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2012-04-30 12:38:52 PM  

MrBallou: Dog Welder: I am a Republican. I disagree with President Obama on numerous issues.

On Bin Laden's death, I support Obama 100%. Obama made a gutsy call to send troops into Pakistan without Pakistan's permission, without knowing 100% that Bin Laden was at that compound. If the mission had failed, if Bin Laden had not actually been there, the fallout could have been disastrous and the end of Obama's career.

I'm not sure many other politicians could have made that call. But Obama did.

And I'm glad that utter bastard Bin Laden got riddled with bullets and dumped in the sea.

The Republicans started the fight back when this occurred, complaining that we shouldn't have killed the guy. Really? Then what have we been doing in Afghanistan these last 11 years, trying to NOT kill Bin Laden? I think that's when it became pretty damn obvious the GOP is nothing but noise and opposition to whatever Obama does, even if the end result is something that's pretty damn awesome.

There is no reason the GOP politicized this. None. They should have given the President a thumbs-up for it instead of sticking their thumbs up their collective asses.

Super subtle troll, or is he really coming into the light?


Check my posts from the last several months. I can admit that I've voted Republican most of my adult life. I firmly believe in Republican ideals of pro-business, lower taxes, smaller government, etc. However, the religious fundies running the GOP now are farking nuts.

Not trolling -- I'll admit someone does a good job when they do a good job. Obama was 100% correct on this call of violating another country's sovereignty (people in the Pakistani government were probably helping Bin Laden ... so fark 'em) and taking Bin Laden out.

The problem with this country is that the division between the two sides has become so filled with vitriol that our government can't get anything accomplished. The Dems don't have their hands 100% clean in this, either.

However, I'm looking at a pattern of the GOP:

1) GOP -- "We want this one thing to happen!"
2) The President responds with -- "Okay, let's make this one thing happen!"
3) GOP -- "That's the worst farking idea ever! Why would we do that? Obama's an idiot!"

It's happening over and over and over and over again. It's not good government. It's just being a bunch of obstructionist douchebags for the sake of being obstructionist douchebags.
 
2012-04-30 12:40:07 PM  

PC LOAD LETTER: Ummm...they were military commanders.


Madison, moron.
Polk, more like pansy
Abe Lincoln, what a fark.
William McKinnley, asshole.
Woodrow Wilson, douche.
FDR, whore.
George HW Bush, blowhard.
 
2012-04-30 12:40:50 PM  

Noam Chimpsky: HeartBurnKid: Noam Chimpsky: Bin laden and the Democrats were allies for years

Really? Really?

You're idiotic enough for thinking that Osama wouldn't have been executed after a trial.

On what basis could the Democrats condone the execution of a convicted McVeigh or Osama and argue against capital punishment in the future? You've already ran out of string on the diminished capacity defenses. Hollywood can only produce so many spools to keep that kite flying. Likewise with the melanin content defenses. No, your best strategy is to stick with the "it's always wrong to kill another human being" act.


I've missed the swarms of elected Democrats coming out against the death penalty. Either I've just overlooked it, or you have 'Democrats' confused with 'liberals'.

/hint: No matter what Fox and Lord Limbaugh tell you, the vast majority of Democrats aren't left-wing.
 
2012-04-30 12:41:15 PM  

Noam Chimpsky: cameroncrazy1984: Noam Chimpsky: Bloody William: Noam Chimpsky: Jake Havechek: Noam Chimpsky: The asshole made the SEALs stand ready waiting for the "gutsy" order to put a bullet in bin laden's head while he slept on it.

You America hating bastard. How much does al qaeda pay you?

Would you have slept on it?

Is it fun being full of bullshiat? Is this something you actually enjoy, or is it just a habit?

Would you have slept on it?

Let's see, 50% chance bin Laden is there, in a foreign country, and failure means fifteen SEALs are dead.

Yeah, I think I would.

I think it was more than 50%, but would the odds get better or worse after a good night's sleep? I don't see any way the odds could improve, but Osama could have slipped away while Obama was drooling on his pillow.

