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2012-05-02 01:29:05 AM

strapp3r: hmmm, this preacher is a serious...

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What a cute puppy!!!!

*goes to pet puppy*

...

waaaiiit a minute.....
 
2012-05-02 01:29:09 AM
The idealization of manliness that these weirdos keep advocating is oddly homoerotic.

And it's in no way antithetical to homosexuality. There are plenty of bears, leatherdaddies, and gaybros out there. They can like sports, musclecars, working with powertools, and farking other dudes.

Whenever people start acting like homosexuality has any fixed tie to anything other than sexual behavior, I have to wonder if they are basing that on anything other than TV, movies, and popular stereotypes.
 
2012-05-02 01:29:44 AM
i pity that pastor. his childhood must have been a horror to turn out so twisted and full of hate. obviously he has lived a very sheltered life and chose to wear blinders instead of becoming a well rounded and enlightened individual.

after that sermon his house of worship will be attended by a flock that is in serious need of intense help. very sad.

i'm confident more than one person lost their faith that day. if there is a heaven that pastor will be responsible for the souls he sent down the wrong path. shame on him.
 
2012-05-02 01:30:57 AM
"childhood fantasies" he says


Hmmm. Paging Dr Freud.
 
2012-05-02 01:31:10 AM

GhostFish: The idealization of manliness that these weirdos keep advocating is oddly homoerotic.

And it's in no way antithetical to homosexuality. There are plenty of bears, leatherdaddies, and gaybros out there. They can like sports, musclecars, working with powertools, and farking other dudes.

Whenever people start acting like homosexuality has any fixed tie to anything other than sexual behavior, I have to wonder if they are basing that on anything other than TV, movies, and popular stereotypes.


I was just listening to British Steel.

Judas Priest still kind of sucks.
 
2012-05-02 01:31:51 AM
Like I've stated earlier in this evening to friends: "Anybody that punches a child for any reason, let alone for something as simple as perceived homosexual "behavior" should have something awful and debilitating happen to them. This guy isn't like Jesus. This guy is just a hateful asshole."
 
2012-05-02 01:31:55 AM
I'm sorry but if the WBC won't touch child abuse or molestation with a 10 foot picket sign, maybe you shouldn't either.

You advocate hurting kids, see how far that gets you.
 
2012-05-02 01:32:47 AM
Transcript, if you can't stomach listening to that revolting garbage:

TRANSCRIPT: "So your little son starts to act a little girlish when he is four years old and instead of squashing that like a cockroach and saying, "Man up, son, get that dress off you and get outside and dig a ditch, because that is what boys do," you get out the camera and you start taking pictures of Johnny acting like a female and then you upload it to YouTube and everybody laughs about it and the next thing you know, this dude, this kid is acting out childhood fantasies that should have been squashed.
Can I make it any clearer? Dads, the second you see your son dropping the limp wrist, you walk over there and crack that wrist. Man up. Give him a good punch. Ok? You are not going to act like that. You were made by God to be a male and you are going to be a male. And when your daughter starts acting to Butch you reign her in. And you say, "Oh, no, sweetheart. You can play sports. Play them to the glory of God. But sometimes you are going to act like a girl and walk like a girl and talk like a girl and smell like a girl and that means you are going to be beautiful. You are going to be attractive. You are going to dress yourself up."
You say, "Can I take charge like that as a parent?"
Yeah, you can. You are authorized. I just gave you a special dispensation this morning to do that."


Bet this f*cker rapes his daughter.
 
2012-05-02 01:33:17 AM
from his FB PageThose who speak of the love of God are using the most hateful terms I have ever read. We must never resort to such language.

This written by the man who preached in church "when you see your son dropping the limp wrist...crack that wrist. Man-up. Give him a good punch."
 
2012-05-02 01:33:27 AM

strapp3r: hmmm, this preacher is a serious...

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I'm seriously considering posting that photo on the facebook page of a verified virgin girl in my class.
 
