Yanks_RSJ: LineNoise: Weaver95:
you guys are aware that the violence at the OWS protests came from the cops, right? they were peaceful up to the point when someone started lobbing tea gas into their protest march.

Actually as someone who had these idiots camped out infront of their office for a few months last year, OWS spent their time goading and instigating the cops, who showed what I thought to be surprising restraint, considering they had a giant farking encampment that was breaking the law right infront of them.

You can hardly expect Weaver95 to actually know what's going on with OWS, he'd have to leave his computer and actually show up for that to happen. Much easier to sit on the sidelines, let other people do the work and just make baseless comments about the success of the movement.

Weaver95 also keeps claiming that people in power are scared/terrified of OWS. I don't think he knows what those words mean.

Oh look, it's May Day. Must be time for the anarchists communists OWS anarchists to attention whore again.

At the rate they bring discredit to labels they apply to themselves, they should probably take the day off to come up with some new labels.

Weaver95: EWreckedSean:

Really want to compare violence at Tea Parties versus OWS?

sure! lemme start:

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Weaponized tear gas? This is opposed to the peaceful kind of tear gas?

jennies1897: Why does it not occur to occupiers that the only way to change things is to get jobs in these places and TRY to change things? Maybe take a look at what kind of effort this really is?

Would you get a job at a whorehouse because you think prostitution is wrong? Who taught you to think? Wall St is a gang of thieves and scoundrels with entitlement issues. Joining them isn't going to change that.

84Charlie: Yanks_RSJ: LineNoise: Weaver95:
you guys are aware that the violence at the OWS protests came from the cops, right? they were peaceful up to the point when someone started lobbing tea gas into their protest march.

Actually as someone who had these idiots camped out infront of their office for a few months last year, OWS spent their time goading and instigating the cops, who showed what I thought to be surprising restraint, considering they had a giant farking encampment that was breaking the law right infront of them.

You can hardly expect Weaver95 to actually know what's going on with OWS, he'd have to leave his computer and actually show up for that to happen. Much easier to sit on the sidelines, let other people do the work and just make baseless comments about the success of the movement.

Weaver95 also keeps claiming that people in power are scared/terrified of OWS. I don't think he knows what those words mean.

They are scared. Tea Party was created by Dick Army and other lobbyists to get blue collar voters to vote republican by appealing to knee jerk issues like taxes (even though the bush tax cuts have and are still in place). However they misjudged how badly informed their own base is and making it much harder for the republican machine to control christian right. OWS is a real reactionary movement not belonging to any political party. There are anti Obama and Wall Street signs down there.

KoWT: jennies1897: Why does it not occur to occupiers that the only way to change things is to get jobs in these places and TRY to change things? Maybe take a look at what kind of effort this really is?

Would you get a job at a whorehouse because you think prostitution is wrong? Who taught you to think? Wall St is a gang of thieves and scoundrels with entitlement issues. Joining them isn't going to change that.

except for those of us who aren't of course...

sufferpuppet: Weaver95: EWreckedSean:

Really want to compare violence at Tea Parties versus OWS?

sure! lemme start:

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Weaponized tear gas? This is opposed to the peaceful kind of tear gas?

If just shows you how much people like Weaver seem to be afraid, very afraid. Oh and don't forget that the police used "blockades" OMG. Panic. Remember it was the blockades during the Cuban missile crisis (a dem btw) that almost started a nuclear war!!

Panic!!

Franco: 84Charlie: Yanks_RSJ: LineNoise: Weaver95:
you guys are aware that the violence at the OWS protests came from the cops, right? they were peaceful up to the point when someone started lobbing tea gas into their protest march.

Actually as someone who had these idiots camped out infront of their office for a few months last year, OWS spent their time goading and instigating the cops, who showed what I thought to be surprising restraint, considering they had a giant farking encampment that was breaking the law right infront of them.

You can hardly expect Weaver95 to actually know what's going on with OWS, he'd have to leave his computer and actually show up for that to happen. Much easier to sit on the sidelines, let other people do the work and just make baseless comments about the success of the movement.

