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2012-05-03 10:19:33 AM  

LouDobbsAwaaaay: Caught an episode recently after having cut free from cable TV for about five years. It might just be my imagination, but it seems like they pack about 300% more commercial breaks between the experiment and the revealing of results than they used to. They spend half the show reminding you what they were doing before the last break, and by the time they get around to telling you the results I don't care anymore.


Oh yeah. It's unwatchable without a DVR. I get through an episode in about 12 minutes between skipping commercials and the constant rehashes of what they are doing. Even then it has to be something interesting like the Lego ball or I'll bail.
 
2012-05-03 10:27:51 AM  
ts3.mm.bing.net
 
2012-05-03 10:38:32 AM  
images.tvrage.com

1.bp.blogspot.com

If we're posting pictures...
 
2012-05-03 10:43:40 AM  

Emmett Fitz-Hume: DjangoStonereaver: Magic_Button: Frederick: Eh, if you are static, I suppose. Heck, I prefer "How it's made" to Mythbusters.

I Concur How it is made is better by far - I use to watch How Its made when it was silent --

My wife absolutely refuses to watch HOW ITS MADE, solely because she thinks
the narrator's voice is creepy.

It always bugs me when it comes to the point in a segment where a human is involved, instead of a machine. The way the narrator says "a worker blah blah blah" weirds me out. "A worker" sounds like it could easily be replaced by "disposable meat bag", which it probably will be when SkyNet becomes self aware in December.


One thing that surprises me is how much is still done by meat bags. Processes I assumed were almost entirely automated.
 
2012-05-03 10:45:18 AM  
Ha Ha. Some of you actually pay for cable.

/That's the only reason you're watching Mythbusters.
//I cannot imagine anyone downloading it.
 
2012-05-03 10:46:51 AM  

stevetherobot: SacriliciousBeerSwiller: That show blows.

"Yeah, so, we're gonna test whether a person can catch an arrow by firing it at a mechanical hand made out of Jello from 4 feet away. Oh, hey, look, it didn't work. BUSTED, BRAH!!!"

They are intellectually lazy.

To be fair, they did a follow up in which they actually shot arrows at a ninja.


And then called busted after he caught some. "You didn't stop all of the random arrows, plus we were using blunted arrows."

Not to be super lenient on that one, but you'd just have to do that ONCE on a battlefield to potentially rout the enemy.
 
2012-05-03 10:59:47 AM  
Okay, even the most hardened among you have to admit that the water-heater episode and the phonebook episode were damn good television.
 
2012-05-03 11:01:12 AM  
I wish I could be as cool as all you farking trolls. Fark has become 4chan lite.
 
2012-05-03 11:03:34 AM  

Weidbrewer: I'd have to go punch them over the Plane on a Conveyer Belt episode.


Why? something wrong with their conclusion?
 
2012-05-03 11:03:37 AM  
I have never liked that show. Fake scripted dialogue, myths I never heard of and can answer right away, and pretty god awful "experiments.". Yes there is a hot red head and I thank all of you for posting pictures. Nonetheless, not even close to other shows.
 
2012-05-03 11:04:19 AM  

SacriliciousBeerSwiller: That show blows.

"Yeah, so, we're gonna test whether a person can catch an arrow by firing it at a mechanical hand made out of Jello from 4 feet away. Oh, hey, look, it didn't work. BUSTED, BRAH!!!"

They are intellectually lazy.


Your point would have more weight if they hadn't also brought on a ninja to actually catch arrows they fired at him.
 
2012-05-03 11:09:33 AM  

Fano: stevetherobot: SacriliciousBeerSwiller: That show blows.

"Yeah, so, we're gonna test whether a person can catch an arrow by firing it at a mechanical hand made out of Jello from 4 feet away. Oh, hey, look, it didn't work. BUSTED, BRAH!!!"

They are intellectually lazy.

To be fair, they did a follow up in which they actually shot arrows at a ninja.

And then called busted after he caught some. "You didn't stop all of the random arrows, plus we were using blunted arrows."

