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2012-05-02 01:28:40 AM

I agree with you: Obama's Amerika for sure.

clicky and past this for more of what Obama is taking away from us.

http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=7SGWH3kirzg&vq=medium


Welcome to Rupert Murdoch's Amerika.
 
2012-05-02 01:33:41 AM
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2012-05-02 01:42:22 AM
Did they give him a very sternly worded letter?
 
2012-05-02 01:49:50 AM
I like my women like I like my scotch: 14 years old and mixed with coke...

/the hardest part of being a pedophile..?
//fitting in
 
2012-05-02 02:02:00 AM
Is this the thread where everyone all gung-ho about voting rights for felonies under the logic that "time served = 100% free man and any different treatment = slavery is going to demand this pedophile be immediately released and apologized to for the regular check ups after his time was served?

I mean, we had people saying probation, criminal records, etc all were immoral and unjust...
 
2012-05-02 02:04:01 AM
Really, his name is Younger? You can't even make this shiat up.
 
2012-05-02 02:19:41 AM

Smackledorfer: Is this the thread where everyone all gung-ho about voting rights for felonies under the logic that "time served = 100% free man and any different treatment = slavery is going to demand this pedophile be immediately released and apologized to for the regular check ups after his time was served?

I mean, we had people saying probation, criminal records, etc all were immoral and unjust...


Yes. I mean, no. Um... What was the question again?
 
2012-05-02 02:39:19 AM

ArcadianRefugee: rocketpants: What about the girl, subby?

You keep girls in a box under the bed, not in a cabinet.


Get out of my head!!
 
2012-05-02 02:45:32 AM
Chemical castration.
 
2012-05-02 02:47:59 AM
This is bad news... For Catholic Priests.
 
2012-05-02 02:50:16 AM
OK, I'm gonna go out on a liberal limb here: the offender is only 23 himself. He was even younger when he committed other crimes. I know it's a stereotyped response, but can't we assume he's just a few years past being abused himself?
It seems to me he's not beyond rehabilitation, if his offenses have only involved "accidental" bad touching, as opposed to a predatory attack. (Of course, sadly I have to recognize that devious interference in the life of a 12-year-old is a strong argument against my bleeding-heartness.)
 
2012-05-02 02:52:08 AM
If they made the children less sexy, this sort of thing wouldn't be a problem.
 
2012-05-02 02:52:46 AM
So this guy's a republican? LOLOL

I just had to.
 
2012-05-02 02:59:17 AM

Huck And Molly Ziegler: OK, I'm gonna go out on a liberal limb here: the offender is only 23 himself. He was even younger when he committed other crimes. I know it's a stereotyped response, but can't we assume he's just a few years past being abused himself?
It seems to me he's not beyond rehabilitation, if his offenses have only involved "accidental" bad touching, as opposed to a predatory attack. (Of course, sadly I have to recognize that devious interference in the life of a 12-year-old is a strong argument against my bleeding-heartness.)


Somehow I doubt it was "accidental" when he was also busted for kiddie porn and then had another kid locked in a cupboard, fa chrissake. If this was a first offense and it was questionable then you might have a point, but this is number four. It's time to force-feed this asswipe his own balls.
 
2012-05-02 03:11:49 AM

Durendal: Huck And Molly Ziegler: OK, I'm gonna go out on a liberal limb here: the offender is only 23 himself. He was even younger when he committed other crimes. I know it's a stereotyped response, but can't we assume he's just a few years past being abused himself?
It seems to me he's not beyond rehabilitation, if his offenses have only involved "accidental" bad touching, as opposed to a predatory attack. (Of course, sadly I have to recognize that devious interference in the life of a 12-year-old is a strong argument against my bleeding-heartness.)

Somehow I doubt it was "accidental" when he was also busted for kiddie porn and then had another kid locked in a cupboard, fa chrissake. If this was a first offense and it was questionable then you might have a point, but this is number four. It's time to force-feed this asswipe his own balls.


You know, there IS the possibility that he was just watching after this kid innocently with no sexual intent but when he realized there was an officer at the door he panicked and told the kid to hide and please please lie about how long he'd been there.

I'm not saying that WAS the case, just that it's possible. A normal person wouldn't do that just because a kid was in the house, but a normal person wouldn't be in a position where simply having a 12 yr old in the house could seriously land you in jail or at least complicate your life, even for years, if found there by an officer. Even in this case of hypothetical innocence, you could easily say "yeah but if that danger was there I would never have a 12 yr old in the house, which is what the law asked" but maybe he's just not a smart man. Stupid yes, but being an idiot and molesting a child are different crimes.
 
2012-05-02 03:13:59 AM
The law is fu(king retarded.
 
