illegal.tender: It baffles me why so many on Fark seem to think that expressing skepticism is ok when it comes to religion, but utterly and completely ridiculous when applied to government.

You are correct. Government, just like religion, inherently, invariably, and directly invokes supernatural events and a complete suspension of the known physical properties of the universe. The two subjects are thus directly comparable.

Quick! Quick! I discovered that Osama bin Laden had close ties with other organizations & countries, too, through these recently discovered, yet not-so-secret, documents:

Under Operation Cyclone from 1979 to 1989, the United States provided financial aid and weapons to the mujahideen through Pakistan's Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI). Bin Laden met and built relations with Hamid Gul, who was a three-star general in the Pakistani army and head of the ISI agency. Although the United States provided the money and weapons, the training of militant groups was entirely done by the Pakistani Armed Forces and the ISI.

Never forget Osama bin Laden was our boy first. We armed him, trained him, and used him as our errand boy during the Soviet war in Afghanistan.

I was more surprised about his close ties to Publishers Clearing House and his controlling interests in TV Guide and CatFancy.

illegal.tender: Express skepticism towards the official explanation?

"LOL herr durp you're such a tard."

The government lies all the time. It would surprise me exactly zero were it to come out that, for example, Osama bin Laden was a complete fabrication, start to finish.

I know, I know. "Herr durp, streetlights, troofer", and etc.

fark it. Governments lie to gain and maintain power. The most common way they do so is by propping up/creating various Emmanuel Goldsteins for the population to fear and hate. OBL fit both perfectly.

It baffles me why so many on Fark seem to think that expressing skepticism is ok when it comes to religion, but utterly and completely ridiculous when applied to government.

LOL herr durp you're such a tard.

No really you are. The biggest failing of conspiracy theories is that they assume that the US government is capable of enacting detailed plans involving many many people without us finding out when in fact a US ambassador cannot even make rude comments about Canada without wikileaks finding out. If the US brought down the WTC and OBL was a fabrication I think they might have found a way to smuggle some WMDs into Iraq so they could 'find' them.

The government doesn't know how the internet works, cannot balance a budget, and is running your country into the ground faster than an asteroid, and yet some people choose to believe that somehow they have the ability to outsmart all of us except for the conspiracy theorists. Which brings me to my second point. Have you ever meet a 'real' conspiracy theorist? They really aren't smarter than the 'sheeple' most of them are outright stupid. All these theories are is how the guy who bags your groceries or pumps your gas comes to terms with his station in life, he constructs a mental image of himself as smarter than everyone else which helps him cope with the inadequacies of his life.

FormlessOne: Quick! Quick! I discovered that Osama bin Laden had close ties with other organizations & countries, too, through these recently discovered, yet not-so-secret, documents:

Under Operation Cyclone from 1979 to 1989, the United States provided financial aid and weapons to the mujahideen through Pakistan's Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI). Bin Laden met and built relations with Hamid Gul, who was a three-star general in the Pakistani army and head of the ISI agency. Although the United States provided the money and weapons, the training of militant groups was entirely done by the Pakistani Armed Forces and the ISI.

Never forget Osama bin Laden was our boy first. We armed him, trained him, and used him as our errand boy during the Soviet war in Afghanistan.

Not exactly. It's not like we said "Hey, this is a guy we want to help." We worked with Pakistan and they were the one's who brought Osama, and a whole bunch of other people, in to the fold. We didn't exactly decide who, specifically, got arms and training.

I'm shocked! Shocked!

ArkPanda: This actually isn't 100% N.S. Sherlock. There's always been a small group that had no problem going after Al Qaeda, but couldn't understand why we went after the poor innocent Taliban that had nothing to do with it.

And that group was known as anti-war progressives THE TEA PARTY, IT HAD TO HAVE BEEN THE TEA PARTY BECAUSE THEY ARE EVERYTHING STUPID AND THE PROGRESSIVES ARE EVERYTHING SMART

/we are at war with Oceania
//we have always been at war with Oceania

Express skepticism towards the official explanation?

"LOL herr durp you're such a tard."

The government lies all the time. It would surprise me exactly zero were it to come out that, for example, Osama bin Laden was a complete fabrication, start to finish.

I know, I know. "Herr durp, streetlights, troofer", and etc.

fark it. Governments lie to gain and maintain power. The most common way they do so is by propping up/creating various Emmanuel Goldsteins for the population to fear and hate. OBL fit both perfectly.

It baffles me why so many on Fark seem to think that expressing skepticism is ok when it comes to religion, but utterly and completely ridiculous when applied to government.

This actually isn't 100% N.S. Sherlock. There's always been a small group that had no problem going after Al Qaeda, but couldn't understand why we went after the poor innocent Taliban that had nothing to do with it.

I remember my last 20 month erection. Seems like August 2010 was just yesterday.

I met Osama while attending King Abdulaziz University. We were on the water polo team together. The pool maintenance team hated him because he was hairy as a bear and shed like a sheepdog in heat. He was always clogging up the filters. It was gross playing with him because I was always picking his pubic hairs out of my mouth. He wore his speedos two sizes too small, and it looked like he was smuggling Bob Ross in the crotch.

Osama came from a very wealthy family too, so he'd often break the rules without consequences. Whenever he got the ball, he would get out of the pool with it, run over to the opposing side's goal and throw it in from behind the net. Typical spoiled brat behavior. When one team's coach complained, they found his head floating in the pool the next day. It wasn't fun to play with him, but there was no alternative.

He also liked to fart in the hot tub after practice. He would catch the bubbles in his mouth as they floated up. With a heavy diet of bean curd, hummus, and goat hoof, he had some serious gastrointestinal power. I'm glad he's dead so I don't have to smell his farts in the hot team van anymore. Fitting that he was buried at sea.

GAT_00: Diogenes: colinspooky: Amazing what fake docs can convince some people of

Oh, that would be a beautiful thing.

In the teabaggers' fervor to deny Obama's accomplishments they go so far as to claim it was all a setup. bin Laden was an innocent businessman set up as a patsy.

They might try that if things start looking grim for Romney.

GIS for grim romney
grim romney is a great band name

Whar Deth Certificat? Whar?