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2012-05-02 08:36:43 AM  
Bengals should be higher than the Chargers, Cowboys, and Falcons.

Eagles are fine. And no argument with #1. They deserve it.
 
2012-05-02 08:53:57 AM  
Fu*king Browns. Fu*k fu*k fu*k.
 
2012-05-02 09:22:03 AM  
I'll say it--with Baltimore still having a gaping hole at guard, and after San Francisco has brought in several players to upgrade their team, I fail to see how the Ravens leapfrog the Niners.
 
2012-05-02 09:34:02 AM  

Harv72b: I'll say it--with Baltimore still having a gaping hole at guard, and after San Francisco has brought in several players to upgrade their team, I fail to see how the Ravens leapfrog the Niners.


AFC north is going to be painful this year. I see the Ravens going 10-6 and missing the playoffs.
 
2012-05-02 09:38:27 AM  
Seattle is ridiculously low, but hey, just gives us more room to climb.

/behind the Cards is a f*cking joke
 
2012-05-02 09:48:30 AM  
You know, I'll give the Giants credit as champs because my Pack was in that same position season before last...barely got into the playoffs, won the whole thing.

But they aren't the best team in the league right now.

Still think this years SB will end up being Pats/Texans/Ravens vs Pack/Niners/Eagles

/Saints would be up there, but the players suspensions haven't been announced yet, plus the coaching suspensions are gonna hurt a tad.
 
2012-05-02 09:49:34 AM  
Being a Jet fan is my punishment for being raised a Yankee fan in Queens.


It's a known fact in these parts that Joe Namath sold his SOUL to the DEVIL in 1969 to win Super Bowl III, and so long as Joe is alive, the Jets will not make it to another one
 
2012-05-02 09:56:23 AM  

INeedAName: AFC north is going to be painful this year. I see the Ravens going 10-6 and missing the playoffs.


With the Ravens' roster having regressed from last season due to cap issues & the Steelers going through a mini-reboot, as bizarre as this sounds I think the Bengals might be the team to beat in the division.

/Still see the Ravens making it to the postseason, but my glasses might be slightly rose-hued.
 
2012-05-02 09:56:57 AM  
The Eagles move up 5 places because their GM liked the draft. Well that settles that.

The Bengals have had 2 consecutive ridiculously good drafts, made the playoffs, but somehow still find themselves behind the disaster that is the San Diego franchise.

The Giants are #1 just because it's important to continue to think that there's a good football team in the NYC market.
 
2012-05-02 09:59:00 AM  

ihatedumbpeople: Still think this years SB will end up being Pats/Texans/Ravens vs Pack/Niners/Eagles


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2012-05-02 09:59:05 AM  
I think until they step on the field and show something, the Eagles are a little too high.

The Texans lose two key defensive vets, but two rookie WRs (who would be 3&4 on the depth chart) are compensation enough to hold them steady at 6 !?
 
2012-05-02 10:01:34 AM  
The Chiefs have 1 significant need (QB) and that's good for 17th.

/Actually higher than I thought they'd get.
 
2012-05-02 10:03:34 AM  

iron_city_ap: The Texans lose two key defensive vets, but two rookie WRs (who would be 3&4 on the depth chart) are compensation enough to hold them steady at 6 !?


They also presumably get a healthy Schaub & Johnson back. Plus it's difficult to find a team to move ahead of them.
 
2012-05-02 10:05:58 AM  
The Lions will win the Superbowl this year.
 
2012-05-02 10:11:37 AM  
I don't mind being that low...

But behind the farking Falcons? Really?
 
2012-05-02 10:12:01 AM  

highbrow45: The Lions will win the Superbowl this year.


Not with the secondary they have.
 
2012-05-02 10:13:58 AM  

TheBitterest: The Giants are #1 just because it's important to continue to think that there's a good football team in the NYC market.


Yeah, if the Giants weren't #1 in pointless power rankings, the NFL would crumble and fan support would dwindle down to nothing.
 
