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2012-05-01 01:30:27 PM  

Mrbogey: As this thread demonstrates, the ways that they avoid arguments is way more than "5".


Pick an argument with me. Let's go. I won't avoid it (but I am at work, so I might be slow to reply).
 
2012-05-01 01:30:39 PM  
Facts
Science
Nuance
Perspective
Compromise



or in Derp:
Elitism
Muslim-ism
Ram-down-our-throats-ism
Socialism
Destroying Democracy-ism
 
2012-05-01 01:31:08 PM  

thamike: Mrtraveler01: EyeballKid: Mrtraveler01: Why is it that once I saw that the headline and the fact it's from WaPo, I knew it was from Jonah Goldberg?

Republicans are used to functioning as a cult, so it's not such a big deal to work for a paper run by a cult leader.

Wrong paper.

Washington Post is the legit one. Washington Times is the one run by a loony cult leader.

It really disturbs me that someone got those two confused.


It's a little bit like linking a New York Times article and having someone comment "pfft... I don't read that Murdoch crap."

A little primer for novices:

New York: Times good, Post bad
Washington: Post good, Times bad

I admit it can be a little confusing.
 
2012-05-01 01:31:59 PM  

sweetmelissa31: And the symbol 0 came from India, which means that we would not be able to type "0bama" without multiculturalism.


so what you are saying is that diversity is, in fact, strength
 
2012-05-01 01:33:38 PM  
-Diversity is Strength

It is. Our nation is built upon the idea of all ideas, concepts, backgrounds, etc and has ensured we stay more dynamic, ever looking for the best way to complete a task, regardless of what the established tradition might espouse. One does not have this without a diverse population. And the food is always more fun this way.

-Violence Never Solved Anything

Oddly enough, violence often causes more problems than it will ever solve. That makes it the last resort, to be used in as surgical and precise a manner as possible. ObL Take-down vs Two Farking Wars.

-The Living Constitution

I like the Constitution. I truly do. I don't think one should hold it up as a somehow 'sacred' document, then start spouting nonsense about disenfranchising other citizens because they happen to be homosexual. Slavery, Universal Suffrage? Good to amend. Bad Gays/Lesbians? Not so good.

-Social Darwinism

It is the 'survival of the fittest' mentality applied to our day-to-day society. And it's abhorrent. Gov't has the obligation to care and protect its citizens, whether it's from outside attack or inequity within its own systems. Social Contract and all that.

-Better 10 Guilty Men Go Free...

Why yes, I do happen to hold to the guiding principles and ideals of our nation up higher than temporary retribution and vengeance. Why would you NOT hold principles up as... y'know, principles?

And I would rather not defend Goldberg's right to speak with my life. If that's the option. Just saying.
 
2012-05-01 01:34:23 PM  

Cythraul: FTA: 'Diversity is strength'

Is this person serious? I guess we better get back to good ol' Jim Crow.


I'm sure they could exclude more than 27.6% of the country if they really admitted who they admire...

pbh.pbhmedianetwork.netdna-cdn.com
 
2012-05-01 01:34:39 PM  

Super Chronic: thamike: Mrtraveler01: EyeballKid: Mrtraveler01: Why is it that once I saw that the headline and the fact it's from WaPo, I knew it was from Jonah Goldberg?

Republicans are used to functioning as a cult, so it's not such a big deal to work for a paper run by a cult leader.

Wrong paper.

Washington Post is the legit one. Washington Times is the one run by a loony cult leader.

It really disturbs me that someone got those two confused.

It's a little bit like linking a New York Times article and having someone comment "pfft... I don't read that Murdoch crap."

A little primer for novices:

New York: Times good, Post bad
Washington: Post good, Times bad

I admit it can be a little confusing.


The one way I can tell the difference between the Washington Times and Washington Post is that when you pick up the Times, you'd think you're reading a copy from the Reagan era, until you see the date at the top of the page and realize it's today's paper.
 
2012-05-01 01:34:45 PM  
These awful conservative greenlit articles are the reason I stopped paying the $5 a month for TotalFark.
 
2012-05-01 01:36:40 PM  

Jackson Herring: sweetmelissa31: And the symbol 0 came from India, which means that we would not be able to type "0bama" without multiculturalism.

so what you are saying is that diversity is, in fact, strength


BS. Does adding impurities, like carbon to iron strengthen it? NO. Does pressing sheets of different woods together strengthen it? NO.
 