2012-05-02 01:34:51 AM

Gyrfalcon: Transcript, if you can't stomach listening to that revolting garbage:

TRANSCRIPT: "So your little son starts to act a little girlish when he is four years old and instead of squashing that like a cockroach and saying, "Man up, son, get that dress off you and get outside and dig a ditch, because that is what boys do," you get out the camera and you start taking pictures of Johnny acting like a female and then you upload it to YouTube and everybody laughs about it and the next thing you know, this dude, this kid is acting out childhood fantasies that should have been squashed.
Can I make it any clearer? Dads, the second you see your son dropping the limp wrist, you walk over there and crack that wrist. Man up. Give him a good punch. Ok? You are not going to act like that. You were made by God to be a male and you are going to be a male. And when your daughter starts acting to Butch you reign her in. And you say, "Oh, no, sweetheart. You can play sports. Play them to the glory of God. But sometimes you are going to act like a girl and walk like a girl and talk like a girl and smell like a girl and that means you are going to be beautiful. You are going to be attractive. You are going to dress yourself up."
You say, "Can I take charge like that as a parent?"
Yeah, you can. You are authorized. I just gave you a special dispensation this morning to do that."

Bet this f*cker rapes his daughter sucks cawk in highway rest stop restrooms.

 
2012-05-02 01:37:33 AM

The Southern Dandy: Gyrfalcon: Transcript, if you can't stomach listening to that revolting garbage:

TRANSCRIPT: "So your little son starts to act a little girlish when he is four years old and instead of squashing that like a cockroach and saying, "Man up, son, get that dress off you and get outside and dig a ditch, because that is what boys do," you get out the camera and you start taking pictures of Johnny acting like a female and then you upload it to YouTube and everybody laughs about it and the next thing you know, this dude, this kid is acting out childhood fantasies that should have been squashed.
Can I make it any clearer? Dads, the second you see your son dropping the limp wrist, you walk over there and crack that wrist. Man up. Give him a good punch. Ok? You are not going to act like that. You were made by God to be a male and you are going to be a male. And when your daughter starts acting to Butch you reign her in. And you say, "Oh, no, sweetheart. You can play sports. Play them to the glory of God. But sometimes you are going to act like a girl and walk like a girl and talk like a girl and smell like a girl and that means you are going to be beautiful. You are going to be attractive. You are going to dress yourself up."
You say, "Can I take charge like that as a parent?"
Yeah, you can. You are authorized. I just gave you a special dispensation this morning to do that."

Bet this f*cker rapes his daughter sucks cawk in highway rest stop restrooms.


He's only doing it because Jesus told him to do it so other fine, upstanding Christian men won't be lured down the path of sin and depravity.

He's literally taking one for the team every 20 minutes or so.

/surprised some hypocritical christian hatemonger hasn't used that excuse yet... "God told me to do do these gay acts so dozens of other good christian men wouldn't have to do them."
 
2012-05-02 01:38:49 AM

GhostFish: The idealization of manliness that these weirdos keep advocating is oddly homoerotic.

And it's in no way antithetical to homosexuality. There are plenty of bears, leatherdaddies, and gaybros out there. They can like sports, musclecars, working with powertools, and farking other dudes.

Whenever people start acting like homosexuality has any fixed tie to anything other than sexual behavior, I have to wonder if they are basing that on anything other than TV, movies, and popular stereotypes.


If you want to do a lot of facepalming, you should check out the fundy Vision Forum catalog sometime. It's chock full of that sort of oddly homoerotic vision of manliness, complete with books about godly close masculine friendship. It's a bizarre mix of the strangely homoerotic combined with a strong subtext that if you don't follow all of their books your sons will turn gay.

/of course the only things they have for girls are sewing kits and dolls
//being a girl who played with dolls and learned to sew at a young age didn't make me straight though
 
2012-05-02 01:41:04 AM
 
2012-05-02 01:42:26 AM

rynthetyn: GhostFish: The idealization of manliness that these weirdos keep advocating is oddly homoerotic.

And it's in no way antithetical to homosexuality. There are plenty of bears, leatherdaddies, and gaybros out there. They can like sports, musclecars, working with powertools, and farking other dudes.

Whenever people start acting like homosexuality has any fixed tie to anything other than sexual behavior, I have to wonder if they are basing that on anything other than TV, movies, and popular stereotypes.

