It's actually fairly common to find out that that tom that you've been trying to call up all morning with a box call is another hunter trying to call you up.

Sound shooters need to have their guns taken away.

brerrabbit: It's actually fairly common to find out that that tom that you've been trying to call up all morning with a box call is another hunter trying to call you up.

I can see that but fooling a predator? That's some damn fine calling.

brerrabbit: It's actually fairly common to find out that that tom that you've been trying to call up all morning with a box call is another hunter trying to call you up.

Sound shooters need to have their guns taken away.

That's why NYS DEC has it's "Stalking Stinks" propaganda: You don't go stalking turkeys, you call them into range.

Remember that turkeys have better color vision than deer, and thus you have to be camouflaged much better than you would when going out for deer. That means no hunter orange.

Let's say you decide to go turkey hunting, and so you get all cammied up, maybe even with a ground blind of (behind a bush, or one you make), and also put out a few realistic looking turkey decoys near your position. Guy comes along, hearing your turkey call, sees a nice looking tom (your decoys), and shoots it. Except you were also in the line of fire, but because you were very well camouflaged, he didn't see you. That's why I don't get as upset about this kind of incident, because if you are camouflaged well enough that a turkey isn't going to see you, you're probably camouflaged well enough that a person won't see you either.

It's *MUCH* easier for that kind of accident to occur when turkey hunting. That's why you don't go chasing birds. You let them come to you.

brerrabbit: Sound shooters need to have their guns taken away.

I believe the coyote was hunting by sound, too - especially since he actually bit the hunter before realizing he wasn't stalking a turkey.

Also, this is like the 3rd or 4th story I've read/seen about predators mistaking turkey callers for the real thing. The last time, I believe the hunter received head and scalp lacerations when a Bob Cat mistook him for a turkey dinner.

Turkey lurkey lee and turkey lurkey lie
Turns out this turkey was a guy

BTW, I've called coyotes in by simply kissing the back of my hand loudly. A coyote coming towards you thinking you are a potential meal looks like a Dire Wolf on steroids and growth hormone when all you are armed with is a simple wooden longbow and some wooden arrows.

dittybopper: BTW, I've called coyotes in by simply kissing the back of my hand loudly.

I've "squeaked" coyotes and bobcats up with a dog toy. And to think people spend a shiatload on electronic calls.

Dancin_In_Anson: dittybopper: BTW, I've called coyotes in by simply kissing the back of my hand loudly.

I've "squeaked" coyotes and bobcats up with a dog toy. And to think people spend a shiatload on electronic calls.

I've got a little squeaker for that, but I don't go out hunting them much. Spent a grand total of like $3 on it.

"I took a shot at it, but it was too far off by then. I turned it around for a second when I hit him in the haunch with a few pellets from my turkey load, just to say goodbye."

Too bad the coyote didn't clamp down on your balls, asshole. If it's running away, WTF are you shooting at it?

Speaker2Animals: "I took a shot at it, but it was too far off by then. I turned it around for a second when I hit him in the haunch with a few pellets from my turkey load, just to say goodbye."

Too bad the coyote didn't clamp down on your balls, asshole. If it's running away, WTF are you shooting at it?

So that they can test it's ass for rabies, maybe? Or did the thought not occur to you?

But I don't blame the coyote.

Then why'd ya shoot it, dickweed?

Maud Dib: SuperNinjaToad:

what's a haunch? and did he kill or injure the cayote or what? the 1st and 2nd sentences seem contradictory.

Nice way of saying he shot it in the ass as payback.
I'd want to whack it just to get the carcass tested, to avoid the rabies shots. A lot of rabid coyotes out there.
Texas Parks and Wildlife do a vaccine bait drop every Spring.

He probably did do it for that reason, at least subconsciously, hoping for a very lucky shot because the 'yote was pretty much out of range.

doglover: But I don't blame the coyote.

Then why'd ya shoot it, dickweed?

To try and avoid getting rabies shots?

stpauler: This pic was taken about a block away from our house in Minneapolis. There's a group (gaggle? flock? pride?) of them patrolling the neighborhood it seems. They don't like breadcrumbs or dogs. They are also not afraid of cars and will enjoy a staredown if you want to get home.

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I saw a bunch down in Chanhassen when I was driving around yesterday. I'm sure they'll be impossible to find in a few weeks when spring turkey season starts.

/don't live in MN

doglover: But I don't blame the coyote.

Then why'd ya shoot it, dickweed?

If he kills it or captures it, the ranger can test it for rabies. He might be able to avoid shelling out cash for a painful, not-so-cheap procedure.

/also it bit him
//I'd shoot it too

redmid17: If he kills it or captures it, the ranger can test it for rabies.

If you bit me, I have more of a chance of getting rabies.

The guy coulda rolled the dice on this one. CLEARLY non-rabid behavior. You've got a coyote attacking an obfuscated target making prey noises with good hunting tactics and immediately vacating the premises. No need to fire on it at all.