Not to be super lenient on that one, but you'd just have to do that ONCE on a battlefield to potentially rout the enemy.


On a battlefield, they didn't shoot single arrows at single opponents.
 
2012-05-03 11:10:54 AM  

thecpt: I have never liked that show. Fake scripted dialogue, myths I never heard of and can answer right away, and pretty god awful "experiments.". Yes there is a hot red head and I thank all of you for posting pictures. Nonetheless, not even close to other shows.


Fake scripted dialog -- well duh its not a "reality" show.

Not close to other shows? -- you need to be more specific. What other shows do the job better?
 
2012-05-03 11:17:22 AM  

IC Stars: thecpt: I have never liked that show. Fake scripted dialogue, myths I never heard of and can answer right away, and pretty god awful "experiments.". Yes there is a hot red head and I thank all of you for posting pictures. Nonetheless, not even close to other shows.

Fake scripted dialog -- well duh its not a "reality" show.

Not close to other shows? -- you need to be more specific. What other shows do the job better?


Nerdy is obviously a general term so when you say "the job" maybe this is the best show for this specific nitch. But for nerdy shows with hot red heads the guild and dr who are currently better. For intellectual shows I still like nova and planet earth better than this.
 
2012-05-03 11:19:34 AM  

Earpj: Frederick: Eh, if you are static, I suppose. Heck, I prefer "How it's made" to Mythbusters.

"How it's Made" is crack on TV. God forbid it's a marathon. Nothing gets done.


AGREED! When it's on, the wife knows that I'm basicaly useless for the next 30 minutes to however how many episodes are playing in a row.
 
2012-05-03 11:29:54 AM  
sharetv.org

If they got rid of the annoying biatch and had Jessi come back, I would watch it again.
 
2012-05-03 11:43:43 AM  
I got really annoyed with the Hindenberg episode because they only tested like two of eight or so possible skin/paint/hydrogen combinations and then called it a day. Not to mention their paper balloon model setup wasnt anywhere close to being a good replica of the airship.
 
2012-05-03 11:57:02 AM  

Kellner21: [sharetv.org image 321x241]

If they got rid of the annoying biatch and had Jessi come back, I would watch it again.


Yes! Bring back Squeaky McChubby!

/this is the Internet: be glad I didn't call her fat
//still want her to STFU, though; biatch has a voice that could etch glass
 
2012-05-03 11:58:22 AM  
Can't it just be a cool show? Does everything nowadays have to have the "nerd" or "geek" tag applied to it?
 
2012-05-03 12:05:49 PM  

meanmutton: Fano: stevetherobot: SacriliciousBeerSwiller: That show blows.

"Yeah, so, we're gonna test whether a person can catch an arrow by firing it at a mechanical hand made out of Jello from 4 feet away. Oh, hey, look, it didn't work. BUSTED, BRAH!!!"

They are intellectually lazy.

To be fair, they did a follow up in which they actually shot arrows at a ninja.

And then called busted after he caught some. "You didn't stop all of the random arrows, plus we were using blunted arrows."

Not to be super lenient on that one, but you'd just have to do that ONCE on a battlefield to potentially rout the enemy.

On a battlefield, they didn't shoot single arrows at single opponents.


Not to mention that he got hit at least 10 times before he managed to catch one. On a battlefield he'd have been dead long before he managed to catch one.
 
2012-05-03 12:16:20 PM  

Guuberre: I was watching the super glue episode the other night. Part of it involved proving whether or not you could turn a hotel room upside-down. Unfortunately, Grant seems to think that hotel rooms all have plywood ceilings. I was tempted to go to their site to point that minor detail out, but then realized that I really don't care.

They really HAVE gotten lazy.


It seems more of that test was if the glue could actually hold the furniture up. Which honestly I was impressed that it could even happen on plywood.

My 8 year old son absolutely loves this show. And to restate the XKCD comic, it is a lot more about the process than the rigor. We now perform is own little experiments that he comes up with on weekends and he has a blast doing it.

/Haters gonna hate, etc.
 