If you want to do a lot of facepalming, you should check out the fundy Vision Forum catalog sometime. It's chock full of that sort of oddly homoerotic vision of manliness, complete with books about godly close masculine friendship. It's a bizarre mix of the strangely homoerotic combined with a strong subtext that if you don't follow all of their books your sons will turn gay.

/of course the only things they have for girls are sewing kits and dolls
//being a girl who played with dolls and learned to sew at a young age didn't make me straight though


Heh...I played with my Barbies and horses at a young age like a good straight girl. I'm still straight, of course.

However, WHAT I played with my Barbies and horses at that young age, well, let's just say you'd have thought I'd be a BDSM bull dyke by now. I'm not, but I should be.
 
2012-05-02 01:42:37 AM
I hate it when toddlers run for office on the Republican ticket then get caught cruising airport bathrooms.
 
2012-05-02 01:44:50 AM

loveblondieo: This guy needs a cock punch so hard, his ancestors feel it. He is the antithesis of good Christians like Mr Rogers (an ordained minister).


Mr. Rogers inadvertent made me lose my faith. I tried to picture him entering Heaven and being disappointed in God's inability to forgive everyone for everything.

In the end I decided if I can't picture Mr. Rogers being upset enough to cast Hitler into the lake of fire, why should I worship a deity petty enough to do that over trivial things?

/Thanks neighbor!
 
2012-05-02 01:45:07 AM
Good luck with Anonymous, preacher. Enjoy the pizza.
 
2012-05-02 01:53:28 AM
The fark?

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2012-05-02 01:53:30 AM
I would like to punch this guy with a cactus...
 
2012-05-02 01:53:47 AM
Christianity, the so-called "religion of peace", is at again.
 
2012-05-02 01:54:27 AM
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2012-05-02 01:54:31 AM
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Even Jareth the Goblin King agrees: " Slap Punch that baby, make him free straight."
 
2012-05-02 01:54:43 AM
"I would never advocate for such discipline or actions on behalf of a father or mother."

Dude -- did you HEAR what you farking SAID???
 
2012-05-02 01:55:33 AM

Vodka Zombie: How long before this pastor is caught snorting meth of a manwhore's ass?


I'm gonna say before the end of summer.
 
2012-05-02 01:56:15 AM
Does he have to be acting gay in order for me to punch the kid? I heard toddlers are filled with candy like pinatas.
 
2012-05-02 01:57:38 AM

mekki: Does he have to be acting gay in order for me to punch the kid? I heard toddlers are filled with candy like pinatas.


Break off a wrist, get a Pez.
 
2012-05-02 02:00:36 AM

mekki: I heard toddlers are filled with candy


After a couple of hours in the van.
 
2012-05-02 02:01:02 AM

AverageAmericanGuy: I hate it when people use "male" and "female" as nouns.


They're not nouns?
 
2012-05-02 02:01:25 AM
I am roman catholic but this guy is nuts. We aren't like this. Known of my family or friends care about homosexuality. I might not like or understand it but it's not my problem or concern. Whatever makes you happy do it. I don't care. Get married and have happy times. Any call to violence in the name of religion is not religion. It's violence. Somebody punch that pastor. He's not a pastor. He thinks he is but I promise he's not.
 
2012-05-02 02:01:38 AM
somewhat unrelated CSB//

There was a gay dude in front of me at a stop light today. How do I know he was a gay dude? His bumper sticker: "I'm so gay I can't even drive straight".

fin
 
2012-05-02 02:03:02 AM
P.s. I'm roman catholic. If someone drives me to westboro baptist church I'll throw the firebomb when we get there.
 
2012-05-02 02:04:32 AM

Gyrfalcon: rynthetyn: GhostFish: The idealization of manliness that these weirdos keep advocating is oddly homoerotic.

And it's in no way antithetical to homosexuality. There are plenty of bears, leatherdaddies, and gaybros out there. They can like sports, musclecars, working with powertools, and farking other dudes.

Whenever people start acting like homosexuality has any fixed tie to anything other than sexual behavior, I have to wonder if they are basing that on anything other than TV, movies, and popular stereotypes.

