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(TMZ) NewsFlash Junior Seau has gone full Dave Duerson   (tmz.com ) divider line
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2012-05-02 02:21:00 PM  
Who?
 
2012-05-02 02:21:08 PM  
Man, why would he wanna do this? This is ridiculous...
 
2012-05-02 02:21:16 PM  
Holy crap.
 
2012-05-02 02:21:26 PM  
Steroids are bad kids.
 
2012-05-02 02:21:41 PM  
WTF
 
2012-05-02 02:22:07 PM  
He daid.
 
2012-05-02 02:22:09 PM  
=(
 
2012-05-02 02:22:09 PM  
Who?
 
2012-05-02 02:22:13 PM  
You never go full Dave Duerson.
 
2012-05-02 02:22:23 PM  

mjoven1975: Steroids are bad kids.


shooting.
 
2012-05-02 02:22:26 PM  
A bit premature on the suicide angle, isn't it?
 
2012-05-02 02:22:35 PM  
Damn.

Always respected Junior as a player even though he was a Charger.
 
2012-05-02 02:22:36 PM  
Listen, I think it's a tad early to be speculating that he killed himself, at least based on that article.

If he did, though... very sad.
 
2012-05-02 02:22:39 PM  
I second the Who? and add a "don;t giva damn"
 
2012-05-02 02:22:45 PM  
Not to diminish this, but why are we assuming this is a suicide?
 
2012-05-02 02:22:46 PM  
Wow, that seemed intentionally vague. The article could have been 2 sentences long. Junior Seau involved in some sort of shooting in his house. We don't know ANYTHING else.
 
2012-05-02 02:22:47 PM  
He was a douche when I lived in San Diego.

His ex-wife was a hottie though. She worked out at the World Gym by Pacific Beach.

/csb
 
2012-05-02 02:22:47 PM  
"OW", Junior was quoted as saying.
 
2012-05-02 02:22:52 PM  
It's always the last guy you suspect, isn't it?
 
2012-05-02 02:22:55 PM  

drew46n2: mjoven1975: Steroids are bad kids.

shooting.


I know. My point, you missed it.
 
2012-05-02 02:23:09 PM  

mjoven1975: Steroids are bad kids.


This. At least he didn't go full-Benoit.

/sad
//liked him as a player
 
2012-05-02 02:23:16 PM  
So far I'm only seeing this on TMZ (not on ESPN yet)... but, if TMZ blows this, that will be a pretty big goof on their part, so, I'll assume they have some sort of inside police source that they are putting a scoop out on.

If this does prove to be a suicide, this will be the one that really gets peoples attention if it gets pinned back to head trauma issues like Duerson's did. Not that Dave Duerson wasn't a sad example, but, he didn't have the level of fame Seau did.
 
2012-05-02 02:23:43 PM  

AdolfOliverPanties: A bit premature on the suicide angle, isn't it?


Dude tried to drive himself off a cliff recently.

/RIP
//Not some douchebag who tries to act like suicide = selfishness... it's still a goddamn tragedy either way
 
2012-05-02 02:23:49 PM  
Getting in a shooting standoff with police always seems so... short sighted to me. Once they surround you, it's over. All you can hope to do is hold them off until the SWAT team comes through the door and teargasses your ass, or they snipe you through a window.

Unless you have some sort of 1920s rum runner escape tunnel.

/Gotta be real desperate to get in to this sort of situation.
 
2012-05-02 02:23:53 PM  
Geez subby, we needed that joke we need a hole in the... oh, right.
 
2012-05-02 02:23:58 PM  
Wow, I hope he isn't dead. 43?

I was a huge fan of his as a kid. Still have a bunch of his cards somewhere.
 
2012-05-02 02:23:59 PM  
www.juniormints.com

RIP Junior Mints

 
2012-05-02 02:24:16 PM  
:(
 
2012-05-02 02:24:50 PM  
Samoans do NOT fark around...

/he's Samoan right?
 
2012-05-02 02:24:53 PM  
Steroids and brain damage claim another one.
 
2012-05-02 02:24:57 PM  
bad news for the nfl.
 
2012-05-02 02:25:04 PM  
John Harbaugh's comments drove him to it.
 
2012-05-02 02:25:05 PM  
He was a beast in Super Tecmo Bowl.
 
2012-05-02 02:25:24 PM  

snake_beater: It's always the last guy you suspect, isn't it?


Seau had a weird incident in 2010. Also, -1 subby
 
2012-05-02 02:25:25 PM  

ardyn: Getting in a shooting standoff with police always seems so... short sighted to me. Once they surround you, it's over. All you can hope to do is hold them off until the SWAT team comes through the door and teargasses your ass, or they snipe you through a window.

Unless you have some sort of 1920s rum runner escape tunnel.

/Gotta be real desperate to get in to this sort of situation.


Suicide by police
 
2012-05-02 02:26:05 PM  
I always admired him, and his ability to play football. If this is true, It's another hero gone.
 
2012-05-02 02:26:09 PM  
There are reports of several shots being fired.

Also, I hope his brain goes to science.
 
2012-05-02 02:26:09 PM  
If he really is dead does that mean we have to start respecting TMZ as real news?
 
2012-05-02 02:26:09 PM  
That sucks.
 
2012-05-02 02:26:24 PM  

Snarcoleptic_Hoosier: Geez subby, we needed that joke we need a hole in the... oh, right.


Welcome to Fark?

/ subby
// amazed by the instagreen
/// don't blame steroids, blame CTE
 
2012-05-02 02:26:26 PM  
Who, what, how?
 
2012-05-02 02:26:33 PM  

Treygreen13: "OW", Junior was quoted as saying.


Took me a minute, but I see what you did there.
 
2012-05-02 02:26:39 PM  
Meanwhile, Merrill Hoge and Tim Hasselbeck are arguing on ESPN. Not a peep yet.
 
2012-05-02 02:26:41 PM  
Didn't he try to do this a few years ago?
 
2012-05-02 02:26:46 PM  
well....bye

/that guy was a dick
 
2012-05-02 02:26:57 PM  
Congress will be knocking on the NFL's door again and then we won't be allowed to watch tackle football anymore.
 
2012-05-02 02:27:15 PM  
dreager1.files.wordpress.com

RIP Junior
 
2012-05-02 02:27:24 PM  
Some of the local news is saying it's a suicide. IDK- Junior's a nice guy. I'm tempted to run down to the coffeeshop and see if anyone has heard anything.
 
2012-05-02 02:27:31 PM  
He was probably depressed that he never won a Super Bowl. i37.photobucket.com
 
2012-05-02 02:27:38 PM  

kisseswookies: Wow, that seemed intentionally vague. The article could have been 2 sentences long. Junior Seau involved in some sort of shooting in his house. We don't know ANYTHING else.


Journalistic equivalent of 'FIRST! LOLAOL!!'.
 
2012-05-02 02:27:39 PM  
Say WHAT!?!?!?
 
2012-05-02 02:27:39 PM  

houndoggie: He was a beast in Super Tecmo Bowl.


He was?
i88.photobucket.com
 
2012-05-02 02:27:43 PM  
Wow. Damn.
 
2012-05-02 02:28:06 PM  
3.bp.blogspot.com

RIP Junior
 
2012-05-02 02:28:11 PM  
Tragic.
 
2012-05-02 02:28:18 PM  

GWSuperfan: Some of the local news is saying it's a suicide. IDK- Junior's a nice guy. I'm tempted to run down to the coffeeshop and see if anyone has heard anything.


I don't see how it would be a suicide if multiple shots were fired.
 
2012-05-02 02:28:18 PM  
28.media.tumblr.com

RIP Junior Samples
 
2012-05-02 02:28:20 PM  

mjoven1975: drew46n2: mjoven1975: Steroids are bad kids.

shooting.

I know. My point, you missed it.


thought you were suggesting O.D.
 
2012-05-02 02:28:31 PM  

lecavalier: Congress will be knocking on the NFL's door again and then we won't be allowed to watch tackle football anymore.


I'm actually starting to believe that football and hockey's days are numbered. I might have to start paying attention to my family soon.
 
2012-05-02 02:28:36 PM  

skeefree: If he really is dead does that mean we have to start respecting TMZ as real news?


TMZ is way ahead of the MSM on every breaking news story. They were the first to report Jacko's death and Whitney Houston's death as well. Seau is gonzo.
 
2012-05-02 02:28:40 PM  
I knew people would be upset over Vilma's suspension, but jeez, not that upset...
 
2012-05-02 02:28:45 PM  

GWSuperfan: Some of the local news is saying it's a suicide. IDK- Junior's a nice guy. I'm tempted to run down to the coffeeshop and see if anyone has heard anything.


except when he was abusing women.... other than that he was a nice fella.
 
2012-05-02 02:28:51 PM  

aintsobad: [28.media.tumblr.com image 399x391]

RIP Junior Samples


I farking hate that meme, but this time I laughed.
 
2012-05-02 02:28:52 PM  

mjoven1975: Steroids are bad kids.


Children are now used as performance enhancers?
 
2012-05-02 02:29:00 PM  
Yikes. He was a damn good player in his day.
 
2012-05-02 02:29:16 PM  

drew46n2: mjoven1975: drew46n2: mjoven1975: Steroids are bad kids.

shooting.

I know. My point, you missed it.

thought you were suggesting O.D.


I read the article before commenting. Clearly you didn't.
 
2012-05-02 02:29:18 PM  
If this was a suicide as reported, I wonder what this will do to the concussion talks around the NFL. My thoughts go out to his family.
 
2012-05-02 02:29:26 PM  
Right in time for the San Diego Fark party too.
 
2012-05-02 02:29:38 PM  

swangoatman: I second the Who? and add a "don;t giva damn"


You don;t care so much you had to speed type it right into the farking thread, huh?

/I CAN'T EVEN CHECK FOR TYPOS! I MUST LET THE WORLD KNOW LOUDLY AND RAPIDLY THAT I AM DISINTERESTED BUT NOT IN THE WAY THAT PEOPLE NORMALLY ARE DISINTERESTED AND IGNORE IT BUT IN THAT DOUCHEY WAY PEOPLE EXPRESS DISINTEREST ON FARK!
 
2012-05-02 02:29:39 PM  
Damn, I live 3 blocks from Seau's house in Oceanside. I wondered what all the commotion was about.
 
2012-05-02 02:29:45 PM  

DamnYankees: GWSuperfan: Some of the local news is saying it's a suicide. IDK- Junior's a nice guy. I'm tempted to run down to the coffeeshop and see if anyone has heard anything.

I don't see how it would be a suicide if multiple shots were fired.


He was being through?

/Sorry.
 
2012-05-02 02:29:50 PM  
I wonder if he said "Ow".
 
2012-05-02 02:29:52 PM  

cantthinkofafarkingname: Man, why would he wanna do this? This is ridiculous...


Probably from the fact he was still facing issues from attacking his girlfriend.
 
2012-05-02 02:29:52 PM  
latimesblogs.latimes.com

RIP Junior
 
2012-05-02 02:30:05 PM  

DamnYankees: I don't see how it would be a suicide if multiple shots were fired.


Link
 
2012-05-02 02:30:14 PM  
Holy crap. Why, why, why???
 
2012-05-02 02:30:14 PM  

cassplumbing.com

RIP Fish Taco Plate with a Stone IPA and waiting in a long ass line for a table on gamedays

 
2012-05-02 02:30:23 PM  
OK, I'm not a football guy, especially not an NFL guy, but even -I- know who Junior Seau is.

Always seemed like an alright guy. Hope he's not dead.
 
2012-05-02 02:30:33 PM  

DamnYankees: Not to diminish this, but why are we assuming this is a suicide?


I'm wondering this too. Someone in the TMZ comments said it was confirmed but did not cite a source. There's no reason to assume that off the bat, unless someone in law enforcement has confirmed it.

mjoven1975: skeefree: If he really is dead does that mean we have to start respecting TMZ as real news?

TMZ is way ahead of the MSM on every breaking news story. They were the first to report Jacko's death and Whitney Houston's death as well. Seau is gonzo.


Yeah, whether you like them or not, they do tend to get the scoop.
 
2012-05-02 02:30:53 PM  

skeefree: If he really is dead does that mean we have to start respecting TMZ as real news?


No they are still scumbag tabloid ambulance chasers
 
2012-05-02 02:31:04 PM  
Tragic

55 needs to be retired from the Bolts now, if not already.

/RIP Say-Ow!
//Wonder how his restaurant will fare (well i suspect because people are going crazy)
 
2012-05-02 02:31:20 PM  
goddamnitsomuch

RIP Junior.
 
2012-05-02 02:31:37 PM  

Rebelution: If this was a suicide as reported, I wonder what this will do to the concussion talks around the NFL. My thoughts go out to his family.


If concussions do turn out to be a factor somehow, it could be a tipping point. I think he was enough of a star/has enough name recognition that this will resonate with a lot of people.
 
2012-05-02 02:31:57 PM  
I don't get it. Why would someone with a HOF career, loads of money, hot babes wanting him, and fame commit suicide? Us schmuck fans don't have any of that, but we're not sitting there offing ourselves.
 
2012-05-02 02:32:01 PM  

swangoatman: I second the Who? and add a "don;t giva damn"


Uh huh. But you just love the sound your fingers make tapping away on your keyboard. And hitting that "Add Comment" button, it just makes you feel so darned tingly. Who can blame you? You can't help yourself.
 
2012-05-02 02:32:18 PM  

dletter: So far I'm only seeing this on TMZ (not on ESPN yet)... but, if TMZ blows this, that will be a pretty big goof on their part, so, I'll assume they have some sort of inside police source that they are putting a scoop out on.

If this does prove to be a suicide, this will be the one that really gets peoples attention if it gets pinned back to head trauma issues like Duerson's did. Not that Dave Duerson wasn't a sad example, but, he didn't have the level of fame Seau did.


It's not on ESPN because they're too busy sucking every last drop of life out of the Saints story today. (Trust me, been watching it all day, unintentionally.)
 
2012-05-02 02:32:20 PM  

nekom: DamnYankees: Not to diminish this, but why are we assuming this is a suicide?

I'm wondering this too. Someone in the TMZ comments said it was confirmed but did not cite a source. There's no reason to assume that off the bat, unless someone in law enforcement has confirmed it.


According to local news, the reports of it being a suicide are being attributed to neighbors.
 
2012-05-02 02:32:48 PM  

muck4doo: I don't get it. Why would someone with a HOF career, loads of money, hot babes wanting him, and fame commit suicide? Us schmuck fans don't have any of that, but we're not sitting there offing ourselves.


Brain damage?
 
2012-05-02 02:32:55 PM  
Yeah, I'm not trusting TMZ for breaking news. For harassing celebrities as they leave the Viper Room? Sure. But not for this.
 
2012-05-02 02:33:13 PM  

muck4doo: I don't get it. Why would someone with a HOF career, loads of money, hot babes wanting him, and fame commit suicide? Us schmuck fans don't have any of that, but we're not sitting there offing ourselves.


Just a wild guess, but years of continual poundings to the head may have been a factor.
 
2012-05-02 02:33:16 PM  
I love the crunch
 
2012-05-02 02:33:18 PM  
 
2012-05-02 02:33:32 PM  

www.lasvegas-nv.com

R.I.P. Junior Johnson

 
2012-05-02 02:33:35 PM  
sharetv.org

RIP Saved by the bell Luau
 
2012-05-02 02:33:36 PM  

muck4doo: I don't get it. Why would someone with a HOF career, loads of money, hot babes wanting him, and fame commit suicide? Us schmuck fans don't have any of that, but we're not sitting there offing ourselves.


Maybe once he had everything, he realized he really had nothing.
 
2012-05-02 02:33:42 PM  

hulk hogan meat shoes: Yeah, I'm not trusting TMZ for breaking news. For harassing celebrities as they leave the Viper Room? Sure. But not for this.


THERE"S A WHOLE GODDAMN INTERNET FULL OF INFO OUT THERE DINGBAT!
 
2012-05-02 02:33:46 PM  
http://www.kvia.com/sports/30993203/detail.html
 
2012-05-02 02:33:46 PM  
Damn that was quick.

I was going to submit with "Seau later"
 
2012-05-02 02:33:48 PM  

Pappas: OK, I'm not a football guy, especially not an NFL guy, but even -I- know who Junior Seau is.

Always seemed like an alright guy. Hope he's not dead.


Yeah. But I dont know who Dave Duerson is. but luckily google helps with such things.
 
2012-05-02 02:33:50 PM  
He's Wiki dead, so...

Sad.

Dude was a hell of a player.
 
2012-05-02 02:33:54 PM  
Jeez and I thought I was having a bad day. Doesn't look so bad anymore. Thanks, Junior.
 
2012-05-02 02:34:03 PM  
Too difficult to green a headline that shows some farking respect, I suppose.
 
2012-05-02 02:34:14 PM  

startnparkblog.com

R.I.P. Junior

 
2012-05-02 02:34:21 PM  
 
2012-05-02 02:34:34 PM  
Eighth member of the Chargers 94 Super Bowl team to die. That's crazy.
 
2012-05-02 02:34:50 PM  

muck4doo: I don't get it. Why would someone with a HOF career, loads of money, hot babes wanting him, and fame commit suicide? Us schmuck fans don't have any of that, but we're not sitting there offing ourselves.


If the cause that people are guessing is correct, then it's the same reason that people can still have anxiety and depression even when they seem to have it all: A messed up brain is a messed up brain. No amount of money, fame, etc. can fix that.
 
2012-05-02 02:34:55 PM  

Treygreen13: muck4doo: I don't get it. Why would someone with a HOF career, loads of money, hot babes wanting him, and fame commit suicide? Us schmuck fans don't have any of that, but we're not sitting there offing ourselves.

Maybe once he had everything, he realized he really had nothing.


His valediction: "Rosebud"
 
2012-05-02 02:35:05 PM  
Translation for those who don't watch football:

Football Player Committed a Kurt Cobain / Don Cornelius / Hunter S. Thompson / R. Budd Dwyer
 
2012-05-02 02:35:13 PM  

skeefree: If he really is dead does that mean we have to start respecting TMZ as real news?


TMZ broke Michael Jackson and Anna Nicole Smith's deaths

/just sayin'
 
2012-05-02 02:35:15 PM  
images.wikia.com

RIP Deputy Travis Junior
 
2012-05-02 02:35:24 PM  
Sorta met him once. Leaving a restaurant in Del Mar he got behind us in the valet line. I looked at him, he noticed, and I decided to leave him his privacy. What shocked me was he was a lot smaller in person than I imagined him to be.

Very sad story.
 
2012-05-02 02:35:26 PM  

PowerSlacker: Snarcoleptic_Hoosier: Geez subby, we needed that joke we need a hole in the... oh, right.

Welcome to Fark?

/ subby
// amazed by the instagreen
/// don't blame steroids, blame CTE


Sports figure. These people matter, man.

To be fair, stories involving public figures go green quick here. Good for traffic, I think.
 
2012-05-02 02:35:27 PM  

steamingpile: skeefree: If he really is dead does that mean we have to start respecting TMZ as real news?