Weaver95 also keeps claiming that people in power are scared/terrified of OWS. I don't think he knows what those words mean.

They are scared. Tea Party was created by Dick Army and other lobbyists to get blue collar voters to vote republican by appealing to knee jerk issues like taxes (even though the bush tax cuts have and are still in place). However they misjudged how badly informed their own base is and making it much harder for the republican machine to control christian right. OWS is a real reactionary movement not belonging to any political party. There are anti Obama and Wall Street signs down there.

Can I buy some pot from you?

This was the most biased POS I have ever read in my life.

tenpoundsofcheese: Weaver95: Rev. Skarekroe: I have a hunch this attempt at a protest will flop big time.

it's already succeeded. it's made powerful people absolutely terrified laugh their asses off.

ftfy.

I can't believe I agree with you but I do. Those with the money and power aren't scared of OWS because they can and will buy out the those that could fix it.

Weaver95: EWreckedSean:

Really want to compare violence at Tea Parties versus OWS?

sure! lemme start:

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If tea partiers acted like OWS protesters, it would look exactly the same. The difference is the partiers understand the concept of "peaceable assembly". OWS Protesters don't.

jennies1897: KoWT: jennies1897: Why does it not occur to occupiers that the only way to change things is to get jobs in these places and TRY to change things? Maybe take a look at what kind of effort this really is?

Would you get a job at a whorehouse because you think prostitution is wrong? Who taught you to think? Wall St is a gang of thieves and scoundrels with entitlement issues. Joining them isn't going to change that.

If I recall correctly, it isn't only Wall Street that is being protested. It's all "big business" and greed, that's why it's happening in more places than NYC. Speaking as someone who has worked in the infrastructure of "big businesses", I can say there are people who care and there are people who don't.

The change you speak of comes from within. All I'm saying is that maybe you might want to try to fill those shoes you're demanding everyone else fill for you. So yea, apparently I would work at a whorehouse to protest prostitution.

Or, gasp, campaign for local office to attempt to get to higher office.

But that requires them to actually think and stand out as an individual instead of mindlessly and safely droning as one of the crowd.

Lulz.

I'm not downtown today, so I can't see the dorks wearing bandanas over their faces for absolutely no reason.

Whatever happened to that female Chicago Occutard that used to hang around fark?

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Wiggle fingers up for the Haymarket Bombing.

KoWT: Rule of thumb: Most of the folks deriding protest movements these days are cryptofascist authoritarian chitbirds. Never mind that the banksters are riding our nation off a cliff, eh? You have a job and a home, so you're set. Everyone else can rot. Zero sum idjits who know not what they do. Greed is in ascension in this country. I only wish the protest movements were what ails us. You'd make better Russians than you do Americans.

"Don't like it? Leave."

Uh, how's about YOU pack up and take your happy ass on out of here. The rest of us are exercising our rights. If that makes you uncomfortable, then *you* need to remove yourself from the situation.

/general "you"

RedPhoenix122: Yes, because making fun of people for being hatemongers = bullying.

Yeah, because it's hip and fun to call people hatemongers because they don't agree with you.

Weaver95: not to mention the fact that in this thread alone, you've mocked the OWS protests for being weak, disorganized and powerless AND at the same time, you accused them of being smart, organized and terrorists. so which is it? OWS can't be both weak AND strong at the same time.

You're right. "Smart", "Organized" and "OWS" are 3 things that don't belong in the same sentence with each other.

So I'm going with OWS == weak.

tommydee: RedPhoenix122: Yes, because making fun of people for being hatemongers = bullying.

Yeah, because it's hip and fun to call people hatemongers because they don't agree with you.

... or because they're mongering hate. Either/or.

Okay, a few dozen of the 'occupy' froot loops just marched down Michigan Ave here in Detroit.

NOW things are going to change.

// Cops didn't look super-scared though.

brobdiggy: How the hell can these people afford to protest all the time and not work? Especially while living in NYC? Something tells me that they're all actually a bunch of liberal-hippie-live-off-my-trust-fund types.