If Obama was so concerned about the lives of the SEALs, he wouldn't have had them hang around there for an hour when it takes 30 seconds to find Osama and put a bullet in his head. They could have been in and out of there with a living bin laden in 2 minutes. And then we could have tortured the piss out of him and killed him later.


So at least you concead that Obama was responsible for the actions taken on that day. That is a start.
 
2012-04-30 12:42:45 PM  

jigger: So, Obama is a general now?


Nope, he is Commander In Chief of the United States military. ALL personnel take their orders from him, either directly or indirectly.

If you hadn't been homeschooled, you probably would have learned this around the 7th grade.
 
2012-04-30 12:44:09 PM  

skullkrusher: what's the opposite of giggity?


sfcitizen.com?
 
2012-04-30 12:46:27 PM  

Noam Chimpsky: HeartBurnKid: Noam Chimpsky: Bin laden and the Democrats were allies for years

Really? Really?

You're idiotic enough for thinking that Osama wouldn't have been executed after a trial.

On what basis could the Democrats condone the execution of a convicted McVeigh or Osama and argue against capital punishment in the future? You've already ran out of string on the diminished capacity defenses. Hollywood can only produce so many spools to keep that kite flying. Likewise with the melanin content defenses. No, your best strategy is to stick with the "it's always wrong to kill another human being" act.


One, I'm not against the death penalty. I'm just against streamlining it; if you're going to kill someone, you better be damn sure you've got the right guy.

Two, McVeigh was sentenced to death while Clinton was president.

You really have no farking connection with reality.
 
2012-04-30 12:46:53 PM  
Meanwhile, Romney's Bain Team Six -- an elite cadre of lawyers and accountants -- are unleashed with borrowed money to ruthlessly capture and destroy under-performing American companies -- throwing thousands out of work -- to make the world safe for multi-national capitalism.
 
2012-04-30 12:48:46 PM  

That Masked Man: Obama Reagan was lucky enough to be in office when OBL was found and killed the Berlin Wall fell!


It's actually true this way. But that doesn't stop the GOP from telling that story over and over and over.
 
2012-04-30 12:50:37 PM  

HeartBurnKid: Noam Chimpsky: HeartBurnKid: Noam Chimpsky: Bin laden and the Democrats were allies for years

Really? Really?

You're idiotic enough for thinking that Osama wouldn't have been executed after a trial.

On what basis could the Democrats condone the execution of a convicted McVeigh or Osama and argue against capital punishment in the future? You've already ran out of string on the diminished capacity defenses. Hollywood can only produce so many spools to keep that kite flying. Likewise with the melanin content defenses. No, your best strategy is to stick with the "it's always wrong to kill another human being" act.

One, I'm not against the death penalty. I'm just against streamlining it; if you're going to kill someone, you better be damn sure you've got the right guy.

Two, McVeigh was sentenced to death while Clinton was president.

You really have no farking connection with reality.


Me, I think the Death Penalty is the easy way out for a convicted murderer. I think more suffering would be done if he was in prison for 50+ years rather than sticking a needle in him and killing him.
 
2012-04-30 12:51:46 PM  

LordJiro:

You are one crazy, bloodthirsty, unAmerican motherfarker, you know that?


I guess you are whiningly admitting that the Democrats would never extract information from a captured bin laden. I'm sure you can understand the political problem that would create for them.
 
2012-04-30 12:52:01 PM  

Mikey1969: jigger: So, Obama is a general now?

Nope, he is Commander In Chief of the United States military. ALL personnel take their orders from him, either directly or indirectly.

If you hadn't been homeschooled, you probably would have learned this around the 7th grade.



Take it easy, this is the same guy that believes if you don't like what a Corporation is doing with regard to SuperPACs, you can just take your investments elsewhere. Even though there is currently no law making said corporation publicly divulge any information of their doings with SuperPACs.
 
2012-04-30 12:53:32 PM  
Is he still talking? fark me, this isn't even a strawman argument anymore. It's a crazy homeless guy fighting ghosts in an underpass.
 
