childhood to unquestioningly accept the truth of christianity. He was told this story was true and just blindly followed along.

You do realize this guy claims to be an historian, right?

Yeah, but that really has nothing to do with history.

I assume that you have no idea what a historian does concerning sources...


Yeah, so what? That does not mean that he checks the sources for every single thing he has ever read or heard. There is a world of difference between checking the sources on something out of history and something that you heard from a friend.
 
2012-05-03 07:24:15 PM  
This story wasn't meant to be taken literally. It's an allegory.
 
2012-05-03 07:53:21 PM  

DontMakeMeComeBackThere: Contents Under Pressure: Jon Stewart and other people interviewing these things need to keep a laptop on their desks, bookmarked to snopes.com.

That would nip all this happy horsesht right in the bud.

Right, because nothing keeps an interview zipping along like stopping it every 2 minutes with "hang on, let me Google that", followed by 4 minutes of silent surfing by the host.


QI, a show in the UK, has people who will check the truth of anything a guest says and within thirty seconds or so will tell Stephen Fry, the host, so he can tell the guest. He has a small monitor in his desk that displays such messages.

Don't see why a news programme couldn't do the same, except no guest would ever agree to appear on it of course....
 
2012-05-03 11:43:08 PM  

Armadillo Slim: This story wasn't meant to be taken literally. It's an allegory.


It was not intended to be a factual statement?
 
2012-05-03 11:56:41 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: Armadillo Slim: This story wasn't meant to be taken literally. It's an allegory.

It was not intended to be a factual statement?


boards.420chan.org
 
2012-05-04 12:20:26 AM  

cameroncrazy1984: It was not intended to be a factual statement?


No. It refers to makers of all dairy products.
 
2012-05-04 01:47:51 AM  
It has been revealed that this dude, David Barton, has used false quotations but said that they still represent what the founding fathers had intended. Like the farker is channeling them or something. So yeah, he's either crazy or a liar.
 
2012-05-04 03:07:04 AM  

Prosthetic Anus: cameroncrazy1984: Armadillo Slim: This story wasn't meant to be taken literally. It's an allegory.

It was not intended to be a factual statement?

[boards.420chan.org image 424x335]


Google "Senator John Kyl," "Planned Parenthood," and "not intended as a factual statement." Then you'll know to whom the "missed the joke" picture really refers.

HTH HAND
smh
 
2012-05-04 05:09:25 PM  

Ceiling Moran: Prosthetic Anus: cameroncrazy1984: Armadillo Slim: This story wasn't meant to be taken literally. It's an allegory.

It was not intended to be a factual statement?

[boards.420chan.org image 424x335]

Google "Senator John Kyl," "Planned Parenthood," and "not intended as a factual statement." Then you'll know to whom the "missed the joke" picture really refers.

HTH HAND
smh



I'm not sure what your point is. If it's that the right wing consistently lies and then backpedals or just pushes the lie, then I agree. I couldn't take "This story wasn't meant to be taken literally. It's an allegory." as anything other than satire. If it wasn't, then, wow. Poe's law and all that.
 
2012-05-04 11:34:40 PM  
Ah never mind. Mea culpa, I am indeed the retard here.
 
2012-05-06 04:53:22 AM  

patrick767: That reminds me of a guy who was a popular Christian comedian (ya rly) when I was a kid. Mike Warnke. After doing his comedy bit, he'd launch into sermon mode and talk about how he was a former Satanic high priest, but was saved by Jesus, blah blah blah. He spent a couple decades doing his shows and hawking books and CDs. Then in 1991 the Christian magazine Cornerstone exposed him as a fraud whose entire life was a lie.


It doesn't surprise me at all to find out he was a serial womanizer and abusive husband.
 
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