Let's see...

Bush Jr. didn't want to go after Bin Laden. "I don't know where bin Laden is. I have no idea and really don't care. It's not that important. It's not our priority"

Romney says he would not order a tactical strike on Osama if he was found in Pakistan. So does McCain.

The GOP tried time and time again to make sure that responders present at Ground Zero on 9/11 didn't get the physical and mental health care they needed.

When President Obama's order finally led to Bin Laden's death, the GOP claimed it was Bush Jr.'s extensive work on finding Bin Laden (apparently including the wars on Iraq and Afghanistan) that led to the mission's success.

Romney flips his stance, says even Jimmy Carter would have made that kind of order. Forgets the Iranian hostage crisis, a politically and realistically difficult situation which cost Carter his chance at a second term.

Seems to me that the GOP are sissies when it comes to national security.
Obama and the Democrats are tougher on it.

Does the GOP have a problem with Democrats telling the truth?

You know who this puts Obama on par with? Every fricking Republican who has run for office since 2001.

Dukakis is driving over on a tank to have a word with you. Give him a minute. Meanwhile, watch out for the Bear in the Woods... waiting for this article author, who must be under 40 or just not very good at political advertising before the 1990s. Is that Nixon about to declare "Peace with Honor?" Were you too much of an 'effete intellectual snob' to not know this? Look up how Eisenhauer ran against Adlai Stevenson while you're at it.

Meh. I have no problem with Obama playing this up. I mean, it really is his only accomplishment.

"I don't know where bin Laden is. I have no idea and really don't care. It's not that important. It's not our priority."
- G.W. Bush, 3/13/02

"I am truly not that concerned about him."
- G.W. Bush, repsonding to a question about bin Laden's whereabouts,
3/13/02 (The New American, 4/8/02)

They're also upset that they failed miserably in catching or killing him, even after ten years of screaming about how they're the only ones who could.

But then again, they had Bush at the helm the whole time so failure really was the only option.

BillCo: Meh. I have no problem with Obama playing this up. I mean, it really is his only accomplishment.

Except for:

-Lily Ledbetter
-Credit CARD
-ACA
-Repeal of DADT
-Ending Iraq
-GM #1 automaker in the world


You're absolutely correct.

Lets not forget, it was Bush's White House that ignored the "Bin Laden Determined To Strike In the US" memo. They were too busy fighting Ashcroft's War on Pornography. Did not think bin Laden was a credible threat.

Republicans cant catch a break.

They try and try to get something to stick to Obama, anything, and he just laughs them off.

Obama caught on a live mic about leeway after elections. ZOMG he is Soviet spy. Then normal people forget about it and Teapublicans are grinding their teeth.

Obama ate dog meat as a young child, makes jokes about it and gets laughs.

It sucks to be a Republican.

/Vote Republican

Frankly, the word on the street in Pakistan is that the reason we never saw Osama's body is that Osama was never there.

Of course, the word on the street in Pakistan is always subject to considerable skepticism. But, observers point out the following:
* There was never an unusual traffic coming in and out of the compound that would have indicated someone important holding up there.
* There were no guards posted at points around the compound that would have aroused suspicion.
* In a country notorious for loose lips sinking ships, no one ever hinted at any unusual activity or presence at the compound - though even lower-level officials would have had to have some knowledge.
* Osama was said to have been a very sick man, likely in need of continual dialysis - yet there was never any indication of him coming out for hospital visits, or doctors going in on a regular basis.
* Though Pakistan is full of Osama supporters, there was no massive public outcry against the US "invasion" - and the Pakistanis love to take to the streets.

All circumstantial to be sure. But, faced with choosing between believing the Pakistanis and Barack Obama, it is a toss-up at best.

Republicans - supporting terrorists since Jan 20, 2009.

NateGrey: Republicans cant catch a break.

They really don't deserve one. And, when you look at the Republican party, you have to think that, in the voters' minds, Obama could punch kittens and set nuns on fire, and he's still going to look better and less insane than they ever could.

Seriously. I don't agree with many things Obama's done, but when I look at the GOP, I just laugh. There is simply no way a sane person could ever support them. They are just a dying political party that has resorted to impotently lashing out like bitter little children.

NateGrey: They try and try to get something to stick to Obama, anything, and he just laughs them off.

More importantly, they seem to be trying their hardest to make Obama's success in killing bin Laden and capturing his files the #1 news story for as long as possible.

Hint to the GOP: This is not the discussion you want to encourage. Obama's consistently shown results on foreign policy since he's been in office. If anything, he's very aggressive-- ordering SEAL raids and drone strikes into sovereign nations without the permission (or even the knowledge) of their governments. He helped topple Qaddafi in a way that made toppling Saddam look like the quagmire (strategically and logistically) it was.

Second hint: You look like disingenuous assholes when you make 10,000 political speeches twisting logic past its breaking point to accuse Obama of "palling around with terrorists" over the last four years... and then turn around and complain that his administration is "exploiting" successes against high-profile terrorists by mentioning them. These things really happened. This administration has been killing high-profile terrorists like they're the ones getting the bounties. It's getting hard to even name a prominent al-Qaeda guy who is still walking around free, instead of being locked up or reduced to a thin pinkish smear of goo. Talking about that is fair game. It's an actual issue, instead of talking about him eating dog meat as a child.

Maybe you should steer the conversation towards substantive topics where you have accomplishments from the last four years to tout, if you can think of any.

NateGrey: Republicans cant catch a break.

They try and try to get something to stick to Obama, anything, and he just laughs them off.

Obama caught on a live mic about leeway after elections. ZOMG he is Soviet spy. Then normal people forget about it and Teapublicans are grinding their teeth.

Obama ate dog meat as a young child, makes jokes about it and gets laughs.

It sucks to be a Republican.

/Vote Republican

What I'm worried about is this exact same shtick has worked before. Remember the Swift Boat.

chimp_ninja: NateGrey: They try and try to get something to stick to Obama, anything, and he just laughs them off.

More importantly, they seem to be trying their hardest to make Obama's success in killing bin Laden and capturing his files the #1 news story for as long as possible.

Hint to the GOP: This is not the discussion you want to encourage. Obama's consistently shown results on foreign policy since he's been in office. If anything, he's very aggressive-- ordering SEAL raids and drone strikes into sovereign nations without the permission (or even the knowledge) of their governments. He helped topple Qaddafi in a way that made toppling Saddam look like the quagmire (strategically and logistically) it was.

Second hint: You look like disingenuous assholes when you make 10,000 political speeches twisting logic past its breaking point to accuse Obama of "palling around with terrorists" over the last four years... and then turn around and complain that his administration is "exploiting" successes against high-profile terrorists by mentioning them. These things really happened. This administration has been killing high-profile terrorists like they're the ones getting the bounties. It's getting hard to even name a prominent al-Qaeda guy who is still walking around free, instead of being locked up or reduced to a thin pinkish smear of goo. Talking about that is fair game. It's an actual issue, instead of talking about him eating dog meat as a child.

Maybe you should steer the conversation towards substantive topics where you have accomplishments from the last four years to tout, if you can think of any.

Well, they screamed against Obamacare. They screamed against reforming the tax code, or letting the Bush tax cuts for the wealthy expire. They screamed about abortion and gay rights, they screamed about the unions, immigration, and how much they want the president to fail.

The screamed a sh*t-ton since 2010, and the result is nobody wants to hear them screaming any more. Except those parts of the country where screaming is all they have left, so its what they do now. Its like our leading export, if anyone but ourselves were buying.

BillCo: Meh. I have no problem with Obama playing this up. I mean, it really is his only accomplishment.

You sound tired.

Obama didn't make the call. The Pentagon did.

He is lying about making the decision to go in after Osama and only using it as a phoney political strategy.

A little hawkishness tempered with pragmatism is sometimes what's needed. Libya and judicious targeted killings via drone and our more euphemistically 'killing-machine' friends are good examples to my mind. Now when it's tempered with insane, untethered neo-conservative wet dreams of Empire on the other hand...

Il Douchey: it's the culmination of everything we've been doing for the last decade

Please post more.

Calmamity: NateGrey: Republicans - supporting terrorists since Jan 20, 2009.

You mean 1981?

Don't forget cutting and running in the face of terrorists since 1983.

Il Douchey: ST6: "Mr. President, we've cornered BinLaden. Our Seals are poised and ready to strike, every second of delay jeopardizes the Seal's lives and the mission's success, so all we need is your simple consent to do this thing"

Obama: "But I'm in the middle of an important round of golf; and we still need to round up everybody for a historic photo-op. I really need to think this over"

ST6: "But, Mr. President, surely you've considered this nearly inevitable endgame call already; it's the culmination of everything we've been doing for the last decade...It's a simple question Mr. President, just answer yes or no, and we can move on"

Obama: "OK, look, we're at the turn; just give me forty minutes to grab a hot dog and put a black jacket over my golf shirt and I'll meet you in the Situation room for the picture -I mean the call, the call"

If you're going to go with that angle, go with the one where SEAL Team Six actually overrode the wishy-washy golfer-in-chief because they are true men and real patriots, and not worried about what the average citizen of "Pock-E-Stahn" thinks about red, white and blue justice.

If only this were true. Republicans campaign on America-first foreign policy issues. They show how they take care of America by doing the hard things that need to be done.

Democrats only do acts like killing bin Laden and Clinton's "chemical weapons lab" strike when it benefits them politically.

Shame on you, Democrats, for trying to use foreign political actions to score cheap political points.

Why don't you let the grown-ups handle things from now on?

Just watched that Obama campaign video for the first time. I have to admit, the guy was wrong, I don't remember where I was when I heard about bin laden being taken out.