2012-05-02 10:16:01 AM  
can we wait till football season to start talking about football?
 
2012-05-02 10:17:40 AM  

TheBitterest: The Eagles move up 5 places because their GM liked the draft. Well that settles that.

The Bengals have had 2 consecutive ridiculously good drafts, made the playoffs, but somehow still find themselves behind the disaster that is the San Diego franchise.

The Giants are #1 just because it's important to continue to think that there's a good football team in the NYC market.


ESPN is ESPN expecting their commentary to make sense, or even be so much as tangentially relevant, seems to court disappointment.

The Bengals play in a meatgrinder of a division. Particularly as compared to the NFC East, home of the Chargers East Eagles, the December to January comedy troupe that is the Cowboys, the Snyder laden Redskins, and the world champs who very nearly got 50 put on them in their own house by the Seahawks, before losing to the Redskins. Twice.

But, the Giants did win the last game, they should be #1 until someone demonstrates they're not.

/Just sayin'
 
2012-05-02 10:21:01 AM  
Gotta love the ESPN hate for the Raiders. It's like death and taxes to us. We're the lowest ranked 8-8 team from last year at #26. Below the train wreck Jets at #20, the Cardinals #19, the Chargers #15, the Cowboys #14, the Bears #11, Broncos #10, and Eagles #7.

My prediction is that we'll be better than the Jets, Cards, and Cowboys. We'll split games with the Charges and Broncos. I see only the Eagles and maybe the Bears improving more than us this year.
 
2012-05-02 10:24:49 AM  
Tickle Mittens:But, the Giants did win the last game, they should be #1 until someone demonstrates they're not.

/Just sayin'


Yeah I agree mostly. I think I'm still annoyed with how many have annointed the Giants as some truly great football team. If the GIants missed the playoffs this year, I doubt many outside of NY would really be surprised.
 
2012-05-02 10:24:54 AM  

highbrow45: The Lions will win the Superbowl this year.


The Lions haven't won a playoff game in 20 years. You might want to temper your expectations a tad.
 
2012-05-02 10:30:37 AM  

highbrow45: The Lions will win the Superbowl this year.


I'm going to go out on a limb here with a bold prediction: The Detroit Lions will never win a Super Bowl.

Never. Not for as long as the National Football League exists, even if the Mayans were wrong and it goes on for hundreds of years. Houston, Jacksonville, and yes, even the Browns will all win Super Bowls. Detroit never will. The Cardinals will win one. Hell, the Chicago Cubs might even switch sports and win a Super Bowl, but not the Detroit Lions, not ever.

I have a gut feeling on this.
 
2012-05-02 10:30:39 AM  

Jubeebee: The Lions haven't won a playoff game in 20 years. You might want to temper your expectations a tad.


This is the year Lovie and Cutler get it done though. The entire defense stays healthy and Matt Forte stays happy. It's all sunshine and rainbows in Chicago this year.
 
2012-05-02 10:32:25 AM  

TheBitterest: Yeah I agree mostly. I think I'm still annoyed with how many have annointed the Giants as some truly great football team. If the GIants missed the playoffs this year, I doubt many outside of NY would really be surprised.


Not sure even NYers would be surprised. They've missed the playoffs 2 of the last 3 years.

Eli Manning's career as QB for the Giants:

2 Super Bowl wins
3x first-round loss
3x failed to make playoffs

/elite!
 
2012-05-02 10:34:58 AM  

IAmRight: Eli Manning's career as QB for the Giants:

2 Super Bowl wins
3x first-round loss
3x failed to make playoffs

/elite!


But, but...he has never lost a Super Bowl! If the rest of the team would just play better to get him to more of them, he'd run out of fingers and become the first quarterback ever fitted for a championship toe ring!
 