2012-05-02 03:16:16 AM
Younger fled, later sending text messages back to the boy, telling him: 'Run', and, 'Say you have only been for ten minutes.'

That's the little known "10 minute rule" where you get to keep a 12 year old boy in your closet for up to that before suffering any penalties.
 
2012-05-02 04:46:50 AM

BronyMedic: wildcardjack: Okay, now that I've got that out of the way... Shouldn't repeat pedophiles automatically qualify for frequent therapy sessions and inspections.

Personally, I think they should all get a bullet in the brain pain after being convicted the first time.

There is no curing a pedophile. And there is no logical comparison with them to homosexuals.


Dude, haven't you ever seen "The Life of David Gale"? I think you're putting a lot of faith in the accuracy of the American (or British. or ANY) judicial system. Bullet in the brain for a one-time conviction? That's a little... I don't know... reactionary. And brutal. Methinks someone could be a little "touchy" about this subject? (Please, see a therapist if so. Immediately.)

Give them ONE (1) chance with intensive therapy to follow. Then I condone electroshock (for research purposes). If that doesn't work.... lock 'em up in solitary forever.
 
2012-05-02 05:26:47 AM
it's weird that the UK thinks compassion can cure pedophilia.
it's not like if you get this kind of criminal a decent job and has hope and he won't want to stick his cock in 8 year old boys anymore.
 
2012-05-02 05:33:48 AM

Oznog: Durendal: Huck And Molly Ziegler: OK, I'm gonna go out on a liberal limb here: the offender is only 23 himself. He was even younger when he committed other crimes. I know it's a stereotyped response, but can't we assume he's just a few years past being abused himself?
It seems to me he's not beyond rehabilitation, if his offenses have only involved "accidental" bad touching, as opposed to a predatory attack. (Of course, sadly I have to recognize that devious interference in the life of a 12-year-old is a strong argument against my bleeding-heartness.)

Somehow I doubt it was "accidental" when he was also busted for kiddie porn and then had another kid locked in a cupboard, fa chrissake. If this was a first offense and it was questionable then you might have a point, but this is number four. It's time to force-feed this asswipe his own balls.

You know, there IS the possibility that he was just watching after this kid innocently with no sexual intent but when he realized there was an officer at the door he panicked and told the kid to hide and please please lie about how long he'd been there.

I'm not saying that WAS the case, just that it's possible. A normal person wouldn't do that just because a kid was in the house, but a normal person wouldn't be in a position where simply having a 12 yr old in the house could seriously land you in jail or at least complicate your life, even for years, if found there by an officer. Even in this case of hypothetical innocence, you could easily say "yeah but if that danger was there I would never have a 12 yr old in the house, which is what the law asked" but maybe he's just not a smart man. Stupid yes, but being an idiot and molesting a child are different crimes.


So he'd had the kid there off and on for quite a long time when it could get him into tons of trouble and LOCKED him in a cupboard. Yeah, I'm sure he risked everything just for a bit of companionship from a 12 year old boy when he'd previously been busted for downloading illegal porn of such kids and had already groped two of them.

If he had been so innocent then he damned well wouldn't have let the kid into his home in the first place, much less for the amount of time that he had while lying to the kid's parents.
 
2012-05-02 06:08:56 AM

cman: anfrind: cman: He has been convicted three separate times of sex offenses. Why is this monster not in jail for life?

How many more little boys does this monster get to have his way with until you Liberals realize that rehabilitation of him wont work?

4/10, you started with a good point, but then you just HAD to go and ruin it by blaming it all on "you Liberals".

American liberals are not this idiotic. British Liberals, however, is a different story


Hey - if it were up to "conservatives" child molesting wouldn't even be illegal, any more than making them work in mines or factories all day - so it kind of evens out. And before you squawk - YOU started this idiotic line of conversation - so don't complain.
 
2012-05-02 07:58:29 AM

Evenbiggerknickers: Perhaps Peter File should move to America.



A peter file?
ocw.mit.edu
You know, that might not be a bad idea. It would solve many problems. What country uses the peter file on pedos?
 
2012-05-02 08:05:36 AM
You know you're getting old when someone 3 years younger than you is legally classed as a pedophile:P
 
2012-05-02 08:10:21 AM

BronyMedic: Personally, I think they should all get a bullet in the brain pain after being convicted the first time.

There is no curing a pedophile.


If that was the case, the recidivism rate should be nearly 100%. In truth, the probability of re-offend for pedophiles isn't that different than other crimes. In which case, we should put a bullet in the brain of all criminals using that logic.
 
2012-05-02 08:18:28 AM

Ray_Peranus: I like my women like I like my scotch: 14 years old and mixed with coke...

/the hardest part of being a pedophile..?
//fitting in


What's the best thing about having sex with an 8 year old in the tub?
If you slick her hair back, she looks like she's 7.

