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(Computer & Videogames)   Apparently feeling it is undeserving of the Worst Company in America title, EA claimed Rock Band disabling message was just an error, totally not true. Also, let's just pretend the FAQ update which confirmed the said error didn't exist   (computerandvideogames.com ) divider line
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2012-05-03 10:48:47 AM  
I bet Apple stepped in and reminded them they can't sell time-limited apps. I hope they threatened to pull all of EAs games if they went through with the shutdown.
 
2012-05-03 10:53:08 AM  
Damn, EA. Can you fark up your reputation any more?
 
2012-05-03 11:00:22 AM  
We're not evil. We swear. We're just... idiots. Yeah, that's the ticket. We're idiots.
 
2012-05-03 11:00:58 AM  
This is why I'm not fond of the new trend of requiring an internet connection... even for single player games.

/diablo 3
 
2012-05-03 11:01:59 AM  

jbtilley: This is why I'm not fond of the new trend of requiring an internet connection... even for single player games.

/diablo 3


I'm such a feeble human being. I swore up and down that I wasn't going to buy Diablo 3 because of its online requirement.

/pre-ordered it yesterday from Gamestop.
//I'm so weak.
 
2012-05-03 11:03:03 AM  
Bad place to work. The VP of our division never did anything except walk around in his Armani suit and tell people they weren't working hard enough. Fortunately, he was only there 10-3, so no late meetings.
 
2012-05-03 11:07:29 AM  

Cythraul: Can you fark up your reputation any more?


Give them a week, they'll find a way.
 
2012-05-03 11:20:14 AM  

imontheinternet: We're not evil. We swear. We're just... idiots. Yeah, that's the ticket. We're idiots.


Why can't they be both?
 
2012-05-03 11:24:07 AM  

Cythraul:
/pre-ordered it yesterday from Gamestop.
//I'm so weak.


Of course you did, just like they knew you and all the other people saying they wanted nothing to do with D3 would.

You (and your ilk) are the reason we can't have nice things.
 
2012-05-03 11:27:38 AM  

jbtilley: This is why I'm not fond of the new trend of requiring an internet connection... even for single player games.

/diablo 3


There comes a point of oversaturated connectivity.

Don't these companies remember games like Mario? Single player has never been so good.

If they put as much thought into making a creative, fun, enthralling game as they do squeezing every last penny from their customers (and yes, gathering info on your habits to sell to advertisers is certainly part of this).... They might actually find a formula for repeated success.

I think I'm done with gaming. I'll whip out the SNES and what not from time to time, but fark all this other shiat.
 
2012-05-03 11:31:58 AM  

Vaneshi: Cythraul:
/pre-ordered it yesterday from Gamestop.
//I'm so weak.

Of course you did, just like they knew you and all the other people saying they wanted nothing to do with D3 would.

You (and your ilk) are the reason we can't have nice things.


I'm forced to agree with Vaneshi's principles on this one. It is frustrating to no end when people falter on principles just to play the latest AAA title. Someone post the old steam pic of the "Boycott MW2" steam group that shows like 60% of them playing MW2 on release day. None of the complaints will ever get fixed if you just keep buying whatever bullshiat the companies lob at you. This is why I haven't and won't buy any of the following: Mass Effect 3, Crysis 3, Sim City 5, Battlefield 3, any other EA game, anymore of the CoD series, and anything that Ubisoft releases.

In a stunning self-rebuttal:
I'm still going to buy Diablo 3 regardless of the online requirement because it's not a single-player game for me and the always-online requirement is essentially a non-issue for me. I'm also going to support Runic and buy TL2.
 
2012-05-03 11:37:30 AM  

bemis23: I'm forced to agree with Vaneshi's principles on this one. It is frustrating to no end when people falter on principles just to play the latest AAA title. Someone post the old steam pic of the "Boycott MW2" steam group that shows like 60% of them playing MW2 on release day. None of the complaints will ever get fixed if you just keep buying whatever bullshiat the companies lob at you. This is why I haven't and won't buy any of the following: Mass Effect 3, Crysis 3, Sim City 5, Battlefield 3, any other EA game, anymore of the CoD series, and anything that Ubisoft releases.


But, but, but.. this is not bullshiat, this is DIABLO 3!
 
2012-05-03 11:40:10 AM  

Cythraul: jbtilley: This is why I'm not fond of the new trend of requiring an internet connection... even for single player games.

/diablo 3

I'm such a feeble human being. I swore up and down that I wasn't going to buy Diablo 3 because of its online requirement.

/pre-ordered it yesterday from Gamestop.
//I'm so weak.


