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(TMZ) NewsFlash Junior Seau has gone full Dave Duerson   (tmz.com) divider line 786
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2012-05-02 03:19:12 PM
Hey look, ESPN.com finally has broken the story. Good for them.
 
2012-05-02 03:19:20 PM
ESPN.com finally front page news. Guess they finally dug up that photo of Seau.
 
2012-05-02 03:19:48 PM

Treygreen13: houndoggie: He was a beast in Super Tecmo Bowl.

He was?
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Ha! Only on Fark would some one make a Super Tecmo Bowl joke... and then have the joke fact checked.
 
2012-05-02 03:19:53 PM
There we go, ESPN.com frontpage.
 
2012-05-02 03:19:58 PM

Rising From Ashes: And ESPN is talking about the Saints again.


imageshack.us
 
2012-05-02 03:20:17 PM
From the ESPN article, it looks like they might have been waiting for a comment from Charger HQ to run with the story. Which is... a kinda odd editorial decision.
 
2012-05-02 03:20:44 PM
This is what happens when people try to live in a whale's vagina.
 
2012-05-02 03:21:07 PM

EnderWiggnz: FreakinB: muck4doo: I don't get it. Why would someone with a HOF career, loads of money, hot babes wanting him, and fame commit suicide? Us schmuck fans don't have any of that, but we're not sitting there offing ourselves.

If the cause that people are guessing is correct, then it's the same reason that people can still have anxiety and depression even when they seem to have it all: A messed up brain is a messed up brain. No amount of money, fame, etc. can fix that.

i have a deep sympathy for depressed people with regards to suicide, but somehow, i suspect that his body being in constant pain from the constant beatings it received during his career, including both concussions and other physical injuries he suffered during his play time.


I wasn't saying depression as the cause in and of itself, I was just using it as a sample of another type of brain condition that isn't going away no matter how much you have materially. When I said "cause that people are guessing" I meant the cumulative brain damage that's been a big topic recently with regard to former football players.

As for the rest of your post, I like NFL football, I'm a Giants fan, and I watch it every week. But I'm in my twenties now, and I wouldn't be at all surprised if it's vastly different, if not nonexistent, by the time I'm in my fifties.
 
2012-05-02 03:21:13 PM

SoCalSurfer: Isitoveryet: SoCalSurfer: Isitoveryet: In Oceanside & being bothered by the helicopter hovering overhead so i'm getting a kick...

no seriously, how about landing at the local air strip and drive down to his house, maybe save a bit in gas costs? maybe? huh?

is his house on the bay side or ocean side?

Oceanside has a small marina/harbor no real bay to speak of, his house must be just south of the pier (or near the pier)

huh? His house is in coronado, i was asking if it was on the san diego bay side or the side facing the pacific.

[narwhaler.com image 640x664]



Wow I need coffee, what the hell is wrong with me. His house is in oceanside, why was I thinking coronado
 
2012-05-02 03:21:50 PM
as resposted from TFD....


i was just thinking about him the other day, after Bruschi's quote about Harbaugh's criticism of the Pats' titles being tainted: "all i see when i look at my hand is 4 rings, and i know we won them the right way."

i thought of that shot of Seau and Bruschi huckin' and buckin' on the sideline after the Pats' go-ahead TD vs Giants. All hugging and smiling and shiat. i was like, "guys, the football gods see you...." and sure enough, David Tyree catches a ball with his facemask moments later. and the rest is history.

that unfortunately is how i remember Seau.


suicide.

so sad.
 
2012-05-02 03:21:52 PM

FinFangFark: Wow. Very classy ESPN, wait until your on the way out, after all commercial spots are logged.

If it's Tebow saving a kitten from a tree, you break into your programming.


Or if Bryce Harper hits a dribbler up the 3B line and gets thrown out by 10 feet.



/ESPN -constantly fellating athletes since 1979
 
2012-05-02 03:22:41 PM

extroverted_suicide: JustGetItRight: DamnYankees: GWSuperfan: Some of the local news is saying it's a suicide. IDK- Junior's a nice guy. I'm tempted to run down to the coffeeshop and see if anyone has heard anything.