No they are still scumbag tabloid ambulance chasers


As noted above...they may be scumbags, but they always break the stories and get it right.

And the suicide claim is from a witness at the scene from police.

I know this will open the dangers of pro football can of worms as well as discussion of lawsuits, etc. So I'll do this quick and dirty: The old guys that played for scraps have a right for better pensions and healthcare, but once players started making large 6 figure salaries as base, then I'm inclined to not feel pity for them.

Damn shame to see this though.
 
2012-05-02 02:35:34 PM  
So is it a possibility to summon his spirit at a Seau Seance?
 
2012-05-02 02:35:48 PM  
Livestream: http://www.10news.com/video/15012960/index.html
 
2012-05-02 02:35:55 PM  
ESPN still reacting to Saints suspensions...
 
2012-05-02 02:35:59 PM  

Zombie Hitler: Too difficult to green a headline that shows some farking respect, I suppose.


Looks at username, wonders if the irony of the statement is lost somewhere.

And "Welcome to Fark"
 
2012-05-02 02:36:08 PM  
Seauicide.
 
2012-05-02 02:36:08 PM  

GWSuperfan: According to local news, the reports of it being a suicide are being attributed to neighbors.


Not really sure how a neighbor would know for sure, unless maybe they ran in first and it appeared to be suicide.

Not that I have any problem believing that it is, it very well could be. I'm sure we'll find out from an official source soon enough.
 
2012-05-02 02:36:10 PM  
There is NOTHING on ESPN.com about this yet. Top story still continues to be four Saints players getting too light of a punishment.
 
2012-05-02 02:36:17 PM  
Fox 5 San Diego is confirming he's dead.
 
2012-05-02 02:36:21 PM  
Does this mean that the NFL is going to start handing out Super Bowl participation rings so no one feels bad about not having one?

Too soon?
 
2012-05-02 02:36:24 PM  
I figure ESPN is just waiting for confirmation.
 
2012-05-02 02:36:24 PM  

Busta Clown Shoes: So is it a possibility to summon his spirit at a Seau Seance?



*Groan*

/Okay....
//I LOL'd.
 
2012-05-02 02:36:30 PM  

skeefree: If he really is dead does that mean we have to start respecting TMZ as real news?


TMZ is always very reliable when it comes to stories like these.

RIP Jr
 
2012-05-02 02:36:40 PM  

drew46n2: [cassplumbing.com image 640x480]

RIP Fish Taco Plate with a Stone IPA and waiting in a long ass line for a table on gamedays


Spent many a fine Sundays there, drinking way too much and heckling Raider fans (which by the way, is a good way to have a gun pulled on you)

threadjack: how is there not a kate upton dancing thread?
 
2012-05-02 02:36:49 PM  

FriarReb98: dletter: So far I'm only seeing this on TMZ (not on ESPN yet)... but, if TMZ blows this, that will be a pretty big goof on their part, so, I'll assume they have some sort of inside police source that they are putting a scoop out on.

If this does prove to be a suicide, this will be the one that really gets peoples attention if it gets pinned back to head trauma issues like Duerson's did. Not that Dave Duerson wasn't a sad example, but, he didn't have the level of fame Seau did.

It's not on ESPN because they're too busy sucking every last drop of life out of the Saints story today. (Trust me, been watching it all day, unintentionally.)


If he is dead, that is breaking news, they would totally break in.... they are sitting on it for some reason, that they don't feel confident of the news yet. Bunch of other sites are reporting it, although all of them are pointing to TMZ, which is probably why ESPN hasn't yet, they want to source it themselves.
 
2012-05-02 02:36:54 PM  

Mog32Kupo: 55 needs to be retired from the Bolts now, if not already.


That was also his jersey number at USC...it's now only worn by the best linebackers.

/still can't believe the news
 
2012-05-02 02:37:08 PM  

Lorelle: Holy crap. Why, why, why???


Concussions. Here be more lawsuits.
 
2012-05-02 02:37:14 PM  

TrainingWheelsNeeded: how is there not a kate upton dancing thread?


wait, what?
 
2012-05-02 02:37:15 PM  
This sucks ass if true. True football hero.

RIP Taz
 
2012-05-02 02:37:21 PM  

DamnYankees: Not to diminish this, but why are we assuming this is a suicide?



Because he was having some very public "life issues" and seemed to be on a downward spiral.
 
2012-05-02 02:37:35 PM  

akruse: [images.wikia.com image 277x432]

RIP Deputy Travis Junior


Same haircut.
 
2012-05-02 02:37:39 PM  
And Amare Stoudmire just punched out any remaining hope the Knicks might've had. Lots of sports related violence this week.
 
2012-05-02 02:37:43 PM  

4NSpy: Damn.

Always respected Junior as a player even though he was a Charger.


Well aside from the PID use which may have caused the long term effects that led to suicide, yeah. I guess we'll know more soon enough.

Anyway, RIP

/Raider fan
 
2012-05-02 02:37:55 PM  

drew46n2: mjoven1975: drew46n2: mjoven1975: Steroids are bad kids.

shooting.

I know. My point, you missed it.

thought you were suggesting O.D.



A steroids O.D.? Really? Phew...
 
2012-05-02 02:37:55 PM  

hulk hogan meat shoes: ESPN still reacting to Saints suspensions...



Lulz.
 
2012-05-02 02:38:00 PM  

R.A.Danny: Zombie Hitler: Too difficult to green a headline that shows some farking respect, I suppose.

Looks at username, wonders if the irony of the statement is lost somewhere.

And "Welcome to Fark"


A username is meaningless.

Someone people cared about killed themselves. If it was a farker it would be the biggest tragedy on the planet, but because it's not, it's funny. There's never a point when (alleged) suicide is funny.
 
2012-05-02 02:38:14 PM  

DamnYankees: I don't see how it would be a suicide if multiple shots were fired.


content.internetvideoarchive.com

"If it was really that real, I don't think you woulda gotten that second shot off."
 
2012-05-02 02:38:14 PM  

Treygreen13: muck4doo: I don't get it. Why would someone with a HOF career, loads of money, hot babes wanting him, and fame commit suicide? Us schmuck fans don't have any of that, but we're not sitting there offing ourselves.

Maybe once he had everything, he realized he really had nothing.


:(
 
2012-05-02 02:38:18 PM  
Might have already been mentioned, but he tried to kill himself last year by driving off a cliff.
 
2012-05-02 02:38:22 PM  

Zombie Hitler: Too difficult to green a headline that shows some farking respect, I suppose.


Thank you for pointing out the need for decorum and dignity, Zombie Hitler.
 
2012-05-02 02:38:26 PM  
www.3quarksdaily.com
RIP Junior
 
2012-05-02 02:38:36 PM  

TrainingWheelsNeeded: drew46n2: [cassplumbing.com image 640x480]

RIP Fish Taco Plate with a Stone IPA and waiting in a long ass line for a table on gamedays

Spent many a fine Sundays there, drinking way too much and heckling Raider fans (which by the way, is a good way to have a gun pulled on you)

threadjack: how is there not a kate upton dancing thread?


Wake me up when she's naked or getting porked on camera.
 
2012-05-02 02:38:39 PM  

The_Sponge: Busta Clown Shoes: So is it a possibility to summon his spirit at a Seau Seance?


*Groan*

/Okay....
//I LOL'd.


To be fair, I groaned typing it. Had to lower my standards and take the shot. Sad story.
 
2012-05-02 02:39:09 PM  

dletter: If he is dead, that is breaking news, they would totally break in.... they are sitting on it for some reason, that they don't feel confident of the news yet. Bunch of other sites are reporting it, although all of them are pointing to TMZ, which is probably why ESPN hasn't yet, they want to source it themselves.



Probably. Although news that someone came out of the house looking really distraught leads me to believe whatever is inside is very, very bad, and so bad that Junior himself isn't the one walking out.
 
2012-05-02 02:39:14 PM  
ESPN sure is slow on this. Nothing on their site and they're not talking about it on their networks yet.
 
2012-05-02 02:39:26 PM  
clothesonfilm.com

RIP Little Junior Brown.
 
2012-05-02 02:39:36 PM  
His suicide note read"..arrrggggghhhhhh..."
 
2012-05-02 02:39:37 PM  

DamnYankees: GWSuperfan: Some of the local news is saying it's a suicide. IDK- Junior's a nice guy. I'm tempted to run down to the coffeeshop and see if anyone has heard anything.

I don't see how it would be a suicide if multiple shots were fired.


I've responded to an attempted suicide with multiple shots fired. She shot herself too high and at a bad angle the first time and thus only managed to break her collarbone.

Did a better job with the second round but still missed her heart and survived.
 
2012-05-02 02:39:38 PM  
Scott Van Penishead also talking Saints.
 
2012-05-02 02:39:39 PM  
Sad to hear this. I wonder if CTE will be to blame once again...
 
2012-05-02 02:39:47 PM  
Former Miami Dolphin also played for some other team out west
 
2012-05-02 02:39:49 PM  

TrainingWheelsNeeded: Spent many a fine Sundays there, drinking way too much and heckling Raider fans (which by the way, is a good way to have a gun pulled on you)



That happened to you? If so, how about sharing a CSB?
 
2012-05-02 02:39:50 PM  

hulk hogan meat shoes: ESPN still reacting to Saints suspensions...


ESPN barely does sports, and they certainly don't bother with sports journalism. ESPN's main role now is to blabber incoherently about vaguely sports-related topics.

ESPN has gone downhill ever since they hired Stuart Scott.
 
2012-05-02 02:39:54 PM  

9beers: ESPN sure is slow on this. Nothing on their site and they're not talking about it on their networks yet.


East coast bias.
 
2012-05-02 02:39:56 PM  
He must have just found out what diseases he got from Tila Tequila.
 
2012-05-02 02:40:00 PM  

DamnYankees: GWSuperfan: Some of the local news is saying it's a suicide. IDK- Junior's a nice guy. I'm tempted to run down to the coffeeshop and see if anyone has heard anything.

I don't see how it would be a suicide if multiple shots were fired.


You've never heard of a multiple gunshot suicide? They do happen.
 
2012-05-02 02:40:05 PM  
jayhawk88

Exactly. The man is a well decorated player according to Wiki page. He also played for Robert Kraft who seems to really watch out for his players. I'd like to know what's been happening after his playing days. If I remember correctly, he used to commentary on one of the pregame shows, right? I think as more and more incidents happen, you will eventually start hearing from current starting players about concussion safety.
 
2012-05-02 02:40:06 PM  

Treygreen13: houndoggie: He was a beast in Super Tecmo Bowl.

He was?
[i88.photobucket.com image 400x350]


meh, maybe I was thinking of someone else. It was Hardy Nickerson maybe.
 
2012-05-02 02:40:10 PM  
I almost bought a Seau jersey in the 90s. Freakin loved his play. Taz indeed.
 
2012-05-02 02:40:10 PM  

Zombie Hitler: Someone people cared about killed themselves. If it was a farker it would be the biggest tragedy on the planet, but because it's not, it's funny. There's never a point when (alleged) suicide is funny.


It's funnier than when he broke his arm against the Bears and it was all floppin' around.
 
2012-05-02 02:40:11 PM  

EminenceFront: Seauicide.


dude...nice.
 
2012-05-02 02:40:18 PM  
I clicked on the comments to find out who the people in the title were. Now that I know, I don't care.
 
2012-05-02 02:40:19 PM  
Curse of The Poorly Tattooed Asian Myspace Dwarf-Slut (COTPTAMDS) strikes again.
 
2012-05-02 02:40:23 PM  

Treygreen13: muck4doo: I don't get it. Why would someone with a HOF career, loads of money, hot babes wanting him, and fame commit suicide? Us schmuck fans don't have any of that, but we're not sitting there offing ourselves.

Maybe once he had everything, he realized he really had nothing.


Whoa... that's deep.

/and prolly true
 
2012-05-02 02:40:26 PM  
ESPN...still milking the Bountygate story. Keep f*cking that chicken, ESPN.
 
2012-05-02 02:40:30 PM  

thefranchisehound.com

RIP Carl's Jr



/Has a sad.
 
2012-05-02 02:40:34 PM  
Yahoo Sports has done nothing but link to the TMZ report.
 
2012-05-02 02:40:37 PM  

JustGetItRight: DamnYankees: GWSuperfan: Some of the local news is saying it's a suicide. IDK- Junior's a nice guy. I'm tempted to run down to the coffeeshop and see if anyone has heard anything.

I don't see how it would be a suicide if multiple shots were fired.

I've responded to an attempted suicide with multiple shots fired. She shot herself too high and at a bad angle the first time and thus only managed to break her collarbone.

Did a better job with the second round but still missed her heart and survived.


People try to commit suicide by shooting themselves in the chest? That's...dumb.
 
2012-05-02 02:40:40 PM  
Senior Seau unavailable for comment.
 
2012-05-02 02:40:52 PM  

BSABSVR: Zombie Hitler: Too difficult to green a headline that shows some farking respect, I suppose.

Thank you for pointing out the need for decorum and dignity, Zombie Hitler.


lol, Alright. That was funny.
 
2012-05-02 02:41:02 PM  
Rome is on it,
 
2012-05-02 02:41:06 PM  

cantthinkofafarkingname: Man, why would he wanna do this? This is ridiculous...


Brain injury probably, we'll see if he gets examined like Duerson did, I bet this is going to happen though.
 
2012-05-02 02:41:06 PM  

JohnBigBootay: TrainingWheelsNeeded: how is there not a kate upton dancing thread?

wait, what?


OK, I looked it up. There should be. The kid can dance.
 
2012-05-02 02:41:09 PM  

tardisrider: I clicked on the comments to find out who the people in the title were. Now that I know, I don't care.


Well, for the love of god, thank you for sharing that vital information and please keep us posted on any developments.
 
2012-05-02 02:41:12 PM  

Zombie Hitler: A username is meaningless


Your relatives weren't murdered by Hitler. Mine were. Unlike you I don't find references to HItler and Nazis terribly entertaining or cute or witty or edgy.

I'm not crying over your user name, but if you're going to play the "show some respect!" card and get all weepy about it then perhaps you should fark off and change your user name and "show some respect".
 
2012-05-02 02:41:16 PM  

cman: Who?


Famous Bowler. Invented the "Backdoor Strike"
 
2012-05-02 02:41:36 PM  

BSABSVR: Zombie Hitler: Too difficult to green a headline that shows some farking respect, I suppose.

Thank you for pointing out the need for decorum and dignity, Zombie Hitler.


Oh snap.
 
2012-05-02 02:41:43 PM  

bighairyguy: He must have just found out what diseases he got from Tila Tequila.


Wasn't it Shawn Merriman that had the incident with ms Tequila?
 
2012-05-02 02:41:52 PM  

shower_in_my_socks: dletter: If he is dead, that is breaking news, they would totally break in.... they are sitting on it for some reason, that they don't feel confident of the news yet. Bunch of other sites are reporting it, although all of them are pointing to TMZ, which is probably why ESPN hasn't yet, they want to source it themselves.


Probably. Although news that someone came out of the house looking really distraught leads me to believe whatever is inside is very, very bad, and so bad that Junior himself isn't the one walking out.


9beers: ESPN sure is slow on this. Nothing on their site and they're not talking about it on their networks yet.


First reports are about 25-30 minutes ago now.... strikes me as very odd that ESPN couldn't verify this themselves with their resources in that amount of time.
 
2012-05-02 02:42:08 PM  
st.deviantart.net
 
2012-05-02 02:42:09 PM  

Zombie Hitler: BSABSVR: Zombie Hitler: Too difficult to green a headline that shows some farking respect, I suppose.

Thank you for pointing out the need for decorum and dignity, Zombie Hitler.

lol, Alright. That was funny.


I literally lol'd at my desk.
 
2012-05-02 02:42:09 PM  

Vodka Zombie: I figure ESPN is just waiting for confirmation.


Most likely. Any news organization worth their salt already has canned obits/memorials ready for most every famous person.
 
2012-05-02 02:42:13 PM  
i50.tinypic.com
RIP JUNIOR SENIOR
 
2012-05-02 02:42:16 PM  

drew46n2: EminenceFront: Seauicide.

dude...nice.


i gave it both a 'smart' and 'funny' vote. only one ive voted for so far.
 
2012-05-02 02:42:28 PM  

i146.photobucket.com

R.I.P. Junior

 
2012-05-02 02:43:29 PM  

Rebelution: If I remember correctly, he used to commentary on one of the pregame shows, right? I think as more and more incidents happen, you will eventually start hearing from current starting players about concussion safety.



I think it may have more to do with relationship and business issues. He was having some ex-wife issues, I think. And he has a restaurant chain in SoCal called "Seau's" and I know the one near my old house closed a couple of years ago. I don't know if the overall business is in bad shape, though. Although dealing with this with a scrambled head probably doesn't help.
 
2012-05-02 02:43:32 PM  

TomD9938: Whoa... that's deep.

/and prolly true



Yes. Rich or poor if you aren't in control of your mind you have nothing. Nevertheless we should continue, as a nation, defunding mental health programs. Because handouts just encourage more people to be crazy you know...
 
2012-05-02 02:43:47 PM  

4NSpy: Damn.

Always respected Junior as a player even though he was a ChargerTrojan..

 
2012-05-02 02:44:03 PM  

Treygreen13: Zombie Hitler: BSABSVR: Zombie Hitler: Too difficult to green a headline that shows some farking respect, I suppose.

Thank you for pointing out the need for decorum and dignity, Zombie Hitler.

lol, Alright. That was funny.

I literally lol'd at my desk.


I'm still laughing.
 
2012-05-02 02:44:04 PM  

mjoven1975: skeefree: If he really is dead does that mean we have to start respecting TMZ as real news?
TMZ is way ahead of the MSM on every breaking news story. They were the first to report Jacko's death and Whitney Houston's death as well. Seau is gonzo.


They really are. They must have snitches all over the place.
 
2012-05-02 02:44:10 PM  
Also, FOX, CBS and NBC sports sites all have Seau story on front page now. ESPN does not. This is going to be an interesting side story on this.

dletter: shower_in_my_socks: dletter: If he is dead, that is breaking news, they would totally break in.... they are sitting on it for some reason, that they don't feel confident of the news yet. Bunch of other sites are reporting it, although all of them are pointing to TMZ, which is probably why ESPN hasn't yet, they want to source it themselves.


Probably. Although news that someone came out of the house looking really distraught leads me to believe whatever is inside is very, very bad, and so bad that Junior himself isn't the one walking out.

9beers: ESPN sure is slow on this. Nothing on their site and they're not talking about it on their networks yet.

First reports are about 25-30 minutes ago now.... strikes me as very odd that ESPN couldn't verify this themselves with their resources in that amount of time.

 
2012-05-02 02:44:28 PM  
farm9.staticflickr.com
RIP Junior Senior
 
2012-05-02 02:44:30 PM  

DamnYankees:
People try to commit suicide by shooting themselves in the chest? That's...dumb.


