Elandriel: What's worse is the federal appeals judge agreed with this idiot.

Its the same Judge who recently sent Obama's AG an order to defend Obama's insults to the Supreme Court. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/04/06/obama-supreme-court-health-ca re_n_1408847.html

Elandriel: Gecko Gingrich: No. No he didn't.

This is no different than opposing the mosque in NYC. They don't have to directly say "Because terrorism" for the obvious connection to be made, and thus burying the issue because of the negative connotations.

Very important word, I'm glad someone used it. Because this has been one of the Republiconservabertarian weaseling ways for years now. Complaining that people are saying they didn't say something, because the actual words weren't used by them (which is denotation).

I wonder what it would be like if the GOP actually started attracting potential candidates for office that actually didn't know how this way of communicating works. They could be approached by a constituent having problems with local mafia running a protection racket. Being told the mafioso told them that "it would be a shame if something were to happen to your store". And not knowing what that actually meant, because they wouldn't know subtext if it hit them in the face with a shovel.

That's a ridiculous premise. Because we know what they're hinting at. And what's more, we know they're well aware of what they're doing too.

No, actually, the terrorists are the ones that bomb places like planned parenthood.

The GOP: Its not terrorism when we do it

The GOP still trying to say that the war on women is a myth?

Jackson Herring: These kinds of headlines really aren't helping

This. The facts are egregious enough without misrepresenting them.

serial_crusher: Planned parenthood plays a sick scorched earth game with legitimate women's health care. "You want access to breast cancer screenings? Well too bad, because if the government tells us we can't have abortions, we're going to shut down the whole thing! That'll show 'em!"

So I can see the analogy to a terrorist organization. They threaten to withhold necessary medical care if their political goals aren't realized.
Government should pull money from Planned Parenthood and give it to somebody who only provides real health care.

lol dumb

Well it doesn't look like states are going to be happy until the federal government has to take over healthcare the way it had to take over schools to ensure equal protection.

Can we stop supporting the catholic church until we get assurances that the "faith based" money they now receive won't in any way assist their clergy with farking little boys?

that money's fungible. so even if I give money to feed the hungry, it frees up farking money for the clergy.

gilgigamesh: Gecko Gingrich: gilgigamesh: "We weren't comparing Planned Parenthood to a terrorist organization. We're just saying a law used to prevent funding a terrorist organization be used to prevent funding to Planned Parenthood, even though it is totally not a terrorist organization."

Again, not what he said.

Apparently you and I have different definitions of comparison?

You know, we can argue the nuance of Greg Abbott's statements all day long, but we're missing the bigger issue here:

Greg Abbott is a farking dick. He's basically Rick Perry in a wheelchair. He spends the majority of his time going on partisan political witchhunts to satisfy the mouth breathing retards that make up the majority of voters in this state.

Republicans (and Democrats) can fark right off with the faith based charity funding if they want to argue money is fungible and can't be separated out for various purposes.

Theaetetus: Technically, it's a correct argument, but he's still an asshole.

Not so fast. It depends on the funding sources.

I work for a non-profit and we have about 25 different funding sources, from Medicaid billing to grants to money we raise from donations. Each of these funding sources has different requirements on how it can be spent, and those requirements have been tightening steadily for years. So sometimes at the end of a fiscal year we have the odd situation where there are layoffs in one program because the grant ran out, while another program is buying an expensive color printer because there's money left and the grant allows for infrastructure improvements. Non-profits can't just shift money around from grant to grant, and grant money doesn't go into a general fund. That's why donations are important because that money can be spent anywhere the agency needs it.

Now I don't know if Planned Parenthood works the same way but I'm guessing it does, so if the government funds, say, a breast cancer screening program at Planned Parenthood, they can't turn around and funnel that money into another program. The money will have to be used for the intended purpose and Planned Parenthood will have to account for every cent.

"The Catholic Church does not provide any assurance that the tax subsidies it receives have not been used directly or indirectly to subsidize its advocacy of religion," Abbott wrote in his motion to stay the injunction. "Nor is it possible for the Catholic Church to provide this assurance."

"Money is fungible, and taxpayer subsidies -- even if 'earmarked' for nonreligious activities -- free up other resources for the Catholic Church to spend on its mission to promote religion ..."

"Americans For Prosperity does not provide any assurance that the donations it receives from foreign sources have not been used directly or indirectly to subsidize its advocacy of political issues," Abbott wrote in his motion to stay the injunction. "Nor is it possible for Americans For Prosperity to provide this assurance."

"Money is fungible, and donations from foreign sources -- even if 'earmarked' for nonpolitical activities -- free up other resources for Americans For Prosperity to spend on its mission to promote political issues..."

