swangoatman: I second the Who? and add a "don;t giva damn"
JohnBigBootay: TomD9938: Whoa... that's deep./and prolly trueYes. Rich or poor if you aren't in control of your mind you have nothing. Nevertheless we should continue, as a nation, defunding mental health programs. Because handouts just encourage more people to be crazy you know...
Zombie Hitler: A username is meaningless
vwarb: Where on earth did you ever get the idea that anyone is letting them do this?
hdhale: Let's also not talk about Rugby and Australian rules football, which have no protective gear and the players can hit each other just as hard as in any American football game.
Cyberluddite: Giant Clown Shoe: [4.bp.blogspot.com image 320x320]The natural consequence of our favorite bloodsport is often death./These guys die early. Sad but true.I'm not sure I see what's "natural" about intentionally blowing your brains out with a gun.
pedobearapproved: what about when Hitler offed himself? That was pretty farking funny.
TomD9938: Whoa... that's deep./and prolly true
muck4doo: I don't get it. Why would someone with a HOF career, loads of money, hot babes wanting him, and fame commit suicide? Us schmuck fans don't have any of that, but we're not sitting there offing ourselves.
Rebelution: If this was a suicide as reported, I wonder what this will do to the concussion talks around the NFL. My thoughts go out to his family.
Lt. Cheese Weasel: Flaming used to be an art
Hawnkee: Oh. Another dead jock. Big farking deal.
magicgoo: Another over-paid, self-absorbed, violent jock dead."Seau and his live-in girlfriend reportedly had a verbal argument at approximately 10 p.m. on Sunday before Seau assaulted her, causing mild injuries."Yeah. I'll try not to cry too hard.
JohnBigBootay: Yeah. I'm just playing devil's advocate. Because of, 'the other football player who shot himself in the chest was trying to save his brain so this must be the same thing" phenomenon. And of course that could certainly be why he chose that method. Then again, it may have absolutely nothing at all to do with it.
Eating Old People to Save Social Security: F**k you leaf
JorgiX: As for the corruption, yes it happens like with every other sport. Sometimes judges are just biased for the big name, but yes corruption is very prevalent and that is absolutely indefensible. Although boxers do earn MUCH more on average than MMA fighters and that is not even close.
Biness: He shot himself in the chest just like dave duerson.
magicgoo: I know, right? Considering I've made it to my mid-thirties without getting arrested for spousal abuse
muck4doo: magicgoo: muck4doo: magicgoo: Another over-paid, self-absorbed, violent jock dead."Seau and his live-in girlfriend reportedly had a verbal argument at approximately 10 p.m. on Sunday before Seau assaulted her, causing mild injuries."Yeah. I'll try not to cry too hard.You are so impressive.I know, right? Considering I've made it to my mid-thirties without getting arrested for spousal abuse or possibly endangering the lives of unsuspecting humans and/or animals as I drive my huge SUV off of a cliff at 70mph, I'd say I'm goddamned impressive. I will never have sympathy for this type of person or the losers who deem them, "heroes," simply because they are a celebrity ball-tosser. But, hey, keep on sticking up for the abusive tool who was too cowardly to deal with his issues like a real man; you know, that whole getting help thing.Whoa! Save some of the awesome for the rest of us. We might want to crap on someone who just passed away some time in the future.
Junior Seau didn't pass away. He intercepted away.
JohnBigBootay: the biggest redneck here: A logical assumption is not the same thing as a "wild unsubstantiated allegation" no matter how offended by the use of the term you pretend to be.I think what you are guilty of here, if you'd like to be technical (which I'm sure you do not) is referred to as a false dilemma. In that you fail to consider other reasonable alternatives. But you're right - your allegation was not that wild and may yet prove true. But there are are other reasonably likely causes. I won't be surprised in either event.
JohnBigBootay: the biggest redneck here: just the first of many to come.Thank you for wild unsubstantiated allegation. Won't be surprising if it's football related but regular people kill themselves every single day. We have no idea if this is related to football or not. Well, you know I guess, the rest of us will have to wait.
godxam: I have never cared so little.Location: Texas
godxam: I have never cared so little.
Silly Jesus: [i.cdn.turner.com image 640x698]
Unhip1: Strange things to consider:1. Died of a chest wound. Not your typical suicide choice....