It's been prevalent recently by former athletes to preserve the brain for scientific research
 
2012-05-02 02:44:39 PM  
dibs on his stuff
 
2012-05-02 02:45:32 PM  

www.thewho.org
R.I.P

 
2012-05-02 02:45:45 PM  

PowerSlacker: ESPN has gone downhill ever since they hired Stuart Scott.


BOOYA!
 
2012-05-02 02:45:50 PM  
I'm betting someone on the Saints had a bounty on him.

/hope the report isn't true.
 
2012-05-02 02:45:56 PM  

DamnYankees: JustGetItRight: DamnYankees: GWSuperfan: Some of the local news is saying it's a suicide. IDK- Junior's a nice guy. I'm tempted to run down to the coffeeshop and see if anyone has heard anything.

I don't see how it would be a suicide if multiple shots were fired.

I've responded to an attempted suicide with multiple shots fired. She shot herself too high and at a bad angle the first time and thus only managed to break her collarbone.

Did a better job with the second round but still missed her heart and survived.

People try to commit suicide by shooting themselves in the chest? That's...dumb.


maybe he wanted his head donated for research...
 
2012-05-02 02:45:57 PM  

Nana's Vibrator: DamnYankees:
People try to commit suicide by shooting themselves in the chest? That's...dumb.

It's been prevalent recently by former athletes to preserve the brain for scientific research


So people are distraught enough to kill themselves but self aware enough to think about preserving their brain? Seems odd to me.
 
2012-05-02 02:46:01 PM  

TheMatt: Sad to hear this. I wonder if CTE will be to blame once again...


Chris Nowitski is probably trying to get phone numbers for all of Junior's family members as we are typing.

And ESPN is really looking like turds again on a story that they didn't break. Most sites will put breaking news banners.
 
2012-05-02 02:46:16 PM  

skeefree: If he really is dead does that mean we have to start respecting TMZ as real news?


No.
 
2012-05-02 02:46:18 PM  

PYROY: [www.thewho.org image 360x252]
R.I.P


Jim?
 
2012-05-02 02:46:18 PM  
Brain injuries are a helluva thing.
 
2012-05-02 02:46:28 PM  
I think I'll have a BLT for lunch.
 
2012-05-02 02:46:30 PM  
Okay, finally, after almost an hour, ESPN has something. Junior Seau is in fact taking his talents to South Beach.
 
2012-05-02 02:46:33 PM  

akruse: bighairyguy: He must have just found out what diseases he got from Tila Tequila.

Wasn't it Shawn Merriman that had the incident with ms Tequila?


Yes, that bastid. Stealing my myspace ho.
 
2012-05-02 02:46:48 PM  

dletter: Also, FOX, CBS and NBC sports sites all have Seau story on front page now. ESPN does not. This is going to be an interesting side story on this.


ESPN's probably a little pissed that he didn't kill himself live on the air with Colin Cowherd or the Mike & Mike Show.
 
2012-05-02 02:46:49 PM  

9beers: ESPN sure is slow on this. Nothing on their site and they're not talking about it on their networks yet.


I've had ESPN Radio on for the past hour (I initially tuned in for a ballgame), and there hasn't been one mention of the incident.

KNX Radio is now mentioning the TMZ report that Seau committed suicide, but not confirming it as fact.
 
2012-05-02 02:46:52 PM  
I just turned on the tv and this was the first thing i saw.

WTF WTF WTF NOOOOOOO

GOD DAMMIT I LOVE HIS RESTAURANT AND HE WAS GREAT
 
2012-05-02 02:46:52 PM  
According to this story, he's the 8th member of the Chargers' Super Bowl team from the 1994 season to die. That's pretty damn strange. I mean, as a 49ers fan, I was happy when the Niners kicked the shiat out of the Chargers in that Super Bowl, but sure didn't want to see anything bad happen to them.

Anyway, very sad story.

/always kinda liked the Chargers, always very much liked Junior Seau
 
2012-05-02 02:47:00 PM  
Still nothing on espn.com.

Good job.
 
2012-05-02 02:47:01 PM  
We spoke with an investigator in the coroner's office...

That's never a good sign.
 
2012-05-02 02:47:12 PM  

jayhawk88: Rebelution: If this was a suicide as reported, I wonder what this will do to the concussion talks around the NFL. My thoughts go out to his family.

If concussions do turn out to be a factor somehow, it could be a tipping point. I think he was enough of a star/has enough name recognition that this will resonate with a lot of people.


Hell no. Americans love their violence. And many of the current players are of the "fark you, I got mine" mindset. Every year, players have an opportunity to donate a game check to Gridiron Greats, and what? A dozen or so of them do it?
 
2012-05-02 02:47:22 PM  

TonnageVT: [www.juniormints.com image 320x240]

RIP Junior Mints


Nooooooooooooooo!
 
2012-05-02 02:47:23 PM  

hulk hogan meat shoes: Nana's Vibrator: DamnYankees:
People try to commit suicide by shooting themselves in the chest? That's...dumb.

It's been prevalent recently by former athletes to preserve the brain for scientific research

So people are distraught enough to kill themselves but self aware enough to think about preserving their brain? Seems odd to me.


Strange but true.
 
2012-05-02 02:47:37 PM  
ESPN must have invested in the NFL suspensions futures market or something. Acting like it's the only story today.
 
2012-05-02 02:47:56 PM  

hulk hogan meat shoes: Nana's Vibrator: DamnYankees:
People try to commit suicide by shooting themselves in the chest? That's...dumb.

It's been prevalent recently by former athletes to preserve the brain for scientific research

So people are distraught enough to kill themselves but self aware enough to think about preserving their brain? Seems odd to me.


Dave Duerson Death^
 
2012-05-02 02:48:03 PM  
I'm reading "dead from self-inflicted ginshot to the chest"

So the Dave Duerson comparision sounds accurate. Save the brain from science.
 
2012-05-02 02:48:10 PM  

Phoenix_M: I think I'll have a BLT for lunch.



Fark.com: We might not be able to solve world hunger, but we can at least decide what we're going to have for lunch.
 
2012-05-02 02:48:13 PM  
www.burgerking.ca

R.I.P. Whopper Jr.


/But seriously, my condolences. Great player.
 
2012-05-02 02:48:23 PM  

you are a puppet: Junior Seau is in fact taking his talents to South Beach six feet underground.

 
2012-05-02 02:48:39 PM  
Who?
 
2012-05-02 02:48:41 PM  

hulk hogan meat shoes: ESPN must have invested in the NFL suspensions futures market or something. Acting like it's the only story today.


It's not ESPN. I don't see this on any website. SI.com doesn't have it, and Yahoo Sports just put up a small banner.
 
2012-05-02 02:49:16 PM  

JohnBigBootay: TomD9938: Whoa... that's deep.

/and prolly true


Yes. Rich or poor if you aren't in control of your mind you have nothing. Nevertheless we should continue, as a nation, defunding mental health programs. Because handouts just encourage more people to be crazy you know...


I think a lot of the time even the mental health programs are dedicated to dispensing pharmaceuticals or comforting people with religion. Whereas actual therapists can provide some comfort to people by resolving internal issues.

I think we all deal with hopelessness at times. Hard to say that Seau needed any of those above things, or which one was more appropriate.

A national dialogue about mental health would certainly be a good thing.
 
2012-05-02 02:49:26 PM  

Nana's Vibrator: DamnYankees:
People try to commit suicide by shooting themselves in the chest? That's...dumb.

It's been prevalent recently by former athletes to preserve the brain for scientific research


if you shoot yourself in the head, you don't get that awesome final high that makes it feel like you're in heaven.
 
2012-05-02 02:49:28 PM  

Rising From Ashes: I'm reading "dead from self-inflicted ginshot to the chest"

So the Dave Duerson comparision sounds accurate. Save the brain from science.


I didn't even know that Seau had shot himself in the chest when I submitted the link.

I swear I have an alibi.
 
2012-05-02 02:49:39 PM  

Cyberluddite: According to this story, he's the 8th member of the Chargers' Super Bowl team from the 1994 season to die. That's pretty damn strange. I mean, as a 49ers fan, I was happy when the Niners kicked the shiat out of the Chargers in that Super Bowl, but sure didn't want to see anything bad happen to them.

Anyway, very sad story.

/always kinda liked the Chargers, always very much liked Junior Seau


Yeah, that is odd, I mean, players would have been anywhere from 22-40 on that team, so, they'd be 40-58 today.... certainly not an age range where you'd expect a 15% death rate.
 
2012-05-02 02:49:48 PM  
i'd rather just see his footprint.

/remember that commercial?
 
2012-05-02 02:50:00 PM  
Goodnight, funnyman.
 
2012-05-02 02:50:03 PM  

hulk hogan meat shoes: ESPN must have invested in the NFL suspensions futures market or something. Acting like it's the only story today.


To be fair, nothing has popped up on SI.com yet either.
 
2012-05-02 02:50:16 PM  
I think it's funny people still doubt TMZ on celebrity death news. They have proven to be first and accurate by far on the death of anyone remotely famous time and time and time again.

Also, still not up on ESPN.com? wow
 
2012-05-02 02:50:19 PM  
His son just showed up on scene. I can't imagine. :(

kogo.com has pretty good local coverage on their live stream.
 
2012-05-02 02:50:23 PM  
0.tqn.com
RIP Junior Wells
 
2012-05-02 02:50:28 PM  
I heard a rumor he was about to go public about a bounty program that was run by the Patriots and Bill Belichick had him silenced.
 
2012-05-02 02:50:29 PM  

SoCalSurfer: I just turned on the tv and this was the first thing i saw.

WTF WTF WTF NOOOOOOO

GOD DAMMIT I LOVE HIS RESTAURANT AND HE WAS GREAT


I'm still in shock. Really.

I remember seeing him play for USC back in the 1980s...he was phenomenal. It certainly wasn't a surprise when he left early for the NFL draft.
 
2012-05-02 02:50:32 PM  

PowerSlacker: ESPN has gone downhill ever since they hired Stuart Scott.



A slight uphill moment:

Firing Sean Salisbury.
 
2012-05-02 02:50:33 PM  

Nana's Vibrator: DamnYankees:
People try to commit suicide by shooting themselves in the chest? That's...dumb.

It's been prevalent recently by former athletes to preserve the brain for scientific research


This link also gives some good reason why somebody would
Study On Suicide Methods
 
2012-05-02 02:50:34 PM  

DamnYankees: hulk hogan meat shoes: ESPN must have invested in the NFL suspensions futures market or something. Acting like it's the only story today.

It's not ESPN. I don't see this on any website. SI.com doesn't have it, and Yahoo Sports just put up a small banner.


FOX and NBC sports' sites have a story. The others might be working to independently confirm the news.
 
2012-05-02 02:50:35 PM  

Zombie Hitler: R.A.Danny: Zombie Hitler: Too difficult to green a headline that shows some farking respect, I suppose.

Looks at username, wonders if the irony of the statement is lost somewhere.

And "Welcome to Fark"

A username is meaningless.

Someone people cared about killed themselves. If it was a farker it would be the biggest tragedy on the planet, but because it's not, it's funny. There's never a point when (alleged) suicide is funny.


what about when Hitler offed himself? That was pretty farking funny.
 
2012-05-02 02:50:37 PM  

PowerSlacker: hulk hogan meat shoes: ESPN still reacting to Saints suspensions...

ESPN barely does sports, and they certainly don't bother with sports journalism. ESPN's main role now is to blabber incoherently about vaguely sports-related topics.

ESPN has gone downhill ever since they hired Stuart Scott.


I wish ESPN would kill itself.
 
2012-05-02 02:50:38 PM  
In a bit of irony, this is the one-year anniversary of Boston University confirming that Dave Duerson did in fact suffer from concussion-related brain trauma.
 
2012-05-02 02:50:56 PM  

DamnYankees: hulk hogan meat shoes: ESPN must have invested in the NFL suspensions futures market or something. Acting like it's the only story today.

It's not ESPN. I don't see this on any website. SI.com doesn't have it, and Yahoo Sports just put up a small banner.


NBCSports.com has a big front page story about it now.
 
2012-05-02 02:50:57 PM  

DamnYankees: hulk hogan meat shoes: ESPN must have invested in the NFL suspensions futures market or something. Acting like it's the only story today.

It's not ESPN. I don't see this on any website. SI.com doesn't have it, and Yahoo Sports just put up a small banner.


It is on every other major networks sports front page (FOX, NBC, CBS).
 
2012-05-02 02:51:20 PM  
Thats absolutely nuts, the guy was a great all around guy. Didn't think that would be the first thing I saw when I turned on the local news this morning
 
2012-05-02 02:51:20 PM  
They must be going nuts upstairs right now.

/I work in the building where NFL HQ is located
 
2012-05-02 02:51:45 PM  
Oooh, Rachel Nichols on ESPN. Yum.
 
2012-05-02 02:51:48 PM  

DamnYankees: hulk hogan meat shoes: ESPN must have invested in the NFL suspensions futures market or something. Acting like it's the only story today.

It's not ESPN. I don't see this on any website. SI.com doesn't have it, and Yahoo Sports just put up a small banner.


Only Yahoo for me
 
2012-05-02 02:52:12 PM  

ESPN DEVELOPING STORY...

...Amare Stoudemire will miss two playoff games with a hand injury.

 
2012-05-02 02:52:19 PM  

Deadrat: In a bit of irony, this is the one-year anniversary of Boston University confirming that Dave Duerson did in fact suffer from concussion-related brain trauma.


Ironic, or not? I'd not bet against Seau being aware of that.
 
2012-05-02 02:52:19 PM  
News conference coming up any moment it says
 
2012-05-02 02:52:29 PM  
KNX is now reporting that his housekeeper found him dead with a gunshot wound to the chest. :(

Holy crap.
 
2012-05-02 02:52:44 PM  
the Junior Seau story has been out for at least 20-25 minutes. Still no acknowledgement of the story from ESPN, ESPN.com, or ESPN News. Because if it doesn't involve the Red Sox, Yankees, Tebow, or Favre, nothing matters.

Fark you, "Worldwide Leader of Sports."
 
2012-05-02 02:52:46 PM  

Treygreen13: houndoggie: He was a beast in Super Tecmo Bowl.

He was?
[i88.photobucket.com image 400x350]


I applaud your commitment to providing relevant and topical reference material in which to make your case, good Sir.
 
2012-05-02 02:52:58 PM  

CavalierEternal: ESPN DEVELOPING STORY...

...Amare Stoudemire will miss two playoff games with a hand injury.


That he got when he slammed his hand into a fire extinguisher.
 
2012-05-02 02:53:04 PM  

Ray_Peranus: Samoans do NOT fark around...

/he's Samoan right?



static.guim.co.uk
RIP SAMOSAS

 
2012-05-02 02:53:05 PM  
I'd never heard seau was having football related brain problems. Just to say it out loud, regular people get depressed and kill themselves occasionally as well. I even had a buddy in HS who used the shooting in the chest method. But I don't think he was trying to save his brain for research. As for the 'prevalence' of the brain saving suicide method at least prior to today I've only heard of the one guy going that route.
 
2012-05-02 02:53:13 PM  
STILL nothing on ESPN or ESPN.com......
 
2012-05-02 02:53:24 PM  
Yeah but beacuse he played a game with pads it's not as tragic as if Wayne Rooney killed himself.
 
2012-05-02 02:53:25 PM  

DamnYankees: hulk hogan meat shoes: ESPN must have invested in the NFL suspensions futures market or something. Acting like it's the only story today.

It's not ESPN. I don't see this on any website. SI.com doesn't have it, and Yahoo Sports just put up a small banner.


Foxsports is reporting it.
 
2012-05-02 02:53:33 PM  
The Los Angeles Times is reporting it has confirmed now.
 
2012-05-02 02:53:34 PM  

hulk hogan meat shoes: Oooh, Rachel Nichols on ESPN. Yum.



This.

/Friend of mine said he wouldn't sleep with her.
//Was the perfect time to toss out the old "You know how I know you're gay?" line.
 
2012-05-02 02:53:44 PM  

DamnYankees: GWSuperfan: Some of the local news is saying it's a suicide. IDK- Junior's a nice guy. I'm tempted to run down to the coffeeshop and see if anyone has heard anything.

I don't see how it would be a suicide if multiple shots were fired.


He may have caught himself by surprise.
 
2012-05-02 02:53:53 PM  

akruse: bighairyguy: He must have just found out what diseases he got from Tila Tequila.

Wasn't it Shawn Merriman that had the incident with ms Tequila?


img69.imageshack.us
 
2012-05-02 02:54:12 PM  

whizbangthedirtfarmer: jayhawk88: Rebelution: If this was a suicide as reported, I wonder what this will do to the concussion talks around the NFL. My thoughts go out to his family.

If concussions do turn out to be a factor somehow, it could be a tipping point. I think he was enough of a star/has enough name recognition that this will resonate with a lot of people.

Hell no. Americans love their violence. And many of the current players are of the "fark you, I got mine" mindset. Every year, players have an opportunity to donate a game check to Gridiron Greats, and what? A dozen or so of them do it?


I'm not saying it will be the death of football or anything, but I do think that we could see some major changes. We've already had some hints of kickoff-less football, and it wouldn't shock me to also see some things like restrictions on the amount of padding players can wear, more and more severe penalties for big hits, etc.

Ironically it's going to be ESPN that really decides where this conversation goes. They have the biggest platform, on any given day/week they can set the tone for sports discussion in this country...in a lot of very meaningful and not insignificant ways, how they choose to cover this is going to decide how much traction it continues to get.
 
2012-05-02 02:54:44 PM  
Good for him. He finally succeeded. I do hate to see a man of talent fail so spectacularly as he did last year.
 
2012-05-02 02:54:45 PM  

pedobearapproved: what about when Hitler offed himself? That was pretty farking funny.


t0.gstatic.com

"... because he was a mass-murdering farkhead."
 
2012-05-02 02:54:46 PM  

dletter: Also, FOX, CBS and NBC sports sites all have Seau story on front page now. ESPN does not. This is going to be an interesting side story on this.


Fox, cnn and msnbc don't have it either. It could be they're just waiting for absolute confirmation.

Besides, what possible reason would ESPN have (besides waiting for confirmation) for not going with it?
 
2012-05-02 02:54:55 PM  
Never heard of him, don't watch NASCAR.
 
2012-05-02 02:54:59 PM  
NFL.com has banner just reporting the shooting investigation, not saying dead yet.
 
2012-05-02 02:55:18 PM  

pedobearapproved: what about when Hitler offed himself? That was pretty farking funny.


I wasn't even born yet, but this has always pissed me off. It would have been much more satisfying to have him tried at Nuremburg, though the final result would have been the same.

Anyway, let's talk about Junior Seau now.
 
2012-05-02 02:55:20 PM  
......and still nothing from ESPN.com
 
2012-05-02 02:55:30 PM  
Sorry to hear of this incident. He was on the Patriots during some of their best years, and he will be missed.
 
2012-05-02 02:55:32 PM  
Good comments on ESPN.com. Check the Saints players suspended story. Nice jorb, Worldwide Leader.
 
