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(Fox 31 Denver)   I don't know whether the chicken or the egg came first, but I'm pretty sure that the egg farm fire came before 500,000 chicken deaths   (kdvr.com) divider line 91
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2012-05-01 05:40:48 PM  

hailin: This makes me sad. Especially since I have these three gals at home right now:

[www.backyardchickens.com image 600x382]

/The Chicken Centipede


Ameraucanas?

Mine a bit over a month ago:
fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net

And last weekend (crappy pic):
fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net
 
2012-05-01 05:44:13 PM  

JesseL: hailin: This makes me sad. Especially since I have these three gals at home right now:

[www.backyardchickens.com image 600x382]

/The Chicken Centipede

Ameraucanas?

Mine a bit over a month ago:
[fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net image 640x512]

And last weekend (crappy pic):
[fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net image 640x512]


Probably just Easter Eggers. The sign said Araucana (also known as Amerucana and Easter Egger) which made me have a WTF moment. Since I doubt a feed store stocks actual Araucanas I'm guessing they are EE mutts. Cute though! I think ours are about a week, but I can't wait for them to get a bit bigger so we can go play outside!

Your flock is so pretty!
 
2012-05-01 05:45:20 PM  
Said to be inconsolable at the moment:

3.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-05-01 05:53:41 PM  

Jake Havechek: Sounds like the chicken holocaust, but until chickens start running Hollywood and the World Bank I can't get too interested.



Prof. Frink:
Until? Obviously you haven't read The Protocols of the Elders of Perdue yet.



Hehe.
 
2012-05-01 05:57:08 PM  

Sticky Hands: rocketpants: I bet that whole county smells delicious.

I used to live near a small turkey farm (the turkeys weren't midgets, the farm was small) that went up in flames one day.

It smelled like the time that the Nelson boys set Danny's head on fire in the back of the school bus, only it filled the whole valley for weeks.



Like a turd covered in burnt hair?
 
2012-05-01 05:57:30 PM  
They didn't WANT to be pies!
 
2012-05-01 06:01:11 PM  
Ahem:

i257.photobucket.com
 
2012-05-01 06:07:26 PM  

JesseL: hailin: This makes me sad. Especially since I have these three gals at home right now:

[www.backyardchickens.com image 600x382]

/The Chicken Centipede

Ameraucanas?

Mine a bit over a month ago:
[fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net image 640x512]

And last weekend (crappy pic):
[fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net image 640x512]



I want to share my cluckers too

i457.photobucket.com



This is the new group of 3. The old group of three started eating their own eggs last summer, so they became chicken soup.

//Probably my own fault for getting lax about egg gathering.
 
2012-05-01 06:08:12 PM  
Missed the last one

i457.photobucket.com
 
2012-05-01 06:09:33 PM  
I worked at a chicken plant for a while.
Fun Fact: When burning, chicken feathers give off a gas that can paralyze a human, which is why so many perish in home fires. The gas can attack the central nervous system and you can't get up and run away as you burn to death while you DIAF.
Not that it should matter.
 
2012-05-01 06:14:35 PM  
We had this happen at an egg farm up where I'm from last year. I think it started in one of the AC units or air circulators. Regardless, they lost 250000 hens at least. That was the amount in that building, they were looking at losing more due to the stress. Never heard the final tally
 
2012-05-01 06:22:35 PM  

vudukungfu: I worked at a chicken plant for a while.
Fun Fact: When burning, chicken feathers give off a gas that can paralyze a human, which is why so many perish in home fires. The gas can attack the central nervous system and you can't get up and run away as you burn to death while you DIAF.
Not that it should matter.


Uhm, is that gas known as carbon monoxide? Otherwise, got a citation? Quite curious about that, and a bit skeptical.

As far as the whole chicken or egg came first thing, it really depends. The way it's usually stated, it's clear the egg came first. There were many egg-laying animals way before chickens.

If you want to ask if the chicken-egg or the chicken came first, then it's a bit more complicated, and it really just comes down to our concepts of species being abstractions that don't fare well when you look at it generation by generation. It only makes sense when you zoom out a bit.

Otherwise, if you look at every parent down the line, eventually you need to make a cutoff between "chicken" and "not chicken". When you think about it that way, it's clear how subjective that is. At some point there was a non-chicken that gave birth to a chicken, but almost certainly they were both extremely similar to each other. Everyone would look at it differently and have at least a slightly different cutoff.
 
