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2012-05-02 09:27:13 PM
nekom: There is absolutely NO excuse for leaving a child unattended in the building, under ANY circumstances but I do wonder if the father was way late. If they were closing up for the day, shouldn't he have already picked the kid up by then? Where my daughter goes to pre-school if no one shows up they won't leave but they will bill you for child care. As far as I know that's never come up there.

/still absolutely unacceptable, whatever the circumstances may be


Our daycare 1) charges you a fine, and 2) takes your kid to the local police station and leaves them there.

Never happened to me, but i know one of the other parents who've had it happen to them.
 
2012-05-02 09:32:59 PM
KidneyStone: Don't have kids and this will not be a problem. If you have kids that young I hear they can fetch a pretty penny.

When my brother was a year old, my parents were on their first tour in Okinawa. Some dude offered my mom a couple thousand for him.

I've never really forgiven her for passing up the offer.
 
2012-05-02 09:33:46 PM
FTA

the Paquettes say they've found a new preschool.

Oh FFS... like it would ever happen to them again.

Besides, they could have negotiated down their rates by at least half I'd bet.
 
2012-05-02 09:34:50 PM
I have to say, they are very lucky that wasn't me. I'd have made sure there were no other kids in the building, then burned the sumbiatch down.
 
2012-05-02 09:35:49 PM
netizencain: Other side of the story:

Despite repeated warnings not to be late because the school closed at exactly five, and a written warning, "Next time you butt is late in picking up your kid, we're going to live him locked up and you can wait for us in the morning, " asshat father was still late.


The concept of a threat is that you are not supposed to follow through with it. Especially if it involves child endangerment and your business is built around thinking of the children.
 
2012-05-02 09:36:04 PM
The thing that always pissed me off about daycare providers was the HOURS... usually something like "7:30am-5:30PM" - Like, WTF? Many jobs my wife or I worked had hours that were just outside that range, even worse when there was a commute involved.

You are paying them to care for your children while you work. You'd think they would have a more extended hour range. I realize they need to get home too, but surely they could stagger a few "Early arrival/late departure" care providers to handle a wider range of hours to accommodate a realistic schedule.
 
2012-05-02 09:36:38 PM
SilentStrider: I must really be getting jaded. I was expecting to see that the guy was then arrested for breaking and entering.

You're not alone. Wait for the owner of that place to try and file charges. I won't be the least bit surprised if it happens.
 
2012-05-02 09:36:59 PM
Salt Lick Steady: KidneyStone: Don't have kids and this will not be a problem. If you have kids that young I hear they can fetch a pretty penny.

When my brother was a year old, my parents were on their first tour in Okinawa. Some dude offered my mom a couple thousand for him.

I've never really forgiven her for passing up the offer.


Was it this guy?
terpsboy.com
 
2012-05-02 09:37:06 PM
LesserEvil: The thing that always pissed me off about daycare providers was the HOURS... usually something like "7:30am-5:30PM" - Like, WTF? Many jobs my wife or I worked had hours that were just outside that range, even worse when there was a commute involved.

You are paying them to care for your children while you work. You'd think they would have a more extended hour range. I realize they need to get home too, but surely they could stagger a few "Early arrival/late departure" care providers to handle a wider range of hours to accommodate a realistic schedule.


Parents were the original daycare providers.
 
2012-05-02 09:39:05 PM
nekom: There is absolutely NO excuse for leaving a child unattended in the building, under ANY circumstances but I do wonder if the father was way late. If they were closing up for the day, shouldn't he have already picked the kid up by then? Where my daughter goes to pre-school if no one shows up they won't leave but they will bill you for child care. As far as I know that's never come up there.

/still absolutely unacceptable, whatever the circumstances may be


Yeah, I didn't rtfa, but I've had a kid in day care... if you're late, there will be phone calls and they will charge you a buttload, and eventually a pissed off daycare worker will be inconvenienced. But that should be the end of it.

And if you're truly a dumbfark, they should be calling the 2nd and 3rd people on your child's contact list, and eventually the authorities.

/closest I ever got to anything was when there was a miscommunication and they called me to say my ex didn't show up. giving her the benefit of the doubt, she made arrangements but one of the workers was just out of the loop.. I still showed up and took care of it in about 5 minutes.
 
2012-05-02 09:39:39 PM
I know a guy who accidentally left their car parked in an underground parking structure after it closed, and he had to wait until the next day to get his car out. This is kind of like that, right?
 
2012-05-02 09:39:41 PM
He called his wife, and she called a teacher, who returned to the school.
They heard crying from inside, so Paquette broke a window to get to his daughter.