If you want to do a lot of facepalming, you should check out the fundy Vision Forum catalog sometime. It's chock full of that sort of oddly homoerotic vision of manliness, complete with books about godly close masculine friendship. It's a bizarre mix of the strangely homoerotic combined with a strong subtext that if you don't follow all of their books your sons will turn gay.

/of course the only things they have for girls are sewing kits and dolls
//being a girl who played with dolls and learned to sew at a young age didn't make me straight though

Heh...I played with my Barbies and horses at a young age like a good straight girl. I'm still straight, of course.

However, WHAT I played with my Barbies and horses at that young age, well, let's just say you'd have thought I'd be a BDSM bull dyke by now. I'm not, but I should be.


Yeah, I really don't think that the whole toy thing has any connection to what you turn out to be as an adult.

The anti-gay crowd sends ridiculously mixed messages about what's appropriate for girls to do. You're supposed to let your daughter play sports and do tom-boy stuff if she wants to, because if you discourage her she'll feel that maybe she shouldn't be a girl and then she'll turn gay, but on the other hand, you're also supposed to push long hair and frilly dresses and stereotypical girly behavior onto girls.

Actually, the whole thing is a mass of mixed messages. Case in point, not long ago I discovered that the dad of one of my (straight) sister's high school hockey teammates (she played on the guys' team as the only girl in the league) is the head of Exodus International's counselling referral "ministry" and has published papers with NARTH about curing children of teh ghey. Dude advocates getting your sons into contact sports to encourage their masculinity, which resulted in his son, my sister's teammate, being the only guy she played with who just couldn't deal with playing a contact sport with a girl. His father had taught him to define his masculinity in terms of his hockey skill and the fact that he was tough and macho and could go out and hit people and get hit and bounce back, so when there was a girl who comes along who bounces back no matter how many times he checks her in practices and who will hit back, I think it struck at his entire identity as a guy. Meanwhile while his son spent the whole time they were on the same team trying to get my sister to fold, mister bigwig in the ex-gay counselling world was always affirming my sister about how great it was that she was playing hockey, which makes total sense when you take into account the whole, "girls whose parents discouraged them from playing sports turn into lesbians" trope of ex-gay therapy.
 
2012-05-02 02:04:50 AM
Greetings Mr. Christ:

I wanted to bring an issue to your attention. I've been at the earth location of your organization for over 3 decades, so please don't think I'm completely new and have yet to get a basic understanding of the culture within the company. There's no easy way to put this, so I'll just be as forward as possible. Your followers are batshiat insane and doing terrible things. These things are hurting the company, and without question are creating a hostile work environment for many groups of minorities; specifically the homosexuals, women, and the poor. What's worse is they are doing these things in your name, even though you've given them explicit instructions to do exactly the opposite of what they have chosen to do. I understand that the last time you made it to the earth facility (before I was here) you did a great job educating them about how to act towards one another; I have read the entire reference book that was compiled from notes taken by those here at the time. I understand that you are scheduled to come back at some point in the future, although the exact date hasn't been worked out yet. I believe the only way to remedy this situation is for you to move your next earth visit to a higher priority. The sooner you get here, the sooner you can see for yourself and remove these people from the organization. In my professional opinion, this is the only way for the company to move forward.

Best Regards,
DTMB

P.S. The last company party on your B-day was awesome. The events manager you created does a great job. Please don't transfer her to the heaven facility for a while.
 
2012-05-02 02:05:15 AM

mekki: Does he have to be acting gay in order for me to punch the kid? I heard toddlers are filled with candy like pinatas.


Nah, but they only take one punch and they go down like chumps. Then you can take whatever candy you want from 'em.

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2012-05-02 02:05:25 AM
Another Christianist thug.
 
2012-05-02 02:05:40 AM
Oh god, this headline is built for the Molested Farker tm

/not believer
//but I think atheists are crazier thank believers
//me I don't give a fark what you think... even if an atheist and/or priest fark you in the arse.
 
2012-05-02 02:06:41 AM

eddiesocket: AverageAmericanGuy: I hate it when people use "male" and "female" as nouns.