2012-05-02 02:55:33 PM  
I love how we've talked this story almost all the way out before ESPN even acknowledges it, much less before they waste their next four hours of airtime on it.
 
2012-05-02 02:55:34 PM  

lunchinlewis: 9beers: ESPN sure is slow on this. Nothing on their site and they're not talking about it on their networks yet.

East coast bias.


Ha!
 
2012-05-02 02:55:36 PM  

kiwannabee: the Junior Seau story has been out for at least 20-25 minutes. Still no acknowledgement of the story from ESPN, ESPN.com, or ESPN News. Because if it doesn't involve the Red Sox, Yankees, Tebow, or Favre, nothing matters.

Fark you, "Worldwide Leader of Sports."


Let's be fair. His last few seasons were as a member of the New England Patriots. It's not the East Coast bias. Makes you wonder what they're waiting for, though. This would be the worst April Fools joke ever.
 
2012-05-02 02:55:46 PM  

extroverted_suicide: DamnYankees: GWSuperfan: Some of the local news is saying it's a suicide. IDK- Junior's a nice guy. I'm tempted to run down to the coffeeshop and see if anyone has heard anything.

I don't see how it would be a suicide if multiple shots were fired.

He may have caught himself by surprise.


He did have arthritis issues with his hands :-/
 
2012-05-02 02:55:53 PM  
Self inflicted to the chest. Just like Dave.
 
2012-05-02 02:55:59 PM  
Seau will be eligible for the Pro Football Hall of Fame in 2014. Shame he couldn't wait around for it.
 
2012-05-02 02:56:08 PM  

desertgeek: The Los Angeles Times is reporting it has confirmed now.


Yup, but that report says he died of a self-inflicted gunshot wound to the head.
 
2012-05-02 02:56:10 PM  
Tampa Bay signed a paralyzed guy? They're really just giving up on the season, huh?
 
2012-05-02 02:56:12 PM  

aquigley: STILL nothing on ESPN or ESPN.com......


...or SI.com...


But Fox Sports has a breaking banner.
 
2012-05-02 02:56:25 PM  
Damn. That sucks.
 
2012-05-02 02:56:30 PM  

dletter: NFL.com has banner just reporting the shooting investigation, not saying dead yet.


That's all fox has on it as well. They're probably all waiting on the AP to confirm it.
 
2012-05-02 02:56:41 PM  

The_Sponge: ......and still nothing from ESPN.com


Nickel says they try to play it off as 'as responsible journalists we refuse to engage in speculation without confirmation'. Which is of course, horseshiat. They just suck.
 
2012-05-02 02:56:51 PM  

DamnYankees: JustGetItRight: DamnYankees: GWSuperfan: Some of the local news is saying it's a suicide. IDK- Junior's a nice guy. I'm tempted to run down to the coffeeshop and see if anyone has heard anything.

I don't see how it would be a suicide if multiple shots were fired.

I've responded to an attempted suicide with multiple shots fired. She shot herself too high and at a bad angle the first time and thus only managed to break her collarbone.

Did a better job with the second round but still missed her heart and survived.

People try to commit suicide by shooting themselves in the chest? That's...dumb.


All the freaking time. I've never looked to see if anyone's done scientific studies about it, but EMT lore is that women choose the the chest more often than men and do so to allow for an open casket funeral.

In my personal experiences, I've only been to a couple of female suicides by GSW and both were to the chest. I've been to a lot more suicides by males, and they do usually involve GSWs to the head but I have seen one that shot himself in the chest.
 
2012-05-02 02:57:01 PM  
as of 1:56 CT, NOTHING from ESPN on their website.

Can we get Tim Tebow to twitter this so their stupid network reports something they "broke"?
 
2012-05-02 02:57:03 PM  
It's almost as if a lifetime of being subjected to brain damage can cause someone to be depressed and commit suicide. I wonder if there's a connection.....

/ in all seriousness, American football as we know it will not exist 20 years from now
// it will only take one winning lawsuit, and yes, it's coming
 
2012-05-02 02:57:32 PM  
It wasn't that he was a football player, it was that he was a great guy in the community. Its like the only thing on tv down here
 
2012-05-02 02:57:38 PM  
This will not be good for the NFL brain damage lawsuits that are currently in the courts. The NFL will have to pay out A LOT of money soon.
 
2012-05-02 02:57:46 PM  

CrazedHatter: aquigley: STILL nothing on ESPN or ESPN.com......

...or SI.com...


But Fox Sports has a breaking banner.


Hometown paper's got it.
 
2012-05-02 02:57:55 PM  

JustGetItRight: In my personal experiences, I've only been to a couple of female suicides by GSW and both were to the chest. I've been to a lot more suicides by males, and they do usually involve GSWs to the head but I have seen one that shot himself in the chest.


as I said earlier I had a friend who chose that route back in the mid 80's
 
2012-05-02 02:58:05 PM  

Fuggin Bizzy: pedobearapproved: what about when Hitler offed himself? That was pretty farking funny.

I wasn't even born yet, but this has always pissed me off. It would have been much more satisfying to have him tried at Nuremburg, though the final result would have been the same.

Anyway, let's talk about Junior Seau now.


Honestly, if Hitler hadn't killed himself, the Soviets would have caught him and probably tortured him, murdered him, then dragged his corpse up and down the streets of Berlin before putting his head on a pike.
 
2012-05-02 02:58:05 PM  
Dx: Bipolar + TBI (from his job) + domestic abuse culture = cannot deal.
 
2012-05-02 02:58:06 PM  

Cyberluddite: he's the 8th member of the Chargers' Super Bowl team from the 1994 season to die.


Shiat, I know I remember there were a couple others but now I'm trying to think of who they all were.
 
2012-05-02 02:58:35 PM  

DeltaPunch: Treygreen13: houndoggie: He was a beast in Super Tecmo Bowl.

He was?
[i88.photobucket.com image 400x350]

I applaud your commitment to providing relevant and topical reference material in which to make your case, good Sir.


Well it's certainly possible that he was. Super Tecmo Bowl was not a game known for its even-handed distribution of ability for each player.

For example, Bob Nelson was just stupid in that game.
www.gameinformer.com

You might ask, "who is Bob Nelson?" And you'd be justified in asking because Bob Nelson wasn't really an important player. But god dammit could Bob sack the QB in the game. He was essentially unblockable.
 
2012-05-02 02:58:58 PM  
He shot to the chest so they could do more CTE studies on his brain, just like Dave Duerson.
 
2012-05-02 02:59:02 PM  
I think Jon Stewart has something on this already too.

Jonathan Vilma banned for the season.

If you're not making money NOW, then ESPN isn't interested in exploiting you.
 
2012-05-02 02:59:04 PM  

RumsfeldsReplacement: It's almost as if a lifetime of being subjected to brain damage can cause someone to be depressed and commit suicide. I wonder if there's a connection.....

/ in all seriousness, American football as we know it will not exist 20 years from now
// it will only take one winning lawsuit, and yes, it's coming


That's the reason the nfl set aside a bigger portion of the tv money they got from the lockout last year. Its all for concussion lawsuits.
 
2012-05-02 02:59:29 PM  
 
2012-05-02 02:59:40 PM  

RumsfeldsReplacement: It's almost as if a lifetime of being subjected to brain damage can cause someone to be depressed and commit suicide. I wonder if there's a connection.....

/ in all seriousness, American football as we know it will not exist 20 years from now
// it will only take one winning lawsuit, and yes, it's coming


The demand will never go away.
The supply of people who will watch and pay to watch will never go away.
The supply of people willing to injure themselves for millions of dollars will never go away.
The advertising/TV money will never go away.
The people making money will not let that happen.
 
2012-05-02 02:59:51 PM  

PowerSlacker: I love how we've talked this story almost all the way out before ESPN even acknowledges it, much less before they waste their next four hours of airtime on it.



Bingo!

So they'll just avoid talking about it until this afternoon, and make the "wise" decision to preempt Dan LeBatard's show.

/Jerks.
 
2012-05-02 02:59:55 PM  
Scott Van Pelt just said on his show ESPN is waiting on confirmation, but they're aware of a shooting.
 
2012-05-02 02:59:55 PM  
Self inflicted gunshot wound to the chest, via TMZ.

He truly went full Duerson.
 
2012-05-02 03:00:02 PM  

RumsfeldsReplacement: It's almost as if a lifetime of being subjected to brain damage can cause someone to be depressed and commit suicide. I wonder if there's a connection.....


I think the league has been horribly backward on the issue but people kill themselves every day - one cannot automagically assume this is CTE related. Good chance of it, sure.
 
2012-05-02 03:00:31 PM  
ESPN on TV is mentioning finally right now
 
2012-05-02 03:00:36 PM  
Well now ESPN mentions it, just as SportsCenter ends.
 
2012-05-02 03:00:44 PM  
Yeah espn doesn't care if you aren't on the east coast. Same shiat, different day
 
2012-05-02 03:00:44 PM  

JustGetItRight: DamnYankees: GWSuperfan: Some of the local news is saying it's a suicide. IDK- Junior's a nice guy. I'm tempted to run down to the coffeeshop and see if anyone has heard anything.

I don't see how it would be a suicide if multiple shots were fired.

I've responded to an attempted suicide with multiple shots fired. She shot herself too high and at a bad angle the first time and thus only managed to break her collarbone.

Did a better job with the second round but still missed her heart and survived.


Wait, was this idiot trying to off herself by shooting herself in the CHEST?
 
2012-05-02 03:00:46 PM  

Butterfinger: I think Jon Stewart has something on this already too.

Jonathan Vilma banned for the season.

If you're not making money NOW, then ESPN isn't interested in exploiting you.


Too busy with pretend hot girl bloggers.
 
2012-05-02 03:00:49 PM  

aquigley: He shot to the chest so they could do more CTE studies on his brain, just like Dave Duerson.


This is hardly surprising, this is going to sink the NFL's legal defense I'd wager.
 
2012-05-02 03:00:50 PM  

WhyteRaven74: Cyberluddite: he's the 8th member of the Chargers' Super Bowl team from the 1994 season to die.

Shiat, I know I remember there were a couple others but now I'm trying to think of who they all were.


According to this

*Linebacker Lew Bush succumbed to a heart attack at age 42
*Linebacker David Griggs died in a Florida car crash in 1995, less than five months after Super Bowl 29.
*Running back Rodney Culver and his wife were among the casualties in the 1996 ValuJet crash that plunged into the Everglades. The couple left behind two children and 110 in all died on the doomed flight.
*In a sad/twisted irony, linebacker Doug Miller died at 28 after being struck by lightning twice during a Colorado camping trip in 1998.
*Offensive lineman Curtis Whitney died a day after his 39th birthday from a drug overdose.
*Defensive lineman Chris Mims died at age 39 in 2008 due to an enlarged heart.
*Defensive end Shawn Lee passed away earlier this year at age 44 due to heart problems/diabetes.
 
2012-05-02 03:00:57 PM  
ESPN just now reported on it.
 
2012-05-02 03:01:01 PM  

JustGetItRight: DamnYankees: JustGetItRight: DamnYankees: GWSuperfan: Some of the local news is saying it's a suicide. IDK- Junior's a nice guy. I'm tempted to run down to the coffeeshop and see if anyone has heard anything.

I don't see how it would be a suicide if multiple shots were fired.

I've responded to an attempted suicide with multiple shots fired. She shot herself too high and at a bad angle the first time and thus only managed to break her collarbone.

Did a better job with the second round but still missed her heart and survived.

People try to commit suicide by shooting themselves in the chest? That's...dumb.

All the freaking time. I've never looked to see if anyone's done scientific studies about it, but EMT lore is that women choose the the chest more often than men and do so to allow for an open casket funeral.

In my personal experiences, I've only been to a couple of female suicides by GSW and both were to the chest. I've been to a lot more suicides by males, and they do usually involve GSWs to the head but I have seen one that shot himself in the chest.


Yea, up earlier I posted a link. Someone did do a study and males were nearly twice as likely to use a method that disfigured the head or face.
Link again for anyone who missed it
 
2012-05-02 03:01:03 PM  
Still nothing from ESPN.... wow. They're still pimping Vilma's suspension.
 
2012-05-02 03:01:22 PM  

www.hellopro.fr

RIP: Seau


apparently Seau is french for bucket???
 
2012-05-02 03:01:40 PM  
ESPN comment hilarity ensues.
 
2012-05-02 03:01:59 PM  

Ray_Peranus: Samoans do NOT fark around...

/he's Samoan right?


Not anymore
 
2012-05-02 03:02:18 PM  
LOLOL "breaking news" from ESPN. Such timely reporting!
 
2012-05-02 03:02:30 PM  
upload.wikimedia.org


ppft. Amateur
 
2012-05-02 03:02:42 PM  
ESPN is saying a shooting with multiple unconfirmed reports he's dead.

I see USA Today, LA Times, Huffington Post confirming dead, and several NFL players, including OchoCinco being sad saying dead.

Now ESPN talking about bounties.
 
2012-05-02 03:02:43 PM  

Zombie Hitler: Someone people cared about killed themselves. If it was a farker it would be the biggest tragedy on the planet, but because it's not, it's funny. There's never a point when (alleged) suicide is funny.


You sure you want to go with that angle?

3.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-05-02 03:02:48 PM  
Another (more local than the U-T) local paper story: Link

If that story is accurate, I think I know the person that found him.
 
2012-05-02 03:03:12 PM  

PowerSlacker: Rising From Ashes: I'm reading "dead from self-inflicted ginshot to the chest"

So the Dave Duerson comparision sounds accurate. Save the brain from science.

I didn't even know that Seau had shot himself in the chest when I submitted the link.

I swear I have an alibi.


Are you a wizard?
 
2012-05-02 03:03:14 PM  

SlothB77: apparently Seau is french for bucket???


you could say Junior kicked the Seau.
 
2012-05-02 03:03:16 PM  

aquigley: He shot to the chest so they could do more CTE studies on his brain, just like Dave Duerson.


Not necessarily true. That may be how he did it. And that may be why he did it that way if true. But as the other guy pointed out, dudes who never played football been shooting themselves in the chest for a long time. Unless there's a note and even if there is we don't know squat until they look at the brain.
 
2012-05-02 03:03:17 PM  
Report confirmed by CBS News (radio). :(

/still in shock
 
2012-05-02 03:03:28 PM  

hulk hogan meat shoes: CavalierEternal: ESPN DEVELOPING STORY...

...Amare Stoudemire will miss two playoff games with a hand injury.

That he got when he slammed his hand into a fire extinguisher.


"The meaty part of (his) palm, below the pinkie, was hanging off."
 
2012-05-02 03:03:38 PM  

aquigley: He shot to the chest so they could do more CTE studies on his brain, just like Dave Duerson.


Agreed. Hope he left a note about that too, describing any symptoms. Problem is, we never see suicide notes, not sure why -- we'd be a lot more informed public if we knew what was driving some of these people.
 
2012-05-02 03:03:44 PM  

LarryDan43: RumsfeldsReplacement: It's almost as if a lifetime of being subjected to brain damage can cause someone to be depressed and commit suicide. I wonder if there's a connection.....

/ in all seriousness, American football as we know it will not exist 20 years from now
// it will only take one winning lawsuit, and yes, it's coming

That's the reason the nfl set aside a bigger portion of the tv money they got from the lockout last year. Its all for concussion lawsuits.


Yeah.... remember, the NFL makes just short of $5 billion/yr on national TV rights revenue alone. So, yes, a bunch of lawsuits would be troublesome to the NFL. But, it will have to reach 100s of players winning $10 million+ each in court before it would actually "take down" the NFL.
 
2012-05-02 03:03:51 PM  

SlothB77: [www.hellopro.fr image 500x500]

RIP: Seau
apparently Seau is french for bucket???


Now it all makes sense. He got frustrated with something, and said, "Dammit, I'm kicking myself over this!"
 
2012-05-02 03:04:08 PM  

extroverted_suicide: JustGetItRight: DamnYankees: GWSuperfan: Some of the local news is saying it's a suicide. IDK- Junior's a nice guy. I'm tempted to run down to the coffeeshop and see if anyone has heard anything.

I don't see how it would be a suicide if multiple shots were fired.

I've responded to an attempted suicide with multiple shots fired. She shot herself too high and at a bad angle the first time and thus only managed to break her collarbone.

Did a better job with the second round but still missed her heart and survived.

Wait, was this idiot trying to off herself by shooting herself in the CHEST?


Some people want to kill themselves without destroying their head, so they'll have a corpse that can be seen in a casket.
Some people also think their heart is in the upper left portion of their chest and subsequently miss the real location, which is closer to the middle of the chest than the left side.

www.healthhype.com
 
2012-05-02 03:04:09 PM  

Rising From Ashes: ESPN is saying a shooting with multiple unconfirmed reports he's dead.

I see USA Today, LA Times, Huffington Post confirming dead, and several NFL players, including OchoCinco being sad saying dead.

Now ESPN talking about bounties.


A San Diego TV station had video footage of Seau's mother weeping in the driveway of the house, but I guess that's not confirmation enough.
 
2012-05-02 03:04:18 PM  
he wrote in his suicide note that he was donating his brain to science to see the effects of football hits on the brain because he thinks thats what caused his deep depression


is this true?
 
2012-05-02 03:04:31 PM  
Wow. Very classy ESPN, wait until your on the way out, after all commercial spots are logged.

If it's Tebow saving a kitten from a tree, you break into your programming.
 
2012-05-02 03:04:50 PM  

static.rhap.com
RIP Junior Senior

 
2012-05-02 03:05:01 PM  

krackpipe: aquigley: He shot to the chest so they could do more CTE studies on his brain, just like Dave Duerson.

Agreed. Hope he left a note about that too, describing any symptoms. Problem is, we never see suicide notes, not sure why -- we'd be a lot more informed public if we knew what was driving some of these people.


There are other reports that it was a wound to the head. I've seen both reported.

I hope there's a note in either case, always wonder what it is that troubles people so.
 
2012-05-02 03:05:07 PM  
wait whats with the wrecked cars and the multiple dead bodies?
 
2012-05-02 03:05:10 PM  

tenton: According to this


thanks :)
 
2012-05-02 03:05:21 PM  
That 1994 Chargers team never got enough credit. Yes, the 49ers made 'em Seau in the Super Bowl, but I think the fate would have been the same for ever other AFC team.

Hell of a player. RIP.
 
2012-05-02 03:05:24 PM  
Oh boy I hope a bunch of people come to this thread and realize thee are Other people who have the name "junior" too and then go on the internets and find pictures of them and post them in this thred with "RIP " captions, because that would be just so clever, and original, and High-Larious
 
2012-05-02 03:05:24 PM  
Still nothing on ESPN.com.
 
2012-05-02 03:05:55 PM  

hurdboy: That 1994 Chargers team never got enough credit. Yes, the 49ers made 'em Seau in the Super Bowl, but I think the fate would have been the same for ever other AFC team.

Hell of a player. RIP.


Yeah, no one expected them to upset the steelers that year
 
2012-05-02 03:06:00 PM  
He shot himself?! What the hell?! :-(
 
2012-05-02 03:06:29 PM  
This is depressing, but it pisses me off the guy had kids. He not only robbed his own life, but also robbed his kids of being the best dad he could be.
 