Strange that the teacher returned but apparently didn't have keys.
 
2012-05-02 09:42:53 PM
twfeline: Doofus dad leaves himself open for lawsuit. Better to call the police, and let them decide whether to kick in the window or call the phone number listed on the door and have somebody come unlock the place.

I was going to post something like this, but then I RTFA:

He called his wife, and she called a teacher, who returned to the school.
They heard crying from inside, so Paquette broke a window to get to his daughter.


He actually had a school employee with him, which sounds like the right thing to do. What's stupid is the fact that that employee did not have a key to the building or the means to contact someone who does.
 
2012-05-02 09:43:23 PM
netizencain: Other side of the story:

Despite repeated warnings not to be late because the school closed at exactly five, and a written warning, "Next time you butt is late in picking up your kid, we're going to live him locked up and you can wait for us in the morning, " asshat father was still late.


That's an empty threat - "You're child will be kicked out of daycare and you will be held financially responsible for the full length of your contract immediately" is what should have happened. Instead the guy is going to sue the ever loving shiat out of these people, win, and STILL be late the next time to pick his kid up.
 
2012-05-02 09:45:18 PM
TomD9938: FTA

the Paquettes say they've found a new preschool.

Oh FFS... like it would ever happen to them again.

Besides, they could have negotiated down their rates by at least half I'd bet.


I'm guessing the parents asked themselves the following questions.

Do we want to go for a reduced rate and leave our kid in the hands of the people who locked her in the building once?

Do we want to pay the full rate to someone who will take care of the kid?
 
2012-05-02 09:45:26 PM
LesserEvil: The thing that always pissed me off about daycare providers was the HOURS... usually something like "7:30am-5:30PM" - Like, WTF? Many jobs my wife or I worked had hours that were just outside that range, even worse when there was a commute involved.

You are paying them to care for your children while you work. You'd think they would have a more extended hour range. I realize they need to get home too, but surely they could stagger a few "Early arrival/late departure" care providers to handle a wider range of hours to accommodate a realistic schedule.


Usually state regulators are to blame on this sort of thing - most daycare operators have to work within a "school day" period of time as defined by the state regulation agency.

/been doing a lot of research as the wife is going back to work and I need daycare for the little monsters.

//would do the same thing as this dad in a heartbeat.
 
2012-05-02 09:46:51 PM
AmberKitty: I remember a story a few years ago where a boy had been locked inside a daycare or school in Canada, overnight, and I think the temp was below freezing. Some of you farkers with more time can go ahead and fetch that.

Thought it would be easy to find, but instead I found daycare vans are more likely places for kids to be left overnight:

In Milwaukee:
Link

A different case in Milwaukee:
Link

In Georgia, the kid died:
Link

not in a van and link to actual story is dead, but:
baby left alone at daycare overnight, parents charged

There were a couple of other similar stories just on the first 2 pages of search results but I couldn't find the one in Canada.
 
2012-05-02 09:47:46 PM
Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Yeah, fark that. If my kid is locked inside an abandoned area, I'm getting in anyway I can, as quickly as I can. You go ahead and wait for the police, though

Exactly.
 
2012-05-02 09:47:48 PM
Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Parents were the original daycare providers.

If we looked all the way back to caveman days, certainly the infants would have been cared for almost exclusively by the cavemother.

I'd imagine though as the kids became cave-toddlers and cave-pre-teens, someone else watched over them while cave-dad was out driving a mammoth off a cliff and cave-mom was doing whatever the fark.

I could see one or more of the eldery cave women or even a disabled cave-man stuck with having to watch over all the little cave-bastards until they finally ran out of energy and went to sleep.
 
2012-05-02 09:48:38 PM
netizencain: Other side of the story:

Despite repeated warnings not to be late because the school closed at exactly five, and a written warning, "Next time you butt is late in picking up your kid, we're going to live him locked up and you can wait for us in the morning, " asshat father was still late.


So naturally, it's the kid that pays for it.

Great.
 
2012-05-02 09:49:39 PM
Hulk-dad SMASH!
 
2012-05-02 09:51:13 PM
Nightjars: I know a guy who accidentally left their car parked in an underground parking structure after it closed, and he had to wait until the next day to get his car out. This is kind of like that, right?

It's more like when you have to take the lid off the commode to jiggle the latch when you're in a hurry to make it to happy hour at the lodge.
 
2012-05-02 09:54:20 PM
PaLarkin: Do we want to go for a reduced rate and leave our kid in the hands of the people who locked her in the building once?

