At first I was like, 'Meh' and then I was like 'meh'...

So I'm declaring 'epic' to be officially dead as an adjective. It no longer has value.

I thought it would be good, but then it wasn't.

Subby, that was stupid. That wasn't singing, it was noise making. ...And now, the noises are stuck in my head.

/loop a doop a loop a doop

Try watching it on acid.
One drug user I babysit suggested it would be "epic" then.

m3h: Subby, that was stupid. That wasn't singing, it was noise making. ...And now, the noises are stuck in my head.

/loop a doop a loop a doop

Squiggly dot . . . Squiggly dot . . .

Honestly, as a math person, I'm getting tired of these "look at me I do math and look how its related to music and OMG ISNT THAT SO DEEP and I'm a woman so watch me have all these skills" videos. Vi Hart's great and all, but it's getting old.

If you want to do math, go prove some farking theorems. Or take one of the bajillion open math and/or engineering problems, and apply your skills to an innovative solution. fark, do SOMETHING other than make a YouTube video.

I get that recreational math can be interesting and fun and whatnot. And it's good to get other people interested in it. But if mathematical facts such as "there exists no non-iterative algorithm for computing the eigenvalues of a square matrix with dimension n > 4" don't interest you enough by themselves, you're just not going to be a math person.

Needs more cowbell.

Oh, and the whole "I do math and music and drawing and look at me IM SO SMART FOR HAVING SKILLS IN THREE AREAS THAT MOST PEOPLE THINK ARE UNRELATED" schtick is so farking old.

meddleRPI: Honestly, as a math person, I'm getting tired of these "look at me I do math and look how its related to music and OMG ISNT THAT SO DEEP and I'm a woman so watch me have all these skills" videos. Vi Hart's great and all, but it's getting old.

If you want to do math, go prove some farking theorems. Or take one of the bajillion open math and/or engineering problems, and apply your skills to an innovative solution. fark, do SOMETHING other than make a YouTube video.

I get that recreational math can be interesting and fun and whatnot. And it's good to get other people interested in it. But if mathematical facts such as "there exists no non-iterative algorithm for computing the eigenvalues of a square matrix with dimension n > 4" don't interest you enough by themselves, you're just not going to be a math person.

You're forgetting about the loop-a-de-doop-a-de-loop-a-de-doop-a-de-loop-a-de-doop-a-de-loop-a-de- doop-a-de-loop-a-de-doop-a-de-loop-a-de-doop-a-de-loop-a-de-doop-a-de- loop-a-de-doop-a-de-loop-a-de-doop-a-de-loop-a-de-doop-a-de-loop-a-de- doop-a-de-loop-a-de-doop-a-de-loop equation.

That felt like old school Sesame Street, back when there was no Elmo, Snuffleupagus was invisible, and the creators were on drugs.

meddleRPI: If you want to do math, go prove some farking theorems.

Every theorem has already been proved. After all, if they weren't proved, they'd be theories, not theorems.

Mmmmm . . . theory-proving women:


/I likes me a woman with a Bacon-Erdös number

Anagrammer: meddleRPI: If you want to do math, go prove some farking theorems.

Every theorem has already been proved. After all, if they weren't proved, they'd be theories, not theorems.

Mmmmm . . . theory-proving women:
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/I likes me a woman with a Bacon-Erdös number

Well, they'll never be theorems unless they're proved!

So, go prove some theorems!

/oh internet

That was farking horrible.

BroVinny: Epic Music Video

That's more like it.

Elzar
GAT_00
buckler
MorrisBird
m3h
Herr Flick's Revenge
meddleRPI
Anagrammer
Winktologist
Zap_Rowsdower
TheManofPA
Serpoltas

Sounds like you guys want it all
*sunglasses*
but you can't have it.

Subby your submission was bad and you should feel bad.

"singing a capella" is the only correct usage of the word. There is no "capella" singing. You sing "a capella."

Meh, indeed.

Was hoping it was going to be something done with UPIC. Am disappoint.

REAL scoring with markers; old school: Iannis Xenakis - Metastasis and Mycenae Alpha

I thought this was remarkably happy compared to anything else I've seen in a long time.

My music collection contains very little happy. Mostly Tom Waits and Tiger Lillies.

In case that was too happy for you

And no, it's not Fry's dog.

Subby, Inigo Montoya would like a word with you.

saintwrathchild: Elzar
GAT_00
buckler
MorrisBird
m3h
Herr Flick's Revenge
meddleRPI
Anagrammer
Winktologist
Zap_Rowsdower
TheManofPA
Serpoltas

Sounds like you guys want it all
*sunglasses*
but you can't have it.

