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2012-04-30 06:14:22 PM  
FTFA "If there are others who have said one thing and now suggested they'd do something else, then I'd go ahead and let them explain it."

Willard, welcome to the big leagues...rookie.

static8.businessinsider.com
 
2012-04-30 06:14:35 PM  
You can't assume things like that with Rmoney. Just because he said it doesn't mean he never said the exact opposite.
 
2012-04-30 06:16:27 PM  
Goddamn. About time. Now I've got my chubby.
 
2012-04-30 06:18:23 PM  
Freakin Romney is a "for it/agin it" pulsar with an incredibly fast rotation
 
2012-04-30 06:20:22 PM  
westwing.bewarne.com
 
2012-04-30 06:22:34 PM  
Obama and Co. have been making some increasingly pointed statements highlighting Romney's bullshiatery lately, but something tells me that the gloves won't really come all the way off until the debates start up. I can't wait to see this farking lying chump get beaten and embarrassed on national television.
 
2012-04-30 06:23:19 PM  
upload.wikimedia.org

From Another Article: "Of course," Romney said. "Even Jimmy Carter would have given that order." But by invoking Carter in this fashion, Romney may have effectively undermined his whole argument...The rub is that in a sense, Carter did give "that order," as Romney puts it. In April of 1980, Carter ordered the launch of an American military operation designed to rescue Americans held hostage in Tehran. The mission went horribly awry, of course, killing eight American service-men - a disaster that played a major role in ending Carter's presidency.

Way to go, Mittens.
 
2012-04-30 06:27:32 PM  

GleeUnit: something tells me that the gloves won't really come all the way off until the debates start up. I can't wait to see this farking lying chump get beaten and embarrassed on national television.


Settle down, Beavis. Let's see how each of them prepare for it...
 
2012-04-30 06:29:23 PM  
And this, folks, is why Obama maneuvered the GOP into selecting Mitt.
In starting to see some of his maneuvering come to fruition, I think he's making David Xanatos look impulsive.
 
2012-04-30 06:47:05 PM  
Then-Defense Secretary Robert Gates - a Republican and a holdover from the Bush administration - said last year Obama's decision to get bin Laden was a "gutsy call," adding, "This is one of the most courageous calls - decisions - that I think I've ever seen a president make."

But what does he know. It amazes me how Republicans are trying to wave it off like no big deal, "oh yea, totally easy decision to make, everybody would've done it, he deserves no credit for it." It was an incredibly risky maneuver, one that he was repeatedly told by his opponents in 2008 he would be wrong to approve.

As Somacandra alludes to, if the thing had gone to shiat, Obama would be eviscerated by the right wing.
 
2012-04-30 06:49:48 PM  
i49.tinypic.com
 
2012-04-30 06:49:51 PM  

BladBoy: Willard, welcome to the big leagues...rookie.


Like Gerry Cooney trying to box Ali.
 
2012-04-30 07:00:52 PM  
Obama just put an intel Fool-Core processor into that Romneybot.
 
2012-04-30 07:06:02 PM  
The Romney spokesman called Obama's foreign policy "feckless".

Two things:

1) Most of your supporters don't know what "feckless" means.

2) Of all the things that one can attack Obama for, foreign policy is the least likely to score you points in this particular general election.

/this is gonna be good
 
2012-04-30 07:12:00 PM  

TheBeastOfYuccaFlats: Most of your supporters don't know what "feckless" means


That's the beauty of it. It's like calling Helen Mirren a notorious thespian. The Tea Party would be all over that shiat.
 
2012-04-30 07:14:09 PM  

Marcus Aurelius: TheBeastOfYuccaFlats: Most of your supporters don't know what "feckless" means

That's the beauty of it. It's like calling Helen Mirren a notorious thespian. The Tea Party would be all over that shiat.


Who can resist some hot thespian on thespian action?
 