It's like that scene from the movie The World According to Garp where they're looking at a house they're considering buying.

While standing on the front lawn a small plane crashes into the side of the place.

Garp (Robin Williams) immediately says, "we'll take it".

His wife asks him why and he points out that the odds of that ever happening again are astronomical.

/perfect reasoning
 
2012-05-02 09:54:26 PM
Salt Lick Steady: Nightjars: I know a guy who accidentally left their car parked in an underground parking structure after it closed, and he had to wait until the next day to get his car out. This is kind of like that, right?

It's more like when you have to take the lid off the commode to jiggle the latch when you're in a hurry to make it to happy hour at the lodge.


I thought it was rather like when you're eating fries while driving, and you drop it in the little crack between the console and the seat, and you reach for it for a second but can't grab it, and then you.forget about it, but like 2 months later when you clean your car and you find it, and it still tastes good.
 
2012-05-02 09:56:08 PM
nekom: ... I do wonder if the father was way late. If they were closing up for the day, shouldn't he have already picked the kid up by then?

TFA: Keith Paquette says when he arrived at Westport Country Day School just after 5 p.m. Monday to pick up daughter Samantha Jo, the building was locked and no one was there.

I suppose some people would consider 5pm way late, but the preschool my kid is at gives you until 6pm -- then they start charging $1-10/minute
 
2012-05-02 09:58:26 PM
Westport, MA is my hometown. Wife went to school there. Not sure what the big deal is. I'd be pissed if I was the father, absolutely. But frankly I'm surprised it doesn't happen more often. Kids love to hide and this one just happened to do it on a day they goofed and had her grandmother marked down as picking her up. If she was there all night until the next day for some crazy reason, I could see this being newsworthy, but the place was closed for like 15 minutes.
 
2012-05-02 10:03:34 PM
Silence is Golden, Duct tape (on the otherhand) is Silver.
 
2012-05-02 10:05:48 PM
buckler: nekom: There is absolutely NO excuse for leaving a child unattended in the building, under ANY circumstances but I do wonder if the father was way late. If they were closing up for the day, shouldn't he have already picked the kid up by then? Where my daughter goes to pre-school if no one shows up they won't leave but they will bill you for child care. As far as I know that's never come up there.

/still absolutely unacceptable, whatever the circumstances may be

At the place I worked, the sequence was:

1: Call parent(s)

2: Call alternate contact(s)

3. Continue the above while charging for additional care

4. After two hours, contact police and CPS, release child and relevant information to their care.

Only had it happen once in 14 years. Each parent thought the other had picked up the kid. If we'd mistakenly marked the kid as picked up, and left the building without doing a final check, enough heads would roll to look like a bowling alley.


Remind me never to go bowling with you.
 
2012-05-02 10:06:44 PM
Larva Lump: I work just up the road from that place, so I'm getting a kick ... .
// A Boston newsvulture van was out there today. They looked lost. Probably using GPS.
// Saw it on the Providence news yesterday.


It is imperative that I see a picture of the daycare so that I can decide how offended to be.
 
2012-05-02 10:09:29 PM
There is no building that could have kept me out if I wanted in to recover my son bad enough.
 
2012-05-02 10:09:50 PM
Hillary Clinton's stolen line "it takes a village to raise a child" makes huge sense to me. WTH ever happened to someone staying at home and taking in a few children during the day? throughout my working career i heard so many parents complain how most of one of their two incomes went on childcare service. it is unfair to the parents, they work hard for the money.

The typical 1950's household had mom at home, dad's check covered all expenses and a lot of the families even had a weekend bungalow at a nearby lake. now both 'rents have to work and its still hard to make ends meet. bless you folks, i don't know how you do it.

worse yet for single parent households. holy crap. maybe people will share children in the future.
 
2012-05-02 10:10:45 PM
 
2012-05-02 10:11:09 PM
buckler: Only had it happen once in 14 years. Each parent thought the other had picked up the kid. If we'd mistakenly marked the kid as picked up, and left the building without doing a final check, enough heads would roll to look like a bowling alley.

Better than the alternative, where the parent forgets to drop the kid off, and goes to work and leaves the kid in the car.
 
2012-05-02 10:11:25 PM
netizencain: Other side of the story:

Despite repeated warnings not to be late because the school closed at exactly five, and a written warning, "Next time you butt is late in picking up your kid, we're going to live him locked up and you can wait for us in the morning, " asshat father was still late.


sounds good, but they had the kid checked off as being picked up.
 