What is it?

Anagrammer: m3h: Subby, that was stupid. That wasn't singing, it was noise making. ...And now, the noises are stuck in my head.

/loop a doop a loop a doop

Squiggly dot . . . Squiggly dot . . .

Loopa-dee-doopa-dee Loopa-dee-doopa-dee

Is anyone else getting flashbacks to the Phillip Glass animations from Sesame Street?

The person who made this is currently famous? You mean this wasn't made in the 1970's?

Far from epic, but a really pretty way of showing sound.

saintwrathchild: Elzar
GAT_00
buckler
MorrisBird
m3h
Herr Flick's Revenge
meddleRPI
Anagrammer
Winktologist
Zap_Rowsdower
TheManofPA
Serpoltas

Sounds like you guys want it all
*sunglasses*
but you can't have it.

But it's right there in my face, if I could only grab it.

saintwrathchild: Sounds like you guys want it all
*sunglasses*
but you can't have it.

In other words, you're accusing geeks of hanging out in the geek tab?

/How dare you!

man who pissed in your guys Cheerios..geeze?

mamoru: meddleRPI: If you want to do math, go prove some farking theorems. Or take one of the bajillion open math and/or engineering problems, and apply your skills to an innovative solution. fark, do SOMETHING other than make a YouTube video.

Math does not have to be useful. Math, like any art, can just be. If someone wants to play with it and have fun with the, then GREAT! You never know what you might stumble across when you play. How do you think most of the great math we use today was discovered? It was by curious people playing with numbers and seeing what happened when they made up rules for those numbers and applied them logically. That is what math is all about.

People who demand seriousness and utility from math are a big part of the reason that learning math tends to suck and most people don't get interested in it. You want the serious math to get done? You go do it.

If Vi Hart wants to treat math like a toy to play with and make videos of that, power to her. I, for one, am glad she makes these videos and shares this stuff, even if it isn't entirely useful or world-shaking. A lot of it is pretty cool, it's entertaining, and sometimes her videos help me a lot when I need a way to explain some tough concepts to my own students.

/math teacher

My kid (3rd grader) is seriously interested in art, but seriously bored with and/or intimidated by math for some reason. Yet we did division flash cards last night and she KNOWS this stuff. I'm going to start showing some of Vi Hart's stuff, and show her how math and art can relate and coincide. Maybe it will work, maybe not.

She may wind up being like me. Growing up, it was abundantly clear I was going to be an engineer, I applied to one college, in an engineering program, and got in. But I sucked at calculus. And had terrible study habits. So my degrees are not in engineering. I do something else, but my work has a significant detail/technical/geek factor to it, some of it by my own design.

/also, a bookmark

Is this from Nick's Pinwheel in the mid 80s?

meddleRPI: Honestly, as a math person, I'm getting tired of these "look at me I do math and look how its related to music and OMG ISNT THAT SO DEEP and I'm a woman so watch me have all these skills" videos. Vi Hart's great and all, but it's getting old.

If you want to do math, go prove some farking theorems. Or take one of the bajillion open math and/or engineering problems, and apply your skills to an innovative solution. fark, do SOMETHING other than make a YouTube video.

I get that recreational math can be interesting and fun and whatnot. And it's good to get other people interested in it. But if mathematical facts such as "there exists no non-iterative algorithm for computing the eigenvalues of a square matrix with dimension n > 4" don't interest you enough by themselves, you're just not going to be a math person.

Beauty and meaning are where you find it, Mr. Asperger's.

meddleRPI: If you want to do math, go prove some farking theorems make me sammich.

ApatheticMonkey: Is anyone else getting flashbacks to the Phillip Glass animations from Sesame Street?

nope, but it does make me miss when i used to play with my spirograph while singing along to disney movies.

mamoru: meddleRPI: If you want to do math, go prove some farking theorems. Or take one of the bajillion open math and/or engineering problems, and apply your skills to an innovative solution. fark, do SOMETHING other than make a YouTube video.

Math does not have to be useful. Math, like any art, can just be. If someone wants to play with it and have fun with the, then GREAT! You never know what you might stumble across when you play. How do you think most of the great math we use today was discovered? It was by curious people playing with numbers and seeing what happened when they made up rules for those numbers and applied them logically. That is what math is all about.

People who demand seriousness and utility from math are a big part of the reason that learning math tends to suck and most people don't get interested in it. You want the serious math to get done? You go do it.

If Vi Hart wants to treat math like a toy to play with and make videos of that, power to her. I, for one, am glad she makes these videos and shares this stuff, even if it isn't entirely useful or world-shaking. A lot of it is pretty cool, it's entertaining, and sometimes her videos help me a lot when I need a way to explain some tough concepts to my own students.