That's actually a pretty good counter to an opponent that attacks you on your strengths: co-opt his strengths. Then he is attacking himself.

sigdiamond2000: Il Douchey: ST6: "Mr. President, we've cornered BinLaden. Our Seals are poised and ready to strike, every second of delay jeopardizes the Seal's lives and the mission's success, so all we need is your simple consent to do this thing"

Obama: "But I'm in the middle of an important round of golf; and we still need to round up everybody for a historic photo-op. I really need to think this over"

ST6: "But, Mr. President, surely you've considered this nearly inevitable endgame call already; it's the culmination of everything we've been doing for the last decade...It's a simple question Mr. President, just answer yes or no, and we can move on"

Obama: "OK, look, we're at the turn; just give me forty minutes to grab a hot dog and put a black jacket over my golf shirt and I'll meet you in the Situation room for the picture -I mean the call, the call"

I hope to God you're at least getting paid for what you've been doing around here for the last week or so. The idea that you may be doing this for free is too depressing to consider.

The idea that they're doing it for free and think they're witty or crave the negative attention is a level of pathetic beyond depressing.

NateGrey: Frankly, the word on the street in Pakistan is that the reason we never saw Osama's body is that Osama was never there.

Of course, the word on the street in Pakistan is always subject to considerable skepticism. But, observers point out the following:
* There was never an unusual traffic coming in and out of the compound that would have indicated someone important holding up there.
* There were no guards posted at points around the compound that would have aroused suspicion.
* In a country notorious for loose lips sinking ships, no one ever hinted at any unusual activity or presence at the compound - though even lower-level officials would have had to have some knowledge.
* Osama was said to have been a very sick man, likely in need of continual dialysis - yet there was never any indication of him coming out for hospital visits, or doctors going in on a regular basis.
* Though Pakistan is full of Osama supporters, there was no massive public outcry against the US "invasion" - and the Pakistanis love to take to the streets.

All circumstantial to be sure. But, faced with choosing between believing the Pakistanis and Barack Obama, it is a toss-up at best.

Republicans - supporting terrorists since Jan 20, 2009.

Wait - you mean the most wanted man in the world was laying low and trying not to draw attention to himself? The hell you say!

It's hilarious to see the right-wing try to make some bizarre fantasy about what "really" happened, because they're so obsessed with stopping Obama they can't admit that something actually went right when he gave the order.

No, it was the Pentagon that really did it. No, it was his advisers. No, Seal Team Six went Expendables on bin Laden against Obama's orders. Anything but facing the fact that there was a tough decision and Obama said, "Go, even though it's risky. We need to do this."

cameroncrazy1984: BillCo: Meh. I have no problem with Obama playing this up. I mean, it really is his only accomplishment.

Except for:

-Lily Ledbetter
-Credit CARD
-ACA
-Repeal of DADT
-Ending Iraq
-GM #1 automaker in the world


You're absolutely correct.

I'm not sure BillCo is supportive of any of that stuff. He wants the women in the kitchen and the queers in the closet and the Arabs in the crosshairs.

Citrus Shindig: They show how they take care of America by doing the hard things that need to be done.

Examples? Or is this some sort of weird satire?

MindStalker: Just watched that Obama campaign video for the first time. I have to admit, the guy was wrong, I don't remember where I was when I heard about bin laden being taken out.

Oh man, I do. I was right in the middle of aborting a baby while marrying another man and stepping on a bald eagle's face. Good times.

BSABSVR: I'm not sure BillCo is supportive of any of that stuff. He wants the women in the kitchen and the queers in the closet and the Arabs in the crosshairs.

But he got all pissy and indignant about that last one!

TIKIMAN87: Obama didn't make the call. The Pentagon did.

He is lying about making the decision to go in after Osama and only using it as a phoney political strategy.

No, the Pentagon didn't. You bring me a general who authorized an incursion into a foreign country, an important regional ally no less, and I will show you someone who was, is being, or will be court martialed very, very soon. Final approval for something like that comes from the man upstairs. Hell the sec-def and his VP were trying to convince him NOT to do it.

Bloody William: Citrus Shindig: They show how they take care of America by doing the hard things that need to be done.

Examples? Or is this some sort of weird satire?

Well, Reagan cut and ran from Lebanon when Hezbollah bombed the Marine barracks there. That's a good example.

TIKIMAN87: Obama didn't make the call. The Pentagon did.

He is lying about making the decision to go in after Osama and only using it as a phoney political strategy.

You know how I know you've never read the Constitution?

TIKIMAN87: Obama didn't make the call. The Pentagon did.

He is lying about making the decision to go in after Osama and only using it as a phoney political strategy.

Obama did far more than just push a big button that said "Yes, Kill Bin Laden." He was fully involved in the planning process and definitely earned credit for getting Bin Laden. Here's some delicious copypasta to show you how wrong you are.

The president made his concerns known in a briefing about 10 days before the assault on the bin Laden compound. According to senior aides, Obama felt that the special operations COA, or course of action, was too risky. Under the COA at that time, only two helicopters would enter Pakistani airspace, leaving little backup if something went wrong. "I don't want you to plan for an option that doesn't allow you to fight your way out," the President told operational planners at the meeting, according to the notes of one participant.

So the plan was revised. Ultimately, four helicopters flew into Pakistani airspace, including two refueling helicopters that carried additional personnel. In the end, the extra forces didn't need to fight their way out of the compound, but a backup helicopter did play a key role in the operation. One of the two primary assault helicopters, an HH-60 Pave Hawk lost its lift, landed hard and had to be destroyed. The backup landed to lift its passengers to safety. "The President created the 'fight your way out' option," explained an administration official.

Cite

TIKIMAN87: Obama didn't make the call. The Pentagon did.

He is lying about making the decision to go in after Osama and only using it as a phoney political strategy.

Have you a reference in support of your claim? If your claim is accurate, then for what reason are the military officials who acted without required authorization from the President of the United States of America free rather than in prison for treason?

too funny. Republicans learn what its like to have their game played against them. too damn funny!

SilentStrider: Il Douchey: ST6: "Mr. President, we've cornered BinLaden. Our Seals are poised and ready to strike, every second of delay jeopardizes the Seal's lives and the mission's success, so all we need is your simple consent to do this thing"

Obama: "But I'm in the middle of an important round of golf; and we still need to round up everybody for a historic photo-op. I really need to think this over"

ST6: "But, Mr. President, surely you've considered this nearly inevitable endgame call already; it's the culmination of everything we've been doing for the last decade...It's a simple question Mr. President, just answer yes or no, and we can move on"

Obama: "OK, look, we're at the turn; just give me forty minutes to grab a hot dog and put a black jacket over my golf shirt and I'll meet you in the Situation room for the picture -I mean the call, the call"

What is this I don't even

Shhh...it is a Republitard fantasy.

Facts that Republitards ignore about the OBL assault.

1. Obama insisted it not be done with a bombing campaign in order to avoid civilian casualties.

2. Obama insisted that the assault team be larger in order to engage Pakistani force and fight their way out of the country.

3. Obama debated a drone strike, but independent analysis of the intelligence put the likely hood of OBL being the man in the compound at 50/50.

4. A failed assault would probably ended Obama's chances to win 2012.

5. It was 2-3 days after the go command was issued before the weather cleared and ST 6 was able to attempt the assault.

6. If the assault team had not been as large as it was the assault would have failed, because of the helicopter crash.

The planning and decision to execute the attack is one of the bravest decisions a US president has ever made, he bet years of intelligence work, his presidency and the lives of those men on one throw of the dice.

President Obama is a great president and history will remember him as a giant among midgets. He should be immortalized in granite.

Wicked Chinchilla: TIKIMAN87: Obama didn't make the call. The Pentagon did.

He is lying about making the decision to go in after Osama and only using it as a phoney political strategy.

No, the Pentagon didn't. You bring me a general who authorized an incursion into a foreign country, an important regional ally no less, and I will show you someone who was, is being, or will be court martialed very, very soon. Final approval for something like that comes from the man upstairs. Hell the sec-def and his VP were trying to convince him NOT to do it.

It's an old right wing talkig point they are trying to bring back. They claim that the military did all the work, and had to fight to go in and get im, basically telling the president they were going to do it wither he liked it or not.

It's part of their efforts to paint him as weak on defense. No, it doesn't make any sense to anyone who understands the chain of command, but that's not going to stop them.

Bloody William: It's hilarious to see the right-wing try to make some bizarre fantasy about what "really" happened, because they're so obsessed with stopping Obama they can't admit that something actually went right when he gave the order.

No, it was the Pentagon that really did it. No, it was his advisers. No, Seal Team Six went Expendables on bin Laden against Obama's orders. Anything but facing the fact that there was a tough decision and Obama said, "Go, even though it's risky. We need to do this."

But if anything had gone wrong, either by losing lives of the SEALS, failing to kill Osama, or severe public outcry/ political blowback from Pakistan, they would have rubbed themselves raw over this as a mistake by Obama. And we all know it.

2 Douchey: I could have sworn I put you on ignore already. Back to the depths of hell with ye, farkwit.

TIKIMAN87: Obama didn't make the call. The Pentagon did.

LouDobbsAwaaaay: Obama actually did kill Bin Laden.

your funny. the navy seals disagree, and they're not happy.

Link

Now all of Bush administration flaks and has-beens are coming out to criticize Obama (Bolton, Rumsfeld). Romney should probably be quite on this issue and let it fade.

The problem is... Republicans can't do that. The fact that obama came out with such a hard and fast punch right to their "national security" jaw has bruised their egos. This attack on their manhood cannot stand and must be denounced vigoursly and repeatedly!

Of course, the longer Osama bin Laden tops the news cycle the better it is for Obama so basically he is using the Republicans own inability to reign in their message on this point against them.