2012-05-02 10:37:56 AM  

IAmRight: Eli Manning's career as QB for the Giants:

2 Super Bowl wins


I'm pretty happy about that part. The "elite" conversation bores me, because it doesn't matter if ESPN's panel of talking heads or fans of the other 31 teams think he is.
 
2012-05-02 10:41:06 AM  

Yanks_RSJ: The "elite" conversation bores me


It bores me too. Because who gives a shiat whether or not random internet people or sportswriters grant someone an imaginary indefinable title?
 
2012-05-02 10:42:13 AM  

Yanks_RSJ: I'm pretty happy about that part. The "elite" conversation bores me, because it doesn't matter if ESPN's panel of talking heads or fans of the other 31 teams think he is.


Yeah, I realized I can't make too much fun since my favorite QB is Aaron Rodgers and at this point he has:

1 Super Bowl win
2x first-round loss
1x failed to make playoffs

...though Manning averages 10.3 points scored in his playoff losses, while Rodgers averages 32.5 points in his playoff losses. F*cking "defense."
 
2012-05-02 10:43:16 AM  

Harv72b: INeedAName: AFC north is going to be painful this year. I see the Ravens going 10-6 and missing the playoffs.

With the Ravens' roster having regressed from last season due to cap issues & the Steelers going through a mini-reboot, as bizarre as this sounds I think the Bengals might be the team to beat in the division.

/Still see the Ravens making it to the postseason, but my glasses might be slightly rose purple-hued.


FTFY. ;)

I'm not sure I necessarily agree that the Bengals are the team to beat (in my not-so-objective opinion the Ravens & Steelers are still the ones in that category, at least for now), but I do think they're going to be dangerous this year, especially for teams who underestimate them. They did extremely well last year, and with more weapons + Dalton/Green having another year to gel + no lockout, I think they're only going to get better. (Dammitsomuch.) :P

I think the Ravens are going to be fine, just like always. As for the Steelers, I'm cautiously optimistic - as you said, there are a lot of new pieces this year. I really think it all depends on how quickly things come together for them. If everyone can get on the same page with the new OC/playbook fairly soon, and if DeCastro et al are able to contribute from the start, I can see things going pretty well. Of course, there will almost certainly be rough spots and difficult transitions, so I don't anticipate them winning the Super Bowl this year (feel free to prove me wrong, though, guys! ;)), but I still think they'll do reasonably well.

/also biased, so take my "analysis" with a grain of salt :)
 
2012-05-02 10:48:22 AM  

IAmRight: though Manning averages 10.3 points scored in his playoff losses, while Rodgers averages 32.5 points in his playoff losses. F*cking "defense."


Well, there really wasn't a lick of defense played in Rodgers' first playoff loss by either team.
 
2012-05-02 10:49:22 AM  

becksellent: I think the Ravens are going to be fine, just like always. As for the Steelers, I'm cautiously optimistic - as you said, there are a lot of new pieces this year. I really think it all depends on how quickly things come together for them. If everyone can get on the same page with the new OC/playbook fairly soon, and if DeCastro et al are able to contribute from the start, I can see things going pretty well. Of course, there will almost certainly be rough spots and difficult transitions, so I don't anticipate them winning the Super Bowl this year (feel free to prove me wrong, though, guys! ;)), but I still think they'll do reasonably well.


I think the floor for the Steelers would be 8-8 this year, but they'll likely put together 9-10 wins at the least. Similar numbers for the Ravens.

The Bengals have a lower floor but higher ceiling, depending on how Dalton, Green, and their rookies progress. They could have yet another down year following a winning season & go 4-12. Or Dalton & the offense could improve while the defense continues to play well, and they go 14-2 or some such lunacy.

FWIW, I think the Browns raised their floor to 2 wins after a pretty solid draft. But the ceiling is 6-10.

/You're a Steelers fan, I take everything you say with a grain of salt. :p
 
2012-05-02 10:50:25 AM  

becksellent: As for the Steelers, I'm cautiously optimistic


That's how I feel every year. I prefer to be surprised on the upside. By game time I convince myself the other team will win, pretty much every week.

