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2012-05-01 04:15:16 PM  
CSB:

Was at a protest for ACT UP's 25 year anniversary of when they shut down the Stock Market last week. My boss (who used to be an active member) asked me to accompany her. We didn't march or anything but just observed the crowd and the police actions.

The NYPD was pretty terrible. ACT UP was joined by some OWS people, you could tell who the old-timey AIDS Activists were. My boss ran into an old friend and I took a picutre of them together, when a cop comes over and yells at us "YOU HAVE TO MOVE, GET OVER THERE WITH THE PROTESTORS YOU CANT BE ON THIS SIDE OF THE STREET"

Since we weren't actually with/part of the protest my boss says good bye to her friend and we move down Broadway a bit, still on the side opposite of city hall. I mention to the cop, "We're not part of the protest."

My boss and I are talking a bit, just watching. I point out how there are almost as many cops as protestors. She says the fat captain in the white shirt looks like he is out of a cartoon. About 15 minutes later the same cop who told us to move comes over again, accompanied with a friend, and says "HEY I ALREADY TOLD YOU TO MOVE THREE TIMES, YOU CAN'T BE HERE YOU'RE BLOCKING PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC" I said back to him, "We're not blocking anyone, we're off to the side, no one's been inconvenienced."

His partner looks at me and says "Really? Really? Really?" so I said, "Yeah, really, is that the only word in your vocabulary?" The first cop, clearly not amused, says to me "You wMake my day, please. it'll be a real easy arrest and I can get the hell out of here." My boss looks at me and says to the cops "Excuse us, we're trying to leave but your blocking our way to the subway." So we walk about a block away and leave. My boss was pissed at the cops, she was is usually pretty quiet, I never heard the amount of obscenities that flew from her mouth.

She played it up to other people at the office, "Oh yeah, Justin almost got arrested, he wasn't even doing anything wrong when the cops decided to harass him! He stood up to those *&(*^ pigs!" Got soem good cube-cred out of that.

/csb
 
2012-05-01 04:24:00 PM  

SkinnyHead: Ted Nugent gets investigated by federal agents after urging people to vote against Obama, and the Army cancels his performance to retaliate against him for expressing his views. Liberals applaud. No First Amendment rights for him.

Occupy movement -- which is engaged in conspiracy "to shut down New York and cities across the country" and to blow up a bridge in Cleveland -- gets investigated. Liberals outraged. What about the First Amendment?


Liberal bias in the media.
 
2012-05-01 04:31:18 PM  

lennavan: I mean, I think the tea party is stupid as fark but if they started busting down doors of the tea party organizers doing this shiat, I'd think it was just as ridiculous.


Note that they don't. Teabaggers can even carry guns at their rallies and the cops don't mess with them.
 
2012-05-01 04:35:25 PM  

KingPsyz: I do so love when people mistake freedom of expression with freedom from repercussions.


"Repercussions" should be public opinion, not harassment and arrest by the state. That is NOT Freedom of Speech, that is state-mandated censorship.
 
2012-05-01 04:37:05 PM  

GAT_00: What country is this in? China? Syria? New York City?

No, no, see we can tell the difference. They weren't executed. At least there still is a difference.


Not for long. They will start killing us, and we won't be able to do anything by then.
Just keep your head down and hope they don't notice you.
 
2012-05-01 04:37:07 PM  

LordJiro: SkinnyHead: Ted Nugent gets investigated by federal agents after urging people to vote against Obama making an implied threat against the President of the United States, and the Army cancels his performance to retaliate against him for expressing his views being a treasonous, untalented farkstick. Liberals applaud. No First Amendment rights government endorsement for him.

Occupy movement -- which is engaged in conspiracy "to shut down New York and cities across the country" and to blow up a bridge in Cleveland -- gets investigated. Liberals outraged. What about the First Amendment?

I thought the Occupiers were disorganized and had no structure or plan? And I thought that ,whenever a Teabagger does something racist/violent/stupid, it doesn't reflect on the whole movement (no matter how many 'isolated incidents' there are)?