What did one pedophile say to the other?
Will you trade me two 5s for a 10?
 
2012-05-02 08:28:15 AM

Luneward: cman: He has been convicted three separate times of sex offenses. Why is this monster not in jail for life?

How many more little boys does this monster get to have his way with until you Liberals realize that rehabilitation of him wont work?

Let's just ignore the fact that it doesn't mention what the other three offenses are... here in the US exposing yourself is a sexual offense.


Well, sure. Except for the part where it says exactly what his other three offenses are:

Two of his previous offences were for sexual assaults on boys aged under 13 and the third was for downloading indecent images of mainly young boys, for which he received a 21-month custodial sentence at Teesside Crown Court, in January 2009.
 
2012-05-02 08:32:53 AM

Gwyrddu: BronyMedic: Personally, I think they should all get a bullet in the brain pain after being convicted the first time.

There is no curing a pedophile.

If that was the case, the recidivism rate should be nearly 100%. In truth, the probability of re-offend for pedophiles isn't that different than other crimes. In which case, we should put a bullet in the brain of all criminals using that logic.


That's a program we can all get behind.
 
2012-05-02 08:36:13 AM

Nixer: You know you're getting old when someone 3 years younger than you is legally classed as a pedophile:P


Pedophilia is a medical diagnosis, not a legal classification. It's not illegal to be a pedophile, only a child molester.

And wtf? 23% of sexual assault offenders were under the 18 as of July 2000 (NCJ 182990, USDOJ).
 
2012-05-02 08:39:43 AM
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Did the boy have nice muscley arms? Hmmmmm.
 
2012-05-02 08:47:57 AM
I would like to point out to the trolls that in the very liberal state of Washington, this young man would now be spending the rest of his life in PITA, our three strike prison system.
 
2012-05-02 08:57:31 AM

madgordy: I would like to point out to the trolls that in the very liberal state of Washington, this young man would now be spending the rest of his life in PITA, our three strike prison system.



Maybe. But the question is this: if he was sentenced to "Live Without The Possibility of Parole" - would some Lib still set him free on weekends? You know, to build his self esteem and stuff.

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And that's not trolling. It's thread jacking. Get your knee-jerk reactions straight.
 
2012-05-02 09:03:29 AM

cyberspacedout: Really, his name is Younger? You can't even make this shiat up.


Came here to say this.
 
2012-05-02 09:05:00 AM

BronyMedic: There is no curing a pedophile. And there is no logical comparison with them to homosexuals.


If you would use the correct terminology, you'd be right.

There is very much a logical comparison between pedophiles and homosexuals. There is, however, a vast difference between (for lack of a better term) practicing pedophiles (known as "child molesters") and practicing homosexuals. See, in the first comparison, both simply have an interest in X; that's not illegal. In the latter case, one is taking advantage of children, the other not.

Also, no true that "there is no curing them" (by which I mean "they will commit their crimes again"). See NCJ 198281 (USDOJ). Rearrest rates for those release at 18-24 years old is a horrifying 60%. For those 45 and older, it's 24%. Likewise, there is a slight decrease in recidivism for those incarcerated for longer periods.

Rearrest rates for child molesters for any type of crime is ~40% within 3 years, half (20%) of which were for "public-order" offenses; only 5% were rearrested for a sex offense.

Only half those arrested are actually convicted, and only half that number returned to prison.
 
2012-05-02 09:08:55 AM

Little.Alex: madgordy: I would like to point out to the trolls that in the very liberal state of Washington, this young man would now be spending the rest of his life in PITA, our three strike prison system.


Maybe. But the question is this: if he was sentenced to "Live Without The Possibility of Parole" - would some Lib still set him free on weekends? You know, to build his self esteem and stuff.



Life
 
2012-05-02 09:31:47 AM

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//oblig


In America, we say "pedophile".
 
2012-05-02 09:44:44 AM
Shot on sight.

That's all.
 
2012-05-02 09:46:37 AM
Was the home made of gingerbread?
 
2012-05-02 10:03:55 AM
if the dude is only 22 and has been CAUGHT three seperate times... what do you think is going to happen when he's 60 and actually a dirty old man?

This makes 4 times he's a convicted "Paedo" (hilarious english spelling btw)

I don't know how prisons are over there in England, but he needs to be inside of one, forever and ever. 50 years of being raped and beaten up sound exactly like what this man needs.
 
2012-05-02 10:07:11 AM

cyberspacedout: Really, his name is Younger? You can't even make this shiat up.


Came in for this- can't believe it took you guys so long...
 
2012-05-02 10:31:33 AM
Normally I'm not for putting someone in a lifetime lockdown program... but at 23 this guy clearly has a problem that removal from society -or if he had money moving to south asia- can solve.
 