I see this being repeated on a lot of issues.

It's kind of awesome. /popcorn

alowishus: TIKIMAN87: Obama didn't make the call. The Pentagon did.

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lol

Il Douchey: ST6: "Mr. President, we've cornered BinLaden. Our Seals are poised and ready to strike, every second of delay jeopardizes the Seal's lives and the mission's success, so all we need is your simple consent to do this thing"

Obama: "But I'm in the middle of an important round of golf; and we still need to round up everybody for a historic photo-op. I really need to think this over"

ST6: "But, Mr. President, surely you've considered this nearly inevitable endgame call already; it's the culmination of everything we've been doing for the last decade...It's a simple question Mr. President, just answer yes or no, and we can move on"

Obama: "OK, look, we're at the turn; just give me forty minutes to grab a hot dog and put a black jacket over my golf shirt and I'll meet you in the Situation room for the picture -I mean the call, the call"

spot on, Il Dude.

Il Douchey: ST6: "Mr. President, we've cornered BinLaden. Our Seals are poised and ready to strike, every second of delay jeopardizes the Seal's lives and the mission's success, so all we need is your simple consent to do this thing"

Obama: "But I'm in the middle of an important round of golf; and we still need to round up everybody for a historic photo-op. I really need to think this over"

ST6: "But, Mr. President, surely you've considered this nearly inevitable endgame call already; it's the culmination of everything we've been doing for the last decade...It's a simple question Mr. President, just answer yes or no, and we can move on"

Obama: "OK, look, we're at the turn; just give me forty minutes to grab a hot dog and put a black jacket over my golf shirt and I'll meet you in the Situation room for the picture -I mean the call, the call"

THIS IS WHAT REPUBLICANS ACTUALLY THINK

amiable: Now all of Bush administration flaks and has-beens are coming out to criticize Obama (Bolton, Rumsfeld). Romney should probably be quite on this issue and let it fade.

The problem is... Republicans can't do that. The fact that obama came out with such a hard and fast punch right to their "national security" jaw has bruised their egos. This attack on their manhood cannot stand and must be denounced vigoursly and repeatedly!

Of course, the longer Osama bin Laden tops the news cycle the better it is for Obama so basically he is using the Republicans own inability to reign in their message on this point against them.

I see this being repeated on a lot of issues.

It's kind of awesome. /popcorn

I saw a bumper sticker today: "Navy SEALs 1, OBL 0" with the Obama 2012 logo.

One more thing to add to the catalog of Obama's Big Brass Balls:

7. He made his decision knowing full well what happened to Carter when he made a very similar call (a decision, by the way, that also required big brass balls).

I love how the narrative is now "The pins were all lined up for Obama, he just had to say yes!"

It's not just dismissing Obama, but it's dismissing the fact that a raid into a compound on the soil of a sovereign nation with which we're allied is incredibly risky for many many reasons, and no insertion, especially with immediate extract, can be considered a "simple" thing. There was more than strategic planning to find bin Laden and get him. There had to have been extensive and careful tactical planning to actually make sure the raid would go down without becoming a bug hunt.

This is a turf war, and the GOP have been holding on to this patch for decades it seems. They aren't going to let it go without a fight, but they've chosen poorly as far as opponents go.

Who cares?

Yes, as POTUS Obama gets some credit for the OBL kill. Good on him.

But even when it happened, Obama didn't get a lasting bump in approval - why would the OFA think that it would be any different a year later? Again, the more time that Obama spends talking about issues that people don't care about, the more it gives Romney time to talk about the ones that do.

If anything, all these efforts at distraction from the economy suggests that Team Obama knows they're in trouble on economic issues and hope to goad Romney into fighting on other issues. But that strategy only works if Romney follows suit, which does not appear to be happening.

Yeah, but who cares? Does anyone in their heart think either politicalarty is here to reeve the people they rresent? I meant represent...Freudian slip. But an appropriate one. It seems they both polarize the moderate and sensible mindset of most good people. We may disagree about some details or even how they are implemented, but most of us are quite moderate. Neither party is very moderate.

QU!RK1019: MindStalker: Just watched that Obama campaign video for the first time. I have to admit, the guy was wrong, I don't remember where I was when I heard about bin laden being taken out.

Oh man, I do. I was right in the middle of aborting a baby while marrying another man and stepping on a bald eagle's face. Good times.

A bald eagle's face? OMG, must alert PETA..

colon_pow: spot on, Il Dude.

Except for being totally wrong.

Karl Rove is a brilliant political thinker, but sometimes his priorities are out of whack. He's great at winning, but forgets that the point of winning isn't to crush them but to make sure our friends on the other side of the isle lose hope, to plant the seed of doubt in their world view. Eventually, they'll come around, and while they may hate you now eventually they'll see the light.

BillCo: Meh. I have no problem with Obama playing this up. I mean, it really is his only accomplishment.


He's lazy?

I strongly endorse the GOP keeping the debate alive as to whether Obama's decision to capture/kill OBL was uniquely great or commonly great. Just like they kept the debate going whether or not women should have access to affordable contraception for 3 months.

BillCo: Meh. I have no problem with Obama playing this up. I mean, it really is his only accomplishment that I can't possibly ignore/avoid/spin/etc.

You're cute. FTFY.

Bloody William: I love how the narrative is now "The pins were all lined up for Obama, he just had to say yes!"

It's not just dismissing Obama, but it's dismissing the fact that a raid into a compound on the soil of a sovereign nation with which we're allied is incredibly risky for many many reasons, and no insertion, especially with immediate extract, can be considered a "simple" thing. There was more than strategic planning to find bin Laden and get him. There had to have been extensive and careful tactical planning to actually make sure the raid would go down without becoming a bug hunt.

Not to mention they were (IIRC) 70% sure he was there. Not a easy call.

Getting some new troll alts in the mix, I like it.

WombatControl: Who cares?

Yes, as POTUS Obama gets some credit for the OBL kill. Good on him.

But even when it happened, Obama didn't get a lasting bump in approval - why would the OFA think that it would be any different a year later? Again, the more time that Obama spends talking about issues that people don't care about, the more it gives Romney time to talk about the ones that do.

If anything, all these efforts at distraction from the economy suggests that Team Obama knows they're in trouble on economic issues and hope to goad Romney into fighting on other issues. But that strategy only works if Romney follows suit, which does not appear to be happening.

The last thing Mitt Romney wants to do is talk about his Bush-era economic policies.

I'll just leave this here:

Famous "Daisy" Attack Ad from 1964 Presidential Election

Mission finally accomplished!

That's it? THAT'S the ad? I've been meaning to watch it, and now that I did, I must admit to being quite let down. So you have a candidate running in office and listing an achievement, while listing specific quotes that his opponent has made regarding HIS unwillingness to do the same as the current candidate, and that's 'bad'?

Grow up, people...

The saddest part about it all is that President Obama and his administration (along with the Seals) did with 50 people what the Republicans claimed would take Billions of dollars per week, occupation of two countries, and millions of dead and injured soldiers and civilians.

born_yesterday: sigdiamond2000: Il Douchey: ST6: "Mr. President, we've cornered BinLaden. Our Seals are poised and ready to strike, every second of delay jeopardizes the Seal's lives and the mission's success, so all we need is your simple consent to do this thing"

Obama: "But I'm in the middle of an important round of golf; and we still need to round up everybody for a historic photo-op. I really need to think this over"

ST6: "But, Mr. President, surely you've considered this nearly inevitable endgame call already; it's the culmination of everything we've been doing for the last decade...It's a simple question Mr. President, just answer yes or no, and we can move on"

Obama: "OK, look, we're at the turn; just give me forty minutes to grab a hot dog and put a black jacket over my golf shirt and I'll meet you in the Situation room for the picture -I mean the call, the call"

I hope to God you're at least getting paid for what you've been doing around here for the last week or so. The idea that you may be doing this for free is too depressing to consider.

The idea that they're doing it for free and think they're witty or crave the negative attention is a level of pathetic beyond depressing.

Even better if he paid for his TF. That means he is actually spending real money to look like a lying ass for free. And the bar goes down even lower.

He and his ilk strive to win the race to the bottom. They love being hated and mocked

As far as I am concerned, don't stop Obama from bragging that he killed UBL. Step back and let him go off the deep end with it.

WombatControl: Who cares?

Yes, as POTUS Obama gets some credit for the OBL kill. Good on him.

But even when it happened, Obama didn't get a lasting bump in approval - why would the OFA think that it would be any different a year later? Again, the more time that Obama spends talking about issues that people don't care about, the more it gives Romney time to talk about the ones that do.


You mean, like the "war on moms"? Yeah, ok. Your concern is noted.

RussianPooper: Il Douchey: ST6: "Mr. President, we've cornered BinLaden. Our Seals are poised and ready to strike, every second of delay jeopardizes the Seal's lives and the mission's success, so all we need is your simple consent to do this thing"

Obama: "But I'm in the middle of an important round of golf; and we still need to round up everybody for a historic photo-op. I really need to think this over"

ST6: "But, Mr. President, surely you've considered this nearly inevitable endgame call already; it's the culmination of everything we've been doing for the last decade...It's a simple question Mr. President, just answer yes or no, and we can move on"

Obama: "OK, look, we're at the turn; just give me forty minutes to grab a hot dog and put a black jacket over my golf shirt and I'll meet you in the Situation room for the picture -I mean the call, the call"

I like how you think there were no events the president was involved in prior to this that required his invovlement and go-ahead, like launching a strike into a country we are not at war with, without contacting them first, in addition to the allocation of resources to continue a search for OBL in the first place.

I find it fascinating that the right would rather have a military coup than a Democratic president with a signature foreign policy achievement.

soy_bomb: As far as I am concerned, don't stop Obama from bragging that he killed UBL. Step back and let him go off the deep end with it.