So it's all or nothing with this "Fungible" funding argument.

So... Lockheed Martin must divest itself of any foreign operations. Apple must pay taxes on all of the revenue it earned both here and abroad. And any political contributor can be found guilty of bribery if it turns out the benefit financially from the actions of their candidate later takes.

And the candidate too, come to think of it...

imontheinternet: If Planned Parenthood is a terrorist organization for aborting fetuses, does that mean the state of Texas is a terrorist organization for executing adults, minors, and the mentally disabled?

the US military kills innocent civilians all the time. let's de-fund them.

serial_crusher: Vodka Zombie: serial_crusher: dumb words.

For what it's worth, I did laugh at you while reading your pathetic and strange little outburst. So, you know, you have that going for you.

/Yippeee!

I really didn't expect anybody to think I meant that 100% seriously.

/But I did take it about as seriously as I do the arguments that accuse Republicans of the same thing.

Except the Republican government of Texas apparently made that claim in a court of law. They would rather end all support for poor women in need of medical care than to give Planned Parenthood any money to be used for non-abortion services, in clinics that have nothing to do with abortion, while courts determine the legality of their law.

It is ridiculus that this situation even exists. There is a huge detrimental impact on both Planned Parenthood and many residents of Texas if this law goes into effect and is then ruled unconstitutional. It should not be allowed to go into force until the court challenge is completed.

That's fine. Then I'm going to call the Republican Party a terrorist organization.

Terrorists!!1!

Enemies of the State!!1!

Corvus: Money is fungible

What so you mean that a company that has non-US investors then is "foreign money" and that them giving money to a PAC to affect elections would then be illegal? That means the whole open money gates for citzen united ruling is actually ILLEGAL for ANY corporation that has $1 from foreign investors!!!

I like the way you think.

POR FAVOR, MEXICO, TAKE TEXAS BACK!!!!

I'm done. Its time to let the south leave. Let them make their own country and deal with things the way they want them. Let the sane people form a new country up here away from these idiots.

Not letting the south succeed was the single biggest mistake this country has ever made.

I can make a significantly larger and more substantial argument that the GOP is a terrorist organization, indeed it is the largest threat to the United States today. Can I get a motion to stay the existence of the GOP?

"Money is fungible, and taxpayer subsidies -- even if 'earmarked' for nonabortion activities -- free up other resources for Planned Parenthood to spend on its mission to promote elective abortions ... (because '[m]oney is fungible,' First Amendment does not prohibit application of federal material-support statute to individuals who give money to 'humanitarian' activities performed by terrorist organizations)."

So I think he argument is twofold...

First, I think he's claiming that if he donates $5 to PP, there is no way to follow THAT particular $5 bill to make sure what it is EXACTLY spent on. Of course, he is ignoring that it is very easy to say that they get 'X' of dollars from the gov't and 'Y' of dollars from other sources, so they have to make sure that the amount of abortion services never costs more than 'Y'. Not really higher math there, buddy.

His second argument seems to be that you ARE funding abortions by providing funding to other areas and helping the part of the budget that covers abortion services to be be met.

Both are ludicrous arguments and I can't help but wonder how much progress the Right would have made in their other endeavors if they hadn't beat this dead horse into dust... Shouldn't PETA be informed at some point?

The 'terrorism' claim is just pure idiocy, what's in the water in Texas, anyway?

Dear huffpo:

Stop lying.

thanks.

And yet there are a lot of people in this country still willing to vote for these assholes. That's the real battle here. How do we make these people realize they are voting against their own interests when they vote Republican.

Di Atribe: OK, I have a valid question (maybe): so do you think that the judge is ignorant of these strict rules? Or do you think he's betting that the rest of us are ignorant of these rules? Either way, it would seem that what he's trying to do is illegal & unethical.

I don't know. Our CEO has what he calls his "bucket speech" which explains it very clearly in about 45 seconds. Each funding source is a bucket of water, and you can't take water from one bucket and place it in another bucket even the first bucket is full and the other almost empty. Like I said, when one program is buying expensive toys and another is laying off staff, it can seem confusing. That's when he trots out the bucket speech. Also, like I said, I'm not 100% sure a national organization like Planned Parenthood is exactly comparable to our local organization, but I'm certain that if they're getting federal money for a specific purpose, that money cannot be shifted around for another purpose.

If our CEO can clear it up in 45 seconds I don't see how a judge could remain ignorant of how it works.

TheShavingofOccam123: That's fine. Then I'm going to call the Republican Party a terrorist organization.


I agree. I'm just going to include all Republicans as they support the party and in turn support terrorism. So there for....

All Republicans are Terrorists!

Send them to Gitmo.