The Scott Walker protests, last spring, had me wondering the same thing. How can people protest all day, every day for a month without getting fired?

x Mogwai x: They've doubled down on their police presence, and are coordinating with area banks with major video surveilence. For a farking "hippy drum circle". So either OWS is being falsly portrayed as "Hippies" and the police are actually scared something could go down. Or it could be to intimidate others to not get involved and to "Just move along Citizen". Either way, yes, the police are scared happy to wield power and use force against those different from them/ excited to kick the asses of those who won't fight back / totally into any forceful actions that can be construed as upholding public safety and the well-being of "normal working family-types" / cops in the first place for just this sort of legallized bullying.

The cops are most certainly not scared in the slightest; they're a gang of protected thugs just happy to kick ass with no recourse. Cops are some of the least scared people out there (as I might be if I was as protected as them).

My favorite is the misquoted cardboard sign. That is the perfect visual analogy of the occupy movement: good idea, poor execution.

NationalHero: x Mogwai x: They've doubled down on their police presence, and are coordinating with area banks with major video surveilence. For a farking "hippy drum circle". So either OWS is being falsly portrayed as "Hippies" and the police are actually scared something could go down. Or it could be to intimidate others to not get involved and to "Just move along Citizen". Either way, yes, the police are scared happy to wield power and use force against those different from them/ excited to kick the asses of those who won't fight back / totally into any forceful actions that can be construed as upholding public safety and the well-being of "normal working family-types" / cops in the first place for just this sort of legallized bullying.

The cops are most certainly not scared in the slightest; they're a gang of protected thugs just happy to kick ass with no recourse. Cops are some of the least scared people out there (as I might be if I was as protected as them).

B-b-but why won't people take us seriously?

Maybe it's me, but I'm Ok with the fact that Occupy didn't get sucked into the DNC the way the Tea Party got pulled into the GOP.

It speaks better of them that they're sticking to their guns, rather than just becoming a new label on the same old party politics.
Sure, they could have got better turn-out if they played the usual political games and had the benefit of professional organizers and handlers.

But who the hell wants that? Without OWS, this election would probably still be about the deficit.

Unimpressive turnouts still generating headlines about corporate malfeasance, unprosecuted crimes, debt, education and money in politics is a hell of a lot better than well-attended rallies creating headlines about Afghanistan, Gitmo, Gun Control and who-the-fark-cares what else. The Tea Party, in the most generous interpretation, absolutely sold out their push against cronyism, "too big to fail" and the erosion of personal liberty in exchange for some stab at 'legitimacy'. And all they have to show for it is their name affixed to unrelated god-bothering bullshiat.

PeterPipersPickledPecker: jdmac: RedPhoenix122: jdmac: It is funny how many people who use the term teabagger, a sexual slur meant to stigmatize a whole group of people, who claim to be anti-bullying as well. It is like rain on a wedding day, a free ride when you are already late...

Yes, because making fun of people for being hatemongers = bullying.

OK, so it is ok to use sexual slurs to denigrate a whole group of people as long as you do not agree with their politics. Gottacha. Just wanted to get the rules straight. So do only liberals get this exception when attacking their political opponents or is this something all people of all political views can invoke when trying to intimidate those they disagree with to shut up?

Shut the hell up, you flaming pussy fart.

Ah, open minded tolerant liberalism on display. Thank you for raising the level of discourse in this country. Just a recommendation, next time you might just want to call my a "dooty-head", it carries just as much intellectual weight and is at least one or two grades ahead on the maturity scale. Keep up the good work, you do Occupy proud.

Lets hope the secret service isn't there.

http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=7SGWH3kirzg&vq=medium

Weaver95: EWreckedSean:

Really want to compare violence at Tea Parties versus OWS?

sure! lemme start:

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"Weaponized Tear Gas?" As opposed to what? Happy fun-time tear gas?

Rest assured, #Occupiers, that most of the working people in whose interests you say you are protesting find your antics detestable. Nobody likes getting caught in a traffic jam caused by protesters after spending a day on their feet working for a living.