2012-05-02 10:42:48 AM

Smackledorfer: Is this the thread where everyone all gung-ho about voting rights for felonies under the logic that "time served = 100% free man and any different treatment = slavery is going to demand this pedophile be immediately released and apologized to for the regular check ups after his time was served?

I mean, we had people saying probation, criminal records, etc all were immoral and unjust...


If you mean to put someone away for life, then man up and put them away for life. Anything else is bullshiat.
 
2012-05-02 10:43:41 AM

cman: He has been convicted three separate times of sex offenses. Why is this monster not in jail for life?

How many more little boys does this monster get to have his way with until you Liberals realize that rehabilitation of him wont work?


Liberals? It's usually the conservatives who are like "oh, but he's found Jesus, so he'll be fine now!".
 
2012-05-02 10:49:52 AM

JRoo: AssAsInAssassin: Welcome to Obama's Amerika.

Can't read very well, can you?


They don't concentrate on that in Troll School. Mainly it's how to count to potato, vote Republican and shop a Walmart.
 
2012-05-02 11:10:22 AM

thegod082: The important thing to note here, I believe, is subby's complete failure to use hyphens correctly.


That's a sweet ass-post.
 
2012-05-02 11:12:36 AM
You know who else was put in a cupboard.
4.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-05-02 11:15:56 AM
It's what the NRA flyer said: "Guns should be kept away from small children, so please lock them in a cabinet."
Did I get that wrong? Again?
 
2012-05-02 11:22:13 AM
remeber pedophiles, never be caught with a dead girl or live boy
 
2012-05-02 11:52:47 AM
Creative use of hyphens, +1.
 
2012-05-02 12:09:24 PM

ArcadianRefugee: BronyMedic: There is no curing a pedophile. And there is no logical comparison with them to homosexuals.

If you would use the correct terminology, you'd be right.

There is very much a logical comparison between pedophiles and homosexuals. There is, however, a vast difference between (for lack of a better term) practicing pedophiles (known as "child molesters") and practicing homosexuals. See, in the first comparison, both simply have an interest in X; that's not illegal. In the latter case, one is taking advantage of children, the other not.

Also, no true that "there is no curing them" (by which I mean "they will commit their crimes again"). See NCJ 198281 (USDOJ). Rearrest rates for those release at 18-24 years old is a horrifying 60%. For those 45 and older, it's 24%. Likewise, there is a slight decrease in recidivism for those incarcerated for longer periods.

Rearrest rates for child molesters for any type of crime is ~40% within 3 years, half (20%) of which were for "public-order" offenses; only 5% were rearrested for a sex offense.

Only half those arrested are actually convicted, and only half that number returned to prison.


HOW DARE YOU IMPLY THAT MY EMOTIONALLY-CHARGED IGNORANCE IS NOT JUST AS GOOD AS YOUR KNOWLEDGE? I SHOULD PUT YOU ON IGNORE FOR SUGGESTING SUCH A THING!!!1!

/knows more than a few people who, unfortunately, have that exact thought process
 
2012-05-02 02:12:43 PM

Gwyrddu: BronyMedic: Personally, I think they should all get a bullet in the brain pain after being convicted the first time.

There is no curing a pedophile.

If that was the case, the recidivism rate should be nearly 100%. In truth, the probability of re-offend for pedophiles isn't that different than other crimes. In which case, we should put a bullet in the brain of all criminals using that logic.



not true.
recidivism rates for people convicted of sex crimes is low, but most of those people committed crimes of opportunity (if not for stupid shiat that possibly shouldn't even be a sex crime ).

recidivism rates for pedophiles are very high.

"Estimates of recidivism vary because studies define this term in different ways. One review found recidivism rates of 10% to 50% among pedophiles previously convicted of sexual abuse, although this could include anything from an arrest for any offense to reconviction on a crime against a child. One long-term study of previously convicted pedophiles (with an average follow-up of 25 years) found that one-fourth of heterosexual pedophiles and one-half of homosexual or bisexual pedophiles went on to commit another sexual offense against children.

When confronted about sexual abuse, convicted pedophiles often rationalize their actions, such as insisting that a victimized child acted seductively or enjoyed the encounter. These rationalizations may reflect an inability to empathize with the child, which could be part of a co-occurring antisocial or narcissistic personality disorder."


http://www.health.harvard.edu/newsletters/Harvard_Mental_Health_Lett er /2010/July/pessimism-about-pedophilia

additionally because of the nature of the crime and class of victims it has to be one of the easier crimes to keep a secret.

moreover the harm done to society when a small child is made a sex slave is significantly higher than most other criminals. it is hard for me to conclude that a hot check writer, shoplifter, and a guy who rapes children all need to have the same resources devoted to ensuring they don't reoffend.
 
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