CruJones: imdani2u: What is not understood by most people is that Native Americans' bodies are not designed to metabolize alcohol like the rest of us. This is a segment of our "society" that has been left out, forgotten about, and whenever there are racial issues going on, the Native Americans "should suck it up and stop whining"...in reference to the Chief Wahoo of the Cleveland Indians, among other things. African Americans complain about Aunt Jemima, the Uncle Ben's logo, why is this ok? Why is there a double standard against the people our ancestors stole this country from and damned near exterminated on a level way worse than the Holocaust? Yes I'm heated and proud Cherokee/Italian American.

Citation please.

/also, there has been plenty of "outrage" against Indian mascots. Most NCAA schools have already changed those mascots, though FSU actually has the backing of the Seminole tribe.

THE GENETICS OF ALCOHOL METABOLISM: ROLE OF ALCOHOL DEHYDROGENASE AND ALDEHYDE DEHYDROGENASE VARIANTS

Two seconds of google-fu. I figured this was common knowledge but I guess I shouldn't be surprised.

/Cut and Paste caps for the win
//Not really

WarszawaScream: imdani2u: What is not understood by most people is that Native Americans' bodies are not designed to metabolize alcohol like the rest of us. This is a segment of our "society" that has been left out, forgotten about, and whenever there are racial issues going on, the Native Americans "should suck it up and stop whining"...in reference to the Chief Wahoo of the Cleveland Indians, among other things. African Americans complain about Aunt Jemima, the Uncle Ben's logo, why is this ok? Why is there a double standard against the people our ancestors stole this country from and damned near exterminated on a level way worse than the Holocaust? Yes I'm heated and proud Cherokee/Italian American.

I ain't too pleased with Lucky the Leprochaun or that little Notre Dame farker either; they portray the Irish as greedy idiots who want to do nothing but fight. And don't forget about NINA! Alas, all we can do is drown our shame in whiskey and beer, and then punch people in the face when they talk shiat about our lucky charms.

Have you watched the documentary Knuckle? It's about Irish bare-knuckle boxing families. But they're really pikeys so you can look down on them from the drunken heights of your Irishdom.

/pinkish hue...irish descent...

Reverend J: CruJones: imdani2u: What is not understood by most people is that Native Americans' bodies are not designed to metabolize alcohol like the rest of us. This is a segment of our "society" that has been left out, forgotten about, and whenever there are racial issues going on, the Native Americans "should suck it up and stop whining"...in reference to the Chief Wahoo of the Cleveland Indians, among other things. African Americans complain about Aunt Jemima, the Uncle Ben's logo, why is this ok? Why is there a double standard against the people our ancestors stole this country from and damned near exterminated on a level way worse than the Holocaust? Yes I'm heated and proud Cherokee/Italian American.

Citation please.

/also, there has been plenty of "outrage" against Indian mascots. Most NCAA schools have already changed those mascots, though FSU actually has the backing of the Seminole tribe.

THE GENETICS OF ALCOHOL METABOLISM: ROLE OF ALCOHOL DEHYDROGENASE AND ALDEHYDE DEHYDROGENASE VARIANTS

Two seconds of google-fu. I figured this was common knowledge but I guess I shouldn't be surprised.

/Cut and Paste caps for the win
//Not really

Cannot find server....

Mark my words, before I die, Native Americans will have lost most of their protected status.

The internet and modern life is doing more to destroy what remains of the way of life and culture of these various tribes than any US government forced integration school ever did.

Works now. Weird...

2wolves

Europeans had a thousand years to weed out many, but not all, of those who can not handle alcohol.

How do you explain the Irish then? They're just genetically resilient due to them being on an Island. I think it mirrors Australia's deadly bugs. ;-)

Fano: Maybe they should run a number six on the people of Forest Ridge

Now, now, there ain't gonna be any raping the shiat out of any one at the Number Six War Dance.

2wolves: namegoeshere: 2wolves: WhippingBoy: And personal responsibility is officially dead.

Or genetic predisposition. Europeans had a thousand years to weed out many, but not all, of those who can not handle alcohol.

You have a genetic predisposition to obesity, heart disease, and type 2 diabetes. Feel free to down a deep fried cheesecake for breakfast every morning because it's not your fault - it's your destiny.

You make me feel all warm and huggy.

