LavenderWolf: TheAlmightyOS: D_Evans45: TheAlmightyOS: i wont hire skinny people because they are just not right in the head. all of them are just so damn smug about there anirexia


/am i doin it right?

It doeant work that way. That's like a bum accosting a bunch of rich people and nonsensically berating them. Also it lacks proper spelling, effort, another all around pijss poor attempt indicative of a true fatty.

all well. troll fail. never tried it, thought this might be the thread for it.

seriously though, why all the hate for the obese? Linking it to mental illness and the like? My girlfriend an I are overweight (mine is more a like of junkfood and not enough miles on the bike, hers is a medical issue) and we are some of the nicest, hard working people you may ever meet. Why all the rage cause I have a spare tire?

If you're still mobile and able, you're not the "morbidly obese" we are disgusted and frustrated by.

ah, so you are all talking about the 700#+ whales that can't be moved from their beds and are not found in most workplaces.

I see.

I guess i am seeing all the hateful comments and remembering how my girlfriend and I are treated on a daily basis. There is a real issue of discrimination here but it is not against the morbidly obese, it is against the pleasantly plump. And dont say it ain't there. I feel it in in the disgusted stares I get

/and the looks of confusion as i get on my bike and pedal away

Well, while they are out of work, they would have plenty of time to sort out all the other problems that led them to be fat and unhealthy. Fark them.

LavenderWolf: Here's the truth about bathrooms, from someone who cleans them for a living.

Women are disgusting. Men leak a little pee by the urinal, which is sterile and comes up with a mop no problem. Women leave blood on toilet seats, in stalls, they leave trash all over, piss all over the seat, shiat on the inside rim of the seat, bloody tampons/pads put in the sanitary napkin disposal but not in the bag.


Does anyone know why this is? I won't claim to have conducted a thorough study but it seems as though it is generally agreed on that woman's rooms are some sort of bio-hazard. I can't imagine a reason any human would not try to keep the bathroom in good shape yet the so called fairer sex apparently like to torture the living hell out of the cleaning crew?

How hard is it for most women to actually get their waste into the toilet? It can't be that hard and yet here we are with the disturbing truth...

Anyway regarding discriminating against fat men...I am absolutely in favor of doing so. Next time I see a fat man I am going to spear them with a harpoon. That will teach them.

Moonfisher: while men can be fat and bald.

Oh, thank God.

Obese(ready FATTY!!):




Overweight, to some, yet one of the most fappable creatures on earth:



DAT RACK!!!!


Could stand to lose some weight, but carries her "plus sized-ness" very well.


As long as you don't look like picture numero uno, you are not a land whale or obese in my book.

/Size 0 is disgusting
//Size Titantic is even more disgusting
///everything in between? Me likes em curvy. Just ask the wife.

LavenderWolf: Madame Psychosis: That's because the rest of us are sick of having to crank the AC to accommodate the big girl who is always hot, even in December. "It's so hot in here!" [fanning herself, wearing a sleeveless shirt] "Are you guys hot?" Meanwhile I'm at my desk with my hoodie up, a blanket on my lap, and another one around my shoulders, making typos because my fingers are numb.

And we're sick of having a potluck every other week.

/married to a fat guy, always at odds on what temperature it should be in the house/car

As a thin guy who absolutely can't stand heat, I sympathize with fat people there.

So much this. People who get unreasonably cold have circulation problems. Quit smoking and exercise once in a while. If that doesn't work, see a doctor. Just because you're thin doesn't mean you're healthy.

LavenderWolf: BohemianGraham: LavenderWolf: BohemianGraham: Strategeryz0r: BohemianGraham: I accidentally the n from men in that post. Whoops.

/definitely a clean, 100% natural female

Just what a disgusting pre-op would say!!!

Pics required for evidence!

I should totally have expected that from Fark, and was editing my post to prevent those assumptions but managed to draw attention to them anyways.

No pictures, because I'd rather not have my mug plastered all over the internets to prevent me from future job prospects.

Also, I'm pretty sure that despite being female, I'm far from meeting the high standards most cheeto-stained, beer swilling, sad farkers who still live in their parents basements hold of what a woman should look like. ;)

/is somewhat fat, yet goes against every stereotype this thread says she should be, as she only eat one small meal a day, gets a decent amount of exercise, has never missed a day of work for sick time nor does she have any serious health issues, is always freezing cold, and doesn't do nasty things in the washrooms at work, and has only broken furniture when moving it from one place to another because she didn't pack it properly, and doesn't have any serious mental problems unless you count being a Farker since 2006

"somewhat fat" is not obese.

You're including yourself in a group you don't meet the requirements for.