2012-04-30 12:54:28 PM  

danfrank: That Masked Man: Reagan was lucky enough to be in office when OBL was found and killed the Berlin Wall fell he cut and ran in Lebanon after a targeted strike on American military personnel!

It's actually true this way. But that doesn't stop the GOP from telling that story over and over and over.


True this way, too.
 
2012-04-30 12:54:42 PM  

Bloody William: Is he still talking? fark me, this isn't even a strawman argument anymore. It's a crazy homeless guy fighting farking ghosts in an underpass.


FTFY

/That's how I first read it and it made more sense to me
 
2012-04-30 12:55:21 PM  

More_Like_A_Stain: Magorn: MrBallou: More_Like_A_Stain: Bush blinked at Tora Bora, and then couldn't be bothered with looking for OBL after. Just another in a long string of failures. So no. Is there anything that GWB was successful at in his entire life? As a student, a TANG pilot, a businessman, or a President? Just one? Anything that can be pointed to and honestly claim "for that alone, the world is a better place"?

QFT. Anybody have an answer? We'll accept anything above the level of clearing brush.

Well, he is highly regarded in Africa for his work on AIDS prevention, but I think that is where is accomplishments begin and end, and honestly I think Condi had a lot more to do with making that an administration priotiy than Bush did

Okay. That counts as a legitimate plus in my book. But didn't he screw that up too, by tying it to faith based abstinence nonsense?


Yeah as a matter of fact, If I recall my angry anti-Bush blogging days I seem to recall a GAO report that said one of his prevention efforts "did more harm than good" because of the Abstinence Only strings attached
 
2012-04-30 12:55:27 PM  
It's amazing how fast you can go through this thread if you skip over the parts that start:
Noam Chimpsky:
 
2012-04-30 12:58:10 PM  

Forgot_my_password_again: Mrtraveler01: That robbed you of your faith in humanity?

Last week I turned the TV on and they told me that kids are getting high/drunk with hand sanitizer.

THAT robbed me of my faith in humanity.

I haven't had faith in humanity since 2 girls 1 cup.


I lost some faith in humanity when a poll of young people back in 1994 had the death of Kurt Kobain rated more catastrophic than the genocide in Rwanda.
 
2012-04-30 12:58:25 PM  

MyRandomName: HotWingConspiracy: MyRandomName: Yes. A one day low man op is exactly the same as the planning that went into world war 2. Seriously a dumb conjecture.

Americans are just relieved we didn't have McCain as president when we located bin Laden. He had already stated that he would never go in to Pakistan to get him and Obama was naive for saying he would.

Thank goodness a man of action was in place to seize the moment, not some republican eager to appease the corrupted Pakistanis.

Heh. The irony of using bill Clinton in the campaign ad in regards to obl is lost on you I take it? The man who took hours trying to decide if entering foreign space illegally was worth the killing in 1998 essentially losing the opportunity. The political fall out from not making the order due to that knowledge made it easy on Obama.


That TV movie produced by those wingnuts is not what actually happened.
 
2012-04-30 12:58:27 PM  

Bloody William: Is he still talking? fark me, this isn't even a strawman argument anymore. It's a crazy homeless guy fighting ghosts in an underpass.


Heh... Considering the shellacking he's taking, it's almost like this:

www.filmmakersjournal.co.uk
 
2012-04-30 12:59:03 PM  
Question for the right wing troll accounts and the people who are actually on the right:
If every single airman and sailer on the raid died, I am to assume that NONE of the responsibility of their deaths would have fallen on Obama?
 
2012-04-30 01:00:11 PM  

Satanic_Hamster: Question for the right wing troll accounts and the people who are actually on the right:
If every single airman and sailer on the raid died, I am to assume that NONE of the responsibility of their deaths would have fallen on Obama?


well, he was praying that would happen so of course

/Prayer works
//Obama hates the military
 
2012-04-30 01:01:20 PM  

heinekenftw: So GOP, if Osama had died under Bush's command, you'd be saying that Bush deserves no credit and it was all the work of the Navy SEALS?