It's the cheesecake. Mmmmm...cheesecake...

imdani2u: What is not understood by most people is that Native Americans' bodies are not designed to metabolize alcohol like the rest of us. This is a segment of our "society" that has been left out, forgotten about, and whenever there are racial issues going on, the Native Americans "should suck it up and stop whining"...in reference to the Chief Wahoo of the Cleveland Indians, among other things. African Americans complain about Aunt Jemima, the Uncle Ben's logo, why is this ok? Why is there a double standard against the people our ancestors stole this country from and damned near exterminated on a level way worse than the Holocaust? Yes I'm heated and proud Cherokee/Italian American.

You're not running for the U.S. senate in MA are you?

Years ago, I lived in a tiny town in Castro County, Texas that had similar sales, in a town of 300 people there were 6 liquor stores.The surrounding counties were dry until you hit Lubbock. They sold so much beer that there were 3 semi loads of beer delivered to this little town a week, not including hard liquor sales. When there was a holiday weekend or special event, they brought 5 semi-truck loads of beer that week instead of three.

I was really cool to go into one of the stores and see a giant liquor display, a big tobacco counter, and a section of rifles and ammunition all in the same place!

WarszawaScream: And don't forget about NINA!

You mean the mythical "No Irish Need Apply"? Urban legend is just that: a legend.

j__z: 2wolves

Europeans had a thousand years to weed out many, but not all, of those who can not handle alcohol.

How do you explain the Irish then?

You can't explain the Irish. You just have to keep their glasses full and stay out of arm's reach.

The_Sponge: CruJones: Most NCAA schools have already changed those mascots,


Stanford: Hey, let's get rid of our Indian mascot and replace with with a tree that has Down Syndrome.

I thought you were kidding - then I GIS'ed. WTF is that thing?

Although... maybe s/he is on to something:

Yugoboy: sue (souix?) sudio

imdani2u: What is not understood by most people is that Native Americans' bodies are not designed to metabolize alcohol like the rest of us. This is a segment of our "society" that has been left out, forgotten about, and whenever there are racial issues going on, the Native Americans "should suck it up and stop whining"...in reference to the Chief Wahoo of the Cleveland Indians, among other things. African Americans complain about Aunt Jemima, the Uncle Ben's logo, why is this ok? Why is there a double standard against the people our ancestors stole this country from and damned near exterminated on a level way worse than the Holocaust? Yes I'm heated and proud Cherokee/Italian American.

then don't f'n drink, i'm sorry but its just that easy

How can we let this happen?

How?

if the stone age savages cant hold their boooze to farking bad boo farking hoo.
pick yourself up dust yourself off and make something of your life. or die quetly in a farking fire

j__z: 2wolves

Europeans had a thousand years to weed out many, but not all, of those who can not handle alcohol.

How do you explain the Irish then? They're just genetically resilient due to them being on an Island. I think it mirrors Australia's deadly bugs. ;-)

It actually has to do with cholera. Ya rly. Those who lived close together in cities without access to clean water drank beer. They naturally selected for being able to handle drinking beer.

Those such as Native Americans, who lived spread out and/or figured out early that shiatting in your drinking water is actually a pretty bad idea, didn't need to avoid water. So, no need to naturally select for the ability to drink beer.

Drew, obviously, is descended from the former.

Maybe they prefer the mouthwash.

tweek46420: imdani2u: What is not understood by most people is that Native Americans' bodies are not designed to metabolize alcohol like the rest of us. This is a segment of our "society" that has been left out, forgotten about, and whenever there are racial issues going on, the Native Americans "should suck it up and stop whining"...in reference to the Chief Wahoo of the Cleveland Indians, among other things. African Americans complain about Aunt Jemima, the Uncle Ben's logo, why is this ok? Why is there a double standard against the people our ancestors stole this country from and damned near exterminated on a level way worse than the Holocaust? Yes I'm heated and proud Cherokee/Italian American.

then don't f'n drink, i'm sorry but its just that easy

You've never met an addict, have you?

Trocadero: tweek46420: imdani2u: What is not understood by most people is that Native Americans' bodies are not designed to metabolize alcohol like the rest of us. This is a segment of our "society" that has been left out, forgotten about, and whenever there are racial issues going on, the Native Americans "should suck it up and stop whining"...in reference to the Chief Wahoo of the Cleveland Indians, among other things. African Americans complain about Aunt Jemima, the Uncle Ben's logo, why is this ok? Why is there a double standard against the people our ancestors stole this country from and damned near exterminated on a level way worse than the Holocaust? Yes I'm heated and proud Cherokee/Italian American.

then don't f'n drink, i'm sorry but its just that easy

You've never met an addict, have you?

i used to be one....guess what... i quit and don't touch the shiat that i was addicted to

/not alcohol

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: imdani2u:
Yes I'm heated and proud Cherokee/Italian American.