I don't see how it would be a suicide if multiple shots were fired.

I've responded to an attempted suicide with multiple shots fired. She shot herself too high and at a bad angle the first time and thus only managed to break her collarbone.

Did a better job with the second round but still missed her heart and survived.

Wait, was this idiot trying to off herself by shooting herself in the CHEST?


Yep. See mine and other posts. It happens all the time. In my experience, she stands out because after failing the first time and certainly learning that gunshot wounds hurt, she shot herself again.
 
2012-05-02 03:23:35 PM
 
2012-05-02 03:23:51 PM
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R.I.P. Mark Seay
 
2012-05-02 03:24:17 PM
Wow. I'm 43 (as was Junior) and still feel like I have a lot of gas in the tank. I don't have millions of dollars and the adoration of the community either. Then again, I didn't have to get hit in the head repeatedly for those riches and adoration. Maybe going to work each day to pay the mortgage isn't so bad after all. RIP Junior.
 
2012-05-02 03:24:27 PM

SoCalSurfer: SoCalSurfer: Isitoveryet: SoCalSurfer: Isitoveryet: In Oceanside & being bothered by the helicopter hovering overhead so i'm getting a kick...

no seriously, how about landing at the local air strip and drive down to his house, maybe save a bit in gas costs? maybe? huh?

is his house on the bay side or ocean side?

Oceanside has a small marina/harbor no real bay to speak of, his house must be just south of the pier (or near the pier)

huh? His house is in coronado, i was asking if it was on the san diego bay side or the side facing the pacific.

[narwhaler.com image 640x664]


Wow I need coffee, what the hell is wrong with me. His house is in oceanside, why was I thinking coronado


he's probably the only good thing to come out of Oceanside since... well, since evar.
 
2012-05-02 03:24:56 PM
Wonder if this will impact the Vikings stadium plans..
 
2012-05-02 03:25:09 PM
Someone mentioned that he's the 8th player off that 94' AFC Champs roster to die.

Anyone avoiding work and up for putting that list together?
 
2012-05-02 03:26:09 PM
1994 was awesome, for that alone he will be missed. Rest in Peace Junior.latimesblogs.latimes.com
 
2012-05-02 03:26:19 PM

FinFangFark: Anyone avoiding work and up for putting that list together?


Already in the thread
 
2012-05-02 03:26:42 PM

Isitoveryet: he's probably the only good thing to come out of Oceanside since... well, since evar


HEY!!!

/born in Oceanside, NY
//didn't grew up there though, that's just where the hospital is
///lame humor
 
2012-05-02 03:26:51 PM
The man loved vagina. He was a regular at the clubs downtown and hit on every hole in the place. Even while married.
 
2012-05-02 03:26:57 PM
Seau's mom breaking down.
 
2012-05-02 03:27:14 PM

PowerSlacker: ESPN comment hilarity ensues.


The mods are working overtime on that one. Crazy how many of the comments are getting deleted in less than a minute.
 
2012-05-02 03:27:14 PM
Seau's mom is leaving me misty eyed. :(
 
2012-05-02 03:27:15 PM
RIP Jr Walker and the All Stars
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2012-05-02 03:27:32 PM
Did she just say drive safely??
 
2012-05-02 03:28:07 PM

EnderWiggnz:
How on earth could the NFL pass an OSHA inspection? Armored wankball should go the fark away and only be talked about with onions on our belts.


Better question how do Boxing and MMA continue to pass OSHA inspection? At least American football players wear gear designed to protect them from hits, unlike Boxing and MMA which wear protective gear so they can protect the hands of the fighter allowing them to hit more often.

Let's also not talk about Rugby and Australian rules football, which have no protective gear and the players can hit each other just as hard as in any American football game.

I'm sorry you find contact sports to be barbaric, but the world is a contact sport. So in reality they only reflect real life.

/played American football from elementary school through high school and never got more than a couple of cool scars
 
2012-05-02 03:28:09 PM

Treygreen13: JohnBigBootay: TomD9938: Whoa... that's deep.

/and prolly true


Yes. Rich or poor if you aren't in control of your mind you have nothing. Nevertheless we should continue, as a nation, defunding mental health programs. Because handouts just encourage more people to be crazy you know...