2012-05-01 01:38:16 PM  

tinderboxer: I don't think this is really every made about putting people in jail, as much as it is when talking about the death penalty. Putting an innocent person in jail can be undone. Killing an innocent person cannot, and it more or less makes murderers of us all.


But the phrase itself is wrong. "Better 10 guilty men go free ..." really doesnt' work in the context of the death penalty. More like "Better 10 guilty men spend life in prison than kill an innocent man..." which actually works and yes I would believe in this.

It is so easy to twist a phrase nowadays, and conservatives are masters at the art. It's not 'government run healthcare', it's 'government takeover of health care.' It's not 'end of life counseling', it's 'death panels'. It's not the estate tax, it's the 'death tax'. And then you have all the word association demonization, which is really just hate speech rhetoric. I'm taking back liberal. Yes I'm liberal. Liberalism is the belief in liberty and equality.

Liberal 4 Life. :)
 
2012-05-01 01:38:21 PM  

sweetmelissa31: btw slavery would have ended on its own without the Civil War and anyway that is not at all what the Civil War was about.


This is always my favorite trope. Well we will never know, cause the south decided to take their ball and leave, then attack the United States cause some yankee got elected president and he _might_ have ended slavery. We didn't start that war, but we sure as hell ended it.
 
2012-05-01 01:39:14 PM  

Philip Francis Queeg: liam76: Diversity isn't "strength", especially not the "diversity" that people mean when they toss out that phrase.

You don't want your kids teacher, the mechanic working on your car or the people performing surgery on you to be "diverse". You want them to be good at their job. And if you think having the proper racial and sexual mix makes a group better at any of those things you are a moron.

To disagreew ith diversity is strength doesn't mean you are against diversity, just that it shouldn't be a goal of its own.

Which is stronger?

A. A society where teachers, mechanics and surgeons all know their jobs, but everyone comes from the same cultural, religious, intellectual and cultural background.

or

B. A society where teachers, mechanics and surgeons all know their jobs, but the come from a wide variety of, religious, intellectual and cultural backgrounds.


Well your first is impossible, or such a hard to reach hypothetical it really isn't worth talking about. There will never be an education systemt hat can give everyone the same intellectual background and keep them profecient in all those jobs.

As for option B. It depends. If they are so "diverse" they can't understand each other and have fundamentally different beliefs on what constitutes things such as basic human rights it will be weaker.

Also you might want to re-read the bolded portion in the top. I have never seen someone use a callf or diversity as anything other than a call to hire more minorities or more women.

Diversity can be a good thing but when it is chosen at the expense of other qualifications it hurts any organization that uises it in hiring practices.
 
2012-05-01 01:39:27 PM  
It drives me nuts when people use phrases like "affirmative action" in the same breath as the word "slavery". This isn't about the 19th century. My dad went to an all-white school, goddamnit.
 
2012-05-01 01:39:32 PM  

LarryDan43: Jackson Herring: sweetmelissa31: And the symbol 0 came from India, which means that we would not be able to type "0bama" without multiculturalism.

so what you are saying is that diversity is, in fact, strength

BS. Does adding impurities, like carbon to iron strengthen it? NO. Does pressing sheets of different woods together strengthen it? NO.


Lord knows that mixing glue and glass fibers never amounted to anything.
 
2012-05-01 01:39:43 PM  

LarryDan43: Jackson Herring: sweetmelissa31: And the symbol 0 came from India, which means that we would not be able to type "0bama" without multiculturalism.

so what you are saying is that diversity is, in fact, strength

BS. Does adding impurities, like carbon to iron strengthen it? NO. Does pressing sheets of different woods together strengthen it? NO.


If inbreeding is good enough for Joffrey Baratheon, it should be good enough for you!
 
2012-05-01 01:39:46 PM  
I avoid arguments with conservatives because it doesn't do ANY DAMNED GOOD to fight with these people. I'd just rather laugh at them.
 
2012-05-01 01:40:00 PM  
14 Propaganda Techniques Fox News Uses to Brainwash Americans Link
 
2012-05-01 01:44:58 PM  

Craptastic: I avoid arguments with conservatives because it doesn't do ANY DAMNED GOOD to fight with these people. I'd just rather laugh at them.


While sometimes I feel the same way, you can't escape the fact that a large portion of the country identify themselves as 'conservative.' Nothing would ever get done in the U.S. if non-Conservatives just gave up on 'arguing' with them.

