Erik_Emune: Having recently added about 600 Apple wireless devices to a corporate network, I would like to find and beat senseless whoever came up with "It just works". Then burn down his house, Then sow the ground with salt.

No. It doesn't "just work".

Android tablets? They just work. Every conceivable non-Apple smartphone on the planet? Just works.

iPhones and Ipads? They spit, they scratch, they run away and explode, they do everything but connect in a secure manner according to the standards the rest of the world have agreed on.

Apple stuff "just works" as long as you don't ever want it to interact with a non-Apple piece of hardware, ever.

HeartBurnKid: Erik_Emune: Having recently added about 600 Apple wireless devices to a corporate network, I would like to find and beat senseless whoever came up with "It just works". Then burn down his house, Then sow the ground with salt.

No. It doesn't "just work".

Android tablets? They just work. Every conceivable non-Apple smartphone on the planet? Just works.

iPhones and Ipads? They spit, they scratch, they run away and explode, they do everything but connect in a secure manner according to the standards the rest of the world have agreed on.

Apple stuff "just works" as long as you don't ever want it to interact with a non-Apple piece of hardware, ever.

Ummm..

What?

The memory on my MPB came from Crucial. My external HD is a Western Digital. My wireless keyboard is a Logitech.

WTF are you talking about?

Erik_Emune: Having recently added about 600 Apple wireless devices to a corporate network, I would like to find and beat senseless whoever came up with "It just works". Then burn down his house, Then sow the ground with salt.

Same experience I have. I work in a large organization, and a lot of the users and consultants have Apple stuff. Most of them have problems connecting to WPA2 Enterprise WiFi. And for some reason iPhones (not iPads) keep losing the Exchange configuration, and the only way to repair seems to be to delete the Exchange account on the device, then recreate it for it to start synching again.

And one pet peeve of mine: If you are a consultant who uses an Apple device, please buy and bring any adapters you may need to do your presentations. Not a week goes by that I don't have some consultant going apeshiat on me because I don't have an ethernet/VGA/HDMI/whatever adapter to allow their machine to connect with our systems.

HeartBurnKid: Erik_Emune: Having recently added about 600 Apple wireless devices to a corporate network, I would like to find and beat senseless whoever came up with "It just works". Then burn down his house, Then sow the ground with salt.

No. It doesn't "just work".

Android tablets? They just work. Every conceivable non-Apple smartphone on the planet? Just works.

iPhones and Ipads? They spit, they scratch, they run away and explode, they do everything but connect in a secure manner according to the standards the rest of the world have agreed on.

Apple stuff "just works" as long as you don't ever want it to interact with a non-Apple piece of hardware, ever.

Explain how I have an Xbox kinect hooked up to mac mini server then, dum-dum

unyon: We're comparing a 64 bit version of OSX, hence why i selected that. The requirements of which are 64 bit hardware and 2GB. Source. I was pretty clear on which OS version I was referring to, you might want to brush up on your reading skills.

Not to mention that Win 7 on a system with 1Gb could run the OS, but could barely open Office apps beyond that.

Blah blah blah, any decent machine from 2006 besides the Mac mini (Intel Core Duo, max. 2 GB) had an Intel Core 2 Duo and was capable of running 4 GB of RAM, and is thus able to run the whatever operating system is current, be that Windows 7 or OS X Lion. OK, not counting my wife's Gateway laptop which had the same specs as my Mac mini, but literally fell apart a few months ago. Wait, even that one could run Windows 7 with ease.

HeartBurnKid: Apple stuff "just works" as long as you don't ever want it to interact with a non-Apple piece of hardware, ever.

Eh, what? You're telling me I don't have this Mac mini hooked up to a Linksys router, a Targus mouse, a Brother printer and a Western Digital external hard drive? I can't import pictures from my Panasonic camera? And my AppleTV isn't hooked up to a nice flatscreen TV?

I'm just waiting for someone to actually crunch Apples advertised numbers. They claim million upon millions of iPhone and iPad sales but I don't see them in use any where. I read that Toyota has sold a total of 7,000,000 Camry's and I see four or five every time I drive somewhere. I know maybe four people with an iPhone and only one with an ipad , and he only has it cause he won it at an Xmas party two years ago. I'm gonna laugh my ass off when they go MCI on their investors.

mltain: I'm just waiting for someone to actually crunch Apples advertised numbers. They claim million upon millions of iPhone and iPad sales but I don't see them in use any where. I read that Toyota has sold a total of 7,000,000 Camry's and I see four or five every time I drive somewhere. I know maybe four people with an iPhone and only one with an ipad , and he only has it cause he won it at an Xmas party two years ago. I'm gonna laugh my ass off when they go MCI on their investors.