Let me clear up your confusion. The Tea Party is known for orderly and lawful assemblies, with no disruptive behavior to speak of. The Occupy Movement, on the other hand, is known for criminal trespass, unlawful assemblies, vandalism, clashing with police, assaulting officers, arson, rioting in the streets and conspiracy to blow up a bridge in Cleveland. And still, the left tries to sell the narrative that the Tea Party is violent and the Occupy Movement is all law abiding and peaceful.
 
2012-05-01 04:38:59 PM  
Can we just all agree that it is time to nuke NYC and start over.

/Where's a Reaper when you need one?
 
2012-05-01 04:47:09 PM  

SkinnyHead: LordJiro: SkinnyHead: Ted Nugent gets investigated by federal agents after urging people to vote against Obama making an implied threat against the President of the United States, and the Army cancels his performance to retaliate against him for expressing his views being a treasonous, untalented farkstick. Liberals applaud. No First Amendment rights government endorsement for him.

Occupy movement -- which is engaged in conspiracy "to shut down New York and cities across the country" and to blow up a bridge in Cleveland -- gets investigated. Liberals outraged. What about the First Amendment?

I thought the Occupiers were disorganized and had no structure or plan? And I thought that ,whenever a Teabagger does something racist/violent/stupid, it doesn't reflect on the whole movement (no matter how many 'isolated incidents' there are)?

Let me clear up your confusion. The Tea Party is known for orderly and lawful assemblies, with no disruptive behavior to speak of. The Occupy Movement, on the other hand, is known for criminal trespass, unlawful assemblies, vandalism, clashing with police, assaulting officers, arson, rioting in the streets and conspiracy to blow up a bridge in Cleveland. And still, the left tries to sell the narrative that the Tea Party is violent and the Occupy Movement is all law abiding and peaceful.


Hi, can you point me to where you saw a Tea Party rally make headlines on the major news networks within the last month?
 
2012-05-01 04:48:01 PM  
You know something is indefensible when Skinnyhead has to resort to such blatant trolling he actually manages to break Poe's Law.
 
2012-05-01 04:52:33 PM  

KiplingKat872: KingPsyz: I do so love when people mistake freedom of expression with freedom from repercussions.

"Repercussions" should be public opinion, not harassment and arrest by the state. That is NOT Freedom of Speech, that is state-mandated censorship.


Selective quoting, how does it work?

I'll save you the time and just put the rest of my post back

Comparing early morning police raids against protestors doesn't even come within the same galaxy of The Nuge getting a knock from secret service for making threatening statements and the army declining to hire him for a performance afterwards.
 
2012-05-01 04:56:09 PM  

SkinnyHead: Let me clear up your confusion. The Tea Party is known for orderly and lawful assemblies, with no disruptive behavior to speak of.


Oh yeah, Teabaggers are never violent:

Link

Link

Link

And don't forget the carrying guns during rallies thing.
 
2012-05-01 04:57:27 PM  

KingPsyz: Comparing early morning police raids against protestors doesn't even come within the same galaxy of The Nuge getting a knock from secret service for making threatening statements and the army declining to hire him for a performance afterwards.


And my point remains the same. Trying to lessen this by relativism doesn't work. All these examples are equally wrong.
 
2012-05-01 04:57:36 PM  

SkinnyHead: The Tea Party is known for orderly and lawful assemblies, with no disruptive behavior to speak of.


No they're not.

They're known for being pig-ignorant racists who applaud violence and oppression against all who disagree with them.

The OWS crowd are known for being a bunch of imbecilic rebellious children who couldn't organize their way out of a wet paper bag.

Neither movement is known for anything positive except by people who are in them so deep they can't see the movement's shortcomings anymore. And what both groups are popularly known for are inaccurate, just to varying degrees of inaccuracy.

Something else to keep in mind is that the Tea Party is the ONLY group of people in the United States that is trusted less than atheists.
 
2012-05-01 05:01:56 PM  

Kome: They're known for being pig-ignorant racists who applaud violence and oppression against all who disagree with them.

The OWS crowd are known for being a bunch of imbecilic rebellious children who couldn't organize their way out of a wet paper bag.

Neither movement is known for anything positive except by people who are in them so deep they can't see the movement's shortcomings anymore. And what both groups are popularly known for are inaccurate, just to varying degrees of inaccuracy.


QFT.
 