So you've got no useful spin or counter is what you're saying.

Mikey1969: That's it? THAT'S the ad? I've been meaning to watch it, and now that I did, I must admit to being quite let down. So you have a candidate running in office and listing an achievement, while listing specific quotes that his opponent has made regarding HIS unwillingness to do the same as the current candidate, and that's 'bad'?

Grow up, people...

Well, for about 40 years now, it's been against the rules for democrat to criticize republicans. This helps to understand why team GOP holds its breath until it turns blue every time Obama criticizes them - after they successfully transformed the democrats into a party of spineless wimps afraid of their shadows, they themselves turned into giant pussies. They no longer know how to deal with anyone who challenges them - especially not a bla- blah ... I mean nig ... nigotiator like Obama.

Mikey1969: That's it? THAT'S the ad? I've been meaning to watch it, and now that I did, I must admit to being quite let down. So you have a candidate running in office and listing an achievement, while listing specific quotes that his opponent has made regarding HIS unwillingness to do the same as the current candidate, and that's 'bad'?

Grow up, people...

It's undignified and unbefitting the office of the President of the United States, Leader of the Free World, Bastion of Democracy in the vast Ocean of Tyranny and Subversion to play to win. Obama should, as any true American would, just roll over and let his opponents win. That's what let us win the revolutionary war: freezing to death at Valley Forge, not something disgusting and unfair like murdering Hessians in their sleep on Christmas.

remember obama's next mission? where 22 seals were killed when their helicopter got shot down?

Link

thanks obama

TIKIMAN87: Obama didn't make the call. The Pentagon did.

He is lying about making the decision to go in after Osama and only using it as a phoney political strategy.

Memo for the Record - April 29, 2011 10:35 AM

Received phone call from Tom Donilon who stated that the President made a decision with regard to AC1.
The decision is to proceed with the assault.
The timing, operational decision making and control are in Admiral McRaven's hands.
The approval is provided on the risk profile presented to the President.
Any additional risks are to be brought back to the President for his consideration.
The direction is to go in and get bin Laden and if he is not there, to get out.
Those instructions were conveyed to Admiral McRaven at approximately 10:45 AM.
Leon Panetta (CIA)

LOL. What a bullshiat argument. Obama scores the winning touchdown, hands the ball to the ref like Barry Sanders and gets mobbed by a few teammates before coming out and saying, "look, its not time to spike the football".

Republicans in 2012: "Look at Obama showboating and celebrating!! He's the Chad Ochocinco of Presidents! NOBODY would celebrate this.

Republicans in 2004: "Do that dance President Bush! Go Bushie, it's your birthday! Go Bushie, it's your birthday! Mission Accomplished! If Jon Kerry were President we'd be a farking smoking crater in the ground by the next election."

/Consistency is not one of their strong points.

Yes, it's working so well that the peacenik lefties are annoyed that he's bragging about ordering a killing, other lefties are appalled that he's bragging about the military achievement, Arianna Huffington thinks it's despicable, and it's riling up the right.

This must be the same "working" as the stimulus...

qorkfiend: WombatControl: Who cares?

Yes, as POTUS Obama gets some credit for the OBL kill. Good on him.

But even when it happened, Obama didn't get a lasting bump in approval - why would the OFA think that it would be any different a year later? Again, the more time that Obama spends talking about issues that people don't care about, the more it gives Romney time to talk about the ones that do.

If anything, all these efforts at distraction from the economy suggests that Team Obama knows they're in trouble on economic issues and hope to goad Romney into fighting on other issues. But that strategy only works if Romney follows suit, which does not appear to be happening.

The last thing Mitt Romney wants to do is talk about his Bush-era economic policies.

Which is why he had his Bush Administration economic advisers talk about his policies for him.

Il Douchey:

Il Douchey: Mr. President, do you have a minute?

Obama: Mr. Il Douchey, what can I do for you?

II Douchey: Well, me and the other closet queens in the GOP 101st Keyboard Derp Brigade were talking about, y'know, the rumor.

Obama: The Rumor?

II Douchey: K'now, that stereotype, about blackman thingees?

Obama: Blackman thingees? WTF?

II Douchey: You know....penises. . Is it true?

Obama: *SIghs* Jesus Christ, I went through this same bullshiat with Coulter. (Unzips pant) Yes, see, it's true!

II Douchey: Oh my *blushes* I never knew. Can I...Can I ....touch it?

* KNOCK KNOCK KNOCK*

II Douchey's Mom: What are you doing in the bathroom! You've been in there for over an hour!!!!

II Douchey: NOTHING MOM! LEAVE ME ALONE!!!!! *throws his Obama doll under the sink and pulls up his pants*

II Douchey's Mom: Then come out, I'm worried about you!!! Are you having problems making poopies?

*II Douchey opens bathroom door and storms out past his Mom*

II Douchey: Dammit Mom, we talked about this......

FACT: If Osama Bin Laden had been killed by the Bush Administration, there would still be semen stains on the roof of the Fox News Room.

The degree to which the GOP politicized the Iraq war dwarfs this example.

During the 2008 elections GOP candidates disagreed with Obama for saying that if he had information about Bin Laden in Pakistan, that he would go in and take him out. Which is exactly what happened, and now they look like the chicken hawks they are.

That is why they are going full retard over this issue. It's their Achilles heel.

qorkfiend: RussianPooper: Il Douchey: ST6: "Mr. President, we've cornered BinLaden. Our Seals are poised and ready to strike, every second of delay jeopardizes the Seal's lives and the mission's success, so all we need is your simple consent to do this thing"

Obama: "But I'm in the middle of an important round of golf; and we still need to round up everybody for a historic photo-op. I really need to think this over"

ST6: "But, Mr. President, surely you've considered this nearly inevitable endgame call already; it's the culmination of everything we've been doing for the last decade...It's a simple question Mr. President, just answer yes or no, and we can move on"

Obama: "OK, look, we're at the turn; just give me forty minutes to grab a hot dog and put a black jacket over my golf shirt and I'll meet you in the Situation room for the picture -I mean the call, the call"

I like how you think there were no events the president was involved in prior to this that required his invovlement and go-ahead, like launching a strike into a country we are not at war with, without contacting them first, in addition to the allocation of resources to continue a search for OBL in the first place.

I find it fascinating that the right would rather have a military coup than a Democratic president with a signature foreign policy achievement.

It interferes with their meme about democrats being weak on defense. Obama has been anything but, with the increased drone strikes, the seal raid, libya, etc. Toss in bringing the troops home from Iraq, and the refocus on Afghanistan, as well as the well handled Arab spring, and things look very solid for him defense wise.

On the flip side, Romney looks like a joke, with the constraint gaffs about to soviet union, flip flopping on OBL/Libya/Iraq, etc, and wanting to defer to Israel to get their approval before saying anything about them.

To counter this, they are trying to claim all of Obama's accomplishments are due to someone else besides him acting, ether Bush, the military, etc, but never Obama himself. It's actually quite sad.

McRaven speaks respectfully of Bush as Commander in Chief, saying he "made some very, very tough decisions." About Obama, without a question to prompt him, he waxes lyrical and at length. The planning and decision making for the bin Laden raid, he volunteers, "was really everything the American public would expect from their national leadership."

"The President was at all times presidential," he says. "I would contend he was the smartest guy in the room. He had leadership skills we'd expect from a guy who had 35 years in the military."
Linkariffic. End of the article

Keep pushing this talking point, Repubs. You're going to have to take down Admiral McRaven to make this one stick. Good luck with that.

Hey now, regardless of what the talking heads are saying, 0bama is a psycho killer. He ordered an American citizen to be assassinated by a drone strike. You libs can cry and say that that's life during wartime all you want, but who's to stop him from killing Americans at home now? He lives a wild wild life, flying to cities all over the world to bow to our enemies and eat dog. That man has caused so much division between Americans, I'm not surprised if citizens are planning on burning down the house, senate, or whitehouse tomorrow. He's leading us on a road to nowhere... and Romney can easily defeat him because of this. This must be the place Romney wants to be in this upcoming election. The shot at the whitehouse only comes once in a lifetime.

Sure.
We all remember all of the political ads by bush about how we captured saddam Hussein. Then there were the follow up ads about when he was executed

Yeah. They played those every year and through the 2008 campaign.

Bag of Hammers: Il Douchey:

Il Douchey: Mr. President, do you have a minute?

Obama: Mr. Il Douchey, what can I do for you?

II Douchey: Well, me and the other closet queens in the GOP 101st Keyboard Derp Brigade were talking about, y'know, the rumor.

Obama: The Rumor?

II Douchey: K'now, that stereotype, about blackman thingees?

Obama: Blackman thingees? WTF?

II Douchey: You know....penises. . Is it true?

Obama: *SIghs* Jesus Christ, I went through this same bullshiat with Coulter. (Unzips pant) Yes, see, it's true!

II Douchey: Oh my *blushes* I never knew. Can I...Can I ....touch it?

* KNOCK KNOCK KNOCK*

II Douchey's Mom: What are you doing in the bathroom! You've been in there for over an hour!!!!

II Douchey: NOTHING MOM! LEAVE ME ALONE!!!!! *throws his Obama doll under the sink and pulls up his pants*

II Douchey's Mom: Then come out, I'm worried about you!!! Are you having problems making poopies?

*II Douchey opens bathroom door and storms out past his Mom*

II Douchey: Dammit Mom, we talked about this......

Your story relies on the assertion that he is trusted or capable of using a toilet on his own. I, for one, couldn't suspend my disbelief, even if the other story elements were plausible, if not likely.

Bag of Hammers: Il Douchey: Mr. President, do you have a minute?