2012-05-02 10:11:41 PM
cryinoutloud: Larva Lump: I work just up the road from that place, so I'm getting a kick ... .
// A Boston newsvulture van was out there today. They looked lost. Probably using GPS.
// Saw it on the Providence news yesterday.

It is imperative that I see a picture of the daycare so that I can decide how offended to be.


4.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-05-02 10:14:07 PM
Nothing worse than your ex coordinating a playdate and not telling you your kid is at her friends house instead of where she's supposed to be. I've done laps around schools and summer programs looking for my daughter , only to call the c*nt and have her say, oh she stayed home , or she's at her friends and btw you need to pick her up at X time. The panic you feel gradually mounts til you want to explode but can't until your stupid ex relieves your fears, but makes you want to throttle them. Then you have to feel slightly grateful for being relieved while still wanting to choke her out.
/Can't wait til her teen years telling two stories where she's at, where she's staying.
//Sweet, smart 10yr. old on honor roll, but she thinks like her mom slash I come first.
 
2012-05-02 10:16:28 PM
quickdraw: SilentStrider: I must really be getting jaded. I was expecting to see that the guy was then arrested for breaking and entering.

Then he'd have to sue them for abducting, imprisoning and abandoning his child.


He can't "sue" them for that. The DA charges people with criminal stuff. Dad can only sue for civil damages.
 
2012-05-02 10:19:54 PM
LoneDoggie: My kids daycare charged $5 per minute you were late past closing. In their words... "we'll wait ALL night"

Awesome plan.
 
2012-05-02 10:21:49 PM
laid back w/bud light: . I've done laps around schools and summer programs looking for my daughter , only to call the c*nt and have her say, oh she stayed home , or she's at her friends and btw you need to pick her up at X time. The panic you feel gradually mounts til you want to explode but can't until your stupid ex relieves your fears, but makes you want to throttle them. Then you have to feel slightly grateful for being relieved while still wanting to choke her out.

I think we have the same ex.
 
2012-05-02 10:28:14 PM
boozehat: netizencain: Other side of the story:

Despite repeated warnings not to be late because the school closed at exactly five, and a written warning, "Next time you butt is late in picking up your kid, we're going to live him locked up and you can wait for us in the morning, " asshat father was still late.

If the school wrote that note, "next time you butt is late" & "going to live him locked up" I would have pulled HER out of that place ASAP.

asshat.


No what they do is put the child in to state care for abandonment.
 
2012-05-02 10:34:57 PM
TomD9938
Was she an accountant that couldn't manage to live within her means on $120K a year? Did she come home on monday at lunch for a nooner th n tell you she wanted a divorce on sunday?
/I think you sense the crazy
 
2012-05-02 10:36:04 PM
SilentStrider: I must really be getting jaded. I was expecting to see that the guy was then arrested for breaking and entering.

It's not like he stole a loaf of bread or anything.

.
 
2012-05-02 10:57:15 PM
HERO tag busy for some reason?
 
2012-05-02 10:59:02 PM
And that's what a 99% success rate looks like.
 
2012-05-02 11:01:04 PM
laid back w/bud light: Was she an accountant that couldn't manage to live within her means on $120K a year

Nope.

Unaccomplished and crazy.

/have had sole custody for some time now...
 
2012-05-02 11:12:40 PM
sharkbeagle: And that's what a 99% success rate looks like.

Which is why they should move up from 4 sigma to 6 sigma.
 
2012-05-02 11:13:46 PM
Fano: cryinoutloud: Larva Lump: I work just up the road from that place, so I'm getting a kick ... .
// A Boston newsvulture van was out there today. They looked lost. Probably using GPS.
// Saw it on the Providence news yesterday.

It is imperative that I see a picture of the daycare so that I can decide how offended to be.

[4.bp.blogspot.com image 480x350]


Came for this.

1.bp.blogspot.com

/helping is futile
 
2012-05-02 11:23:01 PM
wambu: HERO tag busy for some reason?

Drew is at the server room with a brick trying to get the HERO tag out.
 
2012-05-02 11:31:47 PM
netizencain: Other side of the story:

Despite repeated warnings not to be late because the school closed at exactly five, and a written warning, "Next time you butt is late in picking up your kid, we're going to live him locked up and you can wait for us in the morning, " asshat father was still late.


Or a way to scam out of a financial commitment.
 
2012-05-02 11:35:49 PM
ABQGOD: wambu: HERO tag busy for some reason?

Drew is at the server room with a brick trying to get the HERO tag out.


I thought that was Mike's job.
 
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