2012-05-01 05:02:48 PM  

KiplingKat872: SkinnyHead: Let me clear up your confusion. The Tea Party is known for orderly and lawful assemblies, with no disruptive behavior to speak of.

Oh yeah, Teabaggers are never violent:

Link

Link

Link

And don't forget the carrying guns during rallies thing.


I don't think we'd see much difference in treatment if Teabaggers started holding non-permitted rallies, "occupying" places, taking to the streets and that sort of thing. Cops as stormtroopers for the corpo-fascist banking establishment makes for a good story but I think it's really an issue of how the demonstrations are organized. I don't think you'd see police visiting a rally organizer who planned a permitted demonstration outside city hall, for instance.
 
2012-05-01 05:07:13 PM  

skullkrusher: I don't think we'd see much difference in treatment if Teabaggers started holding non-permitted rallies, "occupying" places, taking to the streets and that sort of thing. Cops as stormtroopers for the corpo-fascist banking establishment makes for a good story but I think it's really an issue of how the demonstrations are organized. I don't think you'd see police visiting a rally organizer who planned a permitted demonstration outside city hall, for instance.


Nah, just the ones with no plans at all
 
2012-05-01 05:07:58 PM  

SkinnyHead: Ted Nugent gets investigated by federal agents after urging people to vote against Obama, and the Army cancels his performance to retaliate against him for expressing his views. Liberals applaud. No First Amendment rights for him.


He didn't get investigated because he urged people to vote against Obama, he got investigated because he used some violent-sounding language while urging people to vote against Obama. I thought it was a bullshiat investigation too, but the Secret Service makes house calls on these kinds of things all the time, and it usually results in nothing. Also, he didn't get arrested, or even the least bit harmed, so I fail to see how that infringed on his First Amendment rights.
 
2012-05-01 05:09:11 PM  

Philip Francis Queeg: skullkrusher: I don't think we'd see much difference in treatment if Teabaggers started holding non-permitted rallies, "occupying" places, taking to the streets and that sort of thing. Cops as stormtroopers for the corpo-fascist banking establishment makes for a good story but I think it's really an issue of how the demonstrations are organized. I don't think you'd see police visiting a rally organizer who planned a permitted demonstration outside city hall, for instance.

Nah, just the ones with no plans at all


?
 
2012-05-01 05:09:59 PM  

skullkrusher: KiplingKat872: SkinnyHead: Let me clear up your confusion. The Tea Party is known for orderly and lawful assemblies, with no disruptive behavior to speak of.

Oh yeah, Teabaggers are never violent:

Link

Link

Link

And don't forget the carrying guns during rallies thing.

I don't think we'd see much difference in treatment if Teabaggers started holding non-permitted rallies, "occupying" places, taking to the streets and that sort of thing. Cops as stormtroopers for the corpo-fascist banking establishment makes for a good story but I think it's really an issue of how the demonstrations are organized. I don't think you'd see police visiting a rally organizer who planned a permitted demonstration outside city hall, for instance.


The Teabaggers were protesting against President Obama. OWS is protesting against the banks.

President Obama did nothing to stop the Teabaggers. The banks made a generous "donation" to the NYPD just a few hours before they started cracking down on the protesters.

Look up all the instances of cops macing protesters and throwing hand grenades at veterans.
 
2012-05-01 05:10:27 PM  
Now the NYPD is provoking them. This summer could get interesting.

I wonder what an average midwestern conservative thinks when he sees OWS... Does he side with the 99% or the 1% that owns his mortgage, debts, and future.
 
2012-05-01 05:10:28 PM  

skullkrusher: I don't think we'd see much difference in treatment if Teabaggers started holding non-permitted rallies,


You think they have permits to carry at their rallies? You think it is legal to threaten the life of the president and elected representatives?

And sit-down strikes have a *very* long history (hell the mutiny in Spithead in 1797 was a sit down strike where sailors "occupied" the ships of the Royal Navy fleet and refused to move), so blaming the difference in media coverage on the technique is B.S.. The Tea Party supports the cooperate conservative status quo, so they get away with more shiat while being idolized by Faux news.
 