At any rate I was very happy with the draft. I'd loved to have seen another corner or DE but I'm ecstatic that we picked up some quality beef for the offensive line. Line play has been horrible - even in the 2010 SB win year they weren't very good up front.
 
2012-05-02 10:51:10 AM  

becksellent: I think the Ravens are going to be fine, just like always. As for the Steelers, I'm cautiously optimistic - as you said, there are a lot of new pieces this year. I really think it all depends on how quickly things come together for them. If everyone can get on the same page with the new OC/playbook fairly soon, and if DeCastro et al are able to contribute from the start, I can see things going pretty well. Of course, there will almost certainly be rough spots and difficult transitions, so I don't anticipate them winning the Super Bowl this year (feel free to prove me wrong, though, guys! ;)), but I still think they'll do reasonably well.

/also biased, so take my "analysis" with a grain of salt :)


You don't have to worry about the Ravens. They still need a QB. DeCastro is going to be a good player. I liked him before the draft and thought he seemed like the type of guy the Steelers would have on their line...of course that made it worse when the Lions bypassed him and Pittsburgh snatched him up right away.
 
2012-05-02 10:52:53 AM  

JohnBigBootay: I'm ecstatic that we picked up some quality beef for the offensive line. Line play has been horrible - even in the 2010 SB win year they weren't very good up front.


The blocking for Roethlisberger may finally be as good on the field as it is in night clubs!

/Couldn't resist, etc.
 
2012-05-02 10:53:04 AM  

highbrow45: The Lions will win the Superbowl this year.


As a 49ers fan,I beg to differ.

/I'm also cautiously optimistic about Smith
 
2012-05-02 10:54:44 AM  

TheBitterest: You don't have to worry about the Ravens.


I always worry about the Ravens. fark. The more I think about it, the damn AFC North is gonna be a bloodbath this year. Damn tough division. I mean it usually is, but it feels like it's gotten worse lately.
 
2012-05-02 10:55:54 AM  

Yanks_RSJ: Well, there really wasn't a lick of defense played in Rodgers' first playoff loss by either team.


Arizona's was okay when they were allowed to go helmet-to-helmet and grab facemasks with no penalties starting in OT =P

Giants just had the best run of fumble luck I think I've ever seen in the playoffs last year, recovering what, 10 consecutive fumbles (if I include, say, the Jennings fumble that was called back even though it really was a fumble and the Cobb one that was called back because it wasn't actually a fumble)? That's crazy.
 
2012-05-02 10:56:42 AM  

Harv72b: The blocking for Roethlisberger may finally be as good on the field as it is in night clubs!


there was no blitz on at the bathroom door - if there had been they'd have gotten past them easily
 
2012-05-02 10:57:01 AM  

ShadowLAnCeR: highbrow45: The Lions will win the Superbowl this year.

As a 49ers fan,I beg to differ.

/I'm also cautiously optimistic about Smith


Things might be a little different this year playing a 1st place schedule and facing improved opponents within your conference. Might not be the cakewalk it was last year. And we'll see if Smith can build on what he did in the playoffs. I think it'll be feast or famine for him.

/LookingForwardToWeek2
 
2012-05-02 10:57:10 AM  

iron_city_ap: I think until they step on the field and show something, the Eagles are a little too high.

The Texans lose two key defensive vets, but two rookie WRs (who would be 3&4 on the depth chart) are compensation enough to hold them steady at 6 !?


Mario played less than 5 games; Granted, he's was good in those games and it would have been wonderful to see him fully acclimated to Wade's system, but the #1 D in the NFL for most of the year was made without him.

Ryans, while a leader in the locker room, was also injured for alot of the season and quite simply doesn't fit the system, He's a 4-3 ILB, and only gets on the field as an ILB when they run a pure 3-4. Especially with how much Wade uses what amounts to a 4-2-5, he simply doesn't get on the field enough to justify his contract and quite frankly even without him, I believe Houston has the best front 7 in the league.

