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(The Daily Beast)   Stephen King on rich people: "The majority would rather douse their dicks with lighter fluid, strike a match, and dance around singing "Disco Inferno" than pay one more cent in taxes"   (thedailybeast.com) divider line 441
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2012-05-01 08:53:34 PM

WombatControl: (Emphasis mine).

So basically, the federal government misused its power to protect selected interests, so therefore let's give the federal government more power over the market. That's exactly where the intellectual incoherency comes from.


So the banks acted recklessly and with fewer regulations they will act more prudent?
 
2012-05-01 08:53:40 PM
The man can paint a picture...
 
2012-05-01 08:55:08 PM

bextraordinary: If a Farkette was looking for a new book to read and wanted to get into Stephen King's stuff, where would you Farkers recommend she begin? Any books to definitely avoid?


Read The Stand, The Shining, Firestarter, The Talisman(Co-written with Peter Straub), Skeleton Crew, Different Seasons, 4 Minutes Past Midnight, Cujo, Needful Things, It.

Stay away from? I don't know, I can usually find something worth my tim in most of them. Some of his 'experimental' stuff like The Colorado Kid wasn't all that good.

The things I like tend to be the stuff the literati complain about. I like long descriptions of the people and places, they help me identify with them.
 
2012-05-01 08:56:38 PM

WombatControl: KiplingKat872: The only reason that has not happened to the CEOs of several major financial corporations is because the federal government bailed them out and refuses to press charges.

You might want to rethink that analogy.

(Emphasis mine).

So basically, the federal government misused its power to protect selected interests, so therefore let's give the federal government more power over the market. That's exactly where the intellectual incoherency comes from.

WhyteRaven74: Well in the case of corporations you fleece your customers and make a nice tidy profit. If you're really good, you do so at the expense of taxpayers who are the source of your revenues or at least a good portion of them.

See the above.

And if the federal government could not bail out selected companies, what would have happened? Those companies would be dead in the water. Their CEOs would lose everything, their Boards would be toxic, and their assets would be carved up and distributed to creditors.

But instead, the government used its power to bail out those irresponsible players, protects them from harm, and gives them even more power. fark, Jon Corzine's company MF Global stole over $1 billion in investors' money. Corzine is the biggest crook in American history - and what is he doing now? Bundling money from Obama.

And what's the left's solution? Give the government more and more power.

The brilliance of the Founders is that they realized that the more power you give the State, the more corrupt it would be. That's why they distributed and limited the power of the government.

Too bad some people are too ignorant to have learned the lessons that our Founders taught us.


Too bad some willfully blind refuse to see the point that private corporations are even more corrupt, selfish, and stupid than the government is. That much of government corruption we deal with today is because of corporate interests/lobbyiests.

Even Greenspan said lifting government regs on financial institutions was a mistake. Anyone who thinks that the free market us going to save this nation after watching what has happened to our economy over the last 15 years is a willfully blind fool.
 
2012-05-01 08:56:42 PM

Cubansaltyballs: shamanwest: Cubansaltyballs: Contents Under Pressure: This is the first thing he's written that I've truly enjoyed.

Bonus is that he and his wife are pumping money into the local economy and helping out local interests. I truly admire him (and her) for that.

Now if he could only write less lame dialogue in his books.

I don't mind his dialog. It's the sex scenes that make me cringe. He should call Howard Stern and get him to write the sex scenes.

You know what? After IT, there is not a sex scene that can be written, save maybe a combination of kiddie porn and beastiality, that could twig me.

I don't remember that sex scene. I read that book like 15 years ago.


As young teens they get lost down in the sewers after the first time they attack It down in it's lair. Lost, scared and their group slowly losing that bond that held them together through the worst of times they can think of one thing to do to save themselves. Naturally that one thing is sex. One at a time. With Bev. Then suddenly Eddy remembers the way out.
 
2012-05-01 08:56:45 PM

WhyteRaven74: What's to stop the companies that make stuff for the military from making other stuff? After all, isn't that what capitalism and free markets are all about? When you lose a market, you innovate and go into another one.