2012-05-03 12:32:22 PM  
A lot of the complaints of the show are based on the fact that it is edited and you can't see all of the work that goes into each experiment. Yes they aren't doing year long studies like proper scientists, they can't, it is a TV show. But I rarely think that their results are wrong. The escalations prove a lot of times what it would really take to get X to happen and so with some deduction you can easily say the situation isn't possible.

I've been watching it since episode one and other than some flashy editing and annoying recaps (I fast forward through it), the show is basically the same. My biggest gripe is that they have run out of all of the traditional myths and are now just testing viral videos and random shiat forum people claim, which is less interesting, but still entertaining enough to warrant watching.

I think stupid people tend to gloss over the effort they put in and just hone in on the few mistakes they have made and then just say "nothing they do means anything". Which is clearly not true. Anyways I'll keep watching.
 
2012-05-03 12:42:21 PM  
No pics of her ass?

NSFW: pops
 
2012-05-03 12:50:51 PM  

Fano:
One thing that surprises me is how much is still done by meat bags. Processes I assumed were almost entirely automated.


Humans at minimum wage for £5p/h is actually cheaper than making a machine that can do the complex manipulations our hands are capable of. You CAN get a machine that'll do it but unless you're running at an obscene level of production... row upon row of meatbags will be cheaper.
 
2012-05-03 12:51:59 PM  
As a fellow Los Gatos Wildcat, I approve of more Kari Byron.
 
2012-05-03 12:52:57 PM  

DjangoStonereaver: Two more reasons the show is popular:

[mythbustersresults.com image 400x341]

At least, with me.


And even better now since she became a GeekMILF.

/Oh, the momma boobies....oh.
 
2012-05-03 12:57:40 PM  
Oh yeah, that show. Didn't they change the name to "Explosions, Explosions, Explosions!"?
 
2012-05-03 01:00:38 PM  
Mythbusters is getting kinda old but I still watch it. I've been repairing/maintaining production line equipment for so long I can tell you How It's Made. They filmed the pretzel episode about a month after I quit that plant.
 
2012-05-03 01:09:39 PM  

kyuzokai: My educatory TV fave has always been James Burke's Connections. I do enjoy some Mythbusters, though... even when I think they've overlooked an obvious variable.


I loved that show, and Acme School of Stuff. Also, Secret Life of Machines.
 
2012-05-03 01:14:31 PM  
Some of the "myths" they're debunking seem to come from people whose knowledge of physics and gravity come from old Roadrunner cartoons. So it's "see, reality doesn't work that way, now let's fill in time by blowing shiat up."

/and please, more shots of Kari walking away from the camera in skintight jeans.
 
2012-05-03 01:30:44 PM  

meanmutton: Fano: stevetherobot: SacriliciousBeerSwiller: That show blows.

"Yeah, so, we're gonna test whether a person can catch an arrow by firing it at a mechanical hand made out of Jello from 4 feet away. Oh, hey, look, it didn't work. BUSTED, BRAH!!!"

They are intellectually lazy.

To be fair, they did a follow up in which they actually shot arrows at a ninja.

And then called busted after he caught some. "You didn't stop all of the random arrows, plus we were using blunted arrows."

Not to be super lenient on that one, but you'd just have to do that ONCE on a battlefield to potentially rout the enemy.

On a battlefield, they didn't shoot single arrows at single opponents.


Catch one not aimed at you? Terrify enemies.

I'm not saying they need to be able to do it 100% of the time against a hail of arrows like some anime. Is it practical? Hell no. More like calling "being able to lift a car on adrenaline" impossible because a person can't do it repeatedly.

At any rate, it was an amazing stunt to watch.
 
2012-05-03 01:32:55 PM  

ArcadianRefugee: Kellner21: [sharetv.org image 321x241]

If they got rid of the annoying biatch and had Jessi come back, I would watch it again.

Yes! Bring back Squeaky McChubby!

/this is the Internet: be glad I didn't call her fat
//still want her to STFU, though; biatch has a voice that could etch glass


She was cute, and obviously had some good mechanical skills, but she just
didn't have quite the chemistry for the other guys.