2012-05-01 06:26:48 PM  

ringersol: It's even possible that a not-chicken laid a not-quite-chicken egg, but external factors acted upon the gestating chick to produce the first chicken. Which raises the question of whether it's sufficient to define what a *chicken* is and simply assume that any egg that births a chicken is officially a chicken egg, or whether you need to scientifically define what a chicken egg is, independently of what a chicken is.


No.

This isn't a debate about re-defining gender, or such things. We're not all sitting around talking about what it means to be male/female.

We're talking about what it means to be a particular species. You cannot, in any way, change species after birth. You cannot, in any way, change species after egg fertilization but prior to birth. You can not, in any way...change species. What you can do though is produce mutated offspring.
 
2012-05-01 06:27:57 PM  

screwzloos: Assuming they clean out the chicken crap every once in a while (which may be a lot to assume), what would even be flammable in those buildings? Chickens are kinda watery, eggs are kinda watery, their cages are metal, and the egg conveyor system should be mostly metal.

Looking at how flat those buildings collapsed down to, whatever it was must have burnt pretty hot.


Feathers burn like nobody's business. All you have to do is have one chicken smoking in bed, and it would go up like a down comforter.
 
2012-05-01 06:32:11 PM  
Arson investigators really had to peel through the layers to get discover the source of this fire.
 
2012-05-01 06:33:29 PM  
...sorry no get in above post. I'm tired. But "layer" puns never are.
 
2012-05-01 06:36:19 PM  
Creatures laid eggs long before the first chicken came into existence.

Oh you meant "what came first, the chicken or the chicken egg"?

Well that depends on how you define a chicken egg. If you mean an egg laid by a chicken then obviously the chicken came first. If you mean an egg which will develop into a chicken, then the chicken egg must necessarily have come before the chicken.

This failed paradox brought to you by creationist thought, which posits that the earth and all it's creatures came into being exactly as they are now.
 
2012-05-01 06:43:24 PM  
Well only one thing left to do.
www.simpalife.com
 
2012-05-01 06:46:52 PM  
1) all chickens come from eggs
2) some creatures lay eggs

logic would dictate that the egg came before the chicken

but then the problem becomes, who did that first chicken mate with to continue the chicken chain?
 
2012-05-01 06:49:57 PM  

butt-nuggets: 1) all chickens come from eggs
2) some creatures lay eggs

logic would dictate that the egg came before the chicken

but then the problem becomes, who did that first chicken mate with to continue the chicken chain?


Did nobody read the article I linked to?!? It was the chicken, damnit!! THE CHICKEN CAME FIRST!!
 
2012-05-01 06:54:56 PM  

Why Would I Read the Article: butt-nuggets: 1) all chickens come from eggs
2) some creatures lay eggs

logic would dictate that the egg came before the chicken

but then the problem becomes, who did that first chicken mate with to continue the chicken chain?

Did nobody read the article I linked to?!? It was the chicken, damnit!! THE CHICKEN CAME FIRST!!


That article takes an extremely narrow view of the question and is thus stupid.
 
2012-05-01 06:58:27 PM  

Why Would I Read the Article: butt-nuggets: 1) all chickens come from eggs
2) some creatures lay eggs

logic would dictate that the egg came before the chicken

but then the problem becomes, who did that first chicken mate with to continue the chicken chain?

Did nobody read the article I linked to?!? It was the chicken, damnit!! THE CHICKEN CAME FIRST!!


why would I read the article?
 
2012-05-01 07:00:23 PM  
Nevermind all that, what's more important is that did the fire department salvage the chickens for the barbecue afterward?
 
2012-05-01 07:11:35 PM  

fuhfuhfuh: Pinner: If a newscaster said ANYTHING about the smell, there would be so many butthurt PETA emails blasted out.

Can't imagine it would smell good. I could only imagine that it would be a heady odor of burning feathers smell (almost like burnt hair) with pungent overtones of smoldering chicken shiat and burnt plastic accents.




Great. Now I'm hungry again...
 
2012-05-01 07:14:33 PM  
Extra Crispy will be the only menu option at KFC next week.
 