2012-05-01 05:11:49 PM  

Weaver95: the GOP liter land shills are crapping their pants on this one. the meme they've been pushing is that OWS is both weak/disorganized AND strong/organized terrorists. when confronted, they've just been changing the subject.

I wonder how our shills will spin this one? this isn't exactly the actions of a smaller, less intrusive government after all. granted, our local authoritarians are gonna read this story and start masturbating furiously before they've even reached the end of the page...but anyone who's actually in favor of the 1st amendment is gonna have trouble reconciling the actions of these cops with the ideal of a free and open society. this sort of intimidation is third world kelptocracy stuff, not what the US is supposed to represent!


Actually 99 percent of the country doesn't give a fark today. Besides, if they become too powerful, Obama and Bloomberg will remove some of them. Then they will all vote for Obama like the puppets they are. Some in Russia still look fondly of Stalin, even as his police took away their relatives. Useful idiots. But what has changed really?
 
2012-05-01 05:13:11 PM  

King Something: The Teabaggers were protesting against President Obama. OWS is protesting against the banks.


correct

King Something: The banks made a generous "donation" to the NYPD just a few hours before they started cracking down on the protesters.


citation?

King Something: Look up all the instances of cops macing protesters and throwing hand grenades at veterans.


I am well aware of them. Police brutality is inexcusable.
 
2012-05-01 05:14:33 PM  

skullkrusher: Philip Francis Queeg: skullkrusher: I don't think we'd see much difference in treatment if Teabaggers started holding non-permitted rallies, "occupying" places, taking to the streets and that sort of thing. Cops as stormtroopers for the corpo-fascist banking establishment makes for a good story but I think it's really an issue of how the demonstrations are organized. I don't think you'd see police visiting a rally organizer who planned a permitted demonstration outside city hall, for instance.

Nah, just the ones with no plans at all

?


FTFA:

"They asked what I was doing tomorrow, and if I knew of any activities, any events-that was how the conversation started," Dempster said. Dempster said he's not planning doing much, as his case from February is still open. Dempster's roommate was also asked about him and May Day.
 
2012-05-01 05:15:13 PM  

wildcardjack: I wonder what an average midwestern conservative thinks when he sees OWS... Does he side with the 99% or the 1% that owns his mortgage, debts, and future.


That was a rhetorical question, right?
 
2012-05-01 05:16:48 PM  

skullkrusher: King Something: The banks made a generous "donation" to the NYPD just a few hours before they started cracking down on the protesters.

citation?


$4.6 million and Jamie Dimon was the bagman.
 
2012-05-01 05:16:50 PM  

KiplingKat872: You think they have permits to carry at their rallies?


yes, I think tea party rallies are permitted. Do you know that they are not? Specifically in NYC preferably since this is the compare we're trying to do.

KiplingKat872: You think it is legal to threaten the life of the president and elected representatives?


of course it is not

KiplingKat872: And sit-down strikes have a *very* long history (hell the mutiny in Spithead in 1797 was a sit down strike where sailors "occupied" the ships of the Royal Navy fleet and refused to move), so blaming the difference in media coverage on the technique is B.S..


who's talking about media coverage?

KiplingKat872: The Tea Party supports the cooperate conservative status quo, so they get away with more shiat while being idolized by Faux news.


yes, I understand your assertion. However, I think if the tea parties were instead masses of Ron Paul supporters agitating in the streets in impromptu rallies for libertarian heaven using methods similar to OWS, they would be met with the same sort of treatment. I don't see any compelling evidence that this is not a viable explanation for the difference.
 
2012-05-01 05:17:10 PM  

KiplingKat872: KingPsyz: Comparing early morning police raids against protestors doesn't even come within the same galaxy of The Nuge getting a knock from secret service for making threatening statements and the army declining to hire him for a performance afterwards.

And my point remains the same. Trying to lessen this by relativism doesn't work. All these examples are equally wrong.


No they're not...

Making threatening statements regardling violence or murder towards the President is going to get you a visit from secret service to a)find out if it's a credible threat and b)remind said person inciting violence is also frowned upon. Likely done mid-day and The Nuge knew they were coming well ahead of time.

VS

6am raid by the NYPD because you think it's farked up that 1% of our nation pulls the strings for all of us and excercise your constitutional right to peacefuly assemble.
 