2012-04-30 07:14:10 PM  
"Any President would have given that order"

Except Any President didn't. Only one man did.

George Bush, 2004: "We haven't heard much from him. And I wouldn't necessarily say he's at the center of any command structure. And, again, I don't know where he is. I'll repeat what I said. I truly am not that concerned about him. I know he is on the run. I was concerned about him when he had taken over a country. I was concerned about the fact that he was basically running Afghanistan and calling the shots for the Taliban. But once we set out the policy and started executing the plan, he became -- we shoved him out more and more on the margins. He has no place to train his Al Qaeda killers anymore."

Mitt Romney, 2008: "I do not concur in the words of Barack Obama in a plan to enter an ally of ours... I don't think those kinds of comments help in this effort to draw more friends to our effort."

Mitt Romney, 2007: "I'm not very concerned about him. It's not worth moving heaven and earth to get one man."

Mitt Romney, 2008: "We'll move everything to get him. But I don't want to buy into the Democratic pitch, that this is all about one person, Osama bin Laden. Because after we get him, there's going to be another and another....This is the worldwide jihadist effort to try and cause the collapse of all moderate Islamic governments and replace them with a caliphate."

Joe Biden, 2008: "In order to look tough, he's undermined his ability to be tough, were he President. Because if you're going to go into Pakistan - which is already our policy by the way, if there's actionable intelligence- you need actionable intelligence from moderates within Pakistan working with you. Now if you're already going to say 'I'm going to disregard whatever the country thinks and going to invade,' the likelihood you're getting the cooperation you need evaporates. It's a well intended notion he has, but it's a very naïve way of figuring out how you're going to conduct foreign policy."

Chris Dodd, 2008: "While General Musharraf is no Thomas Jefferson, he may be the only thing that stands between us and having an Islamic fundamentalist state in that country. So while I would like to see him change, the reality is, if we lose him, then what we face is an alternative that could be a lot worse for our country."

Hillary Clinton, 2008: "You can think big, but remember, you shouldn't always say everything you think if you're running for president, because it has consequences around the world."

Hillary Clinton, 2008: "Last summer, he basically threatened to bomb Pakistan, which I don't think was a particularly wise position to take."

John McCain, 2008: "Will we risk the confused leadership of an inexperienced candidate who once suggested bombing our ally, Pakistan?"

John McCain, 2008: "The first thing you do is, you don't tell people what you're gonna to do. You make plans and you work with the other country that is your ally and friend, which Pakistan is. You don't broadcast and say that you're going to bomb a country without their permission or without consulting them. It's just fundamentals of the conduct of national security policy."

John McCain, 2008: "I'm not prepared at this time to cut off aid to Pakistan. So I'm not prepared to threaten it, as Senator Obama apparently wants to do, as he has said that he would announce military strikes into Pakistan. Now, you don't do that. You don't say that out loud. If you have to do things, you have to do things, and you work with the Pakistani government."

John McCain, 2008: "in fact, [Obama] said he wants to announce that he's going to attack Pakistan. Remarkable. If you are a country and you're trying to gain the support of another country, then you want to do everything you can that they would act in a cooperative fashion. When you announce that you're going to launch an attack into another country, it's pretty obvious that you have the effect that it had in Pakistan: It turns public opinion against us."

Barack Obama, 2008: "If we have actionable intelligence on al Qaeda operatives, including [Osama] bin Laden, and President Musharraf cannot act, then we should. That's just common sense."

Barack Obama, 2008: I understand that President Musharraf has his own challenges. But let me make this clear: There are terrorists holed up in those mountains who murdered 3,000 Americans. They are plotting to strike again. It was a terrible mistake to fail to act when we had a chance to take out an al Qaeda leadership meeting in 2005. If we have actionable intelligence about high-value terrorist targets and President Musharraf will not act, we will."