2012-05-02 03:06:33 PM  
RIP ina Babylon Junior Murvin (sans Mikey Dread)

i46.tinypic.com
 
2012-05-02 03:06:38 PM  
4.bp.blogspot.com

The natural consequence of our favorite bloodsport is often death.

/These guys die early. Sad but true.
 
2012-05-02 03:06:40 PM  
Heh. Scott Fajita.
 
2012-05-02 03:06:42 PM  
In Oceanside & being bothered by the helicopter hovering overhead so i'm getting a kick...

no seriously, how about landing at the local air strip and drive down to his house, maybe save a bit in gas costs? maybe? huh?
 
2012-05-02 03:06:45 PM  
It's on feaux news now.
 
2012-05-02 03:06:51 PM  
tmz > espn
 
2012-05-02 03:07:10 PM  
Junior Senior's reaction to the news:

i.imgur.com
 
2012-05-02 03:07:13 PM  

PowerSlacker: ESPN comment hilarity ensues.


Now watching those comments roll in is simply hilarious.
 
2012-05-02 03:07:15 PM  
ESPN is obviously waiting for OFFICIAL confirmation and also probably putting all their packages and scripts together, as it's obvious he's dead at this point.
 
2012-05-02 03:07:26 PM  

Isitoveryet: In Oceanside & being bothered by the helicopter hovering overhead so i'm getting a kick...

no seriously, how about landing at the local air strip and drive down to his house, maybe save a bit in gas costs? maybe? huh?


is his house on the bay side or ocean side?
 
2012-05-02 03:08:33 PM  
Hot girl/ugly and or fat friend dynamic going on now on SC.
 
2012-05-02 03:08:47 PM  

JohnBigBootay: TrainingWheelsNeeded: how is there not a kate upton dancing thread?

wait, what?


there is video of kate dancing in a bikini. It's a god bless America moment.
 
2012-05-02 03:09:02 PM  

Mob-Doc: RIP JUNIOR SENIOR


GAHHHH beaten to the punch
 
2012-05-02 03:09:09 PM  

WienerButt: It's on feaux news now.


Woops. Faux news. It's breaking news on there which is surprising considering they won't even televise Obama's speeches.
 
2012-05-02 03:10:14 PM  
Looks like we have a case
4.bp.blogspot.com

of SeaUicide!

YEEEAHH!!!!
 
2012-05-02 03:10:27 PM  
Seau was involved in a car accident back in 2010 when he drove his SUV off a cliff in Carlsbad, CA hours after he was arrested for allegedly attacking his girlfriend. Seau later said he was not trying to kill himself ... insisting he had fallen asleep at the wheel.

The man was fighting some inner demons me thinks. Could be head trauma and 'roids contributed, maybe not. Very sad regardless. Excellent player back in the day.
 
2012-05-02 03:10:37 PM  
Man, that's farked up...Junior was a hell of a player, just a farking BEAST. Carried my Chargers to the Super Bowl. I'm sad now.
 
2012-05-02 03:10:43 PM  
I got into an argument with the NBC affiliate out of Albany, GA, about when this story was confirmed vs. when this story was first reported. Them: "TMZ didn't even confirm this 45 minutes ago." Me: "I don't trust TMZ any further than I can throw it, so I went to the ABC affiliate out of San Diego itself as soon as I heard."

Oh WALB, your derp will never cease to amaze me, even a thousand miles away from you.
 
2012-05-02 03:10:47 PM  
And now ESPN covers it live.
 
2012-05-02 03:11:11 PM  

WTF Indeed: This will not be good for the NFL brain damage lawsuits that are currently in the courts. The NFL will have to pay out A LOT of money soon.



Don't see the causal connection. Anectdotal but not causal.
 
2012-05-02 03:11:15 PM  
ESPN just put up the banner, it's confirmed.
 
2012-05-02 03:11:23 PM  
ESPN on TV confirming he is dead.
 
2012-05-02 03:11:36 PM  
Chad Ochocinco is sending out RIPs on twitter
 
2012-05-02 03:12:00 PM  

Skanque: PowerSlacker: ESPN comment hilarity ensues.

Now watching those comments roll in is simply hilarious.


I really don't care for ESPN's constantly-updating comment feed. It actually makes it hard to read with the comments jumping around constantly. It should update every minute or something - give me a chance to read a few comments that have already been posted.
 
2012-05-02 03:12:07 PM  
Another headline could have been "Junior Say Ow."
 
2012-05-02 03:12:07 PM  

SoCalSurfer: Yeah, no one expected them to upset the steelers that year


I didn't expect it, but I wasn't surprised, either. Good power inside power running game, QB who throws a good 15-25 out perfectly. Stillurhs didn't get better against those the next year, and it showed against Dallas.

//99 Rams would have turned those mid-90s Steelers teams into mincemeat.
 
2012-05-02 03:12:18 PM  
It's being reported by MSNBC
 
2012-05-02 03:12:38 PM  
Police at the scene now retracting their statements saying it was a suicide
 
2012-05-02 03:12:50 PM  
Probably the biggest sports celeb I've met.*
I met him at Dini's by the sea in Carlsbad about a week before Super bowl XXX.
He invited me and my crew of 5, and about 10 other guys at the bar to go down the street to play a pick up game that evolved into kill the man with the ball.
I was sore for days.

*I think he outranks Clete Boyer on the famous scale.

/csb
 
2012-05-02 03:13:16 PM  

Giant Clown Shoe: [4.bp.blogspot.com image 320x320]
The natural consequence of our favorite bloodsport is often death.

/These guys die early. Sad but true.


I'm not sure I see what's "natural" about intentionally blowing your brains out with a gun.
 
2012-05-02 03:13:17 PM  
from dave duerson's wiki page: "On May 2, 2011 researcher neurologists at Boston University confirmed that he suffered from a neurodegenerative disease linked to concussions."

eerie

insert-generic-conspiracy-guy-here.jpg

/not saying it was aliens...
 
2012-05-02 03:13:46 PM  
RIP Junior Say-Oww
 
2012-05-02 03:13:53 PM  
Say it aint Seau.
 
2012-05-02 03:14:00 PM  

Snotnose: Sorta met him once. Leaving a restaurant in Del Mar he got behind us in the valet line. I looked at him, he noticed, and I decided to leave him his privacy. What shocked me was he was a lot smaller in person than I imagined him to be.

Very sad story.


Yeah your CSB was pretty sad. As in lame.
Try & zaz it up next time will ya? Make something up, even, dammit!
 
2012-05-02 03:14:04 PM  
Did ESPN.com take a long lunch break today?
 
2012-05-02 03:14:10 PM  

FreakinB: muck4doo: I don't get it. Why would someone with a HOF career, loads of money, hot babes wanting him, and fame commit suicide? Us schmuck fans don't have any of that, but we're not sitting there offing ourselves.

If the cause that people are guessing is correct, then it's the same reason that people can still have anxiety and depression even when they seem to have it all: A messed up brain is a messed up brain. No amount of money, fame, etc. can fix that.


i have a deep sympathy for depressed people with regards to suicide, but somehow, i suspect that his body being in constant pain from the constant beatings it received during his career, including both concussions and other physical injuries he suffered during his play time.

i'm a hardcore migraineur, and believe me, I've thought of going all Pi on myself when I'm in the middle of a 6 week banger. If he was looking at another 30-40 years of excruciating pain along with increased risk of parkinsons (or already suffering from parkinsons), I don't think that the usual "depression" assumption holds water.

And for those of you saying that they're afraid that the NFL may have to change/go away. GOOD. It should. It causes permanent physical damage to an incredibly large amount of the population, from pee-wee league through the NFL.

How on earth could the NFL pass an OSHA inspection? Armored wankball should go the fark away and only be talked about with onions on our belts.
 
2012-05-02 03:14:26 PM  

SoCalSurfer: Isitoveryet: In Oceanside & being bothered by the helicopter hovering overhead so i'm getting a kick...

no seriously, how about landing at the local air strip and drive down to his house, maybe save a bit in gas costs? maybe? huh?

is his house on the bay side or ocean side?


Oceanside has a small marina/harbor no real bay to speak of, his house must be just south of the pier (or near the pier)
 
2012-05-02 03:14:40 PM  
Goodbye Junior, to get over your death I watched this video Link
 
2012-05-02 03:14:44 PM  
Nfl.com has it, but ESPN still doesn't. Idiots.
 
2012-05-02 03:15:21 PM  
sad Fight On, Petros from the "Petros & Money" Sports radio show was a Trojan, he always has good insights... static5.businessinsider.com
 
2012-05-02 03:15:28 PM  

dletter: So far I'm only seeing this on TMZ (not on ESPN yet)... but, if TMZ blows this, that will be a pretty big goof on their part, so, I'll assume they have some sort of inside police source that they are putting a scoop out on.

If this does prove to be a suicide, this will be the one that really gets peoples attention if it gets pinned back to head trauma issues like Duerson's did. Not that Dave Duerson wasn't a sad example, but, he didn't have the level of fame Seau did.


Yup. I've been saying it for the past few years: these guys are actual celebrities now, so when they start going full Duerson or getting on TV and talking like they've got a mouth full of marbles in their 40's the reaction the general public will have is going to be pretty stark. Seau played recently enough to fit into that mold, but he's just the first of many to come.
 
2012-05-02 03:16:48 PM  
From FB:

LaMarr Woodley
RIP 2 junior seau... 1 of the best LB's to ever play the game
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2012-05-02 03:16:49 PM  

SoCalSurfer: Police at the scene now retracting their statements saying it was a suicide


okay, I laughed a little
 
2012-05-02 03:17:07 PM  
And there is the banner on SI.com.

\Sad.
 
2012-05-02 03:17:21 PM  

the biggest redneck here: or getting on TV and talking like they've got a mouth full of marbles in their 40's


upload.wikimedia.org

Whadba the heb you talbing ebot?
 
2012-05-02 03:17:21 PM  
Meh.
 
2012-05-02 03:17:35 PM  

SlothB77: [www.hellopro.fr image 500x500]

RIP: Seau
apparently Seau is french for bucket???


I hope he finished off his Seau list.
 
2012-05-02 03:17:37 PM  
And ESPN is talking about the Saints again.
 
2012-05-02 03:17:56 PM  

muck4doo: This is depressing, but it pisses me off the guy had kids. He not only robbed his own life, but also robbed his kids of being the best dad he could be.


One of his sons is a top lacrosse recruit going to Duke.
 
2012-05-02 03:17:57 PM  

Robert1966: Nfl.com has it, but ESPN still doesn't. Idiots.


Its on the headlines sidebar. The Saints Vilma suspension is still the main story.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/7882750/former-nfl-linebacker-great - junior-seau-dies-43
 
2012-05-02 03:18:00 PM  

EnderWiggnz: FreakinB: muck4doo: I don't get it. Why would someone with a HOF career, loads of money, hot babes wanting him, and fame commit suicide? Us schmuck fans don't have any of that, but we're not sitting there offing ourselves.

If the cause that people are guessing is correct, then it's the same reason that people can still have anxiety and depression even when they seem to have it all: A messed up brain is a messed up brain. No amount of money, fame, etc. can fix that.

i have a deep sympathy for depressed people with regards to suicide, but somehow, i suspect that his body being in constant pain from the constant beatings it received during his career, including both concussions and other physical injuries he suffered during his play time.

i'm a hardcore migraineur, and believe me, I've thought of going all Pi on myself when I'm in the middle of a 6 week banger. If he was looking at another 30-40 years of excruciating pain along with increased risk of parkinsons (or already suffering from parkinsons), I don't think that the usual "depression" assumption holds water.

And for those of you saying that they're afraid that the NFL may have to change/go away. GOOD. It should. It causes permanent physical damage to an incredibly large amount of the population, from pee-wee league through the NFL.

How on earth could the NFL pass an OSHA inspection? Armored wankball should go the fark away and only be talked about with onions on our belts.


Oh shut the hell up. More people die by automobile every year than die by football. Should we ban cars too?
 
2012-05-02 03:19:09 PM  

Bag of Hammers: Ray_Peranus: Samoans do NOT fark around...

/he's Samoan right?

Not anymore


partneryahoo.photobucket.com
 
2012-05-02 03:19:12 PM  

Isitoveryet: SoCalSurfer: Isitoveryet: In Oceanside & being bothered by the helicopter hovering overhead so i'm getting a kick...

no seriously, how about landing at the local air strip and drive down to his house, maybe save a bit in gas costs? maybe? huh?

is his house on the bay side or ocean side?

Oceanside has a small marina/harbor no real bay to speak of, his house must be just south of the pier (or near the pier)


huh? His house is in coronado, i was asking if it was on the san diego bay side or the side facing the pacific.

narwhaler.com
 
2012-05-02 03:19:12 PM  
Hey look, ESPN.com finally has broken the story. Good for them.
 
2012-05-02 03:19:20 PM  
ESPN.com finally front page news. Guess they finally dug up that photo of Seau.
 
2012-05-02 03:19:48 PM  

Treygreen13: houndoggie: He was a beast in Super Tecmo Bowl.

He was?
[i88.photobucket.com image 400x350]


Ha! Only on Fark would some one make a Super Tecmo Bowl joke... and then have the joke fact checked.
 
2012-05-02 03:19:53 PM  
There we go, ESPN.com frontpage.
 
2012-05-02 03:19:58 PM  

Rising From Ashes: And ESPN is talking about the Saints again.


imageshack.us
 
2012-05-02 03:20:17 PM  
From the ESPN article, it looks like they might have been waiting for a comment from Charger HQ to run with the story. Which is... a kinda odd editorial decision.
 
2012-05-02 03:20:44 PM  
This is what happens when people try to live in a whale's vagina.
 
2012-05-02 03:21:07 PM  

EnderWiggnz: FreakinB: muck4doo: I don't get it. Why would someone with a HOF career, loads of money, hot babes wanting him, and fame commit suicide? Us schmuck fans don't have any of that, but we're not sitting there offing ourselves.

If the cause that people are guessing is correct, then it's the same reason that people can still have anxiety and depression even when they seem to have it all: A messed up brain is a messed up brain. No amount of money, fame, etc. can fix that.

i have a deep sympathy for depressed people with regards to suicide, but somehow, i suspect that his body being in constant pain from the constant beatings it received during his career, including both concussions and other physical injuries he suffered during his play time.


I wasn't saying depression as the cause in and of itself, I was just using it as a sample of another type of brain condition that isn't going away no matter how much you have materially. When I said "cause that people are guessing" I meant the cumulative brain damage that's been a big topic recently with regard to former football players.

As for the rest of your post, I like NFL football, I'm a Giants fan, and I watch it every week. But I'm in my twenties now, and I wouldn't be at all surprised if it's vastly different, if not nonexistent, by the time I'm in my fifties.
 
2012-05-02 03:21:13 PM  

SoCalSurfer: Isitoveryet: SoCalSurfer: Isitoveryet: In Oceanside & being bothered by the helicopter hovering overhead so i'm getting a kick...

no seriously, how about landing at the local air strip and drive down to his house, maybe save a bit in gas costs? maybe? huh?

is his house on the bay side or ocean side?

Oceanside has a small marina/harbor no real bay to speak of, his house must be just south of the pier (or near the pier)

huh? His house is in coronado, i was asking if it was on the san diego bay side or the side facing the pacific.

[narwhaler.com image 640x664]



Wow I need coffee, what the hell is wrong with me. His house is in oceanside, why was I thinking coronado
 
2012-05-02 03:21:50 PM  
as resposted from TFD....


i was just thinking about him the other day, after Bruschi's quote about Harbaugh's criticism of the Pats' titles being tainted: "all i see when i look at my hand is 4 rings, and i know we won them the right way."

i thought of that shot of Seau and Bruschi huckin' and buckin' on the sideline after the Pats' go-ahead TD vs Giants. All hugging and smiling and shiat. i was like, "guys, the football gods see you...." and sure enough, David Tyree catches a ball with his facemask moments later. and the rest is history.

that unfortunately is how i remember Seau.


suicide.

so sad.
 
2012-05-02 03:21:52 PM  

FinFangFark: Wow. Very classy ESPN, wait until your on the way out, after all commercial spots are logged.

If it's Tebow saving a kitten from a tree, you break into your programming.


Or if Bryce Harper hits a dribbler up the 3B line and gets thrown out by 10 feet.

/ESPN -constantly fellating athletes since 1979
 
2012-05-02 03:22:41 PM  

extroverted_suicide: JustGetItRight: DamnYankees: GWSuperfan: Some of the local news is saying it's a suicide. IDK- Junior's a nice guy. I'm tempted to run down to the coffeeshop and see if anyone has heard anything.

I don't see how it would be a suicide if multiple shots were fired.

I've responded to an attempted suicide with multiple shots fired. She shot herself too high and at a bad angle the first time and thus only managed to break her collarbone.

Did a better job with the second round but still missed her heart and survived.

Wait, was this idiot trying to off herself by shooting herself in the CHEST?


Yep. See mine and other posts. It happens all the time. In my experience, she stands out because after failing the first time and certainly learning that gunshot wounds hurt, she shot herself again.
 
2012-05-02 03:23:35 PM  
 
2012-05-02 03:23:51 PM  
t3.gstatic.com

R.I.P. Mark Seay
 
2012-05-02 03:24:17 PM  
Wow. I'm 43 (as was Junior) and still feel like I have a lot of gas in the tank. I don't have millions of dollars and the adoration of the community either. Then again, I didn't have to get hit in the head repeatedly for those riches and adoration. Maybe going to work each day to pay the mortgage isn't so bad after all. RIP Junior.
 
2012-05-02 03:24:27 PM  

SoCalSurfer: SoCalSurfer: Isitoveryet: SoCalSurfer: Isitoveryet: In Oceanside & being bothered by the helicopter hovering overhead so i'm getting a kick...

no seriously, how about landing at the local air strip and drive down to his house, maybe save a bit in gas costs? maybe? huh?

is his house on the bay side or ocean side?

Oceanside has a small marina/harbor no real bay to speak of, his house must be just south of the pier (or near the pier)

huh? His house is in coronado, i was asking if it was on the san diego bay side or the side facing the pacific.

[narwhaler.com image 640x664]


Wow I need coffee, what the hell is wrong with me. His house is in oceanside, why was I thinking coronado


he's probably the only good thing to come out of Oceanside since... well, since evar.
 
2012-05-02 03:24:56 PM  
Wonder if this will impact the Vikings stadium plans..
 
2012-05-02 03:25:09 PM  
Someone mentioned that he's the 8th player off that 94' AFC Champs roster to die.

Anyone avoiding work and up for putting that list together?
 
2012-05-02 03:26:09 PM  

1994 was awesome, for that alone he will be missed. Rest in Peace Junior.latimesblogs.latimes.com

 
2012-05-02 03:26:19 PM  

FinFangFark: Anyone avoiding work and up for putting that list together?


Already in the thread
 
2012-05-02 03:26:42 PM  

Isitoveryet: he's probably the only good thing to come out of Oceanside since... well, since evar


HEY!!!