According to many of the men on Fark, including several in this thread, because I'm somewhat fat, I'm clearly a landwhale, because all fatties are evil regardless as to how much fat they possess, they are still fat, fat, fat, who needs to be fat elsewhere, and to put down the sammiches and lose weight, so I can go back to the kitchen and make sammiches for them ;)

Despite your humour, I really don't see any hate for the slightly overweight. I dunno. I could be wrong, but when I hear/see someone make a comment about "fat people" they're not talking about someone who has a little extra weight. Certainly I'm only talking about th ...

I am being snarky, but there are still some "studmans" that hang around fark. :)

greenboy: BohemianGraham: Strategeryz0r: BohemianGraham: I accidentally the n from men in that post. Whoops.

/definitely a clean, 100% natural female

Just what a disgusting pre-op would say!!!

Pics required for evidence!

I should totally have expected that from Fark, and was editing my post to prevent those assumptions but managed to draw attention to them anyways.

No pictures, because I'd rather not have my mug plastered all over the internets to prevent me from future job prospects.

Also, I'm pretty sure that despite being female, I'm far from meeting the high standards most cheeto-stained, beer swilling, sad farkers who still live in their parents basements hold of what a woman should look like. ;)

/is somewhat fat, yet goes against every stereotype this thread says she should be, as she only eat one small meal a day, gets a decent amount of exercise, has never missed a day of work for sick time nor does she have any serious health issues, is always freezing cold, and doesn't do nasty things in the washrooms at work, and has only broken furniture when moving it from one place to another because she didn't pack it properly, and doesn't have any serious mental problems unless you count being a Farker since 2006

Part of the problem. Your metabolism has acclimated to eating once a day, therefore it has slowed in order to conserve energy. You need 5-6 meals a day, with 3 of those being good protein, and the other 3 being snack style with some carbs. as someone mentioned before, misinformation and lack of real research has doomed fat people. YOu can look up diets and see how most of them are crap, yet people still do them and wonder why they don't lose weight.

//not fat, but weighs more than i have ever weighed

I'm well aware that my eating habits are bad, and I'm working at changing them, but as with all humans, change is hard and I'm a bit lazy, which is really no excuse, and I readily admit that.

There are also a lot of skinny people who hold the same habits, or worse, yet people don't tell them they're doing it wrong and people automatically assume that they're healthy, whereas anyone who's a fatty is automatically on death's doorstep.

8 inches: Lou Brown: It can work the other way as well. I know a lawyer who said he never hired attractive women because, well, he knew he was a horndog and didn't want to create any unnecessary problems in the office.

This! I will NOT higher a young woman that is attractive. I simply don't trust myself. True story.

Arnie tried that and look what happened.

Moonfisher: Also, for those of you making jokes about reinforced office chairs and toilet destruction, if you "read more" of this article, you will find that the same discrimination does not hold true for fat men, only fat women. So this isn't really discrimination against being fat, or costing more in insurance. It's a matter of women being expected to be sexually attractive to get ahead at work while men can be fat and bald.

It could be that. My vote is that it's the people remembering what their interactions with 90% of morbidly obese women were like, and stereotyping based on that.

I think the true workplace hate is for waddle-blobs that you get stuck walking behind as they have scillitating conversations where one relates a minor incident and the other one repeates the object phrase back at her as a disbelieving question every few seconds, such as:

Waddleblob #1: "So I wanted to make a cherry pie on Friday..
Waddleblob #2: "A cherry pie?"
WB#1: "Yes, a chery pie. But when I went to the cupboard I had no cherries.."
WB#2: "You had no cherries!?!?"
WB#1: "No! No cherries! Can you believe it? So I had Frank go to store to get..."
WB#2: "Frank went to the store?!?"

etc. etc.

LavenderWolf: Here's the truth about bathrooms, from someone who cleans them for a living.
Women are disgusting. Men leak a little pee by the urinal, which is sterile and comes up with a mop no problem. Women leave blood on toilet seats, in stalls, they leave trash all over, piss all over the seat, shiat on the inside rim of the seat, bloody tampons/pads put in the sanitary napkin disposal but not in the bag.

I don't know why this is ALWAYS brought up in threads. I cleaned a lot of bathrooms too, and I never found that the women were nastier than the men. Oh, but the men would come in while you were cleaning--stepping over the mops and buckets in the doorway--and start using using the urinal right in front of you. Hey, nice dick--not really.

Women bleed. Guys don't. And they're fussy little birds too, and they won't touch that stuff they just took out of their own body to make sure that they get it into the trash can right, or touch the toilet paper that they just used to line the toilet seat, even though they just sat on it and it has no one's germs on it except theirs. But nastier in general, like they shiat all over the toilet seats or something? Yeah, that never happened. I never had a woman come in while I was cleaning a stall and take a shiat right next door to me either.