Carousel Beast: AliceBToklasLives: Carousel Beast: EnderWiggnz: And for those of you saying that they're afraid that the NFL may have to change/go away. GOOD. It should. It causes permanent physical damage to an incredibly large amount of the population, from pee-wee league through the NFL.That's an awful wordy way for you to say "I am a retard."Well, yes the "incredibly large amount of the population" is kinda dumb, but if head injuries had anything to do with the suicide, then it could end up being the straw that broke the camel's back. The NFL is changing, but probably not fast enough./RIP JuniorThat's his assertion. You know what activities really do cover that bolded part?1) Any popular physical activity2) Any career of manual laborI have permanent chronic knee problems from working manufacturing for just 7 years. Should we ban manufacturing?I didn't play myself, but I have a fair number of friends who have an assortment of lower extremity problems (particularly knees & ankles) from playing soccer, which isn't even a contact sport. Going to ban it?Appeal to emotion fallacies can be fun, but when used to assert policies, they need to be called out.
Smelly McUgly: I don't get why Goodell hasn't already teamed up with the NFLPA to mandate that players must use the safer helmets already.
Unhip1: 1. Died of a chest wound. Not your typical suicide choice
PeppermintHippo: I feel awful for his mother. She is in complete shock and is hysterical. Shame on the media for expoiting her at this raw moment.
EnderWiggnz: muck4doo: EnderWiggnz: FreakinB: muck4doo: I don't get it. Why would someone with a HOF career, loads of money, hot babes wanting him, and fame commit suicide? Us schmuck fans don't have any of that, but we're not sitting there offing ourselves.If the cause that people are guessing is correct, then it's the same reason that people can still have anxiety and depression even when they seem to have it all: A messed up brain is a messed up brain. No amount of money, fame, etc. can fix that.i have a deep sympathy for depressed people with regards to suicide, but somehow, i suspect that his body being in constant pain from the constant beatings it received during his career, including both concussions and other physical injuries he suffered during his play time.i'm a hardcore migraineur, and believe me, I've thought of going all Pi on myself when I'm in the middle of a 6 week banger. If he was looking at another 30-40 years of excruciating pain along with increased risk of parkinsons (or already suffering from parkinsons), I don't think that the usual "depression" assumption holds water.And for those of you saying that they're afraid that the NFL may have to change/go away. GOOD. It should. It causes permanent physical damage to an incredibly large amount of the population, from pee-wee league through the NFL.How on earth could the NFL pass an OSHA inspection? Armored wankball should go the fark away and only be talked about with onions on our belts.Oh shut the hell up. More people die by automobile every year than die by football. Should we ban cars too?at least car manufacturers have been forced to install safety equipment that lessens the chance of injury instead of increasing it.and you're making a slippery slope argument. i call logical fallacy.
EnderWiggnz: hdhale: EnderWiggnz:How on earth could the NFL pass an OSHA inspection? Armored wankball should go the fark away and only be talked about with onions on our belts.Better question how do Boxing and MMA continue to pass OSHA inspection? At least American football players wear gear designed to protect them from hits, unlike Boxing and MMA which wear protective gear so they can protect the hands of the fighter allowing them to hit more often.Let's also not talk about Rugby and Australian rules football, which have no protective gear and the players can hit each other just as hard as in any American football game.I'm sorry you find contact sports to be barbaric, but the world is a contact sport. So in reality they only reflect real life./played American football from elementary school through high school and never got more than a couple of cool scarsBoxing is barbaric and needs to go away as well, not only out of safety concerns, but because of the pure corruption in the sport. Like the late great Smoking Joe said, the promoter gets paid, the venue gets paid, everyone makes money, except the boxer. MMA rules are such that there's LESS of a chance of injury than boxing. Mind you, i spar kickbox and compete in NAGA bjj. If you get injured during either of those, its YOUR fault because you did something wrong. Football? Every single game someone loses their career.Cool scars, eh? what about those times you got your bell rung... think that's going to affect you?as for the no-pads version of contact sports, well... they actually have a lower rate of injury because they dont have a hard candy shell with which to attack the other players with.Soccer/"real" football was a thugdriven sport pre 1970'ish, and they cleaned their act up. There's no reason that you need to watch gladiators risk life and limb for your entertainment on sundays.
WhyteRaven74: FinFangFark: but when I hear about a guy who played in the late 90s early 2000s is in a lawsuit, I think it's stupidExcept the NFL knew what was up and didn't do anything about it. Plus the NFL isn't exactly very good for providing benefits for retired players.
4NSpy: Damn.Always respected Junior as a player even though he was a Charger.
Rising From Ashes: 12:29 PM PDT -- A rep for the Oceanside Police Department just spoke outside Seau's San Diego house, claiming Seau's body was initially discovered by Seau's girlfriend. Authorities responded, and found Seau's unconscious body inside a bedroom, with a gunshot wound to the chest.Paramedics attempted to revive Seau, but life-saving efforts were unsuccessful. He was pronounced dead at the scene. His body is still inside the house.The rep says investigators recovered a handgun on the scene. The case is being investigated as a suicide.Seau's mother also spoke briefly -- and she was hysterical, crying to God, "Take me. Leave my son alone!"