I love how even in his fantasy, Obama seems annoyed with him.

tenpoundsofcheese: Sure.
We all remember all of the political ads by bush about how we captured saddam Hussein. Then there were the follow up ads about when he was executed

Yeah. They played those every year and through the 2008 campaign.

Bush didn't run in 2008, you colossal farking retard.

tenpoundsofcheese: Sure.
We all remember all of the political ads by bush about how we captured saddam Hussein. Then there were the follow up ads about when he was executed

Yeah. They played those every year and through the 2008 campaign.

They would have but even mention Bush sent a republicans poll numbers down at that point.

The Republicnas have an obvious out here: "We think what Obama did was terrific and are thrilled that OBL got the justice he deserved, but thats the past, lets' talk about the current state of the economy...." Indeed the 'smarter" Fark conservatives have already decided this is a dead issue and are trying to change the subject.

The problem is the response by conservatives is not and will not be rational, because this is a fundemental attack on their belief that they are the strong "daddy" and the democrats are the weak "mommies." Obama is making them his biatch. That is just sending them over the edge.

Slaves2Darkness: President Obama is a great president

Quoted (and embiggened) for truth.

Parthenogenetic: DROxINxTHExWIND: LOL. What a bullshiat argument. Obama scores the winning touchdown, hands the ball to the ref like Barry Sanders and gets mobbed by a few teammates before coming out and saying, "look, its not time to spike the football".

Republicans in 2012: "Look at Obama showboating and celebrating!! He's the Chad Ochocinco Michael Vick of Presidents! NOBODY would celebrate this.

Republicans in 2004: "Do that dance President Bush! Go Bushie, it's your birthday! Go Bushie, it's your birthday! Mission Accomplished! If Jon Kerry were President we'd be a farking smoking crater in the ground by the next election."

/Consistency is not one of their strong points.

FTFY


Vick only fought them. He didn't fry them.

amiable: The Republicnas have an obvious out here: "We think what Obama did was terrific and are thrilled that OBL got the justice he deserved, but thats the past, lets' talk about the current state of the economy...."

They could try that, but that's not a winner for them either; all Obama has to do is repeat 4 words: "Bush-era economic policy".

Parthenogenetic: cfletch13: Hey now, regardless of what the talking heads are saying, 0bama is a psycho killer. He ordered an American citizen to be assassinated by a drone strike. You libs can cry and say that that's life during wartime all you want, but who's to stop him from killing Americans at home now? He lives a wild wild life, flying to cities all over the world to bow to our enemies and eat dog. That man has caused so much division between Americans, I'm not surprised if citizens are planning on burning down the house, senate, or whitehouse tomorrow. He's leading us on a road to nowhere... and Romney can easily defeat him because of this. This must be the place Romney wants to be in this upcoming election. The shot at the whitehouse only comes once in a lifetime.

You're no stoparrestingme, but bravo.

/Don't worry about the government
//Politicians are slippery people

There's more in there. Keeping looking.

DROxINxTHExWIND: The saddest part about it all is that President Obama and his administration (along with the Seals) did with 50 people what the Republicans claimed would take Billions of dollars per week, occupation of two countries, and millions of dead and injured soldiers and civilians.

That's not quite fair. It ignores all the planning, intelligence gathering that went into it which involved far more than 50 people. The war in Afghanistan drove OBL into Pakistan. It took years to ascertain his whereabouts. Maybe a different president could have caught him earlier on in Tora Bora, maybe not.

That said, Republicans are just mad that Obama did what they could not.

Il Douchey: ST6: "Mr. President, we've cornered BinLaden. Our Seals are poised and ready to strike, every second of delay jeopardizes the Seal's lives and the mission's success, so all we need is your simple consent to do this thing"

Obama: "But I'm in the middle of an important round of golf; and we still need to round up everybody for a historic photo-op. I really need to think this over"

ST6: "But, Mr. President, surely you've considered this nearly inevitable endgame call already; it's the culmination of everything we've been doing for the last decade...It's a simple question Mr. President, just answer yes or no, and we can move on"

Obama: "OK, look, we're at the turn; just give me forty minutes to grab a hot dog and put a black jacket over my golf shirt and I'll meet you in the Situation room for the picture -I mean the call, the call"

too stupid; didn't read

The GOP of all people is whining about the politicization of national security???!?!?!?

Who the farking fark do they think they are trying to fool with this line of BS???

spiderpaz: FACT: If Osama Bin Laden had been killed by the Bush Administration, there would still be semen stains on the roof of the Fox News Room.

So then you've seen the green room after Coulter does a guest spot

Well since we were all completely "suprised" his QE policy unpredictably failed in the third quarter this year.... just like it did last year.....and the year before that....he's got no choice but to spike the UBL football.....again.

Who can blame him for doing another victory lap...again... and then getting back to adding to his proud legacy of holding more fundraising events than every elected president since Richard Nixon combined.

Lionel Mandrake: I forgot who said it (David Corn I think), but if Osama had been killed under the Bush administration, Cheney would have hastened off to Mt. Rushmore and started carving in W's face.

Anyone who doesn't think Bush would have milked it mercilessly - far beyond what Obama has done - is a bloody fool.

Ridiculous. What, I bet you think Bush would have strapped on a flight suit, hopped into a Navy Jet, landed on an aircraft carrier to give a speech right there with an enormous "Mission Accomplished" banner or something, right? The way you portray Bush and the GOP is simply ridiculous. That would never happen.

MFL: and then getting back to adding to his proud legacy of holding more fundraising events

It's funny when "conservative" walk the tightrope of attacking Obama on fundraising while still supporting unlimited money in politics. But the other part of your post was about suddenly caring about fiscal responsibility so you're pretty much ripe with hypocrisy there.

Every time the GOP whines about this they remind every single American that Obama was the one that got Bin Laden. Its probably in their best interest to shut up. But then again, that's when people never shut up.

Il Douchey: ST6: "Mr. President, we've cornered BinLaden. Our Seals are poised and ready to strike, every second of delay jeopardizes the Seal's lives and the mission's success, so all we need is your simple consent to do this thing"

Obama: "But I'm in the middle of an important round of golf; and we still need to round up everybody for a historic photo-op. I really need to think this over"

ST6: "But, Mr. President, surely you've considered this nearly inevitable endgame call already; it's the culmination of everything we've been doing for the last decade...It's a simple question Mr. President, just answer yes or no, and we can move on"

Obama: "OK, look, we're at the turn; just give me forty minutes to grab a hot dog and put a black jacket over my golf shirt and I'll meet you in the Situation room for the picture -I mean the call, the call"


I'd love to see your take on Bush during the 9/11 attacks.

"Mr. President, a plane has hit one of the towers."

....

"Mr. President, a second plane has hit one of the towers."

...


"Mr. President?"

"Hold on, I'm trying to get a bead on this pet goat."

MFL: Well since we were all completely "suprised" his QE policy unpredictably failed in the third quarter this year.... just like it did last year.....and the year before that....he's got no choice but to spike the UBL football.....again.

Who can blame him for doing another victory lap...again... and then getting back to adding to his proud legacy of holding more fundraising events than every elected president since Richard Nixon combined.

BRB, GOTTA CLEAR SOME BRUSH.

MFL: Well since we were all completely "suprised" his QE policy unpredictably failed in the third quarter this year.... just like it did last year.....and the year before that....he's got no choice but to spike the UBL football.....again.

Who can blame him for doing another victory lap...again... and then getting back to adding to his proud legacy of holding more fundraising events than every elected president since Richard Nixon combined.

Quantitative Easing comes from the Fed, not from the president.
/Go directly to Jail, do not pass go, do not collect $200

Once upon a time, there was a king who wanted to build the grandest cathedral the world had ever seen. All the greatest architects of the land tried to secure the job, but none could convince the king that they shared his vision. Finally, an architect came to the king. "I will build you your cathedral," he said, "It will be twice as big as the biggest cathedral in the world, with a dome twice as big as the biggest dome, and a bell tower twice as big as the biggest bell tower."

The king's advisers said, "He's lying! What he promises is impossible. No one can build what he promises. Make him show us his plans, and we will prove he is a fraud."

The architect refused to show him his plans. Instead, he took an egg from within his cloak and said, "I will come back in a week. If, at that time, you can stand this egg on its long end, I will give you the plans for free. But if you cannot, and I can, you will pay me twice my asking price." The king considered and agreed.

In one week, true to his word, the architect returned. "Well, king," he said, "can you stand the egg on its end." The king said, "No, and no one else in the kingdom could do so as well." "Very well," the architect said, "Give me the egg." The architect took the egg, and, with one swift move, cracked the long end of the egg against the table, flattening it, and allowing it to stand upright. The king hired him on the spot.

The moral: Anything looks easy, once someone shows you how to do it.

Jake Havechek: "I don't know where bin Laden is. I have no idea and really don't care. It's not that important. It's not our priority."
- G.W. Bush, 3/13/02

"I am truly not that concerned about him."
- G.W. Bush, repsonding to a question about bin Laden's whereabouts,
3/13/02 (The New American, 4/8/02)

So your argument is Obama was up every night playing where is osama? Saying something isn't the number one priority doesn't mean a go order will not be given if an opportunity arose. Bush took 2 opportunities and failed.

Do liberals really not understand logic?

RyogaM: The architect refused to show him his plans. Instead, he took an egg from within his cloak and said, "I will come back in a week. If, at that time, you can stand this egg on its long end, I will give you the plans for free. But if you cannot, and I can, you will pay me twice my asking price." The king considered and agreed.

Why would he carry an egg around in his cape? Does he have a special egg sling just in case someone questions his credentials?