But, it seems that's what's been happening in Congress lately anyway.
 
2012-05-01 01:45:12 PM  

LarryDan43: Jackson Herring: sweetmelissa31: And the symbol 0 came from India, which means that we would not be able to type "0bama" without multiculturalism.

so what you are saying is that diversity is, in fact, strength

BS. Does adding impurities, like carbon to iron strengthen it? NO. Does pressing sheets of different woods together strengthen it? NO.


Because everybody knows steel doesn't melt?
 
2012-05-01 01:47:59 PM  

liam76: Philip Francis Queeg: liam76: Diversity isn't "strength", especially not the "diversity" that people mean when they toss out that phrase.

You don't want your kids teacher, the mechanic working on your car or the people performing surgery on you to be "diverse". You want them to be good at their job. And if you think having the proper racial and sexual mix makes a group better at any of those things you are a moron.

To disagreew ith diversity is strength doesn't mean you are against diversity, just that it shouldn't be a goal of its own.

Which is stronger?

A. A society where teachers, mechanics and surgeons all know their jobs, but everyone comes from the same cultural, religious, intellectual and cultural background.

or

B. A society where teachers, mechanics and surgeons all know their jobs, but the come from a wide variety of, religious, intellectual and cultural backgrounds.

Well your first is impossible, or such a hard to reach hypothetical it really isn't worth talking about. There will never be an education systemt hat can give everyone the same intellectual background and keep them profecient in all those jobs.

As for option B. It depends. If they are so "diverse" they can't understand each other and have fundamentally different beliefs on what constitutes things such as basic human rights it will be weaker.

Also you might want to re-read the bolded portion in the top. I have never seen someone use a callf or diversity as anything other than a call to hire more minorities or more women.

Diversity can be a good thing but when it is chosen at the expense of other qualifications it hurts any organization that uises it in hiring practices.


It seems that you believe that there is a direct connection between hiring more minorities and women and people not knowing their jobs. Please explain your basis for making that connection.
 
2012-05-01 01:49:59 PM  

LarryDan43: Jackson Herring: sweetmelissa31: And the symbol 0 came from India, which means that we would not be able to type "0bama" without multiculturalism.

so what you are saying is that diversity is, in fact, strength

BS. Does adding impurities, like carbon to iron strengthen it? NO. Does pressing sheets of different woods together strengthen it? NO.


Does diversifying your bonds strengthen your portfolio? NEVER.
 
2012-05-01 01:50:16 PM  

liam76: Diversity can be a good thing but when it is chosen at the expense of other qualifications it hurts any organization that uises it in hiring practices.


Qualifications are an asset of the individual. Diversity is an asset of the team.

Mathematically to anyone who has ever participated in a Niagara Institute Myers-Briggs leadership course. Diversity in terms of personality types anyways. Mathematically, objectively (proven to all because we had to do the math) the most diverse team making decisions by consensus had the best results each and every time. Better results than any individual and any other less diverse group.

Personality diversity has indeed been proven as a team strength.
 
2012-05-01 01:54:25 PM  

Koalaesq: He starts by intimating that the fact that we have a black president proves that there is no racism in America.


LOGIC DOES NOT WORK THAT WAY.


YES IT DOES, JONAH GOLDBERG IS THE SMARTEST MAN IN THE WORLD
 
2012-05-01 01:55:10 PM  
Scientists ask: do republicans become serial killers or do serial killers become republicans? Link
 
2012-05-01 01:57:04 PM  
TFA should be titled:

Top 5 things I've heard Rush Limbaugh say liberals say.
 
2012-05-01 02:03:07 PM  
"FTFA:"Letting 10 rapists and murderers go free will almost surely result in far more harm to society than putting one poor innocent sap in jail."

That depends if the rest of society know they can be arbitrarily imprisoned when innocent."

No, no I agree. In fact, I nominate Jonah Goldberg to serve 50-90 years at hard labor. No, no crime's heis' guilty of--but apparently innocent people in prison is not a bad thing.
 
2012-05-01 02:06:16 PM  
I love it every time there's an article posted that states that American "liberals" are close-minded, intolerant, and juvenile. Because then you get a hoard of comments demonstrating that the liberals on Fark are close-minded, intolerant, and juvenile.

/ happens like clockwork.
 