For the record, I'm actually for this. I think you're absolutely right, we could grow jobs in aerospace and other tech fields from defense industry workers. We need programs to slow transition people and corporations through, you cut funding suddenly and the people in charge will not have the wherewithal to do anything but layoff people and you'll just have recession again. It's much better to create programs that wean defense off the government teat, so to speak. And again, we'll still need to raise taxes for the aforementioned reasons, jobs do not grow on trees and cutting 500 billion in defense doesn't mean you'll have 500 billion in new innovation company jobs lined up for these folks.
 
2012-05-01 08:57:06 PM

WombatControl: orangehat: Does being a Republican/conservative suck as much as you all make it sound or is it actually much worse because you are trying to put a positive spin on it?

Yes, it sucks to have to actually think about the world instead of mindlessly following the bleating of the crowd. Instead of just calling people names you have to form real arguments and grapple with issues.

But it's worth it - my life would be infinitely poorer without having discovered new and fascinating ideas. Reading John Locke and seeing how it inspired the Declaration of Independence. Reading Milton Friedman and understanding how economic freedom could bring prosperity and a better life for millions. Many, many, many hours of interesting conversations with even more interesting people and quite a few good debates too. Reading things that challenges rather than reinforces your perspectives on the world.

It's much more work, but much better than being just another close-minded fool.


theredphoenix.files.wordpress.com
Pinochet agrees with you on Friedman. I notice that you guys never refer to it as the Chicago school of economics. Maybe it's because you hate on Obama for being a Chicago professor when your economic guru was a professor at the same school.
 
2012-05-01 08:57:31 PM

WhyteRaven74: WombatControl: Reading Milton Friedman and understanding how economic freedom could bring prosperity and a better life for millions

Go read Adam Smith.


I have read Adam Smith. The Wealth of Nations and The Theory of Moral Sentiments are very much foundational to modern free-market capitalism.
 
2012-05-01 08:57:34 PM

bdub77: The thing about it is, welfare, real welfare to the poor, is really not a huge part of the federal budget. Under $200 billion. And that includes things like food stamps and public housing. Even if you got completely rid of the huge bugaboo welfare, you'd still be like a trillion dollars in the hole. And you'd have deteriorating situations with respect to people without food, people living on the street. It would not be the utopia many people say it is.


what gets me is that many people agree with me that we need to stop rewarding corporations for shipping jobs overseas. hell, it's a conservative talking point that keeping jobs here in this country 'makes american strong'. even my tea party contacts agree with that one key point - jobs need to stay here, in this country.

but...tea party conservatives cannot bridge the mental gap and bring themselves to say that corporations need to stop shipping jobs overseas. they want to blame the whole thing on Obama. Or socialism. Or Obama AND socialism. which is just plain bizarre to me. Socialism has nothing to do with it...companies ship jobs overseas because it directly benefits the bottom line of the CEO and big investors. it's purely a money deal for the big guns. But the tea party guys...can't do it. they can't admit that a corporation is f*cking them over. Even when its someone who's been laid off and watched their job go overseas...they can't blame a company for putting them on public assistance.

like I said - it's a strange thing to watch.
 
2012-05-01 08:57:43 PM

Via Infinito: And just when I thought I couldn't love Stephen King any harder, he goes and does something like this.


Yeah, this thing was like an awesome sundae with hot fudge awesome and awesome nuts on top, a dollop of awesome whipped cream, and awesome jimies on top of that, topped off with an awesome cherry.

In short, it was a pretty awesome piece. The quote used for the headline made me laugh my ass off.
 
2012-05-01 08:58:48 PM

WombatControl: WhyteRaven74: WombatControl: Reading Milton Friedman and understanding how economic freedom could bring prosperity and a better life for millions

Go read Adam Smith.

I have read Adam Smith. The Wealth of Nations and The Theory of Moral Sentiments are very much foundational to modern free-market capitalism.


did you read ALL of it, or just the Ayn Rand abridged version?
 
2012-05-01 08:59:08 PM

FlashHarry: Speaker2Animals: Or tying him to a rocket at Cape Canaveral.

funded by the US taxpayer. genius.