Personally, I miss Mythtern Jess Nelson (alas, I couldn't find any good pics
of her online).
 
2012-05-03 01:42:26 PM  
It's not about science, it's about special effects
 
2012-05-03 01:42:31 PM  
www.robots.org

The Answer Guys > Mythbusters

/Nothing worse than a "nerd" show that is barely anything more than explosion porn for the trailer park crowd
//Except the most mind-numbingly annoying, screechy voiced "art major pretending to be scientist" attention whore on TV
 
2012-05-03 02:01:02 PM  

DjangoStonereaver: starvethemonster: The lead balloon episode makes me all choked up and teary-eyed. The beauty of what they accomplished in that one, and the way they did it makes my heart hurt.

They had a personal appearance in DC last weekend (at the US Science &
Engineering Festival), and both Adam and Jamie nominated this as their
favorite experiment of all.


I saw them there too.
I wanted to murder Bob Ryan.
 
2012-05-03 02:08:54 PM  

Fizpez: DjangoStonereaver: Cythraul: GAT_00: The show is quite dumbed down these days, barely anything more than a 'hey, you wanna go blow shiat up man? YEAH, come on!' than science. And what actual experiments they do use are getting worse and worse at missing obvious holes.

Their 'experiments' were never really sound science to begin with, in my opinion. I guess they'd be good as an early indicator of the results of actual research, but nothing anywhere near conclusive.

I've met people who used to watch it for the science, and now they watch it to poke holes in all the science. It gets ratings either way, it seems. Then there's the boob / 'splosion factor.

The thing is, even if they aren't doing actual science (something they
themselves have never claimed they are doing), they are employing the
scientific method in what they do. Alas, most of their work testing their
hypotheses gets left on the editing floor.

And even the dumbed down version of the show is at least two standard
deviations smarter than drek like STORAGE WARS or SWAMP PEOPLE.

See, in my mind at least, I think there's a big difference between storage wars and swamp people. Sure swamp people is basically the same show over and over with a lot of "Shoot 'im, shooooot 'im" thrown in but at least its genuine - this is how these people get through the year. The two brothers are hilarious as well.

It would not surprise me in the least to find out that 3/4ths of every storage wars episode is completely and utterly staged: "Oh look a locker full of discarded mattresses and used cooking utensils.... wait, what's this chest buried in the back? Holy crap it contains the Crown Jewels of England...." ummmm yeah, sure it does.


Just like how Junk Yard Wars was planted with parts to guarantee a successful show. Reality TV is... TV
 
2012-05-03 02:15:09 PM  

DjangoStonereaver: Personally, I miss Mythtern Jess Nelson (alas, I couldn't find any good pics
of her online).


Was that the chick that filled in for Kari when she was away having her kid?

If so, I thought that chick ruled and I thought she was way better than Kari in both chemistry and knowledge.
 
2012-05-03 02:22:32 PM  

Kellner21: [sharetv.org image 321x241]

If they got rid of the annoying biatch and had Jessi come back, I would watch it again.


Obvious lesbians just don't reel them in like hot red heads.
 
2012-05-03 02:24:41 PM  
Quirky hipsters doing wacky things.

That describes so many shows these days on Discovery, TLC, Food Network, History Channel, Speed Channel, et al.
 
2012-05-03 03:25:25 PM  
TFA: Seriously, this is a show that just last episode trashed the idea that women can't drive because they wear high heels.

So what's the actual reason they can't drive?
 
2012-05-03 03:58:42 PM  
Because most "nerds" are just stupid people who have an affinity for any hobby or interest that makes them appear to be smart? And that these "nerds" are too stupid to realize the many glaring problems in almost all of mythbuster's "experiments"?

*You know, we're studying whether a ninja can catch a sword with his bare hands, so we're going to have our three geeky interns see how fast they can close their hands, because that will be analogous to a trained assassin who has worked on this skill for decades.
 
2012-05-03 04:52:23 PM  
OK. I've got to get my nerd-rage about this show off my chest. I still watch it and to some degree enjoy it, but at times what they do on the show is utterly absurd.