MyRandomName: Jake Havechek: "I don't know where bin Laden is. I have no idea and really don't care. It's not that important. It's not our priority."
- G.W. Bush, 3/13/02

"I am truly not that concerned about him."
- G.W. Bush, repsonding to a question about bin Laden's whereabouts,
3/13/02 (The New American, 4/8/02)

So your argument is Obama was up every night playing where is osama? Saying something isn't the number one priority doesn't mean a go order will not be given if an opportunity arose. Bush took 2 opportunities and failed.

Do liberals really not understand logic?

No, I think we're following you.

MyRandomName: Jake Havechek: "I don't know where bin Laden is. I have no idea and really don't care. It's not that important. It's not our priority."
- G.W. Bush, 3/13/02

"I am truly not that concerned about him."
- G.W. Bush, repsonding to a question about bin Laden's whereabouts,
3/13/02 (The New American, 4/8/02)

So your argument is Obama was up every night playing where is osama? Saying something isn't the number one priority doesn't mean a go order will not be given if an opportunity arose. Bush took 2 opportunities and failed.

Do liberals really not understand logic?

Obama SUCCEEDED

Not sure what you don't understand.

HotWingConspiracy: soy_bomb: As far as I am concerned, don't stop Obama from bragging that he killed UBL. Step back and let him go off the deep end with it.
So you've got no useful spin or counter is what you're saying.

Why do I need to spin or counter? I am encouraging Obama to continue the behavior he has exhibited for the last few days.

lennavan: Lionel Mandrake: I forgot who said it (David Corn I think), but if Osama had been killed under the Bush administration, Cheney would have hastened off to Mt. Rushmore and started carving in W's face.

Anyone who doesn't think Bush would have milked it mercilessly - far beyond what Obama has done - is a bloody fool.

Ridiculous. What, I bet you think Bush would have strapped on a flight suit, hopped into a Navy Jet, landed on an aircraft carrier to give a speech right there with an enormous "Mission Accomplished" banner or something, right? The way you portray Bush and the GOP is simply ridiculous. That would never happen.

Nor would Bush do anything crass like take a photo-op with ground zero workers in the wreckage of the world trade center.

He would certainly never make light of the hunt for WMD that cost thousands of lives and limbs and billions of dollars. Yea, Bush did that at the Whitehouse correspondent's dinner. Imagine watching that after your son or daughter had been killed in Iraq.

MyRandomName: Do liberals really not understand logic?


Why is it that individuals with an 8th grade reading level (and a degree of spacial reasoning that barely qualifies them to do manual labor) always use this phrase as if it actually helps their point, and convinces everyone else listening that he/she is some kind of mathematical genius instead of the obvious (opposite) truth? It just makes you look like a douche, lacking logical reasoning yourself, with a chip on your shoulder, and some latent penis envy issues.

it's gonna be funny when the navy seals start speaking out about this.

James F. Campbell: 2 Douchey: I could have sworn I put you on ignore already. Back to the depths of hell with ye, farkwit.

You sure showed him! Bet he's crying in shame now! Please continue to update us on your ignore list, we are all so very interested.

sprawl15: RyogaM: The architect refused to show him his plans. Instead, he took an egg from within his cloak and said, "I will come back in a week. If, at that time, you can stand this egg on its long end, I will give you the plans for free. But if you cannot, and I can, you will pay me twice my asking price." The king considered and agreed.

Why would he carry an egg around in his cape? Does he have a special egg sling just in case someone questions his credentials?


lol! This is why I have you favorited as Supreme Commander in the Battle of Minutae. Well done!

soy_bomb: HotWingConspiracy: soy_bomb: As far as I am concerned, don't stop Obama from bragging that he killed UBL. Step back and let him go off the deep end with it.
So you've got no useful spin or counter is what you're saying.

Why do I need to spin or counter? I am encouraging Obama to continue the behavior he has exhibited for the last few days.

republicans hate Obama so much they are mad Bin Laden is dead.

phritz: One more thing to add to the catalog of Obama's Big Brass Balls:

7. He made his decision knowing full well what happened to Carter when he made a very similar call (a decision, by the way, that also required big brass balls).

He also made the call knowing full well Clinton was berated for not making the call in time in 98. Your point?

Mikey1969: That's it? THAT'S the ad? I've been meaning to watch it, and now that I did, I must admit to being quite let down. So you have a candidate running in office and listing an achievement, while listing specific quotes that his opponent has made regarding HIS unwillingness to do the same as the current candidate, and that's 'bad'?

Grow up, people...

Romney was asked to clarify mere days after the statement. He did. Obama ignored this in the ad because romney bluntly stated obl would die. It is quite disingenuous to use a statement already clarified 4 years ago. In fact it is stupid and panders to segment of his followers too stupid to actually pay attention, hence why fark libs love it.

sprawl15: RyogaM: The architect refused to show him his plans. Instead, he took an egg from within his cloak and said, "I will come back in a week. If, at that time, you can stand this egg on its long end, I will give you the plans for free. But if you cannot, and I can, you will pay me twice my asking price." The king considered and agreed.

Why would he carry an egg around in his cape? Does he have a special egg sling just in case someone questions his credentials?

Um, he was on the way to his second job as a short-order cook, and has to bring his own supplies because his boss is a jerk. He also had bacon, if that helps.

theorellior: sprawl15: Why would he carry an egg around in his cape? Does he have a special egg sling just in case someone questions his credentials?

You don't?

Well, I have something I call my egg sling. I wouldn't crush its contents on a table in front of a king, however.

If only Giuliani 9/11 had run for president 9/11 we could put an end 9/11 to all of this politicizing 9/11 of national security 9/11.

//9/11

Weaver95: Headso:

republicans hate Obama so much they are mad Bin Laden is dead.

yeah, it's really really weird to watch. I think the GOP would rather have Bin Laden alive and planning bigger/better terrorist attacks on this country rather than see Obama get a 2-5 point rise in the polls over his death.

Prob not all members of the GOP, but soy_bomb for sure.

It's fun to see the Conservatives get all butthurt over Obama upstaging the GOP in the "National Security" department.

Mrtraveler01: It's fun to see the Conservatives get all butthurt over Obama upstaging the GOP in the "National Security" department.

It would be more amusing to see something they don't get butthurt over.

In American politics, no talking point is dumb enough not to work, if you implement it correctly. The right sort of mind can get mileage out of even the dumbest farking GED-in-law argument you've ever heard.

Karl Rove knew this. He was the master of this. His job was to win elections and he accomplished it by any means necessary and I definitely have a begrudging kind of respect for his evil genius. This is why he was able to portray Bush, the silver spoon draft-dodger, as a "war hero" and Kerry, the guy who actually got a Purple Heart, as a weak-kneed commie-loving hippie.

Rove got to know his opponents as well as he knows his base, and I think he knew Kerry was not the sort to respond forcefully to any kind of criticism, no matter how outlandish, and capitalized on it. It took Kerry forever to properly respond to all of the distortions towards his military service. That speaks volumes about his shortcomings as a candidate, but it also suggests Rove had a pretty good idea how he would react, and tailored the campaign accordingly.

Which is where I think the biggest problem lies for Republicans. They don't understand Obama. They overreact to the cartoonish characterization of Obama that exists solely in their echo chamber, rather than the reality of Obama, so they hurl attacks, flail wildly, and none of it sticks.

NateGrey: Republicans cant catch a break.

They try and try to get something to stick to Obama, anything, and he just laughs them off.

Obama caught on a live mic about leeway after elections. ZOMG he is Soviet spy. Then normal people forget about it and Teapublicans are grinding their teeth.

Obama ate dog meat as a young child, makes jokes about it and gets laughs.

It sucks to be a Republican.

/Vote Republican


I imagine it's like being a Redskins fan. There's a lot of fans that have a lot of passion, but the team is full of duds and the only thing they walk away with every year is a hearty helping of shame and disappointment.

/not a Redskins fan

MyRandomName: Mikey1969: That's it? THAT'S the ad? I've been meaning to watch it, and now that I did, I must admit to being quite let down. So you have a candidate running in office and listing an achievement, while listing specific quotes that his opponent has made regarding HIS unwillingness to do the same as the current candidate, and that's 'bad'?

Grow up, people...

Romney was asked to clarify mere days after the statement. He did. Obama ignored this in the ad because romney bluntly stated obl would die. It is quite disingenuous to use a statement already clarified 4 years ago. In fact it is stupid and panders to segment of his followers too stupid to actually pay attention, hence why fark libs love it.

Mitt Romney, 2008: "I do not concur in the words of Barack Obama in a plan to enter an ally of ours... I don't think those kinds of comments help in this effort to draw more friends to our effort."

Obama ignored this statement in the ad also. It goes to the very crux of the matter: everyone, Bush, Hillary, McCain, and Romney, criticized Obama for stating he would go into Pakistan to get high-value targets without Pakistan's permission or knowledge. Romney's statement is even worse, because his statement implies that he would not have entered and ally of our even with permission, because it would make other countries less likely to join us in our effort to defeat al Qaeda. The Osama mission would have failed catastrophically, we would not have gotten Osama and his treasure trove of intel, and our SEALs would have been greeted with a compound full of terrorists waiting for them if we told Pakistan we were coming.

MyRandomName: Mikey1969: That's it? THAT'S the ad? I've been meaning to watch it, and now that I did, I must admit to being quite let down. So you have a candidate running in office and listing an achievement, while listing specific quotes that his opponent has made regarding HIS unwillingness to do the same as the current candidate, and that's 'bad'?

Grow up, people...

Romney was asked to clarify alter his comments, as they did not poll well, mere days after the statement. He did. Obama ignored this in the ad because romney bluntly stated obl would die eventually.

ftfy

MyRandomName: Mikey1969: That's it? THAT'S the ad? I've been meaning to watch it, and now that I did, I must admit to being quite let down. So you have a candidate running in office and listing an achievement, while listing specific quotes that his opponent has made regarding HIS unwillingness to do the same as the current candidate, and that's 'bad'?