And while I'm biatching, can you idiots stop taking a piss behind bushes and leaving a big pile of toilet paper there? I know you think you're in the "wilderness" and no one will ever see it, but you don't need to mark your spot. I'm very proud of you that you peed outdoors. You can go home and tell all your friends how you almost got eaten by a bear when you stepped 50 feet off the road.

TheAlmightyOS: /and the looks of confusion as i get on my bike and pedal away

Please.

We all know very well your fat ass would break even an adamantium reinforced bike frame. Now go get on your Hover Round and go see your favorite movie, A Fridge Too Far. You fatty fatty fat fat.

So, would you rather women with a BMI of 26 or higher buy a pistol and eat it, or jump off of a bridge, or walk off of a building, or jump in front of a train, or jump for the third rail?

Enquiring minds and all that.

Presume that it will cost you, as a taxpayer, money on the cleanup and disposal, which method of self-removal from your perfectly sainted and August presences would you lovely barstards prefer these men and women who obviously aren't fit to breathe the same air as you apply to themselves?

Is it the same or different method you'd recommend for the long-term unemployed, those with mental illnesses, and those with disabilities of which you disapprove? Perhaps you could nominate and vote on a list of inappropriate disabilities and number of months of lacking gainful employment after which one should do the "decent thing" and remove ones' self from the society of one's betters?

Question for the formerly fatties in the thread (and wall 'o text):

A buddy of mine is of average height and pushing four bills. He's always been big, but owing in part to a medical condition requiring chronic steroid use, he's gotten really bad in the last three or four years. He knows, intellectually, that he needs to lose weight and take better care of himself, but he doesn't seem to be doing anything about it. He's not taking steps he needs to take.

As his friends/family, what (if anything) can we do to help? We can't compel him to go to the gym or stop eating take-out Chinese, and getting on his case about losing weight is both dickish and counterproductive (I'm not even sure how to broach the topic, frankly). At the same time, shrugging and saying "well, we've talked about it, he knows, he just doesn't do" (not enabling, per se, but also not getting actively involved) doesn't seem to be enough - it's been this way for a long time, with no signs of changing.

Is there anything your friends/family did to help kick the snowball down the hill?

/He's been seeing a therapist and taking meds for depression for a year or so, which has helped his outlook on life a bit, but hasn't led to any significant weight loss or change in eating habits.

Julie Cochrane: So, would you rather women with a BMI of 26 or higher buy a pistol and eat it, or jump off of a bridge, or walk off of a building, or jump in front of a train, or jump for the third rail?

Enquiring minds and all that.

Presume that it will cost you, as a taxpayer, money on the cleanup and disposal, which method of self-removal from your perfectly sainted and August presences would you lovely barstards prefer these men and women who obviously aren't fit to breathe the same air as you apply to themselves?

Is it the same or different method you'd recommend for the long-term unemployed, those with mental illnesses, and those with disabilities of which you disapprove? Perhaps you could nominate and vote on a list of inappropriate disabilities and number of months of lacking gainful employment after which one should do the "decent thing" and remove ones' self from the society of one's betters?

Gastric bypass. Worked for Al Roker.

Though it sounds like you may have tranquilizer him first.

Cymbal: TheAlmightyOS: /and the looks of confusion as i get on my bike and pedal away

Please.

We all know very well your fat ass would break even an adamantium reinforced bike frame. Now go get on your Hover Round and go see your favorite movie, A Fridge Too Far. You fatty fatty fat fat.

Actualy just the aluminum frame i have now works fine.

/is that what a troll looks like?
//still new to the whole concept of trolling

Jubeebee: But if you can squat 350, you probably aren't too worried about getting out of shape

Not saying you or the guy you were responding too is out of shape, but there are "strong" people who are in terrible shape, especially if you don't look at the strength/weight ratio.

Julie Cochrane: So, would you rather women with a BMI of 26 or higher buy a pistol and eat it, or jump off of a bridge, or walk off of a building, or jump in front of a train, or jump for the third rail?

Enquiring minds and all that.

Presume that it will cost you, as a taxpayer, money on the cleanup and disposal, which method of self-removal from your perfectly sainted and August presences would you lovely barstards prefer these men and women who obviously aren't fit to breathe the same air as you apply to themselves?

Is it the same or different method you'd recommend for the long-term unemployed, those with mental illnesses, and those with disabilities of which you disapprove? Perhaps you could nominate and vote on a list of inappropriate disabilities and number of months of lacking gainful employment after which one should do the "decent thing" and remove ones' self from the society of one's betters?

I'd prefer they stop making excuses, take some responsibility, and lose the weight.

robertus: Is there anything your friends/family did to help kick the snowball down the hill?