I think a lot of the time even the mental health programs are dedicated to dispensing pharmaceuticals or comforting people with religion. Whereas actual therapists can provide some comfort to people by resolving internal issues.

I think we all deal with hopelessness at times. Hard to say that Seau needed any of those above things, or which one was more appropriate.

A national dialogue about mental health would certainly be a good thing.


So much THIS.
 
2012-05-02 03:28:11 PM

Isitoveryet: SoCalSurfer: SoCalSurfer: Isitoveryet: SoCalSurfer: Isitoveryet: In Oceanside & being bothered by the helicopter hovering overhead so i'm getting a kick...

no seriously, how about landing at the local air strip and drive down to his house, maybe save a bit in gas costs? maybe? huh?

is his house on the bay side or ocean side?

Oceanside has a small marina/harbor no real bay to speak of, his house must be just south of the pier (or near the pier)

huh? His house is in coronado, i was asking if it was on the san diego bay side or the side facing the pacific.

[narwhaler.com image 640x664]


Wow I need coffee, what the hell is wrong with me. His house is in oceanside, why was I thinking coronado

he's probably the only good thing to come out of Oceanside since... well, since evar.


hah, the worst thing to come out of oceanside is all the people from LA traveling south on friday afternoons
 
2012-05-02 03:28:11 PM
Death is stalking the 1994 Chargers, where the hell is Ray Finkle?

Link
 
2012-05-02 03:28:16 PM

BunkoSquad: FinFangFark: Anyone avoiding work and up for putting that list together?

Already in the thread


Thanks kind sir. I missed it for some reason.
 
2012-05-02 03:28:39 PM

Cyberluddite: Giant Clown Shoe: [4.bp.blogspot.com image 320x320]
The natural consequence of our favorite bloodsport is often death.

/These guys die early. Sad but true.

I'm not sure I see what's "natural" about intentionally blowing your brains out with a gun.


There reporting that he shot himself in the chest... like Dave Duerson. The reason for the chest shot rather than a head shot is so the brain can be examined for damage... like Dave Duerson. In Duerson's case they found significant brain damage that is likely the cause of his degenerative condition, erratic behavior and depression.

Duerson's Brain Trauma Diagnosed

An NFL player who spends 4 years in the league has a life expectancy of 55.

NFL is killing its players

The average American male lives to be almost 75. According to the Times report, an NFL player, whose career lasts roughly four years on average, lives to be 55. The more years a player spends in the NFL, the more games and practices he survives, the quicker he dies.

cdn3.sbnation.com

Were you not entertained?
 
2012-05-02 03:28:56 PM
Well wasn't it a suicide attempt when he drove off the side of the cliff???
 
2012-05-02 03:29:21 PM

ohdoublereally: His son just showed up on scene. I can't imagine. :(

kogo.com has pretty good local coverage on their live stream.


I found a friend in a similar situation a couple years ago. The initial shock wasn't bad, but telling his dad (WW2 vet) when he showed up on the scene was a nightmare.
 
2012-05-02 03:29:25 PM
What a coincidence, a ton of EBAY sellers just happened to have uploaded a bunch of Junior Seau merchandise at the exact time this was announced.


/don't know who's worse, the people that capitalize on a death, or the morons who all of the sudden can't live without dead celebrities stuff
 
2012-05-02 03:29:43 PM
He's dead, Jim.
 
2012-05-02 03:29:52 PM

BunkoSquad: FinFangFark: Anyone avoiding work and up for putting that list together?

Already in the thread


Whoawhoawhoa! Doug Miller got struck by lightning TWICE? O_o
 
2012-05-02 03:31:05 PM

FinFangFark: Someone mentioned that he's the 8th player off that 94' AFC Champs roster to die.

Anyone avoiding work and up for putting that list together?


Link
 
2012-05-02 03:31:21 PM
8 members of that '95 (94 season) Super Bowl team have died already.
 
2012-05-02 03:31:31 PM

Captain Steroid: BunkoSquad: FinFangFark: Anyone avoiding work and up for putting that list together?