Hahaha, don't worry sweetie, we all knew you would. The huff and puff over "omg perm connection to the internet what is this year 2000?!?" was just that, a thought process from over a decade ago.

In the end, you and everyone else will realize it's worth it to have another company manage the data, and you just use a portal to login.
 
2012-05-03 11:46:09 AM  
New Spokesman for EA:
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2012-05-03 11:46:09 AM  

Vaneshi: Cythraul:
/pre-ordered it yesterday from Gamestop.
//I'm so weak.

Of course you did, just like they knew you and all the other people saying they wanted nothing to do with D3 would.

You (and your ilk) are the reason we can't have nice things.


^
 
2012-05-03 11:48:36 AM  
icanhasinternets.com


Hah! What-ever! Y'all can keep your principles. I'll be having fun killing stuff in Diablo 3.

/unless the power / internet goes out
 
2012-05-03 11:51:03 AM  
These guys are still going to hell for working Tiburon like a Chinese sweatshop.
 
2012-05-03 11:53:26 AM  
Stop giving them money assholes.
 
2012-05-03 11:54:43 AM  

jbtilley: This is why I'm not fond of the new trend of requiring an internet connection... even for single player games.

/diablo 3


Yup. Not buying diablo 3 because of that and because of the real money auction house, and I've played (and still play) the shiat out of diablo 2 for ages. Also didn't buy starcraft 2 because of all the shenanigans they pulled with bnet/lack of lan/etc, and that's another game whose predecessor I own and still play all the time. I don't *care* how good they may be, I have plenty of other games I can have fun with without giving my money to people who think that this shiat's gonna fly.

If you buy games from companies who pull crap like this, you're not helping.
 
2012-05-03 11:58:12 AM  

MuonNeutrino: jbtilley: This is why I'm not fond of the new trend of requiring an internet connection... even for single player games.

/diablo 3

Yup. Not buying diablo 3 because of that and because of the real money auction house, and I've played (and still play) the shiat out of diablo 2 for ages. Also didn't buy starcraft 2 because of all the shenanigans they pulled with bnet/lack of lan/etc, and that's another game whose predecessor I own and still play all the time. I don't *care* how good they may be, I have plenty of other games I can have fun with without giving my money to people who think that this shiat's gonna fly.

If you buy games from companies who pull crap like this, you're not helping.


For every copy of D3 you don't buy, I'm buying 3.
 
2012-05-03 11:59:27 AM  
Please Blizzard. Make the console version of Diablo 3 happen sooner rather than later. I love Torchlight(shockingly the controller works better than KBAM for these things), but it's no Diablo. I need my Diablo fix...

/D2 and Counter Strike are the only 2 reasons I regret selling my PC :(
 
2012-05-03 12:07:00 PM  

jbtilley: This is why I'm not fond of the new trend of requiring an internet connection... even for single player games.

/diablo 3


I am proud to say I have not purchased a single game that requires an always-on internet connection for single player. I don't pirate them either; I just skip them entirely. I have enough games to play from publishers that don't require me to constantly prove I'm not a thief.
 
2012-05-03 12:07:35 PM  

Beeblebrox: MuonNeutrino: jbtilley: This is why I'm not fond of the new trend of requiring an internet connection... even for single player games.

/diablo 3

Yup. Not buying diablo 3 because of that and because of the real money auction house, and I've played (and still play) the shiat out of diablo 2 for ages. Also didn't buy starcraft 2 because of all the shenanigans they pulled with bnet/lack of lan/etc, and that's another game whose predecessor I own and still play all the time. I don't *care* how good they may be, I have plenty of other games I can have fun with without giving my money to people who think that this shiat's gonna fly.

If you buy games from companies who pull crap like this, you're not helping.

For every copy of D3 you don't buy, I'm buying 3.


I'm not buying 1,000 copies. Get your credit card.
 
2012-05-03 12:08:46 PM  
Exxon is its own state operating within America, bending and shaping US foreign, environmental and economic policies in their favor by buying Congressmen lock, stock and barrel. BOA, and their ilk, plunger raped the world. But yeah, because EA farked you over on a video game, or some such nonsense, they're worse than those and about 10 other companies that I can think of off the top of my head that are flat out evil.
 
2012-05-03 12:09:59 PM  
Nice of them to announce their intentions - it should be pretty trivial to demonstrate mens rea from that.

Getting the full larceny case will be a bit harder, unfortunately, but I seriously doubt EA would be able to get away with arguing some idiotic legalese buried in some EULA somehow made this a "rental". Especially as their website pretty clearly has a button saying "BUY", and not "lease"/etc.