What? That SOB wasn't already aiding and abetting the looting of our Treasury?
 
2012-05-01 08:59:24 PM
weknowmemes.com
 
2012-05-01 08:59:59 PM
You know, I was a little worried that righties would boycott Stephen King books.

Then I remembered that most righties don't buy books unless they come free from WND and can't read above the fifth-grade level.
 
2012-05-01 09:00:33 PM

shamanwest: bextraordinary: If a Farkette was looking for a new book to read and wanted to get into Stephen King's stuff, where would you Farkers recommend she begin? Any books to definitely avoid?

It depends on what kind of stuff you like reading. If you like horror, I would recommend Pet Cemetery. That is one of my favorite books and pretty much turned me into a Stephen King fan for life (he scared me with a draft on a stair...). If it hooks you, go with IT and the Stand. Both are excellent books but VERY long reads, and can be daunting for a SK virgin.



w00t for being an oddity and a noob. Literally read my first Stephen King book (The Stand) two weeks ago in about 4 days (long car rides down south)
 
2012-05-01 09:00:59 PM

Don't Troll Me Bro!: bextraordinary: If a Farkette was looking for a new book to read and wanted to get into Stephen King's stuff, where would you Farkers recommend she begin? Any books to definitely avoid?

I'd start with Firestarter. That was my first Stephen King read, was hooked immediately.

More great novels:
Salem's Lot, Carrie, Christine, Cujo, The Dead Zone, Green Mile, It, Misery, Pet Cemetery, The Shining, The Stand (uncut version if you're gonna do it), The Talisman.

Also, see The Mist. It's one of his older books, and was pretty good, but the movie was freaky as hell. Stephen King himself said the movie ending messed his head up and he wished he had come up with it for the book.


The Mist has always been one of my faves. It's not a book though, it's more of a novella at the end of one of his anthologies. Personally, I thought the movie sucked balls, so I can't remember the ending exactly. Seems like it was decent though, now that I think of it.
 
2012-05-01 09:01:56 PM

mrlewish: Stephen King's writing sucks.

There I said it.

Along with Shakespeare.


When did Shakespeare say that?
 
2012-05-01 09:02:14 PM

bextraordinary: Thanks, everyone! I'll check 'em out. I was looking last night because I was curious about the Dark Tower stuff, so it's an awesome coincidence that this thread popped up today and I could get myself pointed in the right direction. :D


Just don't neglect your studies, Spartan.

/rootin' for ya
//No, not really.
 
2012-05-01 09:03:03 PM

Weaver95: Corporate Self: I doubt winterwhile is going to let a little things like facts stand in the way of his DERP.

but how can someone say Obama's at fault for starting the war in Afghanistan when that simply isn't true? Obama wasn't president in 2001, he didn't start that war.

I don't understand how someone can just ignore reality like that. I mean ok, maybe if they were legitimately mentally ill then I could see it but...c'mon.

 
2012-05-01 09:03:45 PM
I like Stephen King. I know a lot of people have problems with his writing style or something (or maybe his politics), but I've read almost all of his books and liked them all. It's not Shakespeare, but it keeps me entertained.

Ringshadow: [weknowmemes.com image 471x147]


Ha! Awesome.
 
2012-05-01 09:04:16 PM

bextraordinary: If a Farkette was looking for a new book to read and wanted to get into Stephen King's stuff, where would you Farkers recommend she begin? Any books to definitely avoid?


I would recommend starting at the beginning and read the first six in order - Carrie, Salem's Lot, The Shining, Night Shift, The Stand, and The Dead Zone. It's as good of a run as any American writer has ever had. After that your mileage may vary. Also, read Danse Macabre. It's non-fiction but flat out awesome.
 
2012-05-01 09:04:17 PM

Weaver95: what gets me is that many people agree with me that we need to stop rewarding corporations for shipping jobs overseas. hell, it's a conservative talking point that keeping jobs here in this country 'makes american strong'. even my tea party contacts agree with that one key point - jobs need to stay here, in this country.


I totally agree about the offshoring movement.