Already in the thread

Whoawhoawhoa! Doug Miller got struck by lightning TWICE? O_o


Right? After that first strike, I'd be packing my shiat up and saying "fark this, I'm getting a hotel."
 
2012-05-02 03:31:34 PM

jayhawk88: whizbangthedirtfarmer: jayhawk88: Rebelution: If this was a suicide as reported, I wonder what this will do to the concussion talks around the NFL. My thoughts go out to his family.

If concussions do turn out to be a factor somehow, it could be a tipping point. I think he was enough of a star/has enough name recognition that this will resonate with a lot of people.

Hell no. Americans love their violence. And many of the current players are of the "fark you, I got mine" mindset. Every year, players have an opportunity to donate a game check to Gridiron Greats, and what? A dozen or so of them do it?

I'm not saying it will be the death of football or anything, but I do think that we could see some major changes. We've already had some hints of kickoff-less football, and it wouldn't shock me to also see some things like restrictions on the amount of padding players can wear, more and more severe penalties for big hits, etc.

Ironically it's going to be ESPN that really decides where this conversation goes. They have the biggest platform, on any given day/week they can set the tone for sports discussion in this country...in a lot of very meaningful and not insignificant ways, how they choose to cover this is going to decide how much traction it continues to get.


And considering it's Disney owned, it can be as family friendly as you want. American style football fans (as them ferriners like to say), we're watching it go down the tubes as we speak. 15-20 years from now, soccer will take over.
 
2012-05-02 03:31:45 PM

Brubold: 4NSpy: Damn.

Always respected Junior as a player even though he was a Charger.

Well aside from the PID use which may have caused the long term effects that led to suicide, yeah. I guess we'll know more soon enough.

Anyway, RIP

/Raider fan


Two corrections. Should have been PEDs (duh). Also, I was thinking of Merriman. I have no idea if Seau used PEDs or not.
 
2012-05-02 03:32:07 PM

FinFangFark: Thanks kind sir. I missed it for some reason.


Well, this thread's moving fast, unlike the staff at ESPN.
 
2012-05-02 03:32:27 PM
ESPN confirming a suicide
 
2012-05-02 03:33:27 PM

hbk72777: What a coincidence, a ton of EBAY sellers just happened to have uploaded a bunch of Junior Seau merchandise at the exact time this was announced.


/don't know who's worse, the people that capitalize on a death, or the morons who all of the sudden can't live without dead celebrities stuff


The answer is ticket scalpers. They're the worst, they buy up all the tickets as soon as they go on sale and then up the price on craigslist, ebay etc etc

Try buying permits to hike/climb half dome when they go on sale during the spring. They cost about 2 dollars yet they're gone within minutes and immediately go on sale on craigslist for 200 bucks. It makes me feel very stabby
 
2012-05-02 03:34:21 PM

FinFangFark: Captain Steroid: BunkoSquad: FinFangFark: Anyone avoiding work and up for putting that list together?

Already in the thread

Whoawhoawhoa! Doug Miller got struck by lightning TWICE? O_o

Right? After that first strike, I'd be packing my shiat up and saying "fark this, I'm getting a hotel."


Well, hard to walk away while someone's giving you CPR.
 
2012-05-02 03:34:37 PM

Rising From Ashes: FinFangFark: Someone mentioned that he's the 8th player off that 94' AFC Champs roster to die.

Anyone avoiding work and up for putting that list together?

Link


"• In 1998, LB Doug Miller was struck by lightning while camping in Colorado. CPR was being performed on Miller when he was struck again by a second bolt."

Damn
 
2012-05-02 03:34:48 PM

hdhale: Let's also not talk about Rugby and Australian rules football, which have no protective gear and the players can hit each other just as hard as in any American football game.


Except they don't. In rugby you can't just run someone over, you can have to wrap them up and bring them down. Rugby and Aussie Rules are quite different from football no matter how much some people like to say they're alike.
 
2012-05-02 03:35:07 PM

PainfulItching: And considering it's Disney owned, it can be as family friendly as you want. American style football fans (as them ferriners like to say), we're watching it go down the tubes as we speak. 15-20 years from now, soccer will take over.


Soccer has its own CTE-related concussion risks.

Also, it still has too much grass diving.
 
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