I was twenty-five, a university graduate, and five hundred pounds overweight. I wouldn't have seen thirty if my dad and brother hadn't drugged and kidnapped me one night. I woke up on the jungle floor with nothing more than a water canteen, fatigues, and hiking sneakers. It took me three years to find my way out of that godforsaken place, filled with poisonous snakes, biting flies, stinging nettles, and even tigers. I ate only what I could capture and kill. I walked anywhere from between 3 to 25 miles a day, depending on the terrain. Over the years of wandering, I lost all the weight and then some. I actually almost starved to death which taught me something about food's place in my life. I made it, barely.

I couldn't wait to see my dad and brother when I got home. It was really something what they did to me. I went to their house in the middle of the night and decapitated them both with a hammer. I wouldn't have had the strength or stamina to murder them in their sleep had I not committed myself to losing the weight.

Strategeryz0r: Obese(ready FATTY!!):




That woman looks like an obese version of my mother. It is scary. I have had friends fwd that pic to me, and be like, DUDE! THIS IS YOUR MOM IF SHE WAS A FAT fark!

TheAlmightyOS: D_Evans45: TheAlmightyOS: i wont hire skinny people because they are just not right in the head. all of them are just so damn smug about there anirexia


/am i doin it right?

It doeant work that way. That's like a bum accosting a bunch of rich people and nonsensically berating them. Also it lacks proper spelling, effort, another all around pijss poor attempt indicative of a true fatty.

all well. troll fail. never tried it, thought this might be the thread for it.

seriously though, why all the hate for the obese? Linking it to mental illness and the like? My girlfriend an I are overweight (mine is more a like of junkfood and not enough miles on the bike, hers is a medical issue) and we are some of the nicest, hard working people you may ever meet. Why all the rage cause I have a spare tire?

Because being "nice" in our society doesn't matter. We're all expected to try and be nice. What matters is money and sexual appeal. Most of us don't have money so we let that slide. Sexual appeale is where we get nasty with each other. We're not allowed to make fun of the mentally handicapped for their looks, nor people who were genuinely born ugly so we take our rage out on the only people society still allows us to hurt, fatties. As a fatty I understand this. But, I also hate looking at other fat people, especially when they are not displaying the right amount of shame or embarrassment for being fat. I'm talking about those fat women who insist on raping a pair of yoga pants and then walking around the city for all to witness.

Gergesa: LavenderWolf: Here's the truth about bathrooms, from someone who cleans them for a living.

Women are disgusting. Men leak a little pee by the urinal, which is sterile and comes up with a mop no problem. Women leave blood on toilet seats, in stalls, they leave trash all over, piss all over the seat, shiat on the inside rim of the seat, bloody tampons/pads put in the sanitary napkin disposal but not in the bag.


Does anyone know why this is? I won't claim to have conducted a thorough study but it seems as though it is generally agreed on that woman's rooms are some sort of bio-hazard. I can't imagine a reason any human would not try to keep the bathroom in good shape yet the so called fairer sex apparently like to torture the living hell out of the cleaning crew?

How hard is it for most women to actually get their waste into the toilet? It can't be that hard and yet here we are with the disturbing truth...

Anyway regarding discriminating against fat men...I am absolutely in favor of doing so. Next time I see a fat man I am going to spear them with a harpoon. That will teach them.

Women have this strange thing against actually sitting on the toilet or touching anything that has touched the toilet.

spentmiles: Spaced Lion: I'm with you guys. Having to drop ~$40 this weekend on a new bra for Mrs. Lion kinda sucks (in that it's $40), but asking a sales rep if they carry EE-F sizes will be more than worth it.

Forty bucks? Why don't you just duct tape some old rags to a wire coat hanger, put a bread twist-tie bow on the front, and call it good? My wife has some big, fat sperm targets too, and I don't think I've ever spent less than a hundred on one of her bras. You keep going with the cheap shiat, and she'll be tucking them into the waist band of her sweatpants.

you buy gold electron plated Monster Brand cables, too, I'll bet. Look, a large breasted woman needs a good quality bra for certain, but NO you don't need to pay 100 bucks for one. My wife is large breasted. She claims that the best bra she has ever owned is the one she wears now - pad on the straps, comfortable, gives her the support she needs, looks good, all the stitching is well done. It has lasted her now for quite some time. It was 24 dollars. One of the worst she ever claims to have had was an expensive 100+ bra that had all sorts of claims about support, durability, the works. It fell apart in about a month.

yeah you should probably not buy 10 dollar bras at wal-mart if you have big breasts but you don't need to spend a fortune for quality and in many cases high prices does NOT mean quality. It means they saw you coming.

robertus: Question for the formerly fatties in the thread (and wall 'o text):

The short answer is that there is effectively nothing you can do. The key to long term weight loss is a lifestyle change not a diet. Until he's willing to commit to fixing his lifestyle there's not much you can do.