/born in Oceanside, NY
//didn't grew up there though, that's just where the hospital is
///lame humor
 
2012-05-02 03:26:51 PM  
The man loved vagina. He was a regular at the clubs downtown and hit on every hole in the place. Even while married.
 
2012-05-02 03:26:57 PM  
Seau's mom breaking down.
 
2012-05-02 03:27:14 PM  

PowerSlacker: ESPN comment hilarity ensues.


The mods are working overtime on that one. Crazy how many of the comments are getting deleted in less than a minute.
 
2012-05-02 03:27:14 PM  
Seau's mom is leaving me misty eyed. :(
 
2012-05-02 03:27:15 PM  
RIP Jr Walker and the All Stars
img716.imageshack.us
 
2012-05-02 03:27:32 PM  
Did she just say drive safely??
 
2012-05-02 03:28:07 PM  

EnderWiggnz:
How on earth could the NFL pass an OSHA inspection? Armored wankball should go the fark away and only be talked about with onions on our belts.


Better question how do Boxing and MMA continue to pass OSHA inspection? At least American football players wear gear designed to protect them from hits, unlike Boxing and MMA which wear protective gear so they can protect the hands of the fighter allowing them to hit more often.

Let's also not talk about Rugby and Australian rules football, which have no protective gear and the players can hit each other just as hard as in any American football game.

I'm sorry you find contact sports to be barbaric, but the world is a contact sport. So in reality they only reflect real life.

/played American football from elementary school through high school and never got more than a couple of cool scars
 
2012-05-02 03:28:09 PM  

Treygreen13: JohnBigBootay: TomD9938: Whoa... that's deep.

/and prolly true


Yes. Rich or poor if you aren't in control of your mind you have nothing. Nevertheless we should continue, as a nation, defunding mental health programs. Because handouts just encourage more people to be crazy you know...

I think a lot of the time even the mental health programs are dedicated to dispensing pharmaceuticals or comforting people with religion. Whereas actual therapists can provide some comfort to people by resolving internal issues.

I think we all deal with hopelessness at times. Hard to say that Seau needed any of those above things, or which one was more appropriate.

A national dialogue about mental health would certainly be a good thing.


So much THIS.
 
2012-05-02 03:28:11 PM  

Isitoveryet: SoCalSurfer: SoCalSurfer: Isitoveryet: SoCalSurfer: Isitoveryet: In Oceanside & being bothered by the helicopter hovering overhead so i'm getting a kick...

no seriously, how about landing at the local air strip and drive down to his house, maybe save a bit in gas costs? maybe? huh?

is his house on the bay side or ocean side?

Oceanside has a small marina/harbor no real bay to speak of, his house must be just south of the pier (or near the pier)

huh? His house is in coronado, i was asking if it was on the san diego bay side or the side facing the pacific.

[narwhaler.com image 640x664]


Wow I need coffee, what the hell is wrong with me. His house is in oceanside, why was I thinking coronado

he's probably the only good thing to come out of Oceanside since... well, since evar.


hah, the worst thing to come out of oceanside is all the people from LA traveling south on friday afternoons
 
2012-05-02 03:28:11 PM  
Death is stalking the 1994 Chargers, where the hell is Ray Finkle?

Link
 
2012-05-02 03:28:16 PM  

BunkoSquad: FinFangFark: Anyone avoiding work and up for putting that list together?

Already in the thread


Thanks kind sir. I missed it for some reason.
 
2012-05-02 03:28:39 PM  

Cyberluddite: Giant Clown Shoe: [4.bp.blogspot.com image 320x320]
The natural consequence of our favorite bloodsport is often death.

/These guys die early. Sad but true.

I'm not sure I see what's "natural" about intentionally blowing your brains out with a gun.


There reporting that he shot himself in the chest... like Dave Duerson. The reason for the chest shot rather than a head shot is so the brain can be examined for damage... like Dave Duerson. In Duerson's case they found significant brain damage that is likely the cause of his degenerative condition, erratic behavior and depression.

Duerson's Brain Trauma Diagnosed

An NFL player who spends 4 years in the league has a life expectancy of 55.

NFL is killing its players

The average American male lives to be almost 75. According to the Times report, an NFL player, whose career lasts roughly four years on average, lives to be 55. The more years a player spends in the NFL, the more games and practices he survives, the quicker he dies.

cdn3.sbnation.com

Were you not entertained?
 
2012-05-02 03:28:56 PM  
Well wasn't it a suicide attempt when he drove off the side of the cliff???
 
2012-05-02 03:29:21 PM  

ohdoublereally: His son just showed up on scene. I can't imagine. :(

kogo.com has pretty good local coverage on their live stream.


I found a friend in a similar situation a couple years ago. The initial shock wasn't bad, but telling his dad (WW2 vet) when he showed up on the scene was a nightmare.
 
2012-05-02 03:29:25 PM  
What a coincidence, a ton of EBAY sellers just happened to have uploaded a bunch of Junior Seau merchandise at the exact time this was announced.


/don't know who's worse, the people that capitalize on a death, or the morons who all of the sudden can't live without dead celebrities stuff
 
2012-05-02 03:29:43 PM  
He's dead, Jim.
 
2012-05-02 03:29:52 PM  

BunkoSquad: FinFangFark: Anyone avoiding work and up for putting that list together?

Already in the thread


Whoawhoawhoa! Doug Miller got struck by lightning TWICE? O_o
 
2012-05-02 03:31:05 PM  

FinFangFark: Someone mentioned that he's the 8th player off that 94' AFC Champs roster to die.

Anyone avoiding work and up for putting that list together?


Link
 
2012-05-02 03:31:21 PM  
8 members of that '95 (94 season) Super Bowl team have died already.
 
2012-05-02 03:31:31 PM  

Captain Steroid: BunkoSquad: FinFangFark: Anyone avoiding work and up for putting that list together?

Already in the thread

Whoawhoawhoa! Doug Miller got struck by lightning TWICE? O_o


Right? After that first strike, I'd be packing my shiat up and saying "fark this, I'm getting a hotel."
 
2012-05-02 03:31:34 PM  

jayhawk88: whizbangthedirtfarmer: jayhawk88: Rebelution: If this was a suicide as reported, I wonder what this will do to the concussion talks around the NFL. My thoughts go out to his family.

If concussions do turn out to be a factor somehow, it could be a tipping point. I think he was enough of a star/has enough name recognition that this will resonate with a lot of people.

Hell no. Americans love their violence. And many of the current players are of the "fark you, I got mine" mindset. Every year, players have an opportunity to donate a game check to Gridiron Greats, and what? A dozen or so of them do it?

I'm not saying it will be the death of football or anything, but I do think that we could see some major changes. We've already had some hints of kickoff-less football, and it wouldn't shock me to also see some things like restrictions on the amount of padding players can wear, more and more severe penalties for big hits, etc.

Ironically it's going to be ESPN that really decides where this conversation goes. They have the biggest platform, on any given day/week they can set the tone for sports discussion in this country...in a lot of very meaningful and not insignificant ways, how they choose to cover this is going to decide how much traction it continues to get.


And considering it's Disney owned, it can be as family friendly as you want. American style football fans (as them ferriners like to say), we're watching it go down the tubes as we speak. 15-20 years from now, soccer will take over.
 
2012-05-02 03:31:45 PM  

Brubold: 4NSpy: Damn.

Always respected Junior as a player even though he was a Charger.

Well aside from the PID use which may have caused the long term effects that led to suicide, yeah. I guess we'll know more soon enough.

Anyway, RIP

/Raider fan


Two corrections. Should have been PEDs (duh). Also, I was thinking of Merriman. I have no idea if Seau used PEDs or not.
 
2012-05-02 03:32:07 PM  

FinFangFark: Thanks kind sir. I missed it for some reason.


Well, this thread's moving fast, unlike the staff at ESPN.
 
2012-05-02 03:32:27 PM  
ESPN confirming a suicide
 
2012-05-02 03:33:27 PM  

hbk72777: What a coincidence, a ton of EBAY sellers just happened to have uploaded a bunch of Junior Seau merchandise at the exact time this was announced.


/don't know who's worse, the people that capitalize on a death, or the morons who all of the sudden can't live without dead celebrities stuff


The answer is ticket scalpers. They're the worst, they buy up all the tickets as soon as they go on sale and then up the price on craigslist, ebay etc etc

Try buying permits to hike/climb half dome when they go on sale during the spring. They cost about 2 dollars yet they're gone within minutes and immediately go on sale on craigslist for 200 bucks. It makes me feel very stabby
 
2012-05-02 03:34:21 PM  

FinFangFark: Captain Steroid: BunkoSquad: FinFangFark: Anyone avoiding work and up for putting that list together?

Already in the thread

Whoawhoawhoa! Doug Miller got struck by lightning TWICE? O_o

Right? After that first strike, I'd be packing my shiat up and saying "fark this, I'm getting a hotel."


Well, hard to walk away while someone's giving you CPR.
 
2012-05-02 03:34:37 PM  

Rising From Ashes: FinFangFark: Someone mentioned that he's the 8th player off that 94' AFC Champs roster to die.

Anyone avoiding work and up for putting that list together?

Link


"• In 1998, LB Doug Miller was struck by lightning while camping in Colorado. CPR was being performed on Miller when he was struck again by a second bolt."

Damn
 
2012-05-02 03:34:48 PM  

hdhale: Let's also not talk about Rugby and Australian rules football, which have no protective gear and the players can hit each other just as hard as in any American football game.


Except they don't. In rugby you can't just run someone over, you can have to wrap them up and bring them down. Rugby and Aussie Rules are quite different from football no matter how much some people like to say they're alike.
 
2012-05-02 03:35:07 PM  

PainfulItching: And considering it's Disney owned, it can be as family friendly as you want. American style football fans (as them ferriners like to say), we're watching it go down the tubes as we speak. 15-20 years from now, soccer will take over.


Soccer has its own CTE-related concussion risks.

Also, it still has too much grass diving.
 
2012-05-02 03:35:11 PM  

error 303: Oh man, ESPN already has NFL Power Rankings for the 2012 season...


Yeah, there's already a whole thread about it: Link
 
2012-05-02 03:35:16 PM  
ESPN confirming in the chest, and are talking about Dave Duerson and all that stuff
 
2012-05-02 03:35:44 PM  

BSABSVR: swangoatman: I second the Who? and add a "don;t giva damn"

You don;t care so much you had to speed type it right into the farking thread, huh?

/I CAN'T EVEN CHECK FOR TYPOS! I MUST LET THE WORLD KNOW LOUDLY AND RAPIDLY THAT I AM DISINTERESTED BUT NOT IN THE WAY THAT PEOPLE NORMALLY ARE DISINTERESTED AND IGNORE IT BUT IN THAT DOUCHEY WAY PEOPLE EXPRESS DISINTEREST ON FARK!


You are correct sir,Now finish blowing my dick so I can leave.
 
2012-05-02 03:36:09 PM  
TMZ: Joe Buck's favorite website.
 
2012-05-02 03:36:26 PM  

DrBenway: swangoatman: I second the Who? and add a "don;t giva damn"

Uh huh. But you just love the sound your fingers make tapping away on your keyboard. And hitting that "Add Comment" button, it just makes you feel so darned tingly. Who can blame you? You can't help yourself.


when your buddy is finished sucking my dick I'll let you wipe his mouth clean.
 
2012-05-02 03:37:12 PM  
Link
SoCalSurfer Wow I need coffee, what the hell is wrong with me. His house is in oceanside, why was I thinking coronado
'cause that's where this gangbanging thug was kickin' it when he never saw it comin';
farm6.staticflickr.com
 
2012-05-02 03:37:21 PM  
BR549

R.I.P
 
2012-05-02 03:38:17 PM  
stay classy San Diego

i7.photobucket.com
 
2012-05-02 03:38:36 PM  
The guy was a defensive football monster. He was awesome to watch. He gave back to the sport and was generous with donations of shoes and equipment to American Samoa which has produced some of the sport's toughest players. Godspeed.
 
2012-05-02 03:39:05 PM  
I hear Belichick has secret camera footage of the incident...
 
2012-05-02 03:39:19 PM  

urger: Who?


Sorry, this is the Sports tab. You were probably looking for Entertainment.
 
2012-05-02 03:40:07 PM  
I like that the url implies that Junior Seau was shooting police.
 
2012-05-02 03:40:48 PM  

BSABSVR: swangoatman: I second the Who? and add a "don;t giva damn"

You don;t care so much you had to speed type it right into the farking thread, huh?

/I CAN'T EVEN CHECK FOR TYPOS! I MUST LET THE WORLD KNOW LOUDLY AND RAPIDLY THAT I AM DISINTERESTED BUT NOT IN THE WAY THAT PEOPLE NORMALLY ARE DISINTERESTED AND IGNORE IT BUT IN THAT DOUCHEY WAY PEOPLE EXPRESS DISINTEREST ON FARK!


Very well said !!! I always enjoy how the hipster wanna-bes have to pretend they don't know who some big name person is, but they pine on forever about the wonderfullness of a Francois Shmuckatelly or some other no name. I guess we are to conclude that they are sooo worldly and eclectic.

/ Note to hipsters
//no one gives a rats ass that you don't know someone.
 
2012-05-02 03:41:21 PM  

EnderWiggnz: And for those of you saying that they're afraid that the NFL may have to change/go away. GOOD. It should. It causes permanent physical damage to an incredibly large amount of the population, from pee-wee league through the NFL.


That's an awful wordy way for you to say "I am a retard."
 
2012-05-02 03:41:33 PM  
vemundalvilde.blogpaint.com

RIP Cuba Gooding Jr.
 
2012-05-02 03:41:37 PM  
www.kinetics.co.nz

I see the teams are ready for the kickoff of Super Bowl 2052.

/roman numerals go away eventually too
 
2012-05-02 03:41:49 PM  
It was the Jews.
 
2012-05-02 03:42:15 PM  
Espn radio affiliate here in Miami reported the gunshot was to the chest a couple of minutes ago. Fwiw

Heard about seau a few mintues ago on the radio. That really sucks. RIP
 
Ehh
2012-05-02 03:42:47 PM  
*Reads AceThunder's link*

"In 1998, LB Doug Miller was struck by lightning while camping in Colorado. CPR was being performed on Miller when he was struck again by a second bolt."

Wow. God could not wait to be introduced.

/bolt joke
 
2012-05-02 03:43:12 PM  

Carousel Beast: That's an awful wordy way for you to say "I am a retard."


So that the life expectancy of someone who plays in the NFL for four years or more is 55 years old, isn't a problem?
 
2012-05-02 03:45:14 PM  

swangoatman: BSABSVR: swangoatman: I second the Who? and add a "don;t giva damn"

You don;t care so much you had to speed type it right into the farking thread, huh?

/I CAN'T EVEN CHECK FOR TYPOS! I MUST LET THE WORLD KNOW LOUDLY AND RAPIDLY THAT I AM DISINTERESTED BUT NOT IN THE WAY THAT PEOPLE NORMALLY ARE DISINTERESTED AND IGNORE IT BUT IN THAT DOUCHEY WAY PEOPLE EXPRESS DISINTEREST ON FARK!

You are correct sir,Now finish blowing my dick so I can leave.


Waiting for your mom to get off of it first.
 
2012-05-02 03:45:16 PM  

Treygreen13: DeltaPunch: Treygreen13: houndoggie: He was a beast in Super Tecmo Bowl.

He was?
[i88.photobucket.com image 400x350]

I applaud your commitment to providing relevant and topical reference material in which to make your case, good Sir.

Well it's certainly possible that he was. Super Tecmo Bowl was not a game known for its even-handed distribution of ability for each player.

For example, Bob Nelson was just stupid in that game.
[www.gameinformer.com image 261x230]

You might ask, "who is Bob Nelson?" And you'd be justified in asking because Bob Nelson wasn't really an important player. But god dammit could Bob sack the QB in the game. He was essentially unblockable.


Word. I forget the exact player I always used on the Bears (Singletary?), but I always ran this guy from the LB position. Since every member of the offensive line was busy blocking one of my linemen, I could always wedge him through line for the sack. Unblockable, essentially, indeed. ;)
 
2012-05-02 03:45:19 PM  
Damn sad news.
 
2012-05-02 03:45:39 PM  

Rising From Ashes: ESPN confirming in the chest, and are talking about Dave Duerson and all that stuff


Are they saying he did it that way for the same reason?
 
2012-05-02 03:45:57 PM  

muck4doo: Seau's mom is leaving me misty eyed. :(


I have no idea who thought it was a good idea to let her do that, this isn't the time. And of course, ABC10 in San Diego has already re-run the entire thing.
 
2012-05-02 03:46:21 PM  
MisterLoki

I didn't know that. Now that I'm looking it up...that's just weird! Add Ken Caminiti, who was almost royalty in America's Finest City during the mid-90's, I'm beginning to believe The Murph was built on ancient Mission Indian burial grounds.
 
2012-05-02 03:46:26 PM  

WhyteRaven74: Carousel Beast: That's an awful wordy way for you to say "I am a retard."

So that the life expectancy of someone who plays in the NFL for four years or more is 55 years old, isn't a problem?


cache.deadspin.com

Not for me, I got paid biatch!
 
2012-05-02 03:46:32 PM  

Treygreen13: muck4doo: I don't get it. Why would someone with a HOF career, loads of money, hot babes wanting him, and fame commit suicide? Us schmuck fans don't have any of that, but we're not sitting there offing ourselves.

Maybe once he had everything, he realized he really had nothing.


www.troll.me
 
2012-05-02 03:46:53 PM  
ESPN's speed in reporting the Seau Death > Tebow.

Am I doing it right?
 
2012-05-02 03:47:02 PM  

DeltaPunch: Treygreen13: DeltaPunch: Treygreen13: houndoggie: He was a beast in Super Tecmo Bowl.

He was?
[i88.photobucket.com image 400x350]

I applaud your commitment to providing relevant and topical reference material in which to make your case, good Sir.

Well it's certainly possible that he was. Super Tecmo Bowl was not a game known for its even-handed distribution of ability for each player.

For example, Bob Nelson was just stupid in that game.
[www.gameinformer.com image 261x230]

You might ask, "who is Bob Nelson?" And you'd be justified in asking because Bob Nelson wasn't really an important player. But god dammit could Bob sack the QB in the game. He was essentially unblockable.

Word. I forget the exact player I always used on the Bears (Singletary?), but I always ran this guy from the LB position. Since every member of the offensive line was busy blocking one of my linemen, I could always wedge him through line for the sack. Unblockable, essentially, indeed. ;)


Jerome Brown and Derrick Thomas would never be blocked too.
 
2012-05-02 03:47:08 PM  

WhyteRaven74: So that the life expectancy of someone who plays in the NFL for four years or more is 55 years old, isn't a problem?


No, not really. Like Paul Newman said in Road to Perdition. It's the life they chose for themselves.
 
2012-05-02 03:47:58 PM  

Carousel Beast: EnderWiggnz: And for those of you saying that they're afraid that the NFL may have to change/go away. GOOD. It should. It causes permanent physical damage to an incredibly large amount of the population, from pee-wee league through the NFL.