This is sort of a sidebar, but here's a really good article about Apple and the bullwhip effect which is a supply chain phenomenon, it's a great article about why Apple can't move jobs back to the US, even for components that don't require lots of labor costs. And it says a lot about the importance of the smallest things in the manufacturing base, and explains, for example, why it was so important that the US government stepped in to save GM.

Link
 
2012-05-01 09:04:30 PM

ordinarysteve: Maybe it's because you hate on Obama for being a Chicago professor when your economic guru was a professor at the same school.


Also the whole Chicago school thing is a bit of a myth, it wasn't like every econ prof at the U of Chicago who was there when Friedman was there thought he was all that.
 
2012-05-01 09:05:10 PM

Cubansaltyballs: shamanwest: I have Winterwhile on ignore so I only get to see little snippets of his posts. Perhaps he could be the ghost in the series... you know he's there. You can feel his presence, and you only hear of him as rumor or hearsay.

The premise of the book could be a guy that purges his ignore list and is inundated with retards. As soon as you click the button, your world turns into a hybrid of The Walking Dead and Awakenings.

Not bad.

Hey, we can even make Bevets the token religious freak.

I think from now on when he posts, I'm going to read his posts in the voice of Piper Laurie from now on.

Ok, it's settled. Winterwhile is the mysterious ghost of the politics tab. Perhaps he was trapped here when his universe almost collapsed, forcing the dumbest of the people out of the Brawndoverse and into inert states of derp and hurr.

Bevets will be the religious loon trying to lure all the people in so he can get some poon from the crazy broad.

Tenpoundsofcheese will be the guy in the sandwich(cheese sandwich...get it?) board ringing the bell saying the end times are near while a black president is shown on the TVs in the bar behind him.

Weaver95 can be the guy that escapes the Brawndoverse and tries to warn us about the Limtards to no avail. He's also the only one brave enough to travel between universes to bring messages of hope, despair, and ultimately love.

I think we can even find space for the power-hungry cops and alts.


Okay, he's going to have to write it Regulators/Desperation style. That way in one version, the "cop" Weaver95, can be a pscycho, and in the other the "cop" Weaver95 can be a good guy. Hopefully, with a better ending than poor Collie got in Regulators.
 
2012-05-01 09:05:27 PM
i.imgur.com
 
2012-05-01 09:06:14 PM

soy_bomb: /I would support the Clinton tax rates if we return to the same rate of Federal spending.


Sorry. Wars.
 
2012-05-01 09:07:40 PM

WhyteRaven74: ordinarysteve: Maybe it's because you hate on Obama for being a Chicago professor when your economic guru was a professor at the same school.

Also the whole Chicago school thing is a bit of a myth, it wasn't like every econ prof at the U of Chicago who was there when Friedman was there thought he was all that.


I think we can agree that it still makes one cringe less than the Austrian school.
 
2012-05-01 09:08:53 PM

shamanwest: Okay, he's going to have to write it Regulators/Desperation style. That way in one version, the "cop" Weaver95, can be a pscycho, and in the other the "cop" Weaver95 can be a good guy. Hopefully, with a better ending than poor Collie got in Regulators.


No. It should be done in The Shining style or Needful Things.

Also, Drew can be the Yellow Card Man.
 
2012-05-01 09:09:05 PM
I don't read much of his stuff these days but his were some of the first "grown up" novels I read as a kid and I loved em, As a kid you can really get into some of the stories, the stand was prob my favorite.
 
2012-05-01 09:10:46 PM

WhyteRaven74: They also didn't particularly trust commercial interests. While one might expect that of those from rural backgrounds like Jefferson, that ones from urban areas, Adams, Franklin et al also felt that way says something. Also you can avoid a lot of trouble with just a few lines of regulation.


We don't have "just a few lines of regulation" - we have pages upon pages upon volumes of regulations, most of which is written by lobbyists.

I'm all for reducing regulations to just a few lines.

And yes, the Founders were somewhat suspicious of "factions" - read The Federalist No. 10. But again, their solution to limited faction was to limit the power of government, not try to make the State powerful enough to favor one faction over another.

Cubansaltyballs: So the banks acted recklessly and with fewer regulations they will act more prudent?