Barack Obama, 2008: "Nobody talked about attacking Pakistan. Here's what I said, and if John wants to disagree with this, he can let me know: That, if the United States has al Qaeda, bin Laden, top-level lieutenants in our sights, and Pakistan is unable or unwilling to act, then we should take them out. Now, I think that's the right strategy; I think that's the right policy."

Barack Obama, 2008: "And if we have Osama bin Laden in our sights and the Pakistani government is unable or unwilling to take them out, then I think that we have to act and we will take them out. We will kill bin Laden; we will crush Al Qaeda. That has to be our biggest national security priority."

Barack Obama, 2008: "I want to be very clear about what I said. Nobody called for the invasion of Pakistan. Senator McCain continues to repeat this. What I said was the same thing that the audience here today heard me say, which is, if Pakistan is unable or unwilling to hunt down bin Laden and take him out, then we should,"

Only one man had the balls to not only say what had to be said, but backed up his words with actions. Any President might have given the order, President Obama actually gave the order.
 
2012-04-30 07:19:42 PM  
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2012-04-30 07:28:03 PM  

BladBoy: FTFA "If there are others who have said one thing and now suggested they'd do something else, then I'd go ahead and let them explain it."

Willard, welcome to the big leagues...rookie.

[static8.businessinsider.com image 400x300]


I do love that picture so, because it illustrates the look he's going to have for the next several months.

Poor bastiche...
 
2012-04-30 07:28:17 PM  

Ed Finnerty: Marcus Aurelius: TheBeastOfYuccaFlats: Most of your supporters don't know what "feckless" means

That's the beauty of it. It's like calling Helen Mirren a notorious thespian. The Tea Party would be all over that shiat.

Who can resist some hot thespian on thespian action?


there's bound to be some movie like that.
 
2012-04-30 07:31:58 PM  
I do love the subtle "how the fark are we supposed to know all of his flip flopping flippity flopped positions?"
 
2012-04-30 07:42:52 PM  

SpikeStrip: Ed Finnerty: Marcus Aurelius: TheBeastOfYuccaFlats: Most of your supporters don't know what "feckless" means

That's the beauty of it. It's like calling Helen Mirren a notorious thespian. The Tea Party would be all over that shiat.

Who can resist some hot thespian on thespian action?

there's bound to be some movie like that.


To be fair, Helen Mirren is not above a little hot thespian on thespian actions...
 
2012-04-30 07:42:52 PM  
He'll absolutely crucify Mittens with the 1% of voters he needs. He's still only going to win by a slim margin of the popular vote (Most likely, he'll have a significant electoral advantage if he can mobilize the pissed off, underemployed college kids who voted for him in '08 and the people sick of the Republican foreign policy of bomb everything.) The economy is simply chugging along at an anemic rate, but I doubt Mittens has enough firepower to get the nod.

It'll be fun to watch the debates... Mittens is an incredibly weak candidate. Probably more so than Kerry and he did pretty well in the debates even though he is the most boring human being on the face of the planet.

Nice to see someone feeding Mitt's bullsh*t back into his mouth. It'll still be a close election unless something seriously improves with the economy. People are angry and will vote for anything that might possibly change the status quo even if, in reality, it will just make things worse. It does suck right now, but we have to stick with what we're doing. Any kind of radical change at this point, especially cutting Treasury revenue by slashing taxes without commensurate cuts somewhere else would simply destroy any hope we might have of economic viability going forward. Hell, we can't handle $1 trillion yearly deficits... Mitt seems to want to increase that even more.

I'm absolutely terrified about the economic ramifications to this country if a Republican wins the WH and they gain 60 seats in the Senate, or even gain a majority. We'd pretty much prove the Mayans correct.
 
2012-04-30 07:47:19 PM  
*reads article link*

Romney is f*cked.
 
2012-04-30 07:54:56 PM  
I've been trying to figure out if Romney is a fool or a dick.

He's both.
 
2012-04-30 07:56:51 PM  

Lionel Mandrake: I've been trying to figure out if Romney is a fool or a dick.