Given that, "Weight Watchers for Men" is a pretty good program and helps obfuscate that you are calorie restricted with the point system. If you can convince him to try that method or even get a few people to participate in the program with him it may help. What probably won't help are the Nutra-System meal plans, because those don't promote a lifestyle change. On the up side, based on his weight he's already fairly strong so weight training may also help him get exercise. He'll see a massive weight progression at first which might help.

I'm personally using "lose it" which is essentially WW for poor people. It's not super intrusive and it does work. Disclaimer: my weakness is snacking as a replacement for cigarettes. If I have to log it in a tracker it becomes more of a pain in the ass to grab a snack. I don't do any appreciable exercise because I hate running, I literally never learned to ride a bike and the gym annoys me. However, three days a week of unarmored and armored longsword does enough.

robertus: getting on his case about losing weight is both dickish and counterproductive (I'm not even sure how to broach the topic, frankly).

Just to clarify, we've "had the talk" on a couple of occasions over the years. It's the "keep bringing it up" that seems dickish and counterproductive, and I'm not sure how to broach the topic without coming across like I'm busting his chops or nagging.

/that sounded a lot clearer in my head. Boss keeps interrupting me.

spentmiles: robertus: Is there anything your friends/family did to help kick the snowball down the hill?

I was twenty-five, a university graduate, and five hundred pounds overweight. I wouldn't have seen thirty if my dad and brother hadn't drugged and kidnapped me one night. I woke up on the jungle floor with nothing more than a water canteen, fatigues, and hiking sneakers. It took me three years to find my way out of that godforsaken place, filled with poisonous snakes, biting flies, stinging nettles, and even tigers. I ate only what I could capture and kill. I walked anywhere from between 3 to 25 miles a day, depending on the terrain. Over the years of wandering, I lost all the weight and then some. I actually almost starved to death which taught me something about food's place in my life. I made it, barely.

I couldn't wait to see my dad and brother when I got home. It was really something what they did to me. I went to their house in the middle of the night and decapitated them both with a hammer. I wouldn't have had the strength or stamina to murder them in their sleep had I not committed myself to losing the weight.

I'm glad that I'm alone at work right now, that sir is hilarious

spentmiles: robertus: Is there anything your friends/family did to help kick the snowball down the hill?

I was twenty-five, a university graduate, and five hundred pounds overweight. I wouldn't have seen thirty if my dad and brother hadn't drugged and kidnapped me one night. I woke up on the jungle floor with nothing more than a water canteen, fatigues, and hiking sneakers. It took me three years to find my way out of that godforsaken place, filled with poisonous snakes, biting flies, stinging nettles, and even tigers. I ate only what I could capture and kill. I walked anywhere from between 3 to 25 miles a day, depending on the terrain. Over the years of wandering, I lost all the weight and then some. I actually almost starved to death which taught me something about food's place in my life. I made it, barely.

I couldn't wait to see my dad and brother when I got home. It was really something what they did to me. I went to their house in the middle of the night and decapitated them both with a hammer. I wouldn't have had the strength or stamina to murder them in their sleep had I not committed myself to losing the weight.

I am calling BS.

ITT: insecure, angsty thin folk.

frepnog: spentmiles: Spaced Lion: I'm with you guys. Having to drop ~$40 this weekend on a new bra for Mrs. Lion kinda sucks (in that it's $40), but asking a sales rep if they carry EE-F sizes will be more than worth it.

Forty bucks? Why don't you just duct tape some old rags to a wire coat hanger, put a bread twist-tie bow on the front, and call it good? My wife has some big, fat sperm targets too, and I don't think I've ever spent less than a hundred on one of her bras. You keep going with the cheap shiat, and she'll be tucking them into the waist band of her sweatpants.

you buy gold electron plated Monster Brand cables, too, I'll bet. Look, a large breasted woman needs a good quality bra for certain, but NO you don't need to pay 100 bucks for one. My wife is large breasted. She claims that the best bra she has ever owned is the one she wears now - pad on the straps, comfortable, gives her the support she needs, looks good, all the stitching is well done. It has lasted her now for quite some time. It was 24 dollars. One of the worst she ever claims to have had was an expensive 100+ bra that had all sorts of claims about support, durability, the works. It fell apart in about a month.

yeah you should probably not buy 10 dollar bras at wal-mart if you have big breasts but you don't need to spend a fortune for quality and in many cases high prices does NOT mean quality. It means they saw you coming.

Wow, did you know that there are pictures of your wife's tits on the internet?

robertus: Question for the formerly fatties in the thread (and wall 'o text):

A buddy of mine is of average height and pushing four bills. He's always been big, but owing in part to a medical condition requiring chronic steroid use, he's gotten really bad in the last three or four years. He knows, intellectually, that he needs to lose weight and take better care of himself, but he doesn't seem to be doing anything about it. He's not taking steps he needs to take.