If there was no "too big to fail" and the banks were personally on the line, then yes, there would have been a lot less recklessness.

Don't get me wrong I am not for total deregulation or getting rid of all government or any other dumb little straw man argument that inevitably crops up.

The government has a role in the market - punishing fraud and allowing for market transparency, as well as the fundamental purpose of preserving property rights - but that role must be limited.

Again, the more power you give the government, the more corrupt the government will be.

KiplingKat872: Too bad some willfully blind refuse to see the point that private corporations are even more corrupt, selfish, and stupid than the government is. That much of government corruption we deal with today is because of corporate interests/lobbyiests.


And again:

1.) There is no such thing as "private corporations" as a singular entity. There are thousands of corporations, from big to small. They do not share the same agenda and their power is distributed. Corporations have only the power of persuasion, not the power of coercion.

Apple can't force you to buy an iPod. McDonalds cannot force you to eat a Big Mac. Government can force you to do whatever they want.

2.) The solution, once again, is not to give government more power. It's to limit government power. More power creates more corruption. Less power to the government limits corruption. That's the whole point of having limited government.
 
2012-05-01 09:11:54 PM

bdub77: it's a great article about why Apple can't move jobs back to the US,


It's actually wrong.
 
2012-05-01 09:12:10 PM

Cubansaltyballs: shamanwest: Okay, he's going to have to write it Regulators/Desperation style. That way in one version, the "cop" Weaver95, can be a pscycho, and in the other the "cop" Weaver95 can be a good guy. Hopefully, with a better ending than poor Collie got in Regulators.

No. It should be done in The Shining style or Needful Things.

Also, Drew can be the Yellow Card Man.


I dunno, we gotta capture the one-post-away-from-ignore to omg, you're-one-post-away-from-fav turn-around that is Weaver. With Shining, the character goes just the opposite.... of course he could be a character kind of like the store proprietor in Needful Things.... do you think he's just trying to fool us?
 
2012-05-01 09:13:15 PM

Dr.Zom: bextraordinary: If a Farkette was looking for a new book to read and wanted to get into Stephen King's stuff, where would you Farkers recommend she begin? Any books to definitely avoid?

I would recommend starting at the beginning and read the first six in order - Carrie, Salem's Lot, The Shining, Night Shift, The Stand, and The Dead Zone. It's as good of a run as any American writer has ever had. After that your mileage may vary. Also, read Danse Macabre. It's non-fiction but flat out awesome.


there's that one with the 4 short stories had apt pupil, and what became shawshank redemption... that was good too.
 
2012-05-01 09:13:54 PM

Weaver95: WombatControl: WhyteRaven74: WombatControl: Reading Milton Friedman and understanding how economic freedom could bring prosperity and a better life for millions

Go read Adam Smith.

I have read Adam Smith. The Wealth of Nations and The Theory of Moral Sentiments are very much foundational to modern free-market capitalism.

did you read ALL of it, or just the Ayn Rand abridged version?


If you're going to make a point, make it - don't threadshiat with meaningless snark.
 
2012-05-01 09:13:57 PM
i75.photobucket.com

oh god, sugar crash, need to sit down...

/unrelated
 
2012-05-01 09:13:58 PM

doglover: shamanwest: . They're all excellent, except for Wizard and Glass.

WHOA! That's an uber troll!


Wizard and Glass is regarded as probably the best of all 8 books by many. Although, it must be said different strokes for different folks.


Agreed. Song of Susannah is when I wanted to cockpunch him.
 
2012-05-01 09:14:09 PM
I'm only a couple hundred pages into 11/22/63 but it's really farking good so far.
 
2012-05-01 09:14:51 PM

WombatControl: Cubansaltyballs: So the banks acted recklessly and with fewer regulations they will act more prudent?

If there was no "too big to fail" and the banks were personally on the line, then yes, there would have been a lot less recklessness.

Don't get me wrong I am not for total deregulation or getting rid of all government or any other dumb little straw man argument that inevitably crops up.

The government has a role in the market - punishing fraud and allowing for market transparency, as well as the fundamental purpose of preserving property rights - but that role must be limited.