Somehow I doubt it.

/if Osama had been killed by American forces under Bush's watch, I would have given Bush his share of credit. It takes balls to commit men to a dangerous raid like this one.


Not when you're a war-dodging chicken hawk, like Bush.
 
2012-04-30 01:05:51 PM  

Noam Chimpsky: LordJiro:

You are one crazy, bloodthirsty, unAmerican motherfarker, you know that?

I guess you are whiningly admitting that the Democrats would never extract information from a captured bin laden. I'm sure you can understand the political problem that would create for them.


I'd imagine the Democrats would use normal interrogation (which is reliable) rather than torture (which is unreliable, unethical, and, oh yeah, ILLEGAL).

As for the execution...If we'd captured bin Laden, I would, personally, be against executing him. Let him rot in jail for the rest of his miserable existence. Let al-Qaeda watch their leader waste away into nothing, into a pathetic shell, only alive because of America's mercy. It'd drive them even more bonkers.

But none of that matters, because the military got plenty of intel from his files, and Obama did what previous Presidents didn't (And his opponent explicitly said he WOULDN'T do). Osama is dead, and al Qaeda is no longer a threat. Sure, bloodthirsty Republicans didn't get to watch us torture and kill Osama on Pay Per View to get their rocks off, but hey, we all make sacrifices.
 
2012-04-30 01:06:29 PM  

Magorn: More_Like_A_Stain: Magorn: MrBallou: More_Like_A_Stain: Bush blinked at Tora Bora, and then couldn't be bothered with looking for OBL after. Just another in a long string of failures. So no. Is there anything that GWB was successful at in his entire life? As a student, a TANG pilot, a businessman, or a President? Just one? Anything that can be pointed to and honestly claim "for that alone, the world is a better place"?

QFT. Anybody have an answer? We'll accept anything above the level of clearing brush.

Well, he is highly regarded in Africa for his work on AIDS prevention, but I think that is where is accomplishments begin and end, and honestly I think Condi had a lot more to do with making that an administration priotiy than Bush did

Okay. That counts as a legitimate plus in my book. But didn't he screw that up too, by tying it to faith based abstinence nonsense?

Yeah as a matter of fact, If I recall my angry anti-Bush blogging days I seem to recall a GAO report that said one of his prevention efforts "did more harm than good" because of the Abstinence Only strings attached


So, does that completely cancel out the "one legitimate success"? Or just attach an asterisk?
 
2012-04-30 01:09:26 PM  
Reagan wasn't in office when the Berlin wall fell
 
2012-04-30 01:09:32 PM  

Man On A Mission: PC LOAD LETTER: Ummm...they were military commanders.

Unclear on that whole "Commander in Chief" thing, are you?

/ he made the tough call, he gets the credit


I didn't say he didn't get credit. I am making a point that the comparison is bad and he would get DIFFERENT credit. It's a dumb analogy.
 
2012-04-30 01:10:11 PM  

Jake Havechek: 1. Mitt Romney is "too rich" to be president. Mitt Romney's net worth is almost identical ($250 million) to the Democratic Party's 2004 nominee, John Kerry ($240 million). If Democrats had no problem with a rich guy running for president in 2004, why now?


Note that Kerry lost. Portraying him as a rich, New England elitist worked pretty well for the Republicans that time; they've been trying to use that tactic again, with laughable results.

2. President Obama killed Osama bin Laden: Romney might not have. The Navy SEALS, not Barack Obama, killed Osama bin Laden. To suggest otherwise is an insult to their bravery and valor. Besides, does any serious person honestly believe that any president--of either party--would not have pulled the trigger when informed that Osama bin Laden was in the cross-hairs? Really?

I take it you haven't had to hear right wingnuts complain about Obama ordering the killing of an unarmed civilian in his own home. There are Republicans who at least claim that they would not have pulled the trigger. Whether they believe what they are saying is another matter entirely.