While I think they didn't need to take Posey as early as they did, WR was the only need that they had that wasn't filling depth (like OL, DT). While losing 2 OL starters sucks, the two guys behind them both started at various points before this and the draft picks should pan out. My only concern is if the competition at corner can push Kareem enough that the Jason Allen loss won't be too tough to overcome
 
2012-05-02 10:57:13 AM  

JohnBigBootay: TheBitterest: You don't have to worry about the Ravens.

I always worry about the Ravens. fark. The more I think about it, the damn AFC North is gonna be a bloodbath this year. Damn tough division. I mean it usually is, but it feels like it's gotten worse lately.


Fortunately the other divisions all suck so three teams could make the playoffs.

/f*ckin' weak-ass AFC
 
2012-05-02 10:58:28 AM  

TheBitterest: You don't have to worry about the Ravens. They still need a QB.


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2012-05-02 10:59:04 AM  

Harv72b: TheBitterest: You don't have to worry about the Ravens. They still need a QB.

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I don't see a unibrow on that thing.
 
2012-05-02 10:59:06 AM  
TheBitterest
Things might be a little different this year playing a 1st place schedule and facing improved opponents within your conference. Might not be the cakewalk it was last year. And we'll see if Smith can build on what he did in the playoffs. I think it'll be feast or famine for him.

/LookingForwardToWeek2

Word, brother.
 
2012-05-02 10:59:54 AM  

IAmRight: Harv72b: TheBitterest: You don't have to worry about the Ravens. They still need a QB.

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I don't see a unibrow on that thing.


Turn it upside down?
 
2012-05-02 11:00:20 AM  

pickle65: The Chiefs have 1 significant need (QB) and that's good for 17th.

/Actually higher than I thought they'd get.


I'm still pissed that we were supposed to address our issue at QB and nothing at all has been done.
 
2012-05-02 11:01:03 AM  

Harv72b: I think the floor for the Steelers would be 8-8 this year, but they'll likely put together 9-10 wins at the least.

/You're a Steelers fan, I take everything you say with a grain of salt. :p


That's about what I'm thinking, and I hope you're right. DO NOT WANT a losing record. ;) (I guess a lot of people feel this way, but you know us stereotypical spoiled brat Steelers fans fully expect our team to have a winning record AND make the playoffs every year, lol...hell, going one-and-done like last year was a pretty big disappointment. :P) Here's hoping we don't get Tebowed* again, haha.

*and/or Manning'd (either one), swept by the Ravens (or anybody else), etc., etc. ;)

/Likewise. :D
 
2012-05-02 11:01:29 AM  

IAmRight: Harv72b: TheBitterest: You don't have to worry about the Ravens. They still need a QB.

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I don't see a unibrow on that thing.


I lol'd. I'm such a bad Ravens fan.
 
2012-05-02 11:08:03 AM  

becksellent: That's about what I'm thinking, and I hope you're right. DO NOT WANT a losing record. ;) (I guess a lot of people feel this way, but you know us stereotypical spoiled brat Steelers fans fully expect our team to have a winning record AND make the playoffs every year, lol...hell, going one-and-done like last year was a pretty big disappointment. :P)


It's remarkable how many similarities Pittsburgh & Baltimore sports have. We both still support epic fail baseball teams for some reason, we're both spoiled rotten by near-continuous success during the football season (insert snarky Pittsburgh comment about winning Super Bowls here), and the structures & personnel emphasis of said football teams have been remarkably similar for the past decade+. I mean, I can admit that the Steelers have us beat when it comes to passing, but we have the better running game & both teams' bread & butter are the defenses, which both teams maintain through excellent drafting & player development. Neither city has an NBA team and neither city is all that bothered about it.

In short, I can totally see why we'd hate each other.
 
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