Again, the more power you give the government, the more corrupt the government will be.



Why would they care if they get bailed out? They got their millions. Just look at Lehman Brothers. All the execs walked out with pallets of cash while everybody else got f*cked.

The only thing the govt needs to do is make these banks small enough where they can't be any systemic risk, while creating some rules that make pumping and dumping a losing strategy. An easy way to do that is force each bank to hold 20% of any bond/cdo/etc they sell.
 
2012-05-01 09:15:21 PM

Kittypie070: [i.imgur.com image 400x316]


supportyourlocalgunfighter.com
 
2012-05-01 09:15:38 PM

ordinarysteve: I think we can agree that it still makes one cringe less than the Austrian school.


True that.

WombatControl: And yes, the Founders were somewhat suspicious of "factions" -


It wasn't just factions, it went a bit past what's in that one Federalist paper. And as far as banking regulations, what we have is very little. Which is kind of the problem. Also regulations take risk out of markets, because everyone knows what is and isn't kosher. This is a good thing.

Corporations have only the power of persuasion, not the power of coercion.

health insurers sure as shiat do. Also, how well did a limited government work out in the late 1800s?
 
2012-05-01 09:17:13 PM

WhyteRaven74: ordinarysteve: I think we can agree that it still makes one cringe less than the Austrian school.

True that.

WombatControl: And yes, the Founders were somewhat suspicious of "factions" -

It wasn't just factions, it went a bit past what's in that one Federalist paper. And as far as banking regulations, what we have is very little. Which is kind of the problem. Also regulations take risk out of markets, because everyone knows what is and isn't kosher. This is a good thing.

Corporations have only the power of persuasion, not the power of coercion.

health insurers sure as shiat do. Also, how well did a limited government work out in the late 1800s?


Come on, now. Health insurers do a very good job of determining who should live and who should die.
 
2012-05-01 09:17:36 PM

Corporate Self: So who exactly is going to pay the trillions it will take to keep our infrastructure from collapsing over the next 20 years?


That's not the rich's problem. They will have long since sucked this country dry and moved on to a country where the people have actually been taking care of their shiat. They will set up a TV news network to goad the people into privatizing everything and slashing taxes for the wealthy with the promise of trickle down wealth for the rest of the nation. When the nation's economy nosedives and its infrastructure begins to crumble, it will no longer be the rich's problem because they will have moved on to a country where the people have actually been taking care of their shiat...

None of this shiat is the rich's problem. They are here to extract value. You farkers are here to provide it.
 
2012-05-01 09:18:08 PM

robrr2003: Gifts to the United States
U.S. Department of the Treasury
Credit Accounting Branch
3700 East-West Highway, Room 622D
Hyattsville, MD 20782

Your tax rate is limited only by how much you want to send.


If you believe the wealthy are paying too much then you're more than welcome to send them a check.
 
2012-05-01 09:19:07 PM
Stephen King sure knows how to bang out a novel to meet contractual obligations:

www.pagepulp.com
 
2012-05-01 09:19:46 PM

WombatControl: If you're going to make a point, make it - don't threadshiat with meaningless snark.


So you just agree with Smith talking about free markets, but not morality and the possible abuses that can happen? Also, you can't very well agree with Smith and agree with how most corporations operate. Also, your view on taxes would make Smith facepalm, hard.

Cubansaltyballs: An easy way to do that is force each bank to hold 20% of any bond/cdo/etc they sell.


Also make all transactions by all financial institutions public. So no more having Goldman Sachs trading on their own accounts without anyone knowing what they're doing. And no more banks that also do brokerage stuff, and no more having banks that are commercial, investment and personal banks all rolled into one. That hasn't worked out well. Just like it didn't the first time around.
 
2012-05-01 09:20:16 PM

technicolor-misfit: Corporate Self: So who exactly is going to pay the trillions it will take to keep our infrastructure from collapsing over the next 20 years?