He's both.


Romney is a product of his time. Fortunately, that time has passed.
 
2012-04-30 07:57:47 PM  

Lionel Mandrake: I've been trying to figure out if Romney is a fool or a dick.

He's both.


www.wearysloth.com

The Republicans...are a virus.
 
2012-04-30 08:00:05 PM  

Ambivalence: Lionel Mandrake: I've been trying to figure out if Romney is a fool or a dick.

He's both.

Romney is a product of his time. Fortunately, that time has passed.


I will say this for Romney - he's able to really believe in whatever it is he needs to believe in at the time he's giving a speech. of course, 10 min later he might have to change his opinion...but when he does, he'll really honestly believe in that at the time as well.

I don't think i'd call that a virtue...just a really nifty bit of mental trickery.
 
2012-04-30 08:06:55 PM  
But, Arianna Huffington and the gang are going after Obama. The ad wasn't "fair." fark you, Arianna.
 
2012-04-30 08:12:50 PM  
The Romney people are quite obviously put out that Obama's team doesn't recognize the ability Mitt has to hold all positions at all times. When he said he wouldn't go into Pakistan, when he said it was a waste of money to track bin Laden down, he meant it. He also meant he would go into Pakistan and that no amount of money was too much to find Osama.

I mean, duh, come on libtards, you know better than this.
 
2012-04-30 08:19:48 PM  

EvilEgg: You can't assume things like that with Rmoney. Just because he said it doesn't mean he never said the exact opposite.


This isn't even my favorite "What I really meant was..." of the day...

Romney adviser Eric Fehrnstrom said that President Obama's decision to bailout Chrysler and General Motors was actually Romney's idea, The Hill reports.

Said Fehrnstrom: "His position on the bailout was exactly what President Obama followed. I know it infuriates them to hear that. The only economic success that President Obama has had is because he followed Mitt Romney's advice."

The claim appears to be a shift from Mitt Romney's November 2008 op-ed in the New York Times, headlined, "Let Detroit go bankrupt."
Link

(Though I suppose that by letting them go bankrupt first, Obama would have allowed some titans of Wall Street the ability to make billions by "restructuring" them)
 
2012-04-30 08:20:22 PM  
LOL, libtards can't understand the quantum mechanics needed to predict when Romney's superposition will collapse into a single state
 
2012-04-30 08:29:04 PM  
Then-Defense Secretary Robert Gates - a Republican and a holdover from the Bush administration - said last year Obama's decision to get bin Laden was a "gutsy call," adding, "This is one of the most courageous calls - decisions - that I think I've ever seen a president make."

RINO RINO! Purge him! Purge the traitor!
 
2012-04-30 08:42:10 PM  
Obama has forgotten that he got his SEALS killed in Afghanistan months later Not good form to use them as political tools
 
2012-04-30 08:44:18 PM  

EnviroDude: Obama has forgotten


I can't hear you over the splish splash sound of Romney flip-flopping.
 
2012-04-30 08:50:15 PM  

EnviroDude: Obama has forgotten that he got his SEALS killed in Afghanistan months later Not good form to use them as political tools


This is what you have? Really? That's all?

God. You guys used to be better.
 
2012-04-30 08:50:28 PM  
This is going to be a bludgeoning.
 
2012-04-30 08:51:14 PM  

EnviroDude: Obama has forgotten that he got his SEALS killed in Afghanistan months later Not good form to use them as political tools


*ahem*

upload.wikimedia.org

nobody seemed to care about it then.
 
2012-04-30 08:52:07 PM  

Somacandra: [upload.wikimedia.org image 481x354]

From Another Article: "Of course," Romney said. "Even Jimmy Carter would have given that order." But by invoking Carter in this fashion, Romney may have effectively undermined his whole argument...The rub is that in a sense, Carter did give "that order," as Romney puts it. In April of 1980, Carter ordered the launch of an American military operation designed to rescue Americans held hostage in Tehran. The mission went horribly awry, of course, killing eight American service-men - a disaster that played a major role in ending Carter's presidency.