They're not nouns?


One of them is a dangling participle.
 
2012-05-02 02:07:01 AM
Good products and ideas sell themselves.

If being whatever this goober's idea of a boy or girl is were so wonderful, you wouldn't have to beat them into it. It reminds me of a large woman I saw in a department store who was having a sales person try to help her into a way too small pair of jeans, "Make them fit, damn't!"

Arguing with reality is often insanity.

And in the letter where he clarifies himself, he stipulates that children should be physically punished on the fleshy portion of the buttocks? I have always thought spanking is bizarrely sexual but the word fleshy takes it a bit further.

I only wish I had been in the audience so I could ask him what he thinks about male cheerleaders.
 
2012-05-02 02:09:17 AM

patuljka: *rolls eyes* He already issued this on the FB page for his church's "Single's Ministry"

Dear Berean Family,

By now you may know that my words, from Sunday morning's sermon, about effeminate behavior in children are being completely taken out of context by those in the LGBT community.

Clearly, I would like to have been more careful with exactly what I said, but sometimes I say things without enough clarity. I trust you understood my intent in the context of my total preaching ministry. If you did not, I would be more than happy to meet with you privately to provide clarity. Just reply to this email. I provided clarity to the Fayetteville Observer today but I cannot be sure they will accurately report my words.

For the record, I want to ensure everyone that I do NOT believe physical force is capable of fixing effeminate behavior or homosexual behavior. (Ultimately only the gospel of Jesus Christ has the power to deliver one from sexual immorality and behavior including effeminacy.)

I would never advocate for such discipline or actions on behalf of a father or mother. Hopefully, you understood that I was speaking in a forceful manner to emphasize the degree to which gender distinctions matter to God; and therefore, must matter to each of us and especially parents.

Either Paul's words in 1 Corinthians 6:9-11 are true and we should communicate the truth in love for fear of not entering the Kingdom of God or the entire Bible cannot be trusted to be the Word of God.

Those in the opposition are suggesting all sorts of hateful things and using ungodly and profane words. Those who speak of the love of God are using the most hateful terms I have ever read. We must never resort to such language.

I want to stress just how much I love your children and my desire is only to see them glorify God in the lives they live in obedience to God's will for each of them as revealed in the Word of God. I believe I communicated that in the sermon as well. I also hope my actions, for the past 5 years, speak even louder than my words.

We have an official statement on the disciple of children that can be read below my signature line.

As I emphasized in this sermon, as well as the week before, we must not be hateful toward those whose behavior is an abomination to God. But we also cannot compromise on what we believe the Bible teaches on all sexual perversions and immorality.

The opposition is revealing their complete lack of toleration toward those do not approve of the LGBT lifestyle or agenda. However, we must be tolerantly intolerant. Jesus our Savior provides the perfect example of grace and truth.

Sincerely,

Pastor Sean

P.S. Our Student Pastor did a great job exposing this hypocrisy today on a short recording on Dan Savage's and His Bullying Hypocrisy. Listen Now | (17 min) http://www.sermonaudio.com/playpopup.asp?SID=51121147298

Discipline of Children: We believe that parents should train their children in light of the gospel. Remembering the love and forgiveness that God has shown them, parents in turn should train their children with the purpose of reflecting the Heavenly Father to their children. Parents should consider their responsibility to be the instrument of discipline in their child's life (Prov. 19:18). At times this may include appropriate and reasonable physical means (Prov. 10:13) employed upon the fleshy portion of the child's buttocks (Prov. 22:15; 23:13); that this method is to be viewed as correction rather than punishment (Prov. 23:13); and that this correction will result in the child's physical and spiritual betterment (Prov. 23:14). We believe a parent should correct his child with other means as well, but that they should-as led by the Holy Spirit-model the chastening of God the Father (Prov. 3:11-12) Who corrects all of His children out of love (2 Sam 7:14; Prov. 3:12; Heb 12:6; Rev 3:19) and forgives them by virtue of His Son's redemptive work on the cross (1 Pet. 3:18). The Father does this to develop His child's reverence for Himself (Heb. 12:9) and likeness to His Son Jesus Christ (Rom 8:29; Heb 12:11). Moreover, just as the Heavenly Father disciplines His children physically for their benefit, it is in the best interests of a child to receive loving and proportional correction while under parental care (Heb. 12:10). Furthermore, we strongly caution the parent in the correcting of infants and younger children in this manner, and we reject the idea that bruising is ever the objective when disciplining a child. We also reject disciplining while angry (James 1:19-20) or causing public embarrassment to a child (Eph. 6:4). Lastly, we believe civil laws should be honored (Rom 13:1-4; Titus 3:1), and that the chastening ideal set forth in the Old Testament must be interpreted in light of the New Testament.