Dude, you live in Odessa, Texas. Of COURSE everybody there still uses a Motorola bag phone and drives pickup trucks.

illegal.tender: I'm giggling at the "OS X is a flavor of Linux" line.

I should've said, "OS X is UNIX-based." That'll teach me to multitask while typing replies to Mac users.

IanMoone: 2) None of their tablets are showing Windows 8...they should probably get on it.

Windows 8 hasn't even been released yet. They'll probably get on it when you can actually buy a computer with Windows 8 on it.

unyon: Tellingthem: Huh? I'm not a tech guy or anything but I just installed win 7 on my friends old laptop and it works fine. I've also done it on old desktops that ran xp as well.

In 2006, 2GB wasn't standard on a notebook, nor necessarily was 64 bit compliance. The spec on Win 7 requires both. If the computer really is of this vintage, it would barely install, let alone run.



Windows 7 requires 1 GB of RAM for the 32-bit versions.

Windows 7 System Requirements

A little googling shows me that in 2006, a 1 GB RAM, 32-bit, 1 GHz CPU computer wasn't unusual.

Jokes are supposed to be funny and at least have your own spin, right?

How about this one?

At a Microsoft store customers are able to tell what a door is...
http://www.afterdawn.com/news/article.cfm/2012/03/26/lady_walks_into_ a pple_glass_door_sues_for_1_million

Or

If you buy something from MS calling their tech support for help, they won't tell you their product doesn't work the way you are holding it.

Or

The new iPad is not overheating we designed it as a lap cozy.

/meh I tried

Joe Peanut: Alpha children wear grey. They work much harder than we do, because they're so frightfully clever. I'm awfully glad I'm a Beta, because I don't work so hard. And then we are much better than the Gammas and Deltas. Gammas are stupid. They all wear green, and Delta children wear khaki. Oh no, I don't want to play with Delta children. And Epsilons are still worse. They're too stupid to be able to read or write. Besides they wear black, which is such a beastly color. I'm so glad I'm a Beta.

CJ Cherryh? Sounds like Cyteen.

Bought a few MacBook Pros for the business two months ago. They're ok, except they didn't like our access points' security (saw another post on this upthread), and their suggestion was to scrap them all and buy Airports. Nah.

The other issue is that they won't stay online with wifi more than about 10 minutes before they throw the connection on the floor. Apple knows about it but apparently has no interest in fixing it, maybe on the next os. So now we have Macbook Pros with Bearextenders (unfortunate name).

OceanVortex: That was mostly humorous, I suppose.

The stores will also sell Microsoft Excel 2003 to the first 64,000 people...and then it won't let the employees sell it to anyone else after that.

Ah, that takes me back to the days when that 64,000 line limit actually affected my work. I was working with data points from a laser diameter gauge and in no time you had thousands of lines, and I had to filter and condense data in other software before moving it to excel for reporting.

I actually didn't realize the newer version of Excel had that feature for a while once I had it, then I had to dive through the help file to find the new limit. IIRC, the help file actually stated that there was a theoretical limit, but it didn't name it. Me and Excel did so much together after that. Those halcyon days...

I hope the author never has to call the mouth-breathing "socially-award" (sic) IT guys. Who knows what those idiots might do?

erewhon: Joe Peanut: Alpha children wear grey. They work much harder than we do, because they're so frightfully clever. I'm awfully glad I'm a Beta, because I don't work so hard. And then we are much better than the Gammas and Deltas. Gammas are stupid. They all wear green, and Delta children wear khaki. Oh no, I don't want to play with Delta children. And Epsilons are still worse. They're too stupid to be able to read or write. Besides they wear black, which is such a beastly color. I'm so glad I'm a Beta.

CJ Cherryh? Sounds like Cyteen.

Aldous Huxley. Brave New World

I remember the Microsoft Kiosks that MS put in shopping malls as an answer to the Apple store. Typical half-baked "me too" marketing imitation except that the kiosks didn't sell anything. They had nice shiny, pretty computers, all the good software and motivated sales people manning the kiosk. But they weren't there to actually sell anything. Just to demonstrate stuff. So they show you something, you look at it and walk away. 5 minutes later you've forgotten whatever they showed you and they never got a sale.

Then Gateway out did that by opening largish brick and mortar stores for the sole purpose of showing you something you then ordered for home delivery. A whole store built for the purpose of showing you Gateway products without having to compare them to the corresponding Dells, HPs and E-Machines (or whatever).

Crap, I didn't realize the Zune was discontinued. I have a 30 gig that I like a lot, and I was waiting for the 120 gig to get cheap on ebay.

I know they are trying to drive sales to the Windows phone, but I listen to my mp3 player a lot. I don't want to be continually draining the battery on my only phone.

Joe Peanut: Aldous Huxley. Brave New World

Ah. Haven't read that since high school. The ranking system in Cyteen seemed awfully familiar.