As his friends/family, what (if anything) can we do to help? We can't compel him to go to the gym or stop eating take-out Chinese, and getting on his case about losing weight is both dickish and counterproductive (I'm not even sure how to broach the topic, frankly). At the same time, shrugging and saying "well, we've talked about it, he knows, he just doesn't do" (not enabling, per se, but also not getting actively involved) doesn't seem to be enough - it's been this way for a long time, with no signs of changing.

Is there anything your friends/family did to help kick the snowball down the hill?

/He's been seeing a therapist and taking meds for depression for a year or so, which has helped his outlook on life a bit, but hasn't led to any significant weight loss or change in eating habits.

Lose weight yourself. Don't try and get him to do it with you, just do it. My friend/roommate was within 20 lbs of me 6 months ago, and today we're three dress sizes apart. She's doing a goddamn triathlon this weekend, and she loves food more than I ever will. If she can do that plus working plus grad school, I can make some time to drop 20 lbs. And I know she's got tricks figured out, and won't judge.

/yes, I'm farking jealous. I wish I had her ass.
//coveting, you might say.

spentmiles: frepnog: spentmiles: Spaced Lion: I'm with you guys. Having to drop ~$40 this weekend on a new bra for Mrs. Lion kinda sucks (in that it's $40), but asking a sales rep if they carry EE-F sizes will be more than worth it.

Forty bucks? Why don't you just duct tape some old rags to a wire coat hanger, put a bread twist-tie bow on the front, and call it good? My wife has some big, fat sperm targets too, and I don't think I've ever spent less than a hundred on one of her bras. You keep going with the cheap shiat, and she'll be tucking them into the waist band of her sweatpants.

you buy gold electron plated Monster Brand cables, too, I'll bet. Look, a large breasted woman needs a good quality bra for certain, but NO you don't need to pay 100 bucks for one. My wife is large breasted. She claims that the best bra she has ever owned is the one she wears now - pad on the straps, comfortable, gives her the support she needs, looks good, all the stitching is well done. It has lasted her now for quite some time. It was 24 dollars. One of the worst she ever claims to have had was an expensive 100+ bra that had all sorts of claims about support, durability, the works. It fell apart in about a month.

yeah you should probably not buy 10 dollar bras at wal-mart if you have big breasts but you don't need to spend a fortune for quality and in many cases high prices does NOT mean quality. It means they saw you coming.

Wow, did you know that there are pictures of your wife's tits on the internet?

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I don't know, that pic looks awfully pixellated. Perhaps if I spent the extra $100 on gold electron plated cables I would have a higher HD experience.

Strategeryz0r: CSB time! Although relatively gross.

I work in the IT department of a call center.Well one day I get notified to disable user accounts and badges for this gal, and our cleaning lady. ... The walls, the floor, the toilet, it's EVERYWHERE. Multiple people inform Dave that the whale was the last one seen entering said bathroom, so he pulls her aside to find out what happ ...

This story makes no sense. People are not terminated for being afraid to leave their seats and having accidents in the restroom... except that's just what you described.

Two women were terminated on the same day: one, because management is lacking*, and the second because she was upset. Why wasn't the call center person allowed to go home and take a day off and get over her embarassment? It makes no sense to fire her.

Why was the cleaning lady not comforted, and offered something in exchange for working extra (since it doesn't sound like the center had the chemicals on hand to deal with something of that nature, which doesn't make sense in itself, again)? The cleaning lady was expressing frustration, but that's not the same as actually quiting, or allowing her to quit.

Something is wrong with this story.

I put an asterisk after 'management is lacking', because people aren't fired for having medical conditions, or embarassing days. The woman expressed that she was afraid to leave the call. People have to use the restroom; and if people don't make a habit of it, I don't see the problem with getting emergency relief over to an employee. Management is lacking because a) there was no one available to offer that emergency relief to the employee, and b) the woman was obviously scared to death of leaving her post and losing her job.. which she ended up losing anyway.

The cleaning lady probably wasn't paid enough for what she had to put up with, and it had nothing to do with the obese women; it probably had to do with that male hiring manager and with people in management who shared his attitude and your attitude.

It just sounds like a very bad, very negative office environment all around. Nothing to do with the 'whales'. Everything to do with the front office.

Is there any hint about which company was responsible for this, so as to avoid doing business with them? You don't have to say their name outright..... unless you've already done so later in the thread. Just a hint will do.

robertus: Question for the formerly fatties in the thread (and wall 'o text):

A buddy of mine is of average height and pushing four bills. He's always been big, but owing in part to a medical condition requiring chronic steroid use, he's gotten really bad in the last three or four years. He knows, intellectually, that he needs to lose weight and take better care of himself, but he doesn't seem to be doing anything about it. He's not taking steps he needs to take.