You almost have to admire the guy who tells you to punch your toddler and then complains about other people saying swear words.
 
2012-05-02 02:09:38 AM
No hate like religious wackjob hate.

Hey guy, how does it feel to be exactly the opposite of what the man/god you supposedly worship farking TOLD YOU TO DO?

You are member ofthe Pauline cult, not a Christian. Paul followers must be burnt to the death.
 
2012-05-02 02:11:54 AM
I strongly disagree with this pastor. I'll be happy to fark his wife. I think she deserves a real man instead of a coward to wants parents to abuse their kids for no reason except for his hate.
 
2012-05-02 02:13:10 AM

swingerofbirches: And in the letter where he clarifies himself, he stipulates that children should be physically punished on the fleshy portion of the buttocks? I have always thought spanking is bizarrely sexual but the word fleshy takes it a bit further.


"Supple" and "Tender" are also red flags
 
2012-05-02 02:13:22 AM
And the worst part is, had this guy ever met a three year old boy? They all act gay.
 
2012-05-02 02:14:26 AM

neongoats: No hate like religious wackjob hate.

Hey guy, how does it feel to be exactly the opposite of what the man/god you supposedly worship farking TOLD YOU TO DO?

You are member ofthe Pauline cult, not a Christian. Paul followers must be burnt to the death.


So do you support Jesus?

/he did a great job on my lawn
 
2012-05-02 02:14:58 AM
My favorite part of the article:

Sean Harris (pictured, left)

Just to make sure that the readers don't think he's the tranny on the right.
 
2012-05-02 02:15:51 AM

Gyrfalcon: However, WHAT I played with my Barbies and horses at that young age, well, let's just say you'd have thought I'd be a BDSM bull dyke by now. I'm not, but I should be.


Go on.


Back on topic, after listening to the audio what struck me as even more of an utter disgrace than his words and his venom was his congregation's laughter and cries of "Amen!"

Because as we all know, there's nothing better for a harmless laugh than hearing some roaring sanctimonious coont howl in favour of horrific child abuse. Shame on those who would take offence at this fine example of quality Conservative comedy.

Besides, he has since stated that he would never say the words he did, in fact, say, because he doesn't believe that the physical abuse that he recommends would work.

/did I point out already that he is a coont? In case I missed it, he's a coont. A vile, nasty, hateful bigoted coont.
 
2012-05-02 02:18:27 AM

Britney Spear's Speculum: "you were made by god to be a male and you're gonna be a male"

pseudohermaphroditism
androgen insensitivity syndrome
Klinefelter's syndrome
Congenital adrenal hyperplasia
21-hydroxylase_deficiency

Where is your god now?



At the Gay Bar?
 
2012-05-02 02:19:29 AM
Why not? It obviously worked on him.

ZING!

But seriously, he should be stoned to death. He has shaven his beard and trimmed the sides of his head. ABOMINATION!!!!!
 
2012-05-02 02:21:59 AM

OMG! We're All Gonna Die!: I am roman catholic but this guy is nuts. We aren't like this. Known of my family or friends care about homosexuality. I might not like or understand it but it's not my problem or concern. Whatever makes you happy do it. I don't care. Get married and have happy times. Any call to violence in the name of religion is not religion. It's violence. Somebody punch that pastor. He's not a pastor. He thinks he is but I promise he's not.


A Catholic oughta know. Catholicism and violence go together like Ted Haggard and teenage boys.
 
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