9beers: He shot himself in the chest, not the way to go if you're planning suicide.
NightOwl2255: No, not really. Like Paul Newman said in Road to Perdition. It's the life they chose for themselves.
Karma Curmudgeon: What about clown suicide?
WhyteRaven74: So that the life expectancy of someone who plays in the NFL for four years or more is 55 years old, isn't a problem?
Carousel Beast: That's an awful wordy way for you to say "I am a retard."
jayhawk88: whizbangthedirtfarmer: jayhawk88: Rebelution: If this was a suicide as reported, I wonder what this will do to the concussion talks around the NFL. My thoughts go out to his family.If concussions do turn out to be a factor somehow, it could be a tipping point. I think he was enough of a star/has enough name recognition that this will resonate with a lot of people.Hell no. Americans love their violence. And many of the current players are of the "fark you, I got mine" mindset. Every year, players have an opportunity to donate a game check to Gridiron Greats, and what? A dozen or so of them do it?I'm not saying it will be the death of football or anything, but I do think that we could see some major changes. We've already had some hints of kickoff-less football, and it wouldn't shock me to also see some things like restrictions on the amount of padding players can wear, more and more severe penalties for big hits, etc.Ironically it's going to be ESPN that really decides where this conversation goes. They have the biggest platform, on any given day/week they can set the tone for sports discussion in this country...in a lot of very meaningful and not insignificant ways, how they choose to cover this is going to decide how much traction it continues to get.
Treygreen13: JohnBigBootay: TomD9938: Whoa... that's deep./and prolly trueYes. Rich or poor if you aren't in control of your mind you have nothing. Nevertheless we should continue, as a nation, defunding mental health programs. Because handouts just encourage more people to be crazy you know...I think a lot of the time even the mental health programs are dedicated to dispensing pharmaceuticals or comforting people with religion. Whereas actual therapists can provide some comfort to people by resolving internal issues.I think we all deal with hopelessness at times. Hard to say that Seau needed any of those above things, or which one was more appropriate.A national dialogue about mental health would certainly be a good thing.
1994 was awesome, for that alone he will be missed. Rest in Peace Junior.
the biggest redneck here: or getting on TV and talking like they've got a mouth full of marbles in their 40's
dletter: So far I'm only seeing this on TMZ (not on ESPN yet)... but, if TMZ blows this, that will be a pretty big goof on their part, so, I'll assume they have some sort of inside police source that they are putting a scoop out on.If this does prove to be a suicide, this will be the one that really gets peoples attention if it gets pinned back to head trauma issues like Duerson's did. Not that Dave Duerson wasn't a sad example, but, he didn't have the level of fame Seau did.
SoCalSurfer: Yeah, no one expected them to upset the steelers that year
Rising From Ashes: ESPN is saying a shooting with multiple unconfirmed reports he's dead.I see USA Today, LA Times, Huffington Post confirming dead, and several NFL players, including OchoCinco being sad saying dead.Now ESPN talking about bounties.
Zombie Hitler: Someone people cared about killed themselves. If it was a farker it would be the biggest tragedy on the planet, but because it's not, it's funny. There's never a point when (alleged) suicide is funny.
Treygreen13: houndoggie: He was a beast in Super Tecmo Bowl.He was?[i88.photobucket.com image 400x350]
hulk hogan meat shoes: ESPN still reacting to Saints suspensions...
R.A.Danny: Zombie Hitler: Too difficult to green a headline that shows some farking respect, I suppose.Looks at username, wonders if the irony of the statement is lost somewhere.And "Welcome to Fark"
nekom: DamnYankees: Not to diminish this, but why are we assuming this is a suicide?I'm wondering this too. Someone in the TMZ comments said it was confirmed but did not cite a source. There's no reason to assume that off the bat, unless someone in law enforcement has confirmed it.
lecavalier: Congress will be knocking on the NFL's door again and then we won't be allowed to watch tackle football anymore.
houndoggie: He was a beast in Super Tecmo Bowl.
kisseswookies: Wow, that seemed intentionally vague. The article could have been 2 sentences long. Junior Seau involved in some sort of shooting in his house. We don't know ANYTHING else.
ardyn: Getting in a shooting standoff with police always seems so... short sighted to me. Once they surround you, it's over. All you can hope to do is hold them off until the SWAT team comes through the door and teargasses your ass, or they snipe you through a window.Unless you have some sort of 1920s rum runner escape tunnel./Gotta be real desperate to get in to this sort of situation.
RIP Junior Mints
AdolfOliverPanties: A bit premature on the suicide angle, isn't it?
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