As his friends/family, what (if anything) can we do to help? We can't compel him to go to the gym or stop eating take-out Chinese, and getting on his case about losing weight is both dickish and counterproductive (I'm not even sure how to broach the topic, frankly). At the same time, shrugging and saying "well, we've talked about it, he knows, he just doesn't do" (not enabling, per se, but also not getting actively involved) doesn't seem to be enough - it's been this way for a long time, with no signs of changing.

Is there anything your friends/family did to help kick the snowball down the hill?

/He's been seeing a therapist and taking meds for depression for a year or so, which has helped his outlook on life a bit, but hasn't led to any significant weight loss or change in eating habits.

You're not going to like my answer, but here it is.

Your buddy is doing a whole heck of a lot about his health. He's treating the medical condition he has with long-term steroid use. He's treating his depression. That's two big conditions he's addressing right there.

Your buddy is not superhuman. Just like women can't have it all--we can't be a supermodel and the June Cleaver stay-home mom and a trailblazing corporate executive and fark like a porn star, etc. Your buddy can't do it all with taking care of his body. All of us, sooner or later---some of us sooner---have our bodies overwhelm us with more medical and mental health problems than we can keep up with.

Individually, there may be things we could do, lifestyle factors, meds we could take, regimens we could follow, and so forth, about each thing that goes wrong with us. All together, as each new thing goes wrong with us, more and more we get put in a bind where we have problem A become worse because of problem B.

In your buddy's case, the trouble with being hefty (problem A) he's always had was made worse when he got problem B that required the steroids. Now theoretically he could "lifestyle factors" around problem A, but the combination of problems A and B have influenced problem C (the depression) that he's had to start fighting, because if untreated, problem C is a potential game-ender all by itself.

And so on and so forth.

Your buddy cannot be Supermodel, and Supermom, and Superfeminist Corporate Exec, and SuperPornStar and PTA President all in one. It's just too much.

What I would recommend is a book "Eat This, Not That." I think that's what it's called. It suggests some simple substitutions. Your buddy may be able to make some simple substitutions. Or he may not. If he can, I'd call it a win and be grateful. If he can't, well, that's too bad.

Other than that, I'd say start small, be satisfied with any small, consistent lifestyle changes you can get---no matter how small, and don't treat them as the camel's nose under the tent where he can't win no matter how much he does. Adjust your expectations to the reality that he can't do it all, and then try to look for what is reasonably possible without overwhelming him. When in doubt, think small.

disgustip8ed: Aracnix: @BiffDangler: That'd be the vast majority of the human population.

Otherwise...

Speaking from personal experience, when I went from 260 lbs to 155 lbs, the journey was very enlightening. The smaller I got, the more people noticed me. Thinner = more approachable. I look at people who are the size I was then, and they frighten me. I wonder what they are hiding or what happened to them to make them so dependent on food. Because food *is* addictive and it *is* ubiquitous and, while being fat is socially unacceptable, eating a lot of food isn't. So good luck making sense out of that. For my own part - and I think I speak for most obese folks - no one ever taught me HOW to take good care of myself. 20 years of dieting through every bland, boring, tasteless and predictable program you can imagine never helped and it's really discouraging. You get to the point where you can't think of yourself as anything but fat, and then you're done. Once your self-perception is "I'm fat, I've always been fat and I'll always be fat," it is impossible to be anything BUT fat.

You can't change your body until you change your mind.


//the more you know

THIS

I'd also add this, as someone who is losing the weight I've felt I've always had, it enrages me any time I here some fat person complain about discrimination, and say being fat is ok. It's not okay. You're lying to yourself, and worse, you are perpetuating the idea that being fat is okay. It's like saying being addicted to meth is okay. All you're doing is making an excuse to not except the fact you are failing as a person, and you have for a long time. Instead it is just easier to say 'Hey, I'm okay. It's everyone else that is wrong.' In doing so, you're just fostering this repugnant notion that ignoring self control and being accountable to yourself, and for yourself, is perfectly fine. It's not. Fat people, stop doing that. Then again, if you could 'stop' yourself from doing anything we wouldn't need this discussion.


Y'all both sound like ex-alcoholics ;) The militant kind.

spentmiles: frepnog: spentmiles: Spaced Lion: I'm with you guys. Having to drop ~$40 this weekend on a new bra for Mrs. Lion kinda sucks (in that it's $40), but asking a sales rep if they carry EE-F sizes will be more than worth it.

Forty bucks? Why don't you just duct tape some old rags to a wire coat hanger, put a bread twist-tie bow on the front, and call it good? My wife has some big, fat sperm targets too, and I don't think I've ever spent less than a hundred on one of her bras. You keep going with the cheap shiat, and she'll be tucking them into the waist band of her sweatpants.

you buy gold electron plated Monster Brand cables, too, I'll bet. Look, a large breasted woman needs a good quality bra for certain, but NO you don't need to pay 100 bucks for one. My wife is large breasted. She claims that the best bra she has ever owned is the one she wears now - pad on the straps, comfortable, gives her the support she needs, looks good, all the stitching is well done. It has lasted her now for quite some time. It was 24 dollars. One of the worst she ever claims to have had was an expensive 100+ bra that had all sorts of claims about support, durability, the works. It fell apart in about a month.

yeah you should probably not buy 10 dollar bras at wal-mart if you have big breasts but you don't need to spend a fortune for quality and in many cases high prices does NOT mean quality. It means they saw you coming.