That's not the rich's problem. They will have long since sucked this country dry and moved on to a country where the people have actually been taking care of their shiat. They will set up a TV news network to goad the people into privatizing everything and slashing taxes for the wealthy with the promise of trickle down wealth for the rest of the nation. When the nation's economy nosedives and its infrastructure begins to crumble, it will no longer be the rich's problem because they will have moved on to a country where the people have actually been taking care of their shiat...

None of this shiat is the rich's problem. They are here to extract value. You farkers are here to provide it.


The best part is going to be in twenty years, when companies have a harder time trying to sell goods because of the Republican Lower Standard of Living. The rich won't have to worry about the pitted roads and collapsed bridges that would otherwise impede the flow of goods and people.
 
2012-05-01 09:20:22 PM
"The 2011-2012 tuition for boarding students is $45,450 and for day students is $32,575. Tuition, however, provides only part of the cost of educating a student at Deerfield. Presently the total cost amounts to over $77,000 per student annually"

The revolution should start here....Fark these shiats who justify paying $300K to send their kids to High School.
 
2012-05-01 09:20:48 PM

gimmegimme: Health insurers do a very good job of determining who should live and who should die.


Among other things.
 
2012-05-01 09:20:53 PM

shamanwest: Cubansaltyballs: shamanwest: Okay, he's going to have to write it Regulators/Desperation style. That way in one version, the "cop" Weaver95, can be a pscycho, and in the other the "cop" Weaver95 can be a good guy. Hopefully, with a better ending than poor Collie got in Regulators.

No. It should be done in The Shining style or Needful Things.

Also, Drew can be the Yellow Card Man.

I dunno, we gotta capture the one-post-away-from-ignore to omg, you're-one-post-away-from-fav turn-around that is Weaver. With Shining, the character goes just the opposite.... of course he could be a character kind of like the store proprietor in Needful Things.... do you think he's just trying to fool us?


Ok, how about this:

Needful things Weaver95 is really just a proxy for the Barlow guy... who happens to be winterwhile. Winterwhile stalks in the night and the politics tabs while Weaver collects souls during the day.

In the end, there's a showdown with the other Weaver95 from the Brawndoverse. He kills Barlow's Weaver, and then has a really lame sex scene with that one chick who does BIE (she's the token chick in the story that is only used for lame sex scenes). Then... after the Yellow Card Man kills himself and tenpoundsofcheese in a drunken stupor with his broken whiskey bottle Wil Wheaton appears and slays Barlow's Weaver...
 
2012-05-01 09:25:08 PM

Cubansaltyballs: \Why would they care if they get bailed out? They got their millions. Just look at Lehman Brothers. All the execs walked out with pallets of cash while everybody else got f*cked.

The only thing the govt needs to do is make these banks small enough where they can't be any systemic risk, while creating some rules that make pumping and dumping a losing strategy. An easy way to do that is force each bank to hold 20% of any bond/cdo/etc they sell.


That's a hell of a lot easier to talk about than to do. The government can't eliminate risk because the government can't predict risk. CDOs had been around since the 1970s, but never became a problem until the crash.

Again, there are rules that could have been applied - such as regulating CDOs rather than having them be unregulated on a shadow market. But stuff like reinstating Glass-Steagall would have made things worse, not better.

WhyteRaven74: It wasn't just factions, it went a bit past what's in that one Federalist paper. And as far as banking regulations, what we have is very little. Which is kind of the problem. Also regulations take risk out of markets, because everyone knows what is and isn't kosher. This is a good thing.


No, regulations do not "take risk of out markets." That attitude helped create the crash.

You can only regulate against known risks, not against risks that can't be predicted in advance. Thinking that regulations will protect you caused a lot of people to take risks they would not have taken had they known that there were no failsafes.

IIRC, there's a term of art for that idea, but its name escapes me now. But it is a relatively well-studied phenomena that regulations can actually increase people's reckless risk-taking.

health insurers sure as shiat do. Also, how well did a limited government work out in the late 1800s?

How do health insurers have the power of coercion. Explain that thought some more.

How did limited government work out in the late 1800s? Other than taking the country from a mostly agrarian state still racked by the Civil War and Reconstruction to a world power that had a standard of living that rivaled Europe - that's how well it worked for us.
 
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