/math teacher

I am. The difference is that I'm not posting YouTube videos going "lookatmeeeelookatmeeee".

I get that what she does is interesting. Of course it's interesting. But the fact that it's necessary isn't an indicator of some deep hitherto unknown connection. It's an indicator of a failure of math education. The "tricks" she uses in her video should be standard education, rather than "here's a homework consisting of solving a quadratic by hand using the quadratic formula 20 different times".

There's no more or less value in treating math like a toy than treating any other field like a toy. The difference, again, is that I don't re-write Tennyson's Ulysses in red crayon and go "OMG LOOK AT HOW MUCH OF A POLYMATH I AM".

meddleRPI: Honestly, as a math person, I'm getting tired of these "look at me I do math and look how its related to music and OMG ISNT THAT SO DEEP and I'm a woman so watch me have all these skills" videos. Vi Hart's great and all, but it's getting old.

If you want to do math, go prove some farking theorems. Or take one of the bajillion open math and/or engineering problems, and apply your skills to an innovative solution. fark, do SOMETHING other than make a YouTube video.

I get that recreational math can be interesting and fun and whatnot. And it's good to get other people interested in it. But if mathematical facts such as "there exists no non-iterative algorithm for computing the eigenvalues of a square matrix with dimension n > 4" don't interest you enough by themselves, you're just not going to be a math person.

I think in one of her earlier videos she discusses about her goal in some of these videos is to make mathematics fun AND educational and that a lot of it is taught in a boring manner. The very premise of her videos in most cases is "so you're me and you're bored in math class...". And I agree with her. I never wanted to be a mathematician, I simply wanted to enjoy the subject. I had one Pakistani teacher who taught the theory behind everything, and while I did understand it, there was no application. I had another class with the head of the math dept. and he was basically a nutty professor George Carlin lookalike and only catered to the math heads. Her videos are entertaining and her voice is soothing in a Saganesque way that makes them easy to watch and memorable. Plus, her doodling is top-notch, and this is coming from someone whose comparative artistic skills make XKCD comics look like Van Gogh paintings by comparison.

I guarantee if I had had a teacher who taught set theory, Sierpinski triangles and Fibonacci sequences with as much entertainment value as Vi did, I might not have stopped at Calc 2.

Much as the thread a while back about the teacher who turned his class into a Dungeons and Dragons-like RPG, the kids need to be educationally motivated these days in a world filled with computer games ans fast moving music videos. Their time-to-boredom levels are much higher than when I was a student.

th0th: Holy crap, you could suck the fun out of a stripper & Jello party.

If Ms. Hart enjoys making these videos and other people enjoy watching them, why the fark do you care?

Because it leads to stupid, annoying videos being posted on Fark.

meddleRPI:

Dude, if this video pisses you off, you should spend less time on math and more time working on your anger management issues.

meddleRPI: Honestly, as a math person, I'm getting tired of these "look at me I do math and look how its related to music and OMG ISNT THAT SO DEEP and I'm a woman so watch me have all these skills" videos. Vi Hart's great and all, but it's getting old.

If you want to do math, go prove some farking theorems. Or take one of the bajillion open math and/or engineering problems, and apply your skills to an innovative solution. fark, do SOMETHING other than make a YouTube video.

I get that recreational math can be interesting and fun and whatnot. And it's good to get other people interested in it. But if mathematical facts such as "there exists no non-iterative algorithm for computing the eigenvalues of a square matrix with dimension n > 4" don't interest you enough by themselves, you're just not going to be a math person.

I have no idea what this means, but I'm sure it means something interesting.

/Interested in how math affects us, but not good at it.
//hoping my kids become really interested in it..and get good at it

meddleRPI: There's no more or less value in treating math like a toy than treating any other field like a toy.

What is your problem. I thought the vid was engaging and entertaining. It was just a demonstration and if you are interested in how that sort of music fits into the larger scheme of musical types or the mathematics of symmetry then you might be inspired to learn more.

Sure she didn't go into explicit technical discussions involving precicely defined things.

If you want to see a highly technical math vid you might like Eugenia Cheng's introduction to monads which is rather engaging. Of course to really understand it you have to know fairly precise and technical definitions of words like "algebra", "theory", "model", "category", etc. Then again, you can just watch it and be inspired by Cheng's presentation to learn enough that you can understand it - though I would guess 99.99% of the population would regard the her vid as something that mainly induces brain hurt.

There is no reason not to endorse both types of vids. Hart's is not pure fluff while Cheng's is not pure hurt.