Tman144: sounds like he was just mad at the time and wanted revenge, but w/e.

I get mad at people on the subway all the time. A lot madder than at animals who attack me when I come to their house and pretend to be food. Can I light them up with a taser or pepper spray? Hell to the no! It's totally unethical to shoot at something that's retreating, even if it means the difference between rabies shots or no. farkin' grow up, dude. You're in the woods to kill something and eat its heart. Rub some dirt on the wound and man up.

doglover: redmid17: If he kills it or captures it, the ranger can test it for rabies.

If you bit me, I have more of a chance of getting rabies.

The guy coulda rolled the dice on this one. CLEARLY non-rabid behavior. You've got a coyote attacking an obfuscated target making prey noises with good hunting tactics and immediately vacating the premises. No need to fire on it at all.

Yes because it's a smart idea to roll the dice with your life. By the time he'd go to the hospital for rabies symptoms, treatment would be useless and he'd almost certainly die. If you want to gamble with your life after you've been bit by a wild animal, feel free to. Don't judge other people for normal, rational behavior.

doglover: redmid17: If he kills it or captures it, the ranger can test it for rabies.

If you bit me, I have more of a chance of getting rabies.

The guy coulda rolled the dice on this one. CLEARLY non-rabid behavior. You've got a coyote attacking an obfuscated target making prey noises with good hunting tactics and immediately vacating the premises. No need to fire on it at all.

Easy to say, when you aren't the one who was bit.

redmid17: Don't judge other people for normal, rational behavior.

Firing a gun full of birdshot at a defenseless animal that's far away isn't normal or rational, even if it bit you.

doglover: redmid17: Don't judge other people for normal, rational behavior.

Firing a gun full of birdshot at a defenseless animal that's far away isn't normal or rational, even if it bit you.

Standard procedure for coyote bites is to find the coyote, kill it, and test it for rabies, whether or not it was exhibiting symptoms of the disease. Rabies shots are standard for anyone who is bitten, especially if they cannot locate the individual animal. But sure, you're right, it's neither normal or rational behavior.

/maybe he's a fiscal conservative and didn't want the DNR to waste money on a search & kill operation

Savage Bacon: dittybopper: doglover: But I don't blame the coyote.

Then why'd ya shoot it, dickweed?

To try and avoid getting rabies shots?

According to him, he did it "just to say goodbye". I'm not a hunter, so I don't know if that's special hunter parlance for "attempting to collect the carcass to get it tested for rabies", but I'm gonna venture a guess that he was just pissed at being bitten.

Those two things aren't mutually exclusive.

Plus, you do need to be able to read between the lines. He's not going to be all "Hey, I'm scared shiatless about possibly having rabies!". He's going to minimize that danger in his own mind, and that's going to effect how he retells the story.

Savage Bacon: dittybopper: doglover: But I don't blame the coyote.

Then why'd ya shoot it, dickweed?

To try and avoid getting rabies shots?

According to him, he did it "just to say goodbye". I'm not a hunter, so I don't know if that's special hunter parlance for "attempting to collect the carcass to get it tested for rabies", but I'm gonna venture a guess that he was just pissed at being bitten.

Which is why his speedo should be laced with bullet ants. fark that guy. Terrible self control.

dittybopper: Plus, you do need to be able to read between the lines. He's not going to be all "Hey, I'm scared shiatless about possibly having rabies!".

Considering rabies takes MONTHS to manifest and has a 100% prevention rate with vaccination I could inject your cock with a sample of the virus and if you're sane you won't even worry about it.

doglover: dittybopper: Plus, you do need to be able to read between the lines. He's not going to be all "Hey, I'm scared shiatless about possibly having rabies!".

Considering rabies takes MONTHS to manifest and has a 100% prevention rate with vaccination I could inject your cock with a sample of the virus and if you're sane you won't even worry about it.

Rabies takes awhile to manifest, but the post-bite treatment has to be administered within 10 days of infection. Congratulations on giving someone a 1% survival chance.

Ow! That was my feelings!: . In the Denver metro area there have been multiple kids attacked by coyotes, as well as a large number of pet attacks.


I'm a little drunk as it's 1 AM and I was playing DnD with my friends and wine.

I first read this as Detroit metro area and was all like "Holy shiat, it's worse than I thought."

stpauler: This pic was taken about a block away from our house in Minneapolis. There's a group (gaggle? flock? pride?) of them patrolling the neighborhood it seems. They don't like breadcrumbs or dogs. They are also not afraid of cars and will enjoy a staredown if you want to get home.

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A group of turkeys is called a rafter iirc. Although its not on this list.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_collective_nouns_for_birds#_

There are some fun ones though. Apparently it's a gaggle of geese if they're on the ground and a skien of geese if they're flying.

/murder honey, a group of crows is called a murder