2012-05-01 02:08:48 PM  

WombatControl: I love it every time there's an article posted that states that American "liberals" are close-minded, intolerant, and juvenile. Because then you get a hoard of comments demonstrating that the liberals on Fark are close-minded, intolerant, and juvenile.

/ happens like clockwork.


webpage.pace.edu
 
2012-05-01 02:10:11 PM  

Philip Francis Queeg: It seems that you believe that there is a direct connection between hiring more minorities and women and people not knowing their jobs. Please explain your basis for making that connection


If I am tasked to hire the best applicant I can find I will have the most qualified person for the job.

If I am tasked to hire the best applicant who has the right race/sex I will not have the most qualified person for the job.

Really not that complicated. Unless of course you belive having a certain race/sex makes you better at a job.


mrshowrules: liam76: Diversity can be a good thing but when it is chosen at the expense of other qualifications it hurts any organization that uises it in hiring practices.

Qualifications are an asset of the individual. Diversity is an asset of the team.

Mathematically to anyone who has ever participated in a Niagara Institute Myers-Briggs leadership course. Diversity in terms of personality types anyways. Mathematically, objectively (proven to all because we had to do the math) the most diverse team making decisions by consensus had the best results each and every time. Better results than any individual and any other less diverse group.

Personality diversity has indeed been proven as a team strength


I have taken the Myers-Briggs course twice.

We did a lost in the woods scenario with a bear, and one with a life raft. Only one group achieved "synergy" (group scored higher than any individual) and the instructor said it was more likely to happenw ith diverse groups there was nothing showing that a more diverse group was better. At least not presented in that class.

Anyway I don't have a problem witht he premise that a diverse personality group can be a benefit, I kind of doubt that is the case in all work environments though, but as I said before that is not what is usually meant by "diversity".
 
2012-05-01 02:11:16 PM  

bdub77: Apparently not anymore. WaPo is really losing its journalistic credibility by publishing stuff like this.


Here's what I'm convinced happened. The WaPo was getting ready to run the Mann/Ornstein article that basically says that the Republicans are (the most) to blame for the fundamental breakdown in our political system. The WaPo staff then decided that they had to "balance" out the editorials. So they called this guy up and asked him to spit out some vitriol about liberals this and that. Voila, journalistic balance in the Sunday paper. What makes this perfectly delicious is that a key point in the Mann/Ornstein piece is that it's this emphasis on "balance" by outlets like the WaPo -- rather than, you know, an emphasis on the truth -- that has enabled the Republican hijacking.
 
2012-05-01 02:12:59 PM  
A couple of days before his inauguration,Obama proclaimed: "What is required is a new declaration of independence, not just in our nation, but in our own lives - from ideology and small thinking, prejudice and bigotry" (an odd pronouncement, given that "bigoted" America had just elected its first black president).

Seriously man, Obama's election is proof that prejudice and bigotry no longer exist in this country.
 
2012-05-01 02:13:03 PM  

WombatControl: I love it every time there's an article posted that states that American "liberals" are close-minded, intolerant, and juvenile. Because then you get a hoard of comments demonstrating that the liberals on Fark are close-minded, intolerant, and juvenile.

/ happens like clockwork.


Ya, pointing out ignorance is nothing more than close-mindedness against the ignorant.
 
2012-05-01 02:14:14 PM  

mrshowrules: liam76: Diversity can be a good thing but when it is chosen at the expense of other qualifications it hurts any organization that uises it in hiring practices.

Qualifications are an asset of the individual. Diversity is an asset of the team.

Mathematically to anyone who has ever participated in a Niagara Institute Myers-Briggs leadership course. Diversity in terms of personality types anyways. Mathematically, objectively (proven to all because we had to do the math) the most diverse team making decisions by consensus had the best results each and every time. Better results than any individual and any other less diverse group.

Personality diversity has indeed been proven as a team strength.


Proven? By liberals who believe in science?
 
2012-05-01 02:15:32 PM  

El Freak: I stopped reading after he started recycling arguments from George Wallace's playbook. Fark this asshole.


I stopped when he referred to Obama as a "mainstream liberal."
 
2012-05-01 02:18:32 PM  

Ned Stark: I got as far as "we argue like D&D geeks" but then my brain was to full of reasons why 4e is better than 3.5 to continue.