3. Young people will vote for President Obama again because he is "cooler" than Romney, as is evidenced by his appearances on Jimmy Fallon. College-age voters are over "cool." They want jobs and can't find them.

The Republicans don't exactly have anything to show on that front either. Every time Republicans introduce another anti-birth control or invasive ultrasound bill, there is a chorus of liberals saying "And this will create jobs and reduce the deficit...how, exactly?"

One out of every two college graduates will soon hit the Obama economy's wall of reality and join the growing ranks of the unemployed. Romney may not be "cool," but he looks like that family friend mom and dad said to go see because his successful company is hiring.

Which means he also looks like the scores of guys who didn't hire you and/or the bastard who laid you off from you last job. He even admitted that he liked being able to fire people.

Put simply, Romney may not be the "iPod President," but he sure looks like the "Paycheck President." And that's very cool.

I not aware of any evidence that young people associate the sight of Mitt Romney with the hope of being employed. This sounds like quite a stretch.

4. President Obama is fighting those evil meany Republicans and their "War on Women." The Obama economy has been a disaster for female employment. Nine out of ten jobs lost under Obama belonged to women. Female voters are over the "hope and change." They have kids to feed and family budgets to balance. They want to work and earn higher wages. Obama has failed to produce either.

Overall, employment has been improving since early in the Obama administration; the graph showing that has been posted too many times on Fark already, so I won't embed it again. Of the unemployed women I know, not one blames Obama, they still remember that the descent into economic hell took place in the last year of an eight-year Republican administration (during most of which the Republicans also controlled congress) and they are pretty pissed about the Republican opposition to birth control and the Violence against Women act.

5. President Obama grew up poor and therefore has more compassion and willingness to maintain the social safety net. President Obama's parents were professors, hardly a destitute upbringing (the Washington Post says Stanley Ann Dunham Soetoro, Obama's mother, made what would today be a $123,000 salary-a figure that would place her in the top six percent of all individual income ea ...

According to Republicans, an annual family income of $250,000 doesn't even qualify as middle class.
 
2012-04-30 01:10:21 PM  

thomps: i don't know if it's "taking credit away from the SEALS," but questioning whether romney would have made the same choice is cheap politics.


Why? Romney's on record saying that Obama should not do missions in Pakistan. The GOP were cowards. Obama was not.

It's an effective shot. Not a cheap one.
 
2012-04-30 01:10:29 PM  

Il Douchey: Reagan wasn't in office when the Berlin wall fell


Yeah and contrary to popular belief among Republicans. He had jack squat to do with that either.
 
2012-04-30 01:12:58 PM  

PC LOAD LETTER: Man On A Mission: PC LOAD LETTER: Ummm...they were military commanders.

Unclear on that whole "Commander in Chief" thing, are you?

/ he made the tough call, he gets the credit

I didn't say he didn't get credit. I am making a point that the comparison is bad and he would get DIFFERENT credit. It's a dumb analogy.


So he should get some kind of separate, but equal credit?
 
2012-04-30 01:18:17 PM  

tenpoundsofcheese: Let 0bama run on the fact that 0sama is dead platform.

People realize that he can't kill 0sama again.

The more he can distract people from the economy, the better off he is.


Evasion noted. Troll harder.
 
2012-04-30 01:19:10 PM  

Mrtraveler01: Yeah and contrary to popular belief among Republicans. He had jack squat to do with that either.


You really believe that Reagan was unrelated to the fall of the Berlin wall?

I mean I get that he didn't singlehandedly push the thing down, and that there were many convergent socio-economic and geo-political factors at play. No one can reasonably assert that Regan is solely (or maye even primarily) responsible for the fall of the Berlin wall or the collapse of the Soviet Union.

But are you earnestly arguing that Reagan had no role whatsoever, and did not sunstanatively contribute in any way?
 
2012-04-30 01:19:11 PM  

Bloody William: Bored with the stupidity. Another one added to the list. Plonk.


Maybe you should sleep on it before making that sort of decision.
 
2012-04-30 01:19:42 PM  

Forgot_my_password_again: [images1.dailykos.com image 550x278]



"Bin Laden's Dead"...what? His dead mother? One of his wives? His cat? His body?