Grow up, people...

Romney was asked to clarify mere days after the statement. He did. Obama ignored this in the ad because romney bluntly stated obl would die. It is quite disingenuous to use a statement already clarified 4 years ago. In fact it is stupid and panders to segment of his followers too stupid to actually pay attention, hence why fark libs love it.

So you're telling me Romney changed his position based on political pressure?

We already KNEW that about Romney. The man doesn't have a single consistent policy position.

FlashHarry: so you're saying that obama is such a farking zen master and operating on such a higher plane than everyone else that he's able to finish a round of golf AND order the successful assassination of the man who perpetrated the greatest terrorist attack in US history? a man who eluded the republican president before him?

A Jedi considers it unsporting to use the Force in an ordinary, friendly golf game, but when a crisis arises one does what one must.

sprawl15: theorellior: sprawl15: Why would he carry an egg around in his cape? Does he have a special egg sling just in case someone questions his credentials?

You don't?

Well, I have something I call my egg sling. I wouldn't crush its contents on a table in front of a king, however.

I will require assistance in removing the potato chip crumbs from my keyboard.

/glorious!

mrshowrules: colon_pow: it's gonna be funny when the navy seals start speaking out about this.


Special Ops people have spoken out before. It does happen. In fact, one spoke out about how Dubya failed to five the strike order when they had OBL cornered at Tora Bora.

What would they say about Fartbongo that would affirm the grade-school fantasy world you've constructed for yourself?

this kind of stuff...

Link

When you boil everything down, you usually end up with a charred, sticky layer of inedible burnt paste clinging to the bottom of the pot.

canyoneer: When you boil everything down, you usually end up with a charred, sticky layer of inedible burnt paste clinging to the bottom of the pot.

and the eggs are all cracked and rubbery

Fact: If Bush had gotten bin Laden we would have had GW Bush day parades on that date every year.

Of course they hate it that Obama is actually doing a better job than they did.

And of course they're butthurt because he took that talking point from them.

Remember when they used to tell us if a Democrat was elected they'd be attacked immediately?
Why Cheney pretty much told us that if Obama were elected that he would be tested his first year in office because he was weak on terror.

And yes Boehner and co. campaigned on it. as per his confidential memo to his fellow congress members

As a result of our efforts during this debate, Americans will recognize that on the issue of national security, they have a clear choice between a Republican Party aware of the stakes and dedicated to victory, versus a Democrat Party without a coherent national security policy that sheepishly dismisses the challenges America faces in a post- 9/11 world.

phritz: Mikey1969: That's it? THAT'S the ad? I've been meaning to watch it, and now that I did, I must admit to being quite let down. So you have a candidate running in office and listing an achievement, while listing specific quotes that his opponent has made regarding HIS unwillingness to do the same as the current candidate, and that's 'bad'?

Grow up, people...

Well, for about 40 years now, it's been against the rules for democrat to criticize republicans. This helps to understand why team GOP holds its breath until it turns blue every time Obama criticizes them - after they successfully transformed the democrats into a party of spineless wimps afraid of their shadows, they themselves turned into giant pussies. They no longer know how to deal with anyone who challenges them - especially not a bla- blah ... I mean nig ... nigotiator like Obama.

Yeah. it's really hard to stay an Independent when the Right has turned into a giant collection of backstabbing asshats. The Dems have stayed so timid that I can't swing completely to their side either, but at the current pace, I would take 1,000 Dems over any of these Republicans, with the exception of Huntsman. The Right deosn't seem to understand that you can be all pro defense and FOR a hard line stance and STILL use diplomacy as your first tactic in most situations, and the Dems don't seem to know how to actually dig in and fight.

As a result, the Right has put the 'asshole' in USA.

What we really need is a 4 or 5 Party system, it balances everything out in the middle, with no one side getting close to capsizing the boat.

/Or better yet, NO parties...

sprawl15: It's undignified and unbefitting the office of the President of the United States, Leader of the Free World, Bastion of Democracy in the vast Ocean of Tyranny and Subversion to play to win.

Well. unless he was a Republican of course. THEN he'd throw on a flight suit and appear on the deck of an airdraft carrier with a 'Mission Accomplished' banner in the background. Hell, Republicans are so cool that they don't even have to wait for the 'Mission' to be 'Accomplished'...

Slaves2Darkness: SilentStrider: Il Douchey: ST6: "Mr. President, we've cornered BinLaden. Our Seals are poised and ready to strike, every second of delay jeopardizes the Seal's lives and the mission's success, so all we need is your simple consent to do this thing"

Obama: "But I'm in the middle of an important round of golf; and we still need to round up everybody for a historic photo-op. I really need to think this over"

ST6: "But, Mr. President, surely you've considered this nearly inevitable endgame call already; it's the culmination of everything we've been doing for the last decade...It's a simple question Mr. President, just answer yes or no, and we can move on"

Obama: "OK, look, we're at the turn; just give me forty minutes to grab a hot dog and put a black jacket over my golf shirt and I'll meet you in the Situation room for the picture -I mean the call, the call"

What is this I don't even

Shhh...it is a Republitard fantasy.

Facts that Republitards ignore about the OBL assault.

1. Obama insisted it not be done with a bombing campaign in order to avoid civilian casualties.

2. Obama insisted that the assault team be larger in order to engage Pakistani force and fight their way out of the country.

3. Obama debated a drone strike, but independent analysis of the intelligence put the likely hood of OBL being the man in the compound at 50/50.

4. A failed assault would probably ended Obama's chances to win 2012.

5. It was 2-3 days after the go command was issued before the weather cleared and ST 6 was able to attempt the assault.

6. If the assault team had not been as large as it was the assault would have failed, because of the helicopter crash.

The planning and decision to execute the attack is one of the bravest decisions a US president has ever made, he bet years of intelligence work, his presidency and the lives of those men on one throw of the dice.

President Obama is a great president and history will remember him as a giant among midgets. He should be imm ...

I know someone posted links to some of those comments the other day. Can someone be kind enough to repost it (or maybe repost this comment with the links attached)?

I'd do it myself, but I only have a few minutes at a time to spare thanks to my job, and I really, REALLY want to serve a big cup of STFU to some of my conservative buddies on Facebook who keep spouting off the "he doesn't deserve any credit for this at all" bullsh*t.

/much thanks :-)

If you absolutely have to attack Obama on defense, you could easily use his expanded use of drone attacks as your argument. Not only did one of our drones get captured by the Iranians, but they also don't have the best record when it comes to civilian casualties. I think that's a valid criticism.

But instead you run with this, which is exactly why you deserve to lose.

Bag of Hammers: Il Douchey:

Il Douchey: Mr. President, do you have a minute?...

God, what a fitting fark handle that guy picked.

Bloody William: Examples? Or is this some sort of weird satire?

no, it's s/citrus/lemon s/shindig/party

colon_pow: Il Douchey: ST6: "Mr. President, we've cornered BinLaden. Our Seals are poised and ready to strike, every second of delay jeopardizes the Seal's lives and the mission's success, so all we need is your simple consent to do this thing"

Obama: "But I'm in the middle of an important round of golf; and we still need to round up everybody for a historic photo-op. I really need to think this over"

ST6: "But, Mr. President, surely you've considered this nearly inevitable endgame call already; it's the culmination of everything we've been doing for the last decade...It's a simple question Mr. President, just answer yes or no, and we can move on"

Obama: "OK, look, we're at the turn; just give me forty minutes to grab a hot dog and put a black jacket over my golf shirt and I'll meet you in the Situation room for the picture -I mean the call, the call"

spot on, Il Dude.

Are these two really this stupid? This has to be an act, right?

NeverDrunk23: Mrtraveler01: It's fun to see the Conservatives get all butthurt over Obama upstaging the GOP in the "National Security" department.

It would be more amusing to see something they don't get butthurt over.

Tax cuts for the wealthy.

Jake Havechek: "I don't know where bin Laden is. I have no idea and really don't care. It's not that important. It's not our priority."
- G.W. Bush, 3/13/02

"I am truly not that concerned about him."
- G.W. Bush, repsonding to a question about bin Laden's whereabouts,
3/13/02 (The New American, 4/8/02)

But they sure killed the shiat out of Saddam! Why, I'm not exactly sure...

If this is the best the right can do when it comes to attacking Obama they haven't got a chance in November.

"He takes too much credit for the things he did!"

Really?

mrshowrules: ...Please explain how Obama is over-reaching in terms of the credit he is taking?

You may not have noticed, but he's a weak-on-defense Democrat

/and black

Bag of Hammers: Il Douchey:

Il Douchey: Mr. President, do you have a minute?

Obama: Mr. Il Douchey, what can I do for you?

II Douchey: Well, me and the other closet queens in the GOP 101st Keyboard Derp Brigade were talking about, y'know, the rumor.

Obama: The Rumor?

II Douchey: K'now, that stereotype, about blackman thingees?

Obama: Blackman thingees? WTF?

II Douchey: You know....penises. . Is it true?

Obama: *SIghs* Jesus Christ, I went through this same bullshiat with Coulter. (Unzips pant) Yes, see, it's true!

II Douchey: Oh my *blushes* I never knew. Can I...Can I ....touch it?

* KNOCK KNOCK KNOCK*

II Douchey's Mom: What are you doing in the bathroom! You've been in there for over an hour!!!!

II Douchey: NOTHING MOM! LEAVE ME ALONE!!!!! *throws his Obama doll under the sink and pulls up his pants*

II Douchey's Mom: Then come out, I'm worried about you!!! Are you having problems making poopies?