Clowns.

ProfessorOhki: Weaver95: EWreckedSean:

Really want to compare violence at Tea Parties versus OWS?

sure! lemme start:

[different-kitchen.com image 640x430]

"Weaponized Tear Gas?" As opposed to what? Happy fun-time tear gas?

And OMG, I can't believe that the police used "BARRICADES" OMG, why isn't there a human rights commission looking into this....OMG....

Oh wait, Weaver said "BARRICADES" I read it as BARRACUDAS".

My bad.
I thought the police were attacking protesters with vicious fish.

tenpoundsofcheese: ProfessorOhki: Weaver95: EWreckedSean:

Really want to compare violence at Tea Parties versus OWS?

sure! lemme start:

[different-kitchen.com image 640x430]

"Weaponized Tear Gas?" As opposed to what? Happy fun-time tear gas?

And OMG, I can't believe that the police used "BARRICADES" OMG, why isn't there a human rights commission looking into this....OMG....

Oh wait, Weaver said "BARRICADES" I read it as BARRACUDAS".

My bad.
I thought the police were attacking protesters with vicious fish.

I thought they were running them over with muscle cars... while listening to Heart

The My Little Pony Killer: KoWT: Rule of thumb: Most of the folks deriding protest movements these days are cryptofascist authoritarian chitbirds. Never mind that the banksters are riding our nation off a cliff, eh? You have a job and a home, so you're set. Everyone else can rot. Zero sum idjits who know not what they do. Greed is in ascension in this country. I only wish the protest movements were what ails us. You'd make better Russians than you do Americans.

"Don't like it? Leave."

Uh, how's about YOU pack up and take your happy ass on out of here. The rest of us are exercising our rights. If that makes you uncomfortable, then *you* need to remove yourself from the situation.

/general "you"

Poorly placed rejoinder. I was comparing the reaction here to Russian corporate tsar greedheads. I wasn't banishing you to the tundra. Not yet, anyhow. More effort, please...

jennies1897: KoWT: jennies1897: Why does it not occur to occupiers that the only way to change things is to get jobs in these places and TRY to change things? Maybe take a look at what kind of effort this really is?

Would you get a job at a whorehouse because you think prostitution is wrong? Who taught you to think? Wall St is a gang of thieves and scoundrels with entitlement issues. Joining them isn't going to change that.

If I recall correctly, it isn't only Wall Street that is being protested. It's all "big business" and greed, that's why it's happening in more places than NYC. Speaking as someone who has worked in the infrastructure of "big businesses", I can say there are people who care and there are people who don't.

The change you speak of comes from within. All I'm saying is that maybe you might want to try to fill those shoes you're demanding everyone else fill for you. So yea, apparently I would work at a whorehouse to protest prostitution.

I can't agree with that. I think our system is economically bankrupted and morally corrupted. The only thing propping it up is the acquiescence and cooperation of good people. If you left these scoundrels to their own devices, they'd be gone in a flash of ego and ignorance. But noooo, you gotta have good people embedded amongst them, insulating the wastrels from their just deserved economic ruin. The sooner we crash this bankster/government cabal, the sooner we can build something economically that works again. We don't need mega banks with overpaid management. At all.
/rant

KoWT: jennies1897: KoWT: jennies1897: Why does it not occur to occupiers that the only way to change things is to get jobs in these places and TRY to change things? Maybe take a look at what kind of effort this really is?

Would you get a job at a whorehouse because you think prostitution is wrong? Who taught you to think? Wall St is a gang of thieves and scoundrels with entitlement issues. Joining them isn't going to change that.

If I recall correctly, it isn't only Wall Street that is being protested. It's all "big business" and greed, that's why it's happening in more places than NYC. Speaking as someone who has worked in the infrastructure of "big businesses", I can say there are people who care and there are people who don't.

The change you speak of comes from within. All I'm saying is that maybe you might want to try to fill those shoes you're demanding everyone else fill for you. So yea, apparently I would work at a whorehouse to protest prostitution.