2012-05-01 05:18:36 PM  

imontheinternet: skullkrusher: King Something: The banks made a generous "donation" to the NYPD just a few hours before they started cracking down on the protesters.

citation?

$4.6 million and Jamie Dimon was the bagman.


2010 is thousands of hours before the crackdown. Also before OWS Part I
 
2012-05-01 05:19:59 PM  

Philip Francis Queeg: skullkrusher: Philip Francis Queeg: skullkrusher: I don't think we'd see much difference in treatment if Teabaggers started holding non-permitted rallies, "occupying" places, taking to the streets and that sort of thing. Cops as stormtroopers for the corpo-fascist banking establishment makes for a good story but I think it's really an issue of how the demonstrations are organized. I don't think you'd see police visiting a rally organizer who planned a permitted demonstration outside city hall, for instance.

Nah, just the ones with no plans at all

?

FTFA:

"They asked what I was doing tomorrow, and if I knew of any activities, any events-that was how the conversation started," Dempster said. Dempster said he's not planning doing much, as his case from February is still open. Dempster's roommate was also asked about him and May Day.


ah, doesn't really change anything in terms of causes for the differences in police investigation and treatment
 
2012-05-01 05:21:17 PM  

skullkrusher: imontheinternet: skullkrusher: King Something: The banks made a generous "donation" to the NYPD just a few hours before they started cracking down on the protesters.

citation?

$4.6 million and Jamie Dimon was the bagman.

2010 is thousands of hours before the crackdown. Also before OWS Part I


The "hours before" thing was probably just hyperbole, but the banks have definitely paid off the NYPD.
 
2012-05-01 05:21:56 PM  
OWS: Corporations corrupt government
Tea Part: Governemnt is corrupt

Why is it that these folks can't find common ground? Too many hippies and Skinnyheads in the world :(
 
2012-05-01 05:23:06 PM  

Citrate1007: OWS: Corporations corrupt government
Tea Part: Governemnt is corrupt

Why is it that these folks can't find common ground? Too many hippies and Skinnyheads in the world :(


you'd think so. I think there's too much other attendant baggage associated with both for either to embrace the other though
 
2012-05-01 05:23:46 PM  

skullkrusher: Philip Francis Queeg: skullkrusher: Philip Francis Queeg: skullkrusher: I don't think we'd see much difference in treatment if Teabaggers started holding non-permitted rallies, "occupying" places, taking to the streets and that sort of thing. Cops as stormtroopers for the corpo-fascist banking establishment makes for a good story but I think it's really an issue of how the demonstrations are organized. I don't think you'd see police visiting a rally organizer who planned a permitted demonstration outside city hall, for instance.

Nah, just the ones with no plans at all

?

FTFA:

"They asked what I was doing tomorrow, and if I knew of any activities, any events-that was how the conversation started," Dempster said. Dempster said he's not planning doing much, as his case from February is still open. Dempster's roommate was also asked about him and May Day.

ah, doesn't really change anything in terms of causes for the differences in police investigation and treatment


You know that there are permits for today's protest don't you?

How often does the NYPD break in on Tea Party supporters who have no plans to participate in a scheduled, permitted protest?
 
2012-05-01 05:26:18 PM  

imontheinternet: skullkrusher: imontheinternet: skullkrusher: King Something: The banks made a generous "donation" to the NYPD just a few hours before they started cracking down on the protesters.

citation?

$4.6 million and Jamie Dimon was the bagman.

2010 is thousands of hours before the crackdown. Also before OWS Part I

The "hours before" thing was probably just hyperbole, but the banks have definitely paid off the NYPD.


hehe it does look funny
 
2012-05-01 05:27:24 PM  

Arkanaut: SkinnyHead: Ted Nugent gets investigated by federal agents after urging people to vote against Obama, and the Army cancels his performance to retaliate against him for expressing his views. Liberals applaud. No First Amendment rights for him.

He didn't get investigated because he urged people to vote against Obama, he got investigated because he used some violent-sounding language while urging people to vote against Obama. I thought it was a bullshiat investigation too, but the Secret Service makes house calls on these kinds of things all the time, and it usually results in nothing. Also, he didn't get arrested, or even the least bit harmed, so I fail to see how that infringed on his First Amendment rights.