Way to go, Mittens.


But I'm sure the GOP never would have made it a campaign issue if the mission had been a failure amirite?
 
2012-04-30 08:53:15 PM  

MisterLoki: This is going to be a bludgeoning.


Romney is in some serious trouble. Obama just plain outclasses the guy. Romney, on the other hand, seems to be handicapped by idiotic staffers and his own lack of personality.
 
2012-04-30 08:54:27 PM  

Weaver95: MisterLoki: This is going to be a bludgeoning.

Romney is in some serious trouble. Obama just plain outclasses the guy. Romney, on the other hand, seems to be handicapped by idiotic staffers and his own lack of personality.


Like I've been saying. He's John Kerry 2.0. Same lack of charisma. Same inept campaign. Same image as a flip-flopper.
Hell, there's even a physical resemblance there.
 
2012-04-30 08:56:17 PM  
Obamas second term agenda:

I don't think Obamao can cancel future elections. However he will nominate likes of Anita Dunn to the SCOTUS and the senate will approve them in name of bi-partisanship. The result will be 30+ years of free abortions on demand, free contraception's to all, 10 million more on food stamps, higher taxes on small businesses, Billions given as gift to Muslim countries, Israel left to wither on the vine, 4 more years of Eric Holder and law suits against AZ type immigration laws, more Stimulus to state union workers, kill Keystone pipeline, cancel oil drilling on federal lands and 100 Czars to control our everyday lives.

And of course the grand daddy of all, nationwide socialized healthcare.


This is what Republicans actually believe!
 
2012-04-30 08:56:54 PM  

Somacandra: From Another Article: "Of course," Romney said. "Even Jimmy Carter would have given that order." But by invoking Carter in this fashion, Romney may have effectively undermined his whole argument...The rub is that in a sense, Carter did give "that order," as Romney puts it. In April of 1980, Carter ordered the launch of an American military operation designed to rescue Americans held hostage in Tehran. The mission went horribly awry, of course, killing eight American service-men - a disaster that played a major role in ending Carter's presidency.

Way to go, Mittens.


Mitt Romney: making Jimmy Carter look good.
 
2012-04-30 08:58:27 PM  

EnviroDude: Obama has forgotten that he got his SEALS killed in Afghanistan months later Not good form to use them as political tools


Took you a little bit to find something to go after, eh?
 
2012-04-30 08:58:40 PM  
I hope Obama keeps this line going.
 
2012-04-30 08:58:49 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: EnviroDude: Obama has forgotten that he got his SEALS killed in Afghanistan months later Not good form to use them as political tools

This is what you have? Really? That's all?

God. You guys used to be better.


They are just different now. The other Bin Laden thread got buried in an avalanche of obtuse bs about taxes by a couple of morans. That seems to work better than this approach.
 
2012-04-30 08:59:01 PM  
SilentStrider
Like I've been saying. He's John Kerry 2.0. Same lack of charisma. Same inept campaign. Same image as a flip-flopper.
Hell, there's even a physical resemblance there.

That's solid. Could you imagine if the they could somehow get that analogy to stick?
 
2012-04-30 08:59:50 PM  

NewportBarGuy: Probably more so than Kerry and he did pretty well in the debates even though he is the most boring human being on the face of the planet.


Romney is exactly like Kerry, only without the military service. And with more flip-flopping. And richer. And more elitist.

I'm sure he'll do just fine.
 
2012-04-30 08:59:58 PM  

EnviroDude: Not good form to use them as political tools


www.september11news.com
 
2012-04-30 09:00:44 PM  

soy_bomb: I hope Obama keeps this line going.


Because when I want US election news analysis, my first thought is to go to the Daily Fail.
 
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