2012-05-01 07:19:20 PM  

Guuberre: It's like 500,000 voices cried "BOCK!!!" in terror and were silenced....


You win 3 internets.
 
2012-05-01 07:22:26 PM  
It's just another excuse to Fark me on the price of eggs!!
(I eat > 15 dozen a week)
 
2012-05-01 07:28:00 PM  

Buffet: It's just another excuse to Fark me on the price of eggs!!
(I eat > 15 dozen a week)


You average more than 25 a day?

Is this you?

www.blogcdn.com
 
2012-05-01 07:30:15 PM  

Guuberre: It's like 500,000 voices cried "BOCK!!!" in terror and were silenced....


if a chicken produces about an egg a day then you have to say that a little under 1 million died because it still counts as a life!
/quickly exits thread
 
2012-05-01 07:31:20 PM  
The firemen ran out of fire
 
2012-05-01 07:50:11 PM  
Time for in vitro eggs. Get the chickens out of the equation and you avoid shiat like this. (and the tons of chicken crap, male chicks getting ground up and fed to other chickens, etc.)
 
2012-05-01 08:03:18 PM  
Pull the 2 1/2 line with a slug tip and get the tankers started on the hot sauce shuttle. Have the second arriving engine get the blue cheese and celery ready. Engine 21 has Delicious Command.
 
2012-05-01 08:07:30 PM  
myintrinsichealth.files.wordpress.com

Oh, the chickanity!
 
2012-05-01 08:08:13 PM  

destrip: Time for in vitro eggs. Get the chickens out of the equation and you avoid shiat like this. (and the tons of chicken crap, male chicks getting ground up and fed to other chickens, etc.)


Instead you get young chickens being vivisected so their ovaries can be harvested.
 
2012-05-01 09:21:55 PM  
 
2012-05-01 09:22:52 PM  
Why yes, I did graduate from a war college.
 
2012-05-01 11:10:30 PM  

JesseL: Buffet: It's just another excuse to Fark me on the price of eggs!!
(I eat > 15 dozen a week)

You average more than 25 a day?

Is this you?

[www.blogcdn.com image 530x313]


No, but what a great movie! (I'd never cut the heads off parking meters)
 
2012-05-01 11:22:35 PM  

Genta: the egg came first.

life began in the seas, where fish lay eggs to reproduce. then fish evolved to amphibious creatures like frogs, and frogs lay eggs as well.

"The first fully terrestrial vertebrates were amniotes - their eggs had internal membranes that allowed the developing embryo to breathe but kept water in. This allowed amniotes to lay eggs on dry land, while amphibians generally need to lay their eggs in water"
wiki link

reptiles and birds evolved from the amniotes (as did mammals but their evolution split after the amniots)

so basically... eventually an amniote laid a mutated egg that then became a bird, and a bird then laid a mutated egg that then became a chicken.

in short.... the egg came first.


But what about Crockoduck and the Banana Mr. Smarty pants!

/kidding of course
//though a lot of people don't grasp enough evolution to handle the question
 
2012-05-02 03:46:04 AM  

vudukungfu: Abner Doon: Otherwise, got a citation?

In 189 BC Ambracia was besieged by the Romans, who dug mines under the walls. The defenders filled a clay jar with chicken feathers, which they then lit, using bellows to blow the acrid smoke down the tunnel; unable to approach the pot due to defensive spears, the Romans were forced to abandon their workings
closest I got for now, but ask a local M.E. they may be able to allay your fears about your fluffy snuggleblankie.


Hmm, quite interesting. Kind of curious why they don't go into the whole "why chicken feathers?" thing in that article, but then it is Wikipedia, and that event was a farklong time ago.

Wish I could find more on google about burning chicken feathers in particular, but doesn't seem to be much.
 
2012-05-02 04:19:23 PM  
What the hell is going on at egg farms???

/link is about an egg farm, but so much more
 
2012-05-02 09:13:18 PM  

Cheesus: Noone knows the answer to this. Perhaps the chickens were all in a cult and committed mass suicide and set the fire so whoever they left behind could still get their life insurance payout.


They were, of course, using the ancient ritual to summon... THE COCKATRICE !

i107.photobucket.com

BAKAWK!

chickens are not smart: if they were, they'd know you hatch a chicken egg under a snake to produce a cockatrice... i think...
 
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