Cancellation of Nugent's performance to retaliate against him for expressing political views was the part that violated the First Amendment. I was told by many Farkers that Nugent had no First Amendment rights because his speech was so threatening that it went beyond the First Amendment. If his "violent-sounding language" is unprotected by the First Amendment, how can they claim that actually violent protest (the kind that OWS does) is protected by the First Amendment.
 
2012-05-01 05:28:36 PM  

Philip Francis Queeg: You know that there are permits for today's protest don't you?


no I hadn't heard, which specifically?

Philip Francis Queeg: How often does the NYPD break in on Tea Party supporters who have no plans to participate in a scheduled, permitted protest?


that's the question - how many tea party supporters have organized "illegal occupations" in the past?
 
2012-05-01 05:30:53 PM  
 
2012-05-01 05:32:11 PM  
Personally I support the Equalists.
 
2012-05-01 05:38:11 PM  

SkinnyHead: Cancellation of Nugent's performance to retaliate against him for expressing political views was the part that violated the First Amendment.


O_o?

You must have a delusional idea of what the first amendment actually says. He was not abridged his right to speak. The only thing that changed was who was willing to give him a platform to speak. Even the army is under no obligation to give any person a platform to speak if they don't want to hear it. The first amendment doesn't give the right to an audience, just the right to speak. Whoever chooses to listen is up to the individual, not the government. But it's nice that you would restrict that freedom of our troops if given the opportunity.
 
2012-05-01 05:38:40 PM  

skullkrusher: Philip Francis Queeg: You know that there are permits for today's protest don't you?

no I hadn't heard, which specifically?



Once again, ignorance is your shield.

Asked how the NYPD is preparing for the May Day activities, Deputy Commissioner Paul J. Browne said, "[t]he NYPD accommodates lawful protest, and arrests those who break the law." He continued: "Some OWS elements have proposed unlawful activity, but the labor umbrella group seeking a permit for a march and rally has attracted thousands of lawful participants to similar events over the past seven years." (Large banks that expect to be targets of renewed protests in May have taken matters into their own hands, reportedly banding together to gather intelligence on the movement and track protesters. )

skullkrusher: Philip Francis Queeg: How often does the NYPD break in on Tea Party supporters who have no plans to participate in a scheduled, permitted protest?

that's the question - how many tea party supporters have organized "illegal occupations" in the past?



And what evidence do you have that the guy the cops broke in on had organized "illegal occupations"?

So, Skull was your Dad busy yesterday intimidating threats to society like the guy in the article?
 
2012-05-01 05:40:47 PM  

wildcardjack: Now the NYPD is provoking them. This summer could get interesting.

I wonder what an average midwestern conservative thinks when he sees OWS... Does he side with the 99% or the 1% that owns his mortgage, debts, and future.


The answer for that is pretty obvious... he sides with whomever Fox News, Glenn Beck, Sean Hannity, and Rush Limbaugh tell him to side with.

... and Jesus.
 
2012-05-01 05:42:02 PM  
what ain't no county i ever heard of. they speak english in what?
 
2012-05-01 05:42:30 PM  
deus-ex-machinima.net

/oblig

PonceAlyosha: Personally I support the Equalists.


And what do you have against benders, eh? Especially when the Equalists' leader is himself a practitioner of Jerk-Bending?
 
2012-05-01 05:43:46 PM  

SkinnyHead: Arkanaut: SkinnyHead: Ted Nugent gets investigated by federal agents after urging people to vote against Obama, and the Army cancels his performance to retaliate against him for expressing his views. Liberals applaud. No First Amendment rights for him.

He didn't get investigated because he urged people to vote against Obama, he got investigated because he used some violent-sounding language while urging people to vote against Obama. I thought it was a bullshiat investigation too, but the Secret Service makes house calls on these kinds of things all the time, and it usually results in nothing. Also, he didn't get arrested, or even the least bit harmed, so I fail to see how that infringed on his First Amendment rights.

Cancellation of Nugent's performance to retaliate against him for expressing political views was the part that violated the First Amendment. I was told by many Farkers that Nugent had no First Amendment rights because his speech was so threatening that it went beyond the First Amendment. If his "violent-sounding language" is unprotected by the First Amendment, how can they claim that actually violent protest (the kind that OWS does) is protected by the First Amendment.