It's too bad the corporate veil will protect these farkers from the main force of such criminal charges, though.. *sigh*

Regarding this new backpedaling... that doesn't explain why they went through the time and expense to program such a popup in the first place. There's no non-criminal use for it...
 
2012-05-03 12:14:29 PM  

natazha: Bad place to work. The VP of our division never did anything except walk around in his Armani suit and tell people they weren't working hard enough. Fortunately, he was only there 10-3, so no late meetings.


Hello fellow drone!

Why I'm still here baffles me...I might be a masochist...or it might be because the refugees from other companies tell pretty much the same story.

Actually to be fair my corworkers, for the most part, really do try and are dedicated to making quality product. They certainly aren't laughing their way to the bank.

Those guys in the Armani suits though...

I've probably already said too much and there's so much I could say...
 
2012-05-03 12:14:43 PM  

mitchcumstein1: Exxon is its own state operating within America, bending and shaping US foreign, environmental and economic policies in their favor by buying Congressmen lock, stock and barrel. BOA, and their ilk, plunger raped the world. But yeah, because EA farked you over on a video game, or some such nonsense, they're worse than those and about 10 other companies that I can think of off the top of my head that are flat out evil.


Ugh, we went over this yesterday. So before a nice thread about Diablo 3 gets ruined let me make this simple.

Exxon and BOA tend to only screw their customers. Which does not excuse them from being evil.

HOWEVER, EA screws it's employees(look it up, they've been sued multiple times for non-payment of overtime wages. They also work their employees to the bone for very little pay) AND it's customers(by engaging in ridiculously slime-y business practices that only hurt their consumers.)

In terms of being flat out evil, it's one thing to screw your customers. Every company does in one way or another, every company tries to influence government policy that might be detrimental to their business, and BOA certainly wasn't the first to rape the world. Screwing over EVERYBODY(employees of your own company included) is slightly rarer, and thus more deserving of being called the worst company in America.

Now back to my raging boner for Diablo 3.
 
2012-05-03 12:15:08 PM  
So is this just a internet verification check or is there more to it? Otherwise there will be a hack out next day
 
2012-05-03 12:20:04 PM  

Whateva_I_DO_WHAT_I_WANT: So is this just a internet verification check or is there more to it? Otherwise there will be a hack out next day


It's constant internet verification. Basically if you're not connected to the net, you don't get to play Diablo 3. Single player included.
 
2012-05-03 12:20:33 PM  
When consumerist rated them number 1 worst company I was like WTF? Now I get it.
 
2012-05-03 12:23:16 PM  

Strategeryz0r: Whateva_I_DO_WHAT_I_WANT: So is this just a internet verification check or is there more to it? Otherwise there will be a hack out next day

It's constant internet verification. Basically if you're not connected to the net, you don't get to play Diablo 3. Single player included.



Ahhh,, that will get hacked almost day one
 
2012-05-03 12:30:53 PM  

Strategeryz0r: Exxon and BOA tend to only screw their customers. Which does not excuse them from being evil.

HOWEVER, EA screws it's employees(look it up, they've been sued multiple times for non-payment of overtime wages. They also work their employees to the bone for very little pay) AND it's customers(by engaging in ridiculously slime-y business practices that only hurt their consumers.)


Yes, being instrumental in causing a world economic meltdown, and raping and pillaging the Earth, which I'm sure in no way effects their employees, is no match for not paying overtime wages. I see your point.

Not saying EA doesn't suck, but seriously, worst company in America? That's laughable.
 
2012-05-03 12:35:39 PM  
I went and canceled my Saint Row 3 preorder the day before it came out because I heard it was coming with an online pass. Fark that cash grab shiat. I won't support it. I won't buy from EA, Ubisoft, or Activision, either. I can only hope Rockstar and Valve don't wake up one morning and decide "Fark the customer."
 
2012-05-03 12:42:56 PM  
As much as I griped about the online thing with D3, not getting it wasn't really a choice. It's the only game my brothers play and since we're spread out all over the country it's a cheap way to get to hang with them. Sort of like how I play WoW as an easy way to keep future in-laws happy. I tank and take beatings in game so I don't have to IRL. Also, screw EA/Bioware. They got me on TOR, ME3, and DA2. They've hit my crap quota. I'll miss the NHL games though.
 
2012-05-03 12:45:06 PM  

Mentalpatient87: I can only hope Rockstar and Valve don't wake up one morning and decide "Fark the customer."


Rockstar and their dog old engine that won't run on PC you mean? Look at GTA4, sure it's a nice game and all but unless you have a PC that will utterly curb stomp a 360 you won't have a good time playing it. This from a company who have traditionally been a PC games developer.