That's an awful wordy way for you to say "I am a retard."


Well, yes the "incredibly large amount of the population" is kinda dumb, but if head injuries had anything to do with the suicide, then it could end up being the straw that broke the camel's back. The NFL is changing, but probably not fast enough.

/RIP Junior
 
2012-05-02 03:48:05 PM  
Zombie Hitler: R.A.Danny: Zombie Hitler: Too difficult to green a headline that shows some farking respect, I suppose.

Looks at username, wonders if the irony of the statement is lost somewhere.

And "Welcome to Fark"

A username is meaningless.

Someone people cared about killed themselves. If it was a farker it would be the biggest tragedy on the planet, but because it's not, it's funny. There's never a point when (alleged) suicide is funny.


What about clown suicide?
 
2012-05-02 03:48:34 PM  
thevieweast.files.wordpress.com

R.I.P. Jr
 
2012-05-02 03:48:47 PM  

lunchinlewis: Rising From Ashes: ESPN confirming in the chest, and are talking about Dave Duerson and all that stuff

Are they saying he did it that way for the same reason?


No, just saying Duerson shot himself in the chest too, and telling why Dave did that. That haven't speculated on a reason for the suicide or method. Are mentioning him attempting suicide before by driving off a cliff.
 
2012-05-02 03:48:52 PM  
My only memory of him is seeing him getting his arm broken in a game against the Bears several years ago. RIP
 
2012-05-02 03:49:16 PM  
He shot himself in the chest, not the way to go if you're planning suicide.
 
2012-05-02 03:49:23 PM  

NightOwl2255: WhyteRaven74: So that the life expectancy of someone who plays in the NFL for four years or more is 55 years old, isn't a problem?

No, not really. Like Paul Newman said in Road to Perdition. It's the life they chose for themselves.


You're right. But it's still sadly tragic.
 
2012-05-02 03:49:48 PM  
12:29 PM PDT -- A rep for the Oceanside Police Department just spoke outside Seau's San Diego house, claiming Seau's body was initially discovered by Seau's girlfriend. Authorities responded, and found Seau's unconscious body inside a bedroom, with a gunshot wound to the chest.

Paramedics attempted to revive Seau, but life-saving efforts were unsuccessful. He was pronounced dead at the scene. His body is still inside the house.

The rep says investigators recovered a handgun on the scene. The case is being investigated as a suicide.

Seau's mother also spoke briefly -- and she was hysterical, crying to God, "Take me. Leave my son alone!"
 
2012-05-02 03:49:57 PM  

muck4doo: swangoatman: BSABSVR: swangoatman: I second the Who? and add a "don;t giva damn"

You don;t care so much you had to speed type it right into the farking thread, huh?

/I CAN'T EVEN CHECK FOR TYPOS! I MUST LET THE WORLD KNOW LOUDLY AND RAPIDLY THAT I AM DISINTERESTED BUT NOT IN THE WAY THAT PEOPLE NORMALLY ARE DISINTERESTED AND IGNORE IT BUT IN THAT DOUCHEY WAY PEOPLE EXPRESS DISINTEREST ON FARK!

You are correct sir,Now finish blowing my dick so I can leave.

Waiting for your mom to get off of it first.


PENIS
 
2012-05-02 03:50:38 PM  

the biggest redneck here: just the first of many to come.


Thank you for wild unsubstantiated allegation. Won't be surprising if it's football related but regular people kill themselves every single day. We have no idea if this is related to football or not. Well, you know I guess, the rest of us will have to wait.
 
2012-05-02 03:50:48 PM  

Karma Curmudgeon: What about clown suicide?


Screw clowns, they're scary.
 
2012-05-02 03:51:26 PM  

NightOwl2255: No, not really. Like Paul Newman said in Road to Perdition. It's the life they chose for themselves.


It doesn't matter what they chose, you don't let people turn their brains to jelly and then go "Not our problem".
 
2012-05-02 03:51:36 PM  

SoCalSurfer: Isitoveryet: SoCalSurfer: Isitoveryet: In Oceanside & being bothered by the helicopter hovering overhead so i'm getting a kick...

no seriously, how about landing at the local air strip and drive down to his house, maybe save a bit in gas costs? maybe? huh?

is his house on the bay side or ocean side?

Oceanside has a small marina/harbor no real bay to speak of, his house must be just south of the pier (or near the pier)

huh? His house is in coronado, i was asking if it was on the san diego bay side or the side facing the pacific.

[narwhaler.com image 640x664]


His house is in Oceanside, on the Strand. So, facing the ocean. Just south of the pier.
 
2012-05-02 03:52:11 PM  
Crime scene photo:

quarterbacks.org

/too soon?
 
2012-05-02 03:52:13 PM  

muck4doo: EnderWiggnz: FreakinB: muck4doo: I don't get it. Why would someone with a HOF career, loads of money, hot babes wanting him, and fame commit suicide? Us schmuck fans don't have any of that, but we're not sitting there offing ourselves.

If the cause that people are guessing is correct, then it's the same reason that people can still have anxiety and depression even when they seem to have it all: A messed up brain is a messed up brain. No amount of money, fame, etc. can fix that.

i have a deep sympathy for depressed people with regards to suicide, but somehow, i suspect that his body being in constant pain from the constant beatings it received during his career, including both concussions and other physical injuries he suffered during his play time.

i'm a hardcore migraineur, and believe me, I've thought of going all Pi on myself when I'm in the middle of a 6 week banger. If he was looking at another 30-40 years of excruciating pain along with increased risk of parkinsons (or already suffering from parkinsons), I don't think that the usual "depression" assumption holds water.

And for those of you saying that they're afraid that the NFL may have to change/go away. GOOD. It should. It causes permanent physical damage to an incredibly large amount of the population, from pee-wee league through the NFL.

How on earth could the NFL pass an OSHA inspection? Armored wankball should go the fark away and only be talked about with onions on our belts.

Oh shut the hell up. More people die by automobile every year than die by football. Should we ban cars too?


at least car manufacturers have been forced to install safety equipment that lessens the chance of injury instead of increasing it.

and you're making a slippery slope argument. i call logical fallacy.
 
2012-05-02 03:52:42 PM  

9beers: He shot himself in the chest, not the way to go if you're planning suicide.


It is if you want them to study your brain after death...
 
2012-05-02 03:52:43 PM  
oh dear lord espn showing his crying mom talking to the camera and going TAKE ME LEAVE MY SON
 
2012-05-02 03:52:47 PM  

NightOwl2255: WhyteRaven74: So that the life expectancy of someone who plays in the NFL for four years or more is 55 years old, isn't a problem?

No, not really. Like Paul Newman said in Road to Perdition. It's the life they chose for themselves.


I agree to an extent. The current base for a rookie is around $350k, veterans make a league minimum of about $500k on top of health insurance. I don't feel bad for them at all. Especially when the league AVERAGE salary is a 1 million.

But the guys that played in the 60s, 70s, and early 80s before free agency and the salaries boomed, I do think either better pensions or healthcare should be an issue.

Yes I know a big chunk of the lawsuits are from those guys, but when I hear about a guy who played in the late 90s early 2000s is in a lawsuit, I think it's stupid.
 
2012-05-02 03:53:27 PM  

9beers: He shot himself in the chest, not the way to go if you're planning suicide.


Unless you want your brain to be examined for signs of degeneration and TBI by Boston University's Center for the Study of Traumatic Encephalopathy like Dave Duerson.

/expect more chest shot suicides from former NFL players
 
2012-05-02 03:54:09 PM  
NightOwl2255 No, not really. Like Paul Newman said in Road to Perdition. It's the life they chose for themselves.

He's paraphrasing Hyman Roth eulogizing Moe Green in "Godfather 2";
Link
 
2012-05-02 03:54:31 PM  

FinFangFark: but when I hear about a guy who played in the late 90s early 2000s is in a lawsuit, I think it's stupid


Except the NFL knew what was up and didn't do anything about it. Plus the NFL isn't exactly very good for providing benefits for retired players.
 
2012-05-02 03:54:52 PM  

hdhale: EnderWiggnz:
How on earth could the NFL pass an OSHA inspection? Armored wankball should go the fark away and only be talked about with onions on our belts.

Better question how do Boxing and MMA continue to pass OSHA inspection? At least American football players wear gear designed to protect them from hits, unlike Boxing and MMA which wear protective gear so they can protect the hands of the fighter allowing them to hit more often.

Let's also not talk about Rugby and Australian rules football, which have no protective gear and the players can hit each other just as hard as in any American football game.

I'm sorry you find contact sports to be barbaric, but the world is a contact sport. So in reality they only reflect real life.

/played American football from elementary school through high school and never got more than a couple of cool scars


Boxing is barbaric and needs to go away as well, not only out of safety concerns, but because of the pure corruption in the sport. Like the late great Smoking Joe said, the promoter gets paid, the venue gets paid, everyone makes money, except the boxer. MMA rules are such that there's LESS of a chance of injury than boxing. Mind you, i spar kickbox and compete in NAGA bjj. If you get injured during either of those, its YOUR fault because you did something wrong. Football? Every single game someone loses their career.

Cool scars, eh? what about those times you got your bell rung... think that's going to affect you?

as for the no-pads version of contact sports, well... they actually have a lower rate of injury because they dont have a hard candy shell with which to attack the other players with.

Soccer/"real" football was a thugdriven sport pre 1970'ish, and they cleaned their act up. There's no reason that you need to watch gladiators risk life and limb for your entertainment on sundays.
 
2012-05-02 03:55:03 PM  

Rising From Ashes: 12:29 PM PDT -- A rep for the Oceanside Police Department just spoke outside Seau's San Diego house, claiming Seau's body was initially discovered by Seau's girlfriend. Authorities responded, and found Seau's unconscious body inside a bedroom, with a gunshot wound to the chest.

Paramedics attempted to revive Seau, but life-saving efforts were unsuccessful. He was pronounced dead at the scene. His body is still inside the house.

The rep says investigators recovered a handgun on the scene. The case is being investigated as a suicide.

Seau's mother also spoke briefly -- and she was hysterical, crying to God, "Take me. Leave my son alone!"


So terribly sad. She about drove me to tears.
Poor tortured soul, Junior. Now poor tortured soul, Mom.
I wish that the Seau family finds peace sooner than later.
 
2012-05-02 03:55:05 PM  

4NSpy: Damn.

Always respected Junior as a player even though he was a Charger.


This. RIP, Junior. Damned shame.
 
2012-05-02 03:55:22 PM  

WhyteRaven74: Carousel Beast: That's an awful wordy way for you to say "I am a retard."

So that the life expectancy of someone who plays in the NFL for four years or more is 55 years old, isn't a problem?


The goalposts looked fine where they originally were.
 
2012-05-02 03:55:46 PM  

EnderWiggnz: muck4doo: EnderWiggnz: FreakinB: muck4doo: I don't get it. Why would someone with a HOF career, loads of money, hot babes wanting him, and fame commit suicide? Us schmuck fans don't have any of that, but we're not sitting there offing ourselves.

If the cause that people are guessing is correct, then it's the same reason that people can still have anxiety and depression even when they seem to have it all: A messed up brain is a messed up brain. No amount of money, fame, etc. can fix that.

i have a deep sympathy for depressed people with regards to suicide, but somehow, i suspect that his body being in constant pain from the constant beatings it received during his career, including both concussions and other physical injuries he suffered during his play time.

i'm a hardcore migraineur, and believe me, I've thought of going all Pi on myself when I'm in the middle of a 6 week banger. If he was looking at another 30-40 years of excruciating pain along with increased risk of parkinsons (or already suffering from parkinsons), I don't think that the usual "depression" assumption holds water.

And for those of you saying that they're afraid that the NFL may have to change/go away. GOOD. It should. It causes permanent physical damage to an incredibly large amount of the population, from pee-wee league through the NFL.

How on earth could the NFL pass an OSHA inspection? Armored wankball should go the fark away and only be talked about with onions on our belts.

Oh shut the hell up. More people die by automobile every year than die by football. Should we ban cars too?

at least car manufacturers have been forced to install safety equipment that lessens the chance of injury instead of increasing it.

and you're making a slippery slope argument. i call logical fallacy.


And I call you stupid for wanting to ban football.
 
2012-05-02 03:56:17 PM  

Karma Curmudgeon: What about clown suicide?


Bzzt. Ironic, not funny.
 
2012-05-02 03:56:24 PM  

Rising From Ashes: oh dear lord espn showing his crying mom talking to the camera and going TAKE ME LEAVE MY SON


and this is where ESPN crosses the line into local-news-exploitation territory.

/Grief porn.
//What scumbags.
 
2012-05-02 03:56:56 PM  

9beers: He shot himself in the chest, not the way to go if you're planning suicide.


Know how I know you haven't been reading the thread?
 
2012-05-02 03:57:40 PM  
girlfriend was the one who found the body. Police are checking her for gun powder residue.
 
2012-05-02 03:57:50 PM  

Carousel Beast: EnderWiggnz: And for those of you saying that they're afraid that the NFL may have to change/go away. GOOD. It should. It causes permanent physical damage to an incredibly large amount of the population, from pee-wee league through the NFL.

That's an awful wordy way for you to say "I am a retard."


How so? I think that your narcissist is showing cheering for men to try to physically harm each other for your entertainment.
 
2012-05-02 03:57:57 PM  
Damnit why did they show his mom going hysterical on tv? That was just sad.
 
2012-05-02 03:58:39 PM  

FlyingJ: NightOwl2255 No, not really. Like Paul Newman said in Road to Perdition. It's the life they chose for themselves.

He's paraphrasing Hyman Roth eulogizing Moe Green in "Godfather 2";
Link


You don't buy out Moe Green! Moe Green buys you out!!
 
2012-05-02 03:58:42 PM  

Giant Clown Shoe: /expect more chest shot suicides from former NFL players


Stop saying that. As others have pointed out it's not exactly an uncommon way to do it. Knew a guy who shot himself in the chest myself.
 
2012-05-02 03:59:32 PM  

WhyteRaven74: FinFangFark: but when I hear about a guy who played in the late 90s early 2000s is in a lawsuit, I think it's stupid

Except the NFL knew what was up and didn't do anything about it. Plus the NFL isn't exactly very good for providing benefits for retired players.


And that's why I do feel for the older retired players, there is a good claim to their suits. As for guys that played in the 90s, when the league minimum was in the six figures, knowingly playing and seeing the effects of the injuries, they don't have a foot to stand on.

But when Seau's brain is test, and CTE is shown in the report, Congress is going to step in and grandstand, but this won't be like steroids, because there is list of dead players they can use as fodder.
 
2012-05-02 03:59:47 PM  

Giant Clown Shoe: Cyberluddite: Giant Clown Shoe: [4.bp.blogspot.com image 320x320]
The natural consequence of our favorite bloodsport is often death.

/These guys die early. Sad but true.

I'm not sure I see what's "natural" about intentionally blowing your brains out with a gun.

There reporting that he shot himself in the chest... like Dave Duerson. The reason for the chest shot rather than a head shot is so the brain can be examined for damage... like Dave Duerson. In Duerson's case they found significant brain damage that is likely the cause of his degenerative condition, erratic behavior and depression.

Duerson's Brain Trauma Diagnosed

An NFL player who spends 4 years in the league has a life expectancy of 55.

NFL is killing its players

The average American male lives to be almost 75. According to the Times report, an NFL player, whose career lasts roughly four years on average, lives to be 55. The more years a player spends in the NFL, the more games and practices he survives, the quicker he dies.

[cdn3.sbnation.com image 320x320]

Were you not entertained?


FTFA: "According to a 2006 report in the St. Petersburg Times, for every season a player spends on an NFL roster, his life expectancy decreases by almost three years.

Read that again.

The average American male lives to be almost 75. According to the Times report, an NFL player, whose career lasts roughly four years on average, lives to be 55. "

word problem time: for every season in NFL life expectancy decreases by three years. Average male life span 75 years. football player with four years 55? shouldn't that be around 63.
 
2012-05-02 03:59:52 PM  
ESPN announces The Civil War is over!
 
2012-05-02 04:00:10 PM  

AliceBToklasLives: Carousel Beast: EnderWiggnz: And for those of you saying that they're afraid that the NFL may have to change/go away. GOOD. It should. It causes permanent physical damage to an incredibly large amount of the population, from pee-wee league through the NFL.

That's an awful wordy way for you to say "I am a retard."

Well, yes the "incredibly large amount of the population" is kinda dumb, but if head injuries had anything to do with the suicide, then it could end up being the straw that broke the camel's back. The NFL is changing, but probably not fast enough.

/RIP Junior


That's his assertion. You know what activities really do cover that bolded part?

1) Any popular physical activity
2) Any career of manual labor

I have permanent chronic knee problems from working manufacturing for just 7 years. Should we ban manufacturing?

I didn't play myself, but I have a fair number of friends who have an assortment of lower extremity problems (particularly knees & ankles) from playing soccer, which isn't even a contact sport. Going to ban it?

Appeal to emotion fallacies can be fun, but when used to assert policies, they need to be called out.
 
2012-05-02 04:01:08 PM  
This just in: Seau killed himself cause he was fed up with the shiatty weather we're having in San Diego as of late.

Seasonal affective disorder takes another victim...
 
2012-05-02 04:01:41 PM  

EnderWiggnz: Carousel Beast: EnderWiggnz: And for those of you saying that they're afraid that the NFL may have to change/go away. GOOD. It should. It causes permanent physical damage to an incredibly large amount of the population, from pee-wee league through the NFL.

That's an awful wordy way for you to say "I am a retard."

How so? I think that your narcissist is showing cheering for men to try to physically harm each other for your entertainment.


Please see my post to AliceBToklasLives. Your appeal to emotion is showing.
 
2012-05-02 04:02:24 PM  

urger: Who?


who the fark are either of the people in the headline?
 
2012-05-02 04:02:42 PM  

TheReverendLei: This just in: Seau killed himself cause he was fed up with the shiatty weather we're having in San Diego as of late.

Seasonal affective disorder takes another victim...


No kidding, f**king may gray. That and the lack of decent swells lately
 
2012-05-02 04:03:10 PM  

WienerButt: Damnit why did they show his mom going hysterical on tv? That was just sad.


Yeah, that brought a tear to my eye. :(
 
2012-05-02 04:03:19 PM  

JohnBigBootay: Giant Clown Shoe: /expect more chest shot suicides from former NFL players

Stop saying that. As others have pointed out it's not exactly an uncommon way to do it. Knew a guy who shot himself in the chest myself.


Look, I agree that this happens elsewhere, but there's the beginning of a pattern here. It's an issue that's getting more and more attention. Even if nothing's confirmed in Seau's case yet, it's not an outrageous idea at all and I wouldn't be surprised if more of these happen going forward.
 
2012-05-02 04:03:39 PM  

Carousel Beast: EnderWiggnz: Carousel Beast: EnderWiggnz: And for those of you saying that they're afraid that the NFL may have to change/go away. GOOD. It should. It causes permanent physical damage to an incredibly large amount of the population, from pee-wee league through the NFL.