The First Amendment doesn't guarantee that any yahoo gets to perform for the US armed forces. Just as radio stations have the right to pull Dixie Chicks songs after they made controversial comments, whoever does the program scheduling for the Army gets to pull their invites to performers for their own reasons. Also, I made no comment supporting violent protests or OWS.
 
2012-05-01 05:43:50 PM  

Philip Francis Queeg: Once again, ignorance is your shield.


actually I am happy to have more information. See, that's how we differ. You ignore things. You are a clown.

Philip Francis Queeg: Asked how the NYPD is preparing for the May Day activities, Deputy Commissioner Paul J. Browne said, "[t]he NYPD accommodates lawful protest, and arrests those who break the law." He continued: "Some OWS elements have proposed unlawful activity, but the labor umbrella group seeking a permit for a march and rally has attracted thousands of lawful participants to similar events over the past seven years." (Large banks that expect to be targets of renewed protests in May have taken matters into their own hands, reportedly banding together to gather intelligence on the movement and track protesters. )


see why you dumb?

Philip Francis Queeg: And what evidence do you have that the guy the cops broke in on had organized "illegal occupations"?


I don't aside from his pending court case for assaulting a cop and inciting a riot. Other than that, I don't know much about him. Seems weird to just pick that guy for no reason, huh?

Philip Francis Queeg: So, Skull was your Dad busy yesterday intimidating threats to society like the guy in the article?


my dad retired many, many years ago. Are you 17? I sure hope so.
 
2012-05-01 05:48:46 PM  

skullkrusher: Philip Francis Queeg: And what evidence do you have that the guy the cops broke in on had organized "illegal occupations"?

I don't aside from his pending court case for assaulting a cop and inciting a riot. Other than that, I don't know much about him. Seems weird to just pick that guy for no reason, huh?


Seems weird for the Police to have broken into the home of any guy to intimidate him from taking part in a legal protest on the basis a six year old warrant for his roommate, doesn't it?
 
2012-05-01 05:50:07 PM  

BMulligan: lennavan: You'd think something like this could bring the two sides together to get some sort of change. I mean, I think the tea party is stupid as fark but if they started busting down doors of the tea party organizers doing this shiat, I'd think it was just as ridiculous.

The difference is that they, you, I, and everyone else knows that will never happen.


The difference is that they know OWS isn't above using violence.
 
2012-05-01 05:50:38 PM  

Spaced Lion: [deus-ex-machinima.net image 396x303]

/oblig

PonceAlyosha: Personally I support the Equalists.

And what do you have against benders, eh? Especially when the Equalists' leader is himself a practitioner of Jerk-Bending?


1. The government of Republic City is anti-democratic in the extreme and offers no representation to nonbenders. 20% of its legislative authority represents the FIVE PEOPLE in the air tribe. It'd be like if we just gave a seat in congress to every ethnic group and called it a day.

2. In the latest episode we see that Amon's pretty much right. Chi blocking should be a protected right the same way bending is. Benders are actually oppressing non-benders.

It doesn't mean Amon isn't a douche, but he's right.

/and also Koh stole his face.
 
2012-05-01 05:50:40 PM  

lennavan: You'd think something like this could bring the two sides together to get some sort of change. I mean, I think the tea party is stupid as fark but if they started busting down doors of the tea party organizers doing this shiat, I'd think it was just as ridiculous.


The Tea Party, or at least one branch of it, has worked, on a limited basis with Occupy Atlanta: specifically to help stop a law attacking free speech - the right to protest. It was intended to target Occupy Atlanta and the Unions. I could be very wrong, but, as I understand it, some rep from Occupy Atlanta contacted the head of the Tea Party, they recognized a threat to a constitutional right and came through.

I'm thinking of attending a meeting at some point. I know longer trust what I read about the Tea Party in the press. If they are portrayed as accurately as the Occupy movement has been portrayed, they might well be extremely reasonable people. It would be interesting to find out that the Tea Party and the Occupy movements agree on 9 out 10 issues. I'm not necessarily predicting that would be true, but it would be interesting.
 
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