What really brought this home for me was when they tested the "myth" that in a sea battle during the age of sails wood splinters could harm sailors below deck. They tested it and declared it "busted." The test itself was pretty lazy - one kind of wood and not too many repeat tests (I don't remember how many they did).

In addition, this is objectively not a "myth." It's a fact. Doctors who served on ships at the time discussed such injuries. Such injuries were recorded. How could they not have considered this? It's not a myth and it's not "busted" if plenty of people have observed something happen.
 
2012-05-03 05:53:24 PM  

BeerBear: No pics of her ass?

NSFW: pops


My husband's favorite episode!

PainInTheASP: Frederick: Eh, if you are static, I suppose. Heck, I prefer "How it's made" to Mythbusters.

Agreed. How It's Made is one of the best shows on these days. The spinoffs/ripoffs (How Do They Do It, Behind the Design, etc.) aren't too bad either, but HIM is best.

/Stoner TV at its finest.


I get so sick of this show >.> They show marathons ALL THE TIME. My husband loves it and I love the premise, but I just don't want to see the same episode every week for an entire year (unless it's marbles, that was freaking awesome).
 
2012-05-03 06:58:25 PM  

eiger: OK. I've got to get my nerd-rage about this show off my chest. I still watch it and to some degree enjoy it, but at times what they do on the show is utterly absurd.

What really brought this home for me was when they tested the "myth" that in a sea battle during the age of sails wood splinters could harm sailors below deck. They tested it and declared it "busted." The test itself was pretty lazy - one kind of wood and not too many repeat tests (I don't remember how many they did).

In addition, this is objectively not a "myth." It's a fact. Doctors who served on ships at the time discussed such injuries. Such injuries were recorded. How could they not have considered this? It's not a myth and it's not "busted" if plenty of people have observed something happen.


That wasn't the myth they were testing at all. They were testing "Wooden shrapnel from a cannonball impact to a pirate ship causes more damage than the cannonball impact itself."

This was busted -- but there was no denial that wooden shrapnel didn't cause injuries.
 
2012-05-03 08:41:54 PM  

IC Stars: That wasn't the myth they were testing at all. They were testing "Wooden shrapnel from a cannonball impact to a pirate ship causes more damage than the cannonball impact itself."

This was busted -- but there was no denial that wooden shrapnel didn't cause injuries.


Haha. It s stupid observations like you just corrected that make people think the show is dumb. If you aren't smart enough to understand the premise of what they are doing then you are not smart enough to critique the testing methods and result. I've heard so many arguments like this from people and they are always based on false premises the person brings into it.

That isn't to say they always get it right, but they try to and they have revisited and corrected themselves many times.
 
2012-05-03 10:01:07 PM  
i.zdnet.com

Will always be #1 in Science shows.
 
2012-05-03 11:30:03 PM  

Honest Bender: Mythbusters is pretty lame. Adam Savage is a total tool. I feel like I'm the only one not taking crazy pills.


No, you're just a hipster, like everyone else.
 
2012-05-04 12:55:05 AM  
There's a fascination with "how it's made"?

I watch the show... it's interesting to know details of things on occasion or the hand work of some expensive items but most of it is stuff I already know in one way or another.

I thought most people now had no interest in making things. Maybe there's hope yet.

BTW, there's a how it's made segment that was filmed where I work. Sadly not one of my products. Maybe some day.
 
2012-05-04 01:13:28 AM  

Optimal_Illusion: kyuzokai: My educatory TV fave has always been James Burke's Connections. I do enjoy some Mythbusters, though... even when I think they've overlooked an obvious variable.

I loved that show, and Acme School of Stuff. Also, Secret Life of Machines.


Probably a bit late for you to see this, but there's a YouTube channel with a bunch of segments from that show. Even after some 25 years it holds up quite well. David Stringer knew his stuff.

Acme School of Stuff
 
2012-05-04 02:24:10 AM  
Mr Wizard was awesome. We need an entire article just to say why Myth busters is popular?
 
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