Wow, did you know that there are pictures of your wife's tits on the internet?

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trust me, that is funny but not accurate.

/consider myself a pretty luck guy in the "wife" department. Hell, some days it is like I won the damn wife lottery.

Moonfisher: I don't care what weight a potential employee is as long as they are qualified, have the right attitude, and dress well. You can be plump and still dress classy. Slobs are ignored no matter what their weight.

Also, for those of you making jokes about reinforced office chairs and toilet destruction, if you "read more" of this article, you will find that the same discrimination does not hold true for fat men, only fat women. So this isn't really discrimination against being fat, or costing more in insurance. It's a matter of women being expected to be sexually attractive to get ahead at work while men can be fat and bald.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
except the first two pages of this thread explain why that is
and why that won't change

kab: ITT: insecure, angsty thin folk.

I noticed your finger was so heavy you typed T twice. You must be exhausted after typing all that. Why don't you go take five in the lactation room while the thin folk cover for your fat ass.

TheAlmightyOS: Why all the rage cause I have a spare tire?

Well, racism isn't all that cool anymore, and making fun of folks for religion / drug addiction / alcohol addiction is just boring. Physical / mental handicap mockery is mostly frowned upon also.

But folks need something to feed their superiority complexes, so sadly we have these threads.

I received a phone call from a gorgeous ex-girlfriend this moring who "out of the blue" called to see if I was still around.


We lost track of time, chatting about the wild, romantic times we used to enjoy together.


I couldn't believe it when she asked if I'd be interested in meeting up and rekindling a little of that 'old magic'


'Wow!' I was flabbergasted.


'I don't know if I could keep pace with you now', I said, 'I'm a bit older


and a bit grayer and balder than when you last saw me. Plus I don't really have the energy I used to have.'


She just giggled and said she was sure I would 'rise to the challenge'.


'Yeah.' I said. 'Just so long as you don't mind a waistline that's a few inches wider these days! Not to mention my total lack of muscle tone...everything is sagging, my teeth are a bit yellowed and I am developing jowls like a Great Dane!'


She laughed and told me to stop being so silly.


She teased me saying that tubby, gray haired, older men were cute, and she was sure I would still be a great lover.


Anyway, she giggled and said, 'I've put on a few pounds myself!'


So I told her to fark off.

ExperianScaresCthulhu: It just sounds like a very bad, very negative office environment all around. Nothing to do with the 'whales'. Everything to do with the front office.

Is there any hint about which company was responsible for this, so as to avoid doing business with them? You don't have to say their name outright..... unless you've already done so later in the thread. Just a hint will do.

FWIW he's described every corporate call center in the US. The realities of the corporate call center are as follows:

1) If you are measured on metrics in a call center it's nearly always the following: number of calls per shift, AHT (average handle time per call) and first call resolution.

2) You are also expected to be in your seat, with your PC on and your phone logged in at the start of your shift (often a 15-20 minute process due to old hardware, corporate required crapware and corporate spyware/malware/monitoring software) without being compensated for the time to do so.

3) You get 2 15 minute breaks and a lunch break, otherwise you are to be in your chair with no exceptions.

If you fail to follow the HR policies above you get 1 warning, 1 written warning and then termination. They do this because you can be replaced with almost no issues. It was this way in all four call centers that I've personally worked in.

Because call centers are run that way they are stressful for the people doing the actual work, so there's a higher incidence of smoking, alcoholism and obesity. Additionally, because the agent is measured on how fast they can turn a call over you don't get any service level beyond the minimum. Worst case scenario, you get Peggy.

Huggermugger: Just own the fact that men divide half the population into f*ckable and non-f*ckable. It has absolutely nothing to do with self-respect or health insurance or smelling bad.

/fat
//also ugly, so I get treated with as much contempt whether I'm 200 or 120

End thread (with a 'whateva' tossed in for your second slashy).

Why would I hire an unattractive woman when I can just hire a man for the job instead?

Cymbal: kab: ITT: insecure, angsty thin folk.

I noticed your finger was so heavy you typed T twice. You must be exhausted after typing all that. Why don't you go take five in the lactation room while the thin folk cover for your fat ass.

After getting up to walk over to the lactation room he may well be winded. You should let him take 15 instead. Also have the Rascal scooter ready for when he gets out. Don't want him to strain himself walking back to his work station.