Rockstar should get a yellow card for that, leaving only Valve... who I'm sure will fark up somehow at some point.
 
2012-05-03 12:46:52 PM  
EA may feel that it is undeserving of the title of Worst Company in America but surely they are working hard to earn it.
In the category of Game Publishers they are, without question, industry leaders in worst practices and in their contempt for their customer base. Avoiding purchasing EA products and those of their subsidiaries is your best option. Should you purchase their products and still want to complain I suggest you shut the hell up and fester; you have brought it on yourself and do not deserve any sympathy.
 
2012-05-03 12:56:03 PM  

mitchcumstein1: Strategeryz0r: Exxon and BOA tend to only screw their customers. Which does not excuse them from being evil.

HOWEVER, EA screws it's employees(look it up, they've been sued multiple times for non-payment of overtime wages. They also work their employees to the bone for very little pay) AND it's customers(by engaging in ridiculously slime-y business practices that only hurt their consumers.)

Yes, being instrumental in causing a world economic meltdown, and raping and pillaging the Earth, which I'm sure in no way effects their employees, is no match for not paying overtime wages. I see your point.

Not saying EA doesn't suck, but seriously, worst company in America? That's laughable.



I think it's based off the level of evil, not the level of collateral damage. If a gas leak burns down a building, it can cause millions of dollars in damage, but this is not necessarily evil. If you steal and drive a 6-year old's bicycle off the roof and seriously injure yourself in the process, it creates a shocked question of 'why would you DO that?' Why would you go that far out of your way simply to be evil?

BoA, as insipidly incompetent as they are every minute of every day, may simply have been trying to steal from their investors and got their hands trapped in the cookie jar. Now, granted, it was quite a large cookie jar, but there was no malice or cruelty behind it, simply everyday greed. EA, contrariwise, is actively trying to do 'whatever it takes' to eliminate all piracy in some arrogant attempt to rule sovereign over the revenue stream. This action of declaring war is actually, tangibly, and deliberately destructive. Which is something you don't see many companies doing, because it's not sound business practice over the long term.
 
2012-05-03 01:03:03 PM  

Cythraul: I'm such a feeble human being. I swore up and down that I wasn't going to buy Diablo 3 because of its online requirement.

/pre-ordered it yesterday from Gamestop.
//I'm so weak.


Blizzard over-promised, and they're gonna under-deliver, 10 years late, and *still* they'll make a mint on this thing.

Unbelievable.

/fark Blizzard, fark EA, and now fark Bioware
//Bethesda still owns my soul :/
 
2012-05-03 01:10:40 PM  
I am still considering buying Rock band 3 just for "Paradise by the Dashboard Light".
 
2012-05-03 01:13:59 PM  
Thank you BMS 4.32. Between that and bunch of other older games (GOG), I have plenty to keep me occupied until the D3 hype has passed. I really wanted to get it, still play 2 sometimes, and it is going to be painful but soon my son and I will find something else to play.
 
2012-05-03 01:18:35 PM  

red5ish: Should you purchase their products and still want to complain I suggest you shut the hell up and fester; you have brought it on yourself and do not deserve any sympathy.


What I find weird about EA is that for a time they seemed to be pulling out of the nose dive and going straight. In ME2 and DA:O (both EA published games by an EA subsidiary) the day 1 DLC was a character (Zaeed & Shale respectively) that added value to the game and gave an incentive to buy new. So I brought both as a) good games and b) a signal that "Yes, you've done the right thing, here is some money".

Somewhere inbetween 'something' happened because they're back to their old habits (see ME3's Prothean DLC and to make matters worse came out with Origin (which pisses off the legion of Ultima and Wing Commander fans) an online shop which can and did lock people out of their single player content for going on a rant in the EA forums... along with offering limited number sales (1000 Crysis 2's for £9.99 sort of thing). Fine, except it got in to the ring with Steam and offers worse service; it'd be like someone selling an 'iPod killer' that was demonstrably worse than an actual iPod.

But I can't see any mention of a management change that'd lead to them doing all of this when they were starting to get their act together.
 
2012-05-03 01:24:27 PM  
Sony is in the corner frantically taking notes.

"Yes, yes, we will pull the plug on all the Vitas just in time for the Sony PSP Nex™ to launch; they will all want to keep playing our games and they will ALL buy it!"

I know, I'm crossing streams with companies, but this is the general trend in the big wig gaming companies. EA earns every bit of scorn they get over this. And Origin. And tainting Bioware. I can give a pardon for DA2 and ME3, mostly cause DAO had a fun beginning, and ME3 was 99% amazing; their next IP will be the litmus test to see how far Bioware has fallen, or if there's enough there to keep driving.