New Coke
 
2012-05-01 02:19:58 PM  
So apparently:

1 Diversity is unnecessary because Plato and Socrates didn't need it;
2. Liberals used the Constitution to avoid having to torture terrorists;
3. Violence really is a workable solution to problems;
4. Liberals don't know what "social Darwinism" is--so it must actually be good;
5. Ultimately, it really is better to put innocent in fact. people in jail because MORE guilty people get put in there along with them, so too bad for them.
6. Jonah Goldberg got dropped on his head a lot as a child. Probably as recently as yesterday,
 
2012-05-01 02:21:29 PM  

hiker9999: "FTFA:"Letting 10 rapists and murderers go free will almost surely result in far more harm to society than putting one poor innocent sap in jail."

That depends if the rest of society know they can be arbitrarily imprisoned when innocent."

No, no I agree. In fact, I nominate Jonah Goldberg to serve 50-90 years at hard labor. No, no crime's heis' guilty of--but apparently innocent people in prison is not a bad thing.


You can only do that if you imprison ten guilty people at the same time. It's a sacrifice I am willing to make, though.
 
2012-05-01 02:22:55 PM  
The top five cliches Farkers use to avoid real arguments:
1 Reality has a liberal bias
2. This is what Republicans really believe
3. Derp!
4. Sarah Palin is automatically President
5. We get it. He's black
 
2012-05-01 02:23:16 PM  

WombatControl: I love it every time there's an article posted that states that American "liberals" are close-minded, intolerant, and juvenile. Because then you get a hoard of comments demonstrating that the liberals on Fark are close-minded, intolerant, and juvenile.

/ happens like clockwork.


^will get a few more bites
 
2012-05-01 02:26:26 PM  

liam76: Philip Francis Queeg: It seems that you believe that there is a direct connection between hiring more minorities and women and people not knowing their jobs. Please explain your basis for making that connection

If I am tasked to hire the best applicant I can find I will have the most qualified person for the job.

If I am tasked to hire the best applicant who has the right race/sex I will not have the most qualified person for the job.

Really not that complicated. Unless of course you belive having a certain race/sex makes you better at a job.


You've never hired a person in your life, have you?

Is there always one person who is clearly more qualified than everyone else? No, of course not. Generally you have a pool of people who's experience and other qualities provide far murkier picture. Some will be better suited to some portion of the job than others. There are all sorts of pluses and minuses in each applicant that need to be balanced and weighed to determine who will be the best hire for the company.
 
2012-05-01 02:31:00 PM  

Philip Francis Queeg: There are all sorts of pluses and minuses in each applicant that need to be balanced and weighed to determine who will be the best hire for the company.


Pretty sure l76 can tell just by looking.
 
2012-05-01 02:34:05 PM  

liam76: To disagreew ith diversity is strength doesn't mean you are against diversity, just that it shouldn't be a goal of its own.


I dunno about you, but I like having excellent Thai, Indian, Chinese, Italian , and Greek restaurants within a ten minute drive.
 
2012-05-01 02:34:45 PM  
Wait, they say that the "living breathing constitution" argument is a LIBERAL cliche? Then why in the holy FARK are the Cons constantly trying to amend it to deny people rights?

I also like how they act like FDR did ANYTHING about the holocaust. That was ignored until AFTER the war was over.

And yes, diversity IS strength. It's why buildings and tools are not just made out of a single ingredient, it is a MIX of items, each contributing something that the others don't.

Then I hit a paywall and they want my money to read more of this bullshiat? What a con. Wish I'd thought of it.

The Right has only ONE cliche, but they pull it out whenever they can: God.
 
2012-05-01 02:35:35 PM  

liam76: I wonder why so many people are tripping over themsleves to defend the "diversity is strength" comment.


Well, to be fair, diversity is one of the things that makes evolution work.
 
2012-05-01 02:39:17 PM  

Cythraul: While sometimes I feel the same way, you can't escape the fact that a large portion of the country identify themselves as 'conservative.'


That's because the RWingers have successfully turned "liberal" in to a dirty word. I'm "conservative" by several definitions of the word. I dress conservatively, I work hard for my money (HA HA - I'm at work right now!), I believe in supporting worthy charities with my money and my time, I'm a gun owner, I think a strong family unit will make me happier...

But by current definitions, I'm a political liberal, and I'm proud of that.
 