That's an awful wordy way for you to say "I am a retard."

How so? I think that your narcissist is showing cheering for men to try to physically harm each other for your entertainment.

Please see my post to AliceBToklasLives. Your appeal to emotion is showing.


And, FWIW, sorry to be so insulting originally. I really should have just said "you are not thinking this through." I was rude and I apologize.

You took the high road from my insult, and I respect that.
 
2012-05-02 04:03:41 PM  

AliceBToklasLives: Rising From Ashes: oh dear lord espn showing his crying mom talking to the camera and going TAKE ME LEAVE MY SON

and this is where ESPN crosses the line into local-news-exploitation territory.

/Grief porn.
//What scumbags.


Well, she's not talking to an ESPN reporter, she's at the press conferance being held
 
2012-05-02 04:03:44 PM  

TheReverendLei: This just in: Seau killed himself cause he was fed up with the shiatty weather we're having in San Diego as of late.

Seasonal affective disorder takes another victim...


SAD
 
2012-05-02 04:03:51 PM  

muck4doo: WienerButt: Damnit why did they show his mom going hysterical on tv? That was just sad.

Yeah, that brought a tear to my eye. :(


the worst was his son trying to get into the house through the police
 
2012-05-02 04:03:51 PM  

EnderWiggnz: hdhale: EnderWiggnz:
How on earth could the NFL pass an OSHA inspection? Armored wankball should go the fark away and only be talked about with onions on our belts.

Better question how do Boxing and MMA continue to pass OSHA inspection? At least American football players wear gear designed to protect them from hits, unlike Boxing and MMA which wear protective gear so they can protect the hands of the fighter allowing them to hit more often.

Let's also not talk about Rugby and Australian rules football, which have no protective gear and the players can hit each other just as hard as in any American football game.

I'm sorry you find contact sports to be barbaric, but the world is a contact sport. So in reality they only reflect real life.

/played American football from elementary school through high school and never got more than a couple of cool scars

Boxing is barbaric and needs to go away as well, not only out of safety concerns, but because of the pure corruption in the sport. Like the late great Smoking Joe said, the promoter gets paid, the venue gets paid, everyone makes money, except the boxer. MMA rules are such that there's LESS of a chance of injury than boxing. Mind you, i spar kickbox and compete in NAGA bjj. If you get injured during either of those, its YOUR fault because you did something wrong. Football? Every single game someone loses their career.

Cool scars, eh? what about those times you got your bell rung... think that's going to affect you?

as for the no-pads version of contact sports, well... they actually have a lower rate of injury because they dont have a hard candy shell with which to attack the other players with.

Soccer/"real" football was a thugdriven sport pre 1970'ish, and they cleaned their act up. There's no reason that you need to watch gladiators risk life and limb for your entertainment on sundays.


Your posts on this topic have been almost totally insane ramblings, but like that broken clock you've reached the time of day when you're right about something.

Football isn't going anywhere, and the game will look almost the same in a couple of decades. What will be vastly different is the headgear.

Much like racing had to adopt HANS devices to address basilar skull fractures and other closed head injuries, football's going get a redesigned helmet with some type of airbag effect. Once that happens, the concussion issue's going to mostly disappear.
 
2012-05-02 04:04:20 PM  

TrainingWheelsNeeded: Giant Clown Shoe: Cyberluddite: Giant Clown Shoe: [4.bp.blogspot.com image 320x320]
The natural consequence of our favorite bloodsport is often death.

/These guys die early. Sad but true.

I'm not sure I see what's "natural" about intentionally blowing your brains out with a gun.

There reporting that he shot himself in the chest... like Dave Duerson. The reason for the chest shot rather than a head shot is so the brain can be examined for damage... like Dave Duerson. In Duerson's case they found significant brain damage that is likely the cause of his degenerative condition, erratic behavior and depression.

Duerson's Brain Trauma Diagnosed

An NFL player who spends 4 years in the league has a life expectancy of 55.

NFL is killing its players

The average American male lives to be almost 75. According to the Times report, an NFL player, whose career lasts roughly four years on average, lives to be 55. The more years a player spends in the NFL, the more games and practices he survives, the quicker he dies.

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Were you not entertained?

FTFA: "According to a 2006 report in the St. Petersburg Times, for every season a player spends on an NFL roster, his life expectancy decreases by almost three years.

Read that again.

The average American male lives to be almost 75. According to the Times report, an NFL player, whose career lasts roughly four years on average, lives to be 55. "

word problem time: for every season in NFL life expectancy decreases by three years. Average male life span 75 years. football player with four years 55? shouldn't that be around 63.


The difference is playing time. If you spent only 1 or 2 years on a roster it is likely you were not very good and didn't play too much. If you make it to 4, its likely you played and probably started at least on special teams.
 
2012-05-02 04:04:37 PM  

EnderWiggnz: muck4doo: EnderWiggnz: FreakinB: muck4doo: I don't get it. Why would someone with a HOF career, loads of money, hot babes wanting him, and fame commit suicide? Us schmuck fans don't have any of that, but we're not sitting there offing ourselves.

If the cause that people are guessing is correct, then it's the same reason that people can still have anxiety and depression even when they seem to have it all: A messed up brain is a messed up brain. No amount of money, fame, etc. can fix that.

i have a deep sympathy for depressed people with regards to suicide, but somehow, i suspect that his body being in constant pain from the constant beatings it received during his career, including both concussions and other physical injuries he suffered during his play time.

i'm a hardcore migraineur, and believe me, I've thought of going all Pi on myself when I'm in the middle of a 6 week banger. If he was looking at another 30-40 years of excruciating pain along with increased risk of parkinsons (or already suffering from parkinsons), I don't think that the usual "depression" assumption holds water.

And for those of you saying that they're afraid that the NFL may have to change/go away. GOOD. It should. It causes permanent physical damage to an incredibly large amount of the population, from pee-wee league through the NFL.

How on earth could the NFL pass an OSHA inspection? Armored wankball should go the fark away and only be talked about with onions on our belts.

Oh shut the hell up. More people die by automobile every year than die by football. Should we ban cars too?

at least car manufacturers have been forced to install safety equipment that lessens the chance of injury instead of increasing it.

and you're making a slippery slope argument. i call logical fallacy.


e.e. cummings weighs in on football injuries.
 
2012-05-02 04:04:49 PM  
fark. I am stunned.

/San Diegan
 
2012-05-02 04:04:56 PM  

Carousel Beast: EnderWiggnz: Carousel Beast: EnderWiggnz: And for those of you saying that they're afraid that the NFL may have to change/go away. GOOD. It should. It causes permanent physical damage to an incredibly large amount of the population, from pee-wee league through the NFL.

That's an awful wordy way for you to say "I am a retard."

How so? I think that your narcissist is showing cheering for men to try to physically harm each other for your entertainment.

Please see my post to AliceBToklasLives. Your appeal to emotion is showing.


He wants a snow flake society.
 
2012-05-02 04:05:04 PM  

hulk hogan meat shoes: Oooh, Rachel Nichols on ESPN. Yum.


mmmmmmm...THIS......Rachel is so yummy, delecti, scrumpdilicious....
 
2012-05-02 04:05:35 PM  

www.blogcdn.com
RIP Junior Seau

 
2012-05-02 04:05:35 PM  

ekdikeo4: urger: Who?

who the fark are either of the people in the headline?


You don't have to click every thread; but if you do, try reading the article or Googling before you post.
/Who the fark are you?
 
2012-05-02 04:06:36 PM  

TrainingWheelsNeeded: FTFA: "According to a 2006 report in the St. Petersburg Times, for every season a player spends on an NFL roster, his life expectancy decreases by almost three years.

Read that again.

The average American male lives to be almost 75. According to the Times report, an NFL player, whose career lasts roughly four years on average, lives to be 55. "


You shouldn't compare them to the population at large. The control group should be other 250-320 .lb males who toiled in jobs which subject their bodies to extraordinary physical stress - let's say coal miners, fishermen, welders, carpenters and movers. Which I suspect also have a lower than average life expectancy. No doubt the NFL is bad for you, but your control group is not valid for meaningful statistical purposes.
 
2012-05-02 04:06:55 PM  

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2012-05-02 04:07:02 PM  

WhyteRaven74: NightOwl2255: No, not really. Like Paul Newman said in Road to Perdition. It's the life they chose for themselves.

It doesn't matter what they chose, you don't let people turn their brains to jelly and then go "Not our problem".


Where on earth did you ever get the idea that anyone is letting them do this? They are just doing it, because actions in free countries do not require the approval or permission of any one else. It's not our problem. It's the problem of the person who decided, as an adult, to accept large amounts of money in exchange for a service.

You don't get to be the world's babysitter.
 
2012-05-02 04:07:23 PM  
Strange things to consider:
1. Died of a chest wound. Not your typical suicide choice
2. Gun was found "nearby" so he wasn't next to the weapon or holding it
3. Found by "a woman alleged to be his girlfriend."

I say something's up.
 
2012-05-02 04:07:46 PM  

Carousel Beast: AliceBToklasLives: Carousel Beast: EnderWiggnz: And for those of you saying that they're afraid that the NFL may have to change/go away. GOOD. It should. It causes permanent physical damage to an incredibly large amount of the population, from pee-wee league through the NFL.

That's an awful wordy way for you to say "I am a retard."

Well, yes the "incredibly large amount of the population" is kinda dumb, but if head injuries had anything to do with the suicide, then it could end up being the straw that broke the camel's back. The NFL is changing, but probably not fast enough.

/RIP Junior

That's his assertion. You know what activities really do cover that bolded part?

1) Any popular physical activity
2) Any career of manual labor

I have permanent chronic knee problems from working manufacturing for just 7 years. Should we ban manufacturing?

I didn't play myself, but I have a fair number of friends who have an assortment of lower extremity problems (particularly knees & ankles) from playing soccer, which isn't even a contact sport. Going to ban it?

Appeal to emotion fallacies can be fun, but when used to assert policies, they need to be called out.


So are straw man fallacies - The argument (up there) was "the NFL may have to change/go away. GOOD. It should" - presumably 'it should change or go away.' I don't believe the word 'ban' was used.

The choice is not between keeping a system that demonstrably causes a great deal of physical damage unchanged and banning that system. There is a third possibility - a possibility the NFL Is already acting on (after all, what was the big news before Seau's suicide hit?)

/there's also the PR angle - forget personal responsibility and forget appeals to other damaging activities - can the NFL withstand an onslaught on bad PR? Maybe, maybe not. That alone may be reason enough to change.
 
2012-05-02 04:07:46 PM  
Take ME...leave my son!........drive safely....

I'm Gobsmacked.....
 
2012-05-02 04:08:03 PM  
I feel awful for his mother. She is in complete shock and is hysterical. Shame on the media for expoiting her at this raw moment.
 
2012-05-02 04:08:58 PM  
I blame ryan leaf. If he had been better, seau wouldn't have been on the field so much.

cache.deadspin.com

F**k you leaf
 
2012-05-02 04:09:33 PM  

PeppermintHippo: I feel awful for his mother. She is in complete shock and is hysterical. Shame on the media for expoiting her at this raw moment.


I mean, yeah they're going to use that video over and over again, but nobody dragged her to the podium. I can't even begin to imagine who thought that was a good idea.
 
2012-05-02 04:09:37 PM  
Junior say "Ow"
 
2012-05-02 04:10:02 PM  
kareemabduljabbar.com

RIP Junior Seau

 
2012-05-02 04:10:07 PM  

JohnBigBootay: TrainingWheelsNeeded: FTFA: "According to a 2006 report in the St. Petersburg Times, for every season a player spends on an NFL roster, his life expectancy decreases by almost three years.

Read that again.

The average American male lives to be almost 75. According to the Times report, an NFL player, whose career lasts roughly four years on average, lives to be 55. "

You shouldn't compare them to the population at large. The control group should be other 250-320 .lb males who toiled in jobs which subject their bodies to extraordinary physical stress - let's say coal miners, fishermen, welders, carpenters and movers. Which I suspect also have a lower than average life expectancy. No doubt the NFL is bad for you, but your control group is not valid for meaningful statistical purposes.


You've been around enough to know you don't use logic to argue on fark.
 
2012-05-02 04:10:17 PM  
FARK NFL threads always bring out the best in people.
RIP Junior. You were a helluva linebacker and a pretty cool guy to boot.

/fark the Patriots.
 
2012-05-02 04:10:18 PM  

TrainingWheelsNeeded: FTFA: "According to a 2006 report in the St. Petersburg Times, for every season a player spends on an NFL roster, his life expectancy decreases by almost three years.

Read that again.

The average American male lives to be almost 75. According to the Times report, an NFL player, whose career lasts roughly four years on average, lives to be 55. "

word problem time: for every season in NFL life expectancy decreases by three years. Average male life span 75 years. football player with four years 55? shouldn't that be around 63.


So if a player managed to stay in the league for 17 years, he'd have been dead since around the day he was drafted!
 
2012-05-02 04:10:35 PM  

LarryDan43: The difference is playing time. If you spent only 1 or 2 years on a roster it is likely you were not very good and didn't play too much. If you make it to 4, its likely you played and probably started at least on special teams.


Playtime is where the worst hits happen but gradual wear does come from practice/training. So even journeyman backups have their fair share of concussion opportunities.
 
2012-05-02 04:10:40 PM  

highendmighty: ekdikeo4: urger: Who?

who the fark are either of the people in the headline?

You don't have to click every thread; but if you do, try reading the article or Googling before you post.
/Who the fark are you?


C'mon, this is Fark. We have are own little underbelly of trollers that just make an effort to show how important their lives are outside of pop culture, and just post "Who?" on random threads to show the irrelevance of said thread. They claim to not know the person, nor the story, but they took the time to click the thread, read through comments, and then post. They then disappear back home:
images.wikia.com
 
2012-05-02 04:10:47 PM  

Udontknowme: BSABSVR: swangoatman: I second the Who? and add a "don;t giva damn"

You don;t care so much you had to speed type it right into the farking thread, huh?

/I CAN'T EVEN CHECK FOR TYPOS! I MUST LET THE WORLD KNOW LOUDLY AND RAPIDLY THAT I AM DISINTERESTED BUT NOT IN THE WAY THAT PEOPLE NORMALLY ARE DISINTERESTED AND IGNORE IT BUT IN THAT DOUCHEY WAY PEOPLE EXPRESS DISINTEREST ON FARK!

Very well said !!! I always enjoy how the hipster wanna-bes have to pretend they don't know who some big name person is, but they pine on forever about the wonderfullness of a Francois Shmuckatelly or some other no name. I guess we are to conclude that they are sooo worldly and eclectic.

/ Note to hipsters
//no one gives a rats ass that you don't know someone.


I'm a hipster. YOU are so funny. Now swallow .
 
2012-05-02 04:10:55 PM  

capngroovy: MisterLoki

I didn't know that. Now that I'm looking it up...that's just weird! Add Ken Caminiti, who was almost royalty in America's Finest City during the mid-90's, I'm beginning to believe The Murph was built on ancient Mission Indian burial grounds.


Ken Caminiti's death also stunned me. They were young guys.
 
2012-05-02 04:10:58 PM  
I don't get why Goodell hasn't already teamed up with the NFLPA to mandate that players must use the safer helmets already. When you have players making helmet choices based on how they look in them, it won't end well. Football is a cash cow, but the NFL can't make money if they're buried under a pile of CTE lawsuits - and neither can they if their talent pipelines are choked off by those same lawsuits.

The NFL needs to take the lead on this thing and quickly too.
 
2012-05-02 04:11:03 PM  

Unhip1: 1. Died of a chest wound. Not your typical suicide choice


The speculation is that he wanted to preserve his brain for research on the chronic trauma associated w/ playing linebacker in the NFL.
 
2012-05-02 04:11:50 PM  

Unhip1: Strange things to consider:
1. Died of a chest wound. Not your typical suicide choice
2. Gun was found "nearby" so he wasn't next to the weapon or holding it
3. Found by "a woman alleged to be his girlfriend."

I say something's up.


If they find gunpowder residue on his hands, the gun doesn't need to be in his hand...and a chest wound wouldn't be immediately fatal as a head wound would be. In other words, he may have been conscious for a few seconds before perishing. The autopsy will shed a lot of light.

In any case, it's a sad thing.
 
2012-05-02 04:12:15 PM  
from the fan sites..
HA HA '

"He brought so much joy to everyone around him...except that whole wife beating thing.
and this jewel...
Everyone at the Chargers is in complete shock and disbelief right now...from finding out that a person CAN own a gun in California.
 
2012-05-02 04:12:43 PM  

sportsjourneyradio.files.wordpress.com
RIP Junior Seau

 
2012-05-02 04:12:57 PM  

FreakinB: Look, I agree that this happens elsewhere, but there's the beginning of a pattern here. It's an issue that's getting more and more attention. Even if nothing's confirmed in Seau's case yet, it's not an outrageous idea at all and I wouldn't be surprised if more of these happen going forward.


I don't disagree that it could be the beginning of a pattern. I'm also not going to discount the possibility that Jr. Seau was depressed and shot himself. Like people do. I just think we're more likely to accept the truth of a situation when we see it if we don't pre-judge the outcome.The fact is until they go look at a whole bunch of non-football people brain tissue after suicides it's just speculation. A great start of a theory. And one I will not be at all surprised to have confirmed. Just saying people kill themselves... and we rarely know exactly why. But this is a hot topic right now so everyone will just know it has to be because he played football.
 
2012-05-02 04:12:59 PM  

vwarb: Where on earth did you ever get the idea that anyone is letting them do this?


We just had the first season with any sort of concussion protocol for the NFL. So until this last season who knows how many players were playing with concussions and getting their brains rattled even worse. This while any doctor you ask could explain to you why this is a very bad thing. Would have been nice if the NFL had bothered to listen just a wee bit earlier.
 
2012-05-02 04:14:29 PM  
I've heard of playing the shotgun formation, but-
 
2012-05-02 04:15:39 PM  

netweavr: [kareemabduljabbar.com image 340x395]
RIP Junior Seau


Biness: [sportsjourneyradio.files.wordpress.com image 425x278]
RIP Junior Seau


YOUR JOKES ARE BAD AND YOU SHOULD FEEL BAD! >:-(
 
2012-05-02 04:16:08 PM  
Hope he didn't shoot himself in the head. Science needs his brain.
 
2012-05-02 04:16:25 PM  

AliceBToklasLives: Carousel Beast: AliceBToklasLives: Carousel Beast: EnderWiggnz: And for those of you saying that they're afraid that the NFL may have to change/go away. GOOD. It should. It causes permanent physical damage to an incredibly large amount of the population, from pee-wee league through the NFL.

That's an awful wordy way for you to say "I am a retard."

Well, yes the "incredibly large amount of the population" is kinda dumb, but if head injuries had anything to do with the suicide, then it could end up being the straw that broke the camel's back. The NFL is changing, but probably not fast enough.

/RIP Junior

That's his assertion. You know what activities really do cover that bolded part?

1) Any popular