I can't believe they said to check out their other titles. As if those won't be next on the chopping block.
 
2012-05-03 01:31:00 PM  

mitchcumstein1: Exxon is its own state operating within America, bending and shaping US foreign, environmental and economic policies in their favor by buying Congressmen lock, stock and barrel. BOA, and their ilk, plunger raped the world. But yeah, because EA farked you over on a video game, or some such nonsense, they're worse than those and about 10 other companies that I can think of off the top of my head that are flat out evil.


I get it. I totally do. These people are connected to video games so they see the impact on a daily basis. What is our connection to big oil besides the price at the pump going up and down?

Nothing.

I play video games all the time too but EA is hardly the worst company in America. We, as gamers, just don't like how they buy our favorite developers and the ruin them within a year. Nerds get all ragey and vote EA as the worst company...ever.

But seriously...people. EA is barely the worst company in the US. Get real.
 
2012-05-03 01:37:36 PM  
D3 not having an offline mode is a bit irksome, but frankly, I'd always wished I could take my D2 SP characters online, and now that my internet is pretty much always on anyway, it doesn't bother me much that I need that connection to play. That and I've lost a bunch of characters to my accounts getting deleted for inactivity, so being able to just put the game down for 3 years, come back, and still see my wizard there is worth handing off that responsibility to Blizz. By the time they stop supporting D3, they'll already be on Diablo 6+ or something.
 
2012-05-03 01:45:54 PM  

UrCa: D3 not having an offline mode is a bit irksome, but frankly, I'd always wished I could take my D2 SP characters online, and now that my internet is pretty much always on anyway, it doesn't bother me much that I need that connection to play. That and I've lost a bunch of characters to my accounts getting deleted for inactivity, so being able to just put the game down for 3 years, come back, and still see my wizard there is worth handing off that responsibility to Blizz. By the time they stop supporting D3, they'll already be on Diablo 6+ or something.


Requiring internet access is also a way to prevent people from playing mods, which was one of the reasons I played D2 for as long as I did.

/I think the sun will supernova before they reach D6
 
2012-05-03 01:53:19 PM  

mitchcumstein1: Exxon is its own state operating within America, bending and shaping US foreign, environmental and economic policies in their favor by buying Congressmen lock, stock and barrel. BOA, and their ilk, plunger raped the world. But yeah, because EA farked you over on a video game, or some such nonsense, they're worse than those and about 10 other companies that I can think of off the top of my head that are flat out evil.


Hey now, don't go throwing perspective into a video game argument. They don't like it.

/wasn't going to play D3
//played stress test
///pre-ordered
 
2012-05-03 02:04:36 PM  

HeartBurnKid: jbtilley: This is why I'm not fond of the new trend of requiring an internet connection... even for single player games.

/diablo 3

I am proud to say I have not purchased a single game that requires an always-on internet connection for single player. I don't pirate them either; I just skip them entirely. I have enough games to play from publishers that don't require me to constantly prove I'm not a thief.


Same, I've cut a good number of games I would have purchased had there not been the internet requirement.

I'm tired of having every company try to force me into their own personal social app as well. I've given up steam as well.
 
2012-05-03 03:24:37 PM  

kim jong-un: HeartBurnKid: jbtilley: This is why I'm not fond of the new trend of requiring an internet connection... even for single player games.

/diablo 3

I am proud to say I have not purchased a single game that requires an always-on internet connection for single player. I don't pirate them either; I just skip them entirely. I have enough games to play from publishers that don't require me to constantly prove I'm not a thief.

Same, I've cut a good number of games I would have purchased had there not been the internet requirement.

I'm tired of having every company try to force me into their own personal social app as well. I've given up steam as well.


Heh, Steam is the one thing I could never give up. Mostly because I have a backlog as long as my arm from their sales. I don't use the social networking features, though.
 
2012-05-03 04:15:15 PM  

Whateva_I_DO_WHAT_I_WANT: Ahhh,, that will get hacked almost day one


Incorrect. It is not an internet verification like the poster you responded to claimed. Actual game elements (like loot drops and calculations) are done on the Diablo server. You'll need to find an entire pirate server to play, not just disable the check.
 
2012-05-03 05:37:06 PM  

Cythraul: jbtilley: This is why I'm not fond of the new trend of requiring an internet connection... even for single player games.

/diablo 3

I'm such a feeble human being. I swore up and down that I wasn't going to buy Diablo 3 because of its online requirement.

/pre-ordered it yesterday from Gamestop.
//I'm so weak.


I pre-ordered torchlight 2 instead
 
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