I can't agree with that. I think our system is economically bankrupted and morally corrupted. The only thing propping it up is the acquiescence and cooperation of good people. If you left these scoundrels to their own devices, they'd be gone in a flash of ego and ignorance. But noooo, you gotta have good people embedded amongst them, insulating the wastrels from their just deserved economic ruin. The sooner we crash this bankster/government cabal, the sooner we can build something economically that works again. We don't need mega banks with overpaid management. At all.
/rant

I must disagree. Until you fix "stupid," the best you can hope for is a loop. Even if the entire banking industry falls and every one of them is unemployed, they will attempt to blame it on someone else. With enough advertising dollars behind that push, more and more people will believe them. Within a few years, everyone remembers how the economy failed because there weren't enough overpaid managers. Next thing you know, we're back where we were a year ago. Until you reduce the easily-swayed portion of society by educating them to the point where they can see through manipulation, there's no much hope.

If it's really true you "can't fix stupid," there's always going to be a substantial block of people who can be easily wielded by whoever is morally corrupt enough to do so. In that case, we're pretty screwed. The best we can do is gradually improve society and hope that by the time someone wants to destroy those improvements, the blob of loud people is entitled enough and loud enough to resist that change.

For example, if you announced today that you were going to create the Internet, they'd come after you before you got off the ground. But now? Now people are so reliant on their shiny things that practically everyone made a stink about "That SOAP thing congress was trying to do to wikipedia."

/Changes is best affected subliminally
//Because the harder you push
///the more they dig their heels in

KoWT: The My Little Pony Killer: KoWT: Rule of thumb: Most of the folks deriding protest movements these days are cryptofascist authoritarian chitbirds. Never mind that the banksters are riding our nation off a cliff, eh? You have a job and a home, so you're set. Everyone else can rot. Zero sum idjits who know not what they do. Greed is in ascension in this country. I only wish the protest movements were what ails us. You'd make better Russians than you do Americans.

"Don't like it? Leave."

Uh, how's about YOU pack up and take your happy ass on out of here. The rest of us are exercising our rights. If that makes you uncomfortable, then *you* need to remove yourself from the situation.

/general "you"

Poorly placed rejoinder. I was comparing the reaction here to Russian corporate tsar greedheads. I wasn't banishing you to the tundra. Not yet, anyhow. More effort, please...

I wasn't bashing you, genius.

I've noticed a large spike in the number of younger, white bums out panhandling for change by roadsides since the Occupy movement left town.

Funny, that.

tenpoundsofcheese:

I thought the police were attacking protesters with vicious fish.

And with that image, you made my night.

//and wrecked my keyboard

What an OWS'er may look like:


courtesy of: The Smoking Gun

Weaver95: EWreckedSean:

Really want to compare violence at Tea Parties versus OWS?

sure! lemme start:

Would you look at that.. They're sitting on a bench doing nothing. OWS is notorious for breaking laws while the tea partiers legally bring weapons and do nothing. Did you see Seattle yesterday, shattering windows and destroying private property. Illegally blocking public roads across the country.

You're right though, the cops should totally be called against people legally sitting on a bench with a gun.

The My Little Pony Killer: KoWT: The My Little Pony Killer: KoWT: Rule of thumb: Most of the folks deriding protest movements these days are cryptofascist authoritarian chitbirds. Never mind that the banksters are riding our nation off a cliff, eh? You have a job and a home, so you're set. Everyone else can rot. Zero sum idjits who know not what they do. Greed is in ascension in this country. I only wish the protest movements were what ails us. You'd make better Russians than you do Americans.

"Don't like it? Leave."

Uh, how's about YOU pack up and take your happy ass on out of here. The rest of us are exercising our rights. If that makes you uncomfortable, then *you* need to remove yourself from the situation.

/general "you"

Poorly placed rejoinder. I was comparing the reaction here to Russian corporate tsar greedheads. I wasn't banishing you to the tundra. Not yet, anyhow. More effort, please...

I wasn't bashing you, genius.

My bad... I thought maybe it was a kneejerk response to the use of the word "Russian"... Moving on...