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'artistic conception of what a Cherokee/Italian American may look like'

"Leave the gun; take the bannock."

"Lucca Runing Bear sleeps with the fishes.'

ust doesn't have the same ring.

Trocadero: You've never met an addict, have you?

I come from a long line of 'em. But for each and every one, there was that first drink.

meat0918: Mark my words, before I die, Native Americans will have lost most of their protected status.

The internet and modern life is doing more to destroy what remains of the way of life and culture of these various tribes than any US government forced integration school ever did.

Not to mention the self inflicted wounds

Witchyman: This is why I won't be voting for Elizabeth Warren against Scott Brown. Native Americans seem to have some trouble with impulse control.

You can still vote for her, i hear she made it up so she could get a teaching job at harvard in the minority studies department... like that dick in Colorado a few years back.

okay, ban sales of alcohol to tribe members.
all you'll do is fuel a new moonshine industry. It's the farking badlands... plenty of places to hide a clandestine distillery.

your people have gone from drinking quality controlled and regulated beer, to drinking whatever comes out of some amateur's condenser.

White people have a genetic predispostion to skin cancer.

We should ban beaches.

The_Original_Roxtar: The tribe's attorney, Tom White, has said if the lawsuit is allowed to go forward, he also will argue Nebraska officials have failed to enforce their own laws by allowing beer sales that far surpass the amount that can be legally consumed.

dafuq?
they limit the amount an individual can consume?

Past a certain amount (and far past what would kill most folk) it probably counts as a suicide attempt. I'm just guessing though.

Reverend J: CruJones: imdani2u: What is not understood by most people is that Native Americans' bodies are not designed to metabolize alcohol like the rest of us. This is a segment of our "society" that has been left out, forgotten about, and whenever there are racial issues going on, the Native Americans "should suck it up and stop whining"...in reference to the Chief Wahoo of the Cleveland Indians, among other things. African Americans complain about Aunt Jemima, the Uncle Ben's logo, why is this ok? Why is there a double standard against the people our ancestors stole this country from and damned near exterminated on a level way worse than the Holocaust? Yes I'm heated and proud Cherokee/Italian American.

Citation please.

/also, there has been plenty of "outrage" against Indian mascots. Most NCAA schools have already changed those mascots, though FSU actually has the backing of the Seminole tribe.

THE GENETICS OF ALCOHOL METABOLISM: ROLE OF ALCOHOL DEHYDROGENASE AND ALDEHYDE DEHYDROGENASE VARIANTS

Two seconds of google-fu. I figured this was common knowledge but I guess I shouldn't be surprised.

/Cut and Paste caps for the win
//Not really

That is a good post, this is a good thread.

Still, nothing's going to stop this but having people start guarding their own. Posting watch outside the liquor stores, hunting down tribe members who consume, and tracking the paths of the bootleggers and folk who deal under the table. Stopping things at the source and the destination and treating the addiction of the large number of addicted.

Anonymocoso: White people have a genetic predispostion to skin cancer.

We should ban beaches.

No, go straight to the source... ban the sun

Can we blame the tobacco problem on the Indians then?

A new shot fired in the ongoing salvo of biggest number of Indians that someone can be "drunker than".

On payday.

And sales of hand sanitizer will go through the roof.

Also apple cider.

Indians weren't the brights of the bunch to begin with. Now inbreeding for generations has made them even worse.

The_Sponge: On the flipside, I don't think many tribes would like it if state governments tried to lobby the federal government for extra restrictions on tribal casinos....due to the fact that pale faces like me can have gambling addictions.

Came here to say THIS. Especially given the fact that this particular tribe has its own casino. And to remind folks the fact that Native Americans did introduce the world to tobacco which kills millions per year so you know, glass house-stones...

FTFA
"The findings suggest that it is unlikely that Native Americans carry a genetic variant that predisposes them to alcoholism. Certain variants of ADH and ADLH do have a protective affect against alcoholism in some Native American people; however, these findings do not explain the high incidence of alcoholism in the tribes that were studied."

You might want to find a citation that supports your argument, not refutes it.

That's only 2 beers a day for the nearwest reservation town, and .25/day for the reservation as a whole. Apparently them Injuns can't hold their liquor.

/to paraphrase an old racist saying.

2wolves: Anonymocoso: White people have a genetic predispostion to skin cancer.

We should ban beaches.

Why do Australians wear hats?

It's fashionable?

2wolves: Anonymocoso: White people have a genetic predispostion to skin cancer.

We should ban beaches.

Why do Australians wear hats?

Because it rains poisonous spiders down there.