Both seem to piss off republicans.

I don't think they're affected by apostrophe abuse.

/Grammar Al Qaeda
 
2012-04-30 01:20:43 PM  

Satanic_Hamster: Question for the right wing troll accounts and the people who are actually on the right:
If every single airman and sailer on the raid died, I am to assume that NONE of the responsibility of their deaths would have fallen on Obama?


Playing Devil's Advocate here, if a bunch of brave men were sent on an ill-conceived mission by a fool, there would be no inconsistency in saying, if they succeeded, that they did so in spite of their leadership and if they failed, that they did so because of their leadership. Just sayin'.
 
2012-04-30 01:21:16 PM  

Craptastic: Bloody William: Bored with the stupidity. Another one added to the list. Plonk.

Maybe you should sleep on it before making that sort of decision.


Really? You're going with "sleep on it?" Man, you guys are really reaching to make bin Laden's death a bad thing.
 
2012-04-30 01:22:33 PM  

More_Like_A_Stain: So he should get some kind of separate, but equal credit?


You sir, are a treasure!
 
2012-04-30 01:22:40 PM  

pciszek: According to Republicans, an annual family income of $250,000 doesn't even qualify as middle class.


Actually, According to OBAMA and the Democrats, that's the dividing line for Teh RICH! Apparantly, anyone earniong above $250K a year is subject to being taxed extra since they are "rich".

Obama created the arbitray 250K dividing line between 'regular working class Americans and the evil freeloading rich. Below that line, no new taxes. Above that line, fair game.
 
2012-04-30 01:22:52 PM  
Applying Freeper/Conservatard logic to this, one can invalidate just about anything.

John F. Kennedy doesn't deserve credit for averting a nuclear holocaust during the Cuban Missile Crisis.

FDR doesn't deserve credit for pulling our nation through the Great Depression.

Barack Obama doesn't deserve credit for the ordering and overseeing of the raid that killed Osama bin Laden (and the decapitating of Al'Qaida), the criminal mastermind who coordinated and ordered the killing of thousands of Americans.

You conservative nutjobs need to form an enclave in Arizona or Montana and secede from the Union. NO ONE will be sorry to see you go. Your behavior is analogous to that of the Southern states in the decades leading up to the Civil War.
 
2012-04-30 01:23:24 PM  

Lando Lincoln: thomps: i don't know if it's "taking credit away from the SEALS," but questioning whether romney would have made the same choice is cheap politics.

Why? Romney's on record saying that Obama should not do missions in Pakistan. The GOP were cowards. Obama was not.

It's an effective shot. Not a cheap one.


hmm i guess if that's the way it's framed, i'm ok with it. my assumption was that it was something along the lines of "hey look at this quivering pussy over here, he's too chickensh*t to pull the trigger."
 
2012-04-30 01:25:23 PM  

atomsmoosher: "Bin Laden's Dead"...what? His dead mother? One of his wives? His cat? His body?


It's not correct to say "Bin Ladens dead" so the apostrophe is correct in this case. It is a contraction of "Bin Laden is dead."
 
2012-04-30 01:25:35 PM  

BojanglesPaladin: pciszek: According to Republicans, an annual family income of $250,000 doesn't even qualify as middle class.

Actually, According to OBAMA and the Democrats, that's the dividing line for Teh RICH! Apparantly, anyone earniong above $250K a year is subject to being taxed extra since they are "rich".

Obama created the arbitray 250K dividing line between 'regular working class Americans and the evil freeloading rich. Below that line, no new taxes. Above that line, fair game.


Sounds good.
 
2012-04-30 01:26:23 PM  

Lando Lincoln: atomsmoosher: "Bin Laden's Dead"...what? His dead mother? One of his wives? His cat? His body?

It's not correct to say "Bin Ladens dead" so the apostrophe is correct in this case. It is a contraction of "Bin Laden is dead."


Failed grammar troll has failed.
 