*II Douchey opens bathroom door and storms out past his Mom*

II Douchey: Dammit Mom, we talked about this......

*slowclap.jpg*

Cry moar.

I say they keep mentioning that Barack Hussein Obama took out Osama bin Laden in Pakistan, when Republicans said they wouldn't.

keylock71: Weaver95: canyoneer: When you boil everything down, you usually end up with a charred, sticky layer of inedible burnt paste clinging to the bottom of the pot.

I think you need to check the copper wiring on your still.

Shhhhhhhhh! The revenuers watch these threads!

I'm *this* close to making a still to gather essential oils and distill water, but I am at a loss of how to construct such a device. Maybe this newfangled internet thingy can help....

mrshowrules: colon_pow: mrshowrules: colon_pow: it's gonna be funny when the navy seals start speaking out about this.


Special Ops people have spoken out before. It does happen. In fact, one spoke out about how Dubya failed to five the strike order when they had OBL cornered at Tora Bora.

What would they say about Fartbongo that would affirm the grade-school fantasy world you've constructed for yourself?

this kind of stuff...

Link

Putting aside that you actually linked to a NewsMax article, it is about some Navy Seals (not involved in the mission) saying that President can only take credit for the decision/order. Where/when has Obama tried to take more credit than issuing the order? A decision, Romney is on record as saying he would never take.

Please explain how Obama is over-reaching in terms of the credit he is taking?

is the national review online more acceptable to you? if not, try the second link.
you really should try to get out more and see what other people are saying.

Link

Link

Yes, everything that Obama does is perfect and outwits the Hated Rethuglican Enemy™ every time. Obama is infallible, all-powerful, and will win the election by no less than seventy trillion points. He personally killed Osama bin Laden with his laser eyes while seducing ten thousand nubile virgins and drinking a Pepsi. Anyone who says otherwise is an evil stupid, mean, Rethuglican bigot.

Isn't it wonderful living in a world where all your silly little political prejudices can be confirmed no matter what happens? Too bad the real world isn't that world.

/ Fark : Obama :: Pyongyang : Kim Jung Un

colon_pow: Putting aside that you actually linked to a NewsMax article, it is about some Navy Seals (not involved in the mission) saying that President can only take credit for the decision/order. Where/when has Obama tried to take more credit than issuing the order? A decision, Romney is on record as saying he would never take.

Please explain how Obama is over-reaching in terms of the credit he is taking?

is the national review online more acceptable to you?

I LOL'd.

You know you've got a weak case when the only sources you have are conservative blogs.

WombatControl: Isn't it wonderful living in a world where all your silly little political prejudices can be confirmed no matter what happens? Too bad the real world isn't that world.

/ Fark : Obama :: Pyongyang : Kim Jung Un

That's some mighty fine projecting you got there lou...

colon_pow: is the national review online more acceptable to you? if not, try the second link.
you really should try to get out more and see what other people are saying.

Link

Link

All of it leads back to the same daily fail article that has conspiracy theories and Republicans bashing Obama.


WombatControl: Yes, everything that Obama does is perfect and outwits the Hated Rethuglican Enemy™ every time. Obama is infallible, all-powerful, and will win the election by no less than seventy trillion points. He personally killed Osama bin Laden with his laser eyes while seducing ten thousand nubile virgins and drinking a Pepsi. Anyone who says otherwise is an evil stupid, mean, Rethuglican bigot.

Isn't it wonderful living in a world where all your silly little political prejudices can be confirmed no matter what happens? Too bad the real world isn't that world.

/ Fark : Obama :: Pyongyang : Kim Jung Un

You need to pace yourself since you can't quit posting before the election is over. Try to be less crazy in future posts.

WombatControl: Yes, everything that Obama does is perfect and outwits the Hated Rethuglican Enemy™ every time. Obama is infallible, all-powerful, and will win the election by no less than seventy trillion points. He personally killed Osama bin Laden with his laser eyes while seducing ten thousand nubile virgins and drinking a Pepsi. Anyone who says otherwise is an evil stupid, mean, Rethuglican bigot.

Isn't it wonderful living in a world where all your silly little political prejudices can be confirmed no matter what happens? Too bad the real world isn't that world.

/ Fark : Obama :: Pyongyang : Kim Jung Un

Typical Republican black-and-white worldview. If we don't agree that Obama is History's Greatest Monster, we think...well, that nonsense you shat out up there.

WombatControl: Yes, everything that Obama does is perfect and outwits the Hated Rethuglican Enemy™ every time. Obama is infallible, all-powerful, and will win the election by no less than seventy trillion points. He personally killed Osama bin Laden with his laser eyes while seducing ten thousand nubile virgins and drinking a Pepsi. Anyone who says otherwise is an evil stupid, mean, Rethuglican bigot.

Isn't it wonderful living in a world where all your silly little political prejudices can be confirmed no matter what happens? Too bad the real world isn't that world.

/ Fark : Obama :: Pyongyang : Kim Jung Un

I've been trying to resist marking you a certain color, but this really takes the cake.

LordJiro: WombatControl: He personally killed Osama bin Laden with his laser eyes while seducing ten thousand nubile virgins and drinking a Pepsi.

Derp notwithstanding, that is a pretty awesome sentence right there. Somebody get Marvel on the line; I think WombatControl has had an idea for a smash-hit comic book.

The frustration-or, even anger-within the SEAL community is real, and has been brewing for months, particularly among a politically conservative core of operators. It started immediately after the raid, with questions among the Special Forces and intelligence community of whether the president should have waited to announce the kill to exploit the intelligence cache at Osama's compound. It simmered after a Chinook helicopter was shot down, killing 30 Americans, 22 of them Navy SEALs from Team Six.

Was it a coincidence, SEALs asked themselves, catastrophe hit Team Six so soon after being named as the team responsible for the killing?

this is not where obama wants this narrative to go.

Link

colon_pow: Was it a coincidence, SEALs asked themselves, catastrophe hit Team Six so soon after being named as the team responsible for the killing?

this is not where obama wants this narrative to go.

Fartbama's middle name is Hussein. Coincidence?!?!@#

this is not where obama wants this narrative to go.

colon_pow: The frustration-or, even anger-within the SEAL community is real, and has been brewing for months, particularly among a politically conservative core of operators. It started immediately after the raid, with questions among the Special Forces and intelligence community of whether the president should have waited to announce the kill to exploit the intelligence cache at Osama's compound. It simmered after a Chinook helicopter was shot down, killing 30 Americans, 22 of them Navy SEALs from Team Six.

Was it a coincidence, SEALs asked themselves, catastrophe hit Team Six so soon after being named as the team responsible for the killing?

this is not where obama wants this narrative to go.

Link

You're missing one important point.

The GOP has spent the last three years whining and whinging about every little thing the president does, from mustard to teleprompters to golf to his birth certificate.

When they actually stumble across something that may actually be important, it gets drowned out by all that extra noise in the system.

If Clinton had has even a fraction of the huge amount of FUD being thrown at Obama in an attempt to make something stick, he never would have had to deal with the Lewinsky thing, because the majority of people would have dismissed it as another GOP faux outrage of the day.

meat0918: The GOP has spent the last three years whining and whinging about every little thing the president does, from mustard to teleprompters to golf to his birth certificate.

When they actually stumble across something that may actually be important, it gets drowned out by all that extra noise in the system.

preceded by this post:

lennavan: Fartbama's middle name is Hussein. Coincidence?!?!@#

is funny, you have two people saying the same thing, one politely and one using sarcasm.

Spaced Lion: LordJiro: WombatControl: He personally killed Osama bin Laden with his laser eyes while seducing ten thousand nubile virgins and drinking a Pepsi.

Derp notwithstanding, that is a pretty awesome sentence right there. Somebody get Marvel on the line; I think WombatControl has had an idea for a smash-hit comic book.

IIRC, in one of his books didn't Obama admit to being a coke man? At least during his college days.

meat0918: colon_pow: The frustration-or, even anger-within the SEAL community is real, and has been brewing for months, particularly among a politically conservative core of operators. It started immediately after the raid, with questions among the Special Forces and intelligence community of whether the president should have waited to announce the kill to exploit the intelligence cache at Osama's compound. It simmered after a Chinook helicopter was shot down, killing 30 Americans, 22 of them Navy SEALs from Team Six.

Was it a coincidence, SEALs asked themselves, catastrophe hit Team Six so soon after being named as the team responsible for the killing?

this is not where obama wants this narrative to go.

Link

You're missing one important point.

The GOP has spent the last three years whining and whinging about every little thing the president does, from mustard to teleprompters to golf to his birth certificate.

When they actually stumble across something that may actually be important, it gets drowned out by all that extra noise in the system.

If Clinton had has even a fraction of the huge amount of FUD being thrown at Obama in an attempt to make something stick, he never would have had to deal with the Lewinsky thing, because the majority of people would have dismissed it as another GOP faux outrage of the day.

first of all, Navy Seals do not equal GOP.

secondly, the more team obama goes around spiking this football, the more team romney seems correct in the assertion that team obama has nothing else to run on but bin laden.

colon_pow: secondly, the more team obama goes around spiking this football, the more team romney seems correct in the assertion that team obama has nothing else to run on but bin laden.

You mad.

colon_pow: the more team obama goes around spiking this football

You sound upset that Bin Laden is dead, we might have a terrorist sympathizer here.

soy_bomb: Like I said, I hope Obama kicks spiking that football.

Whoops?

team obama just landed in Afghanistan and is spiking the football over there.

i, for one, am getting a kick out of his goofy looking victory dance.

soy_bomb: We already know it was Admiral McRaven. Keep farking that chicken spiking that football, Obama!

Double whoops?