2012-05-01 02:41:09 PM  

Philip Francis Queeg: liam76: Philip Francis Queeg: It seems that you believe that there is a direct connection between hiring more minorities and women and people not knowing their jobs. Please explain your basis for making that connection

If I am tasked to hire the best applicant I can find I will have the most qualified person for the job.

If I am tasked to hire the best applicant who has the right race/sex I will not have the most qualified person for the job.

Really not that complicated. Unless of course you belive having a certain race/sex makes you better at a job.

You've never hired a person in your life, have you?


Yes, I have.

I have also worked in a company where people got bonuses for getting women and mionorities through training.



Philip Francis Queeg: Is there always one person who is clearly more qualified than everyone else? No, of course not.


Always, no, often times, yes.


Philip Francis Queeg: Generally you have a pool of people who's experience and other qualities provide far murkier picture. Some will be better suited to some portion of the job than others. There are all sorts of pluses and minuses in each applicant that need to be balanced and weighed to determine who will be the best hire for the company


I agree. And none of that disagrees with what I said unless you believe being of certain race/sex is some sort of "plus" or "minus".

So are you just babbling here or do you believe that being of certain race/sex is some sort of plus" or "minus".
 
2012-05-01 02:43:21 PM  

justinguarini4ever: Jonah Goldberg is an annoying twat.

Here are my five cliches that liberals use.
1. Sweden manages to do just fine with socialism
2. Illegal immigrants pay more in taxes than the average citizen.
3. The two-state solution will lead to peace in the Middle East.
4. Raising taxes only cuts into profit margins.
5. If we paid teachers more, our schools would be a lot better.


You wish you could troll as effectively as that twat. You still haven't got a single bite. Punch yourself and cry.
 
2012-05-01 02:45:16 PM  

Mikey1969: I also like how they act like FDR did ANYTHING about the holocaust. That was ignored until AFTER the war was over.


From what I understand, it wasn't ignored; people had no idea what was happening until American soldiers started finding concentration camps.
 
2012-05-01 02:45:46 PM  
"Diversity is strength" - No. No one supports diversity for its own sake but as an antidote to discrimination and prejudice.

"Violence never solved anything" - No. Though there are certainly ultra pacifists who believe this, it's hardly a liberal trait. The use of force has its time and place, it simply shouldn't be the Weeners particularly in international affairs.

"The living Constitution" - This is a real fundamental difference between the parties. The founders, brilliant though they may have been, could not possibly have forseen the technological and societal innovations that would occur 212 years after the adoption of the Constitution. The language therein is written broadly enough that it is readily open to interpretation and the founders accept that they hadn't thought of everything when writing in the 9th amendment that just because a right isn't explicit in the Constitution or its amendments doesn't mean that it doesn't exist or isn't protected. Consider the alternative. If we lived by strict construction then it would be easy to imagine that there would exist no right to be free from racial or sexual discrimination, no right to workplace safety, no right to emergency medical care, etc and to pass these items through amendment would be onerous to say the least. Conservatives tend to forget that the founders were idealists and hugely liberal for their time.

"Social Darwinism" - Now the author is just being pedantic. Social Darwinism has an understood meaning: that people rise or fall according solely to their own ability and that society has no obligation to support those who fail except through private charity. The author's problem is that this subject has been litigated and his side lost. We as a society don't want to see our elderly parents go without medical care or the ability to pay for food and shelter. We don't want the poor to starve or be unable to see a doctor. We don't want the unemployed to be left to rot. We don't want someone who gets in a car accident to be forced to present a credit card and insurance before they get their broken leg set. And for someone so dead set against public welfare, I see little crowing about corporate welfare from the other side of the aisle.

"Better 10 guilty men go free..." - The US has one of the highest per capita inprisonment ratios on the planet. Clearly we're not letting a lot of guilty men go free. Simply, we want to ensure that justice is meted fairly and impartially. Naturally, the author takes this to it's absurd conclusion that no one should be imprisoned at all, which no one actually believes.
 
2012-05-01 02:45:54 PM  

Deucednuisance: liam76: To disagreew ith diversity is strength doesn't mean you are against diversity, just that it shouldn't be a goal of its own.

I dunno about you, but I like having excellent Thai, Indian, Chinese, Italian , and Greek restaurants within a ten minute drive


I would argue that is variety. You aren't going to care if the person behind the counter or in the kitchen is from each of those cultures (although that is generally a good indicator of the food).

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: Pretty sure l76 can tell just by looking


I am not the one here arguing that race should be a factor.
 
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