2012-04-30 01:26:56 PM  

BojanglesPaladin: Mrtraveler01: Yeah and contrary to popular belief among Republicans. He had jack squat to do with that either.

You really believe that Reagan was unrelated to the fall of the Berlin wall?

I mean I get that he didn't singlehandedly push the thing down, and that there were many convergent socio-economic and geo-political factors at play. No one can reasonably assert that Regan is solely (or maye even primarily) responsible for the fall of the Berlin wall or the collapse of the Soviet Union.

But are you earnestly arguing that Reagan had no role whatsoever, and did not sunstanatively contribute in any way?


I think Reagan's "Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" was about as useful to the Cold War as Bush's "Mission Accomplished" speech to the war on terror. Did Reagan contribute to the fall of the Soviet Union? Probably, but not as much as its own actions and the revolutions and protests in the Eastern Bloc. There's a reason the wall wasn't torn down until 2 years after Reagan made that speech that many conservatives appear to believe was a rousing argument that won the Cold War.
 
2012-04-30 01:27:30 PM  

LordJiro: Osama is dead, and al Qaeda is no longer a threat.


That kind of thinking can get dangerous. Less of a threat, I would agree. No threat at all is not a safe call, it's how we get more 9/11 types of incidents.
 
2012-04-30 01:27:33 PM  

hubiestubert: They HAVE to spin this away from the President, or they are going to have to admit that their presumptive candidate has got little but a failed Presidential bid last go around, and a Governorship that saw an awful lot of compromise that they just can't stomach in the current climate.


They're really grasping at straws right now. Look at this fw:fw:fw:fw I received this morning and see if you can match the talking points to their recent headlines:


Which side of the fence?

If you ever wondered which side of the fence you sit on, this is a great test!
If a Republican doesn't like guns, he doesn't buy one.
If a Democrat doesn't like guns, he wants all guns outlawed.

If a Republican is a vegetarian, he doesn't eat meat.
If a Democrat is a vegetarian, he wants all meat products banned for everyone.

If a Republican is homosexual, he quietly leads his life.
If a Democrat is homosexual, he demands legislated respect.

If a Republican is down-and-out, he thinks about how to better his situation.
A Democrat wonders who is going to take care of him.

If a Republican doesn't like a talk show host, he switches channels.
Democrats demand that those they don't like be shut down.

If a Republican is a non-believer, he doesn't go to church.
A Democrat non-believer wants any mention of God and religion silenced.

If a Republican decides he needs health care, he goes about shopping for it, or may choose a job that provides it..
A Democrat demands that the rest of us pay for his.

If a Republican reads this, he'll forward it so his friends can have a good laugh.
A Democrat will delete it because he's "offended".

Well, I forwarded it.
 
2012-04-30 01:28:09 PM  

thomps: hmm i guess if that's the way it's framed, i'm ok with it. my assumption was that it was something along the lines of "hey look at this quivering pussy over here, he's too chickensh*t to pull the trigger."


That kind of rhetoric wouldn't even raise an eyebrow if a Republican tried to assert that against a Democrat. The Republicans are pissed that they can't do that with Obama.
 
2012-04-30 01:28:10 PM  

Lionel Mandrake: BojanglesPaladin: pciszek: According to Republicans, an annual family income of $250,000 doesn't even qualify as middle class.

Actually, According to OBAMA and the Democrats, that's the dividing line for Teh RICH! Apparantly, anyone earniong above $250K a year is subject to being taxed extra since they are "rich".

Obama created the arbitray 250K dividing line between 'regular working class Americans and the evil freeloading rich. Below that line, no new taxes. Above that line, fair game.

Sounds good.


Yeah, I don't really see the problem. It's a generous threshold above which taxes can reasonably be raised without significantly hurting the taxed party's ability to provide for themselves and their family.
 
2012-04-30 01:28:18 PM  

Noam Chimpsky: Anyone know why the Democrats didn't have the guts to execute Timothy McVeigh after he was convicted and sentenced to death? It's hard to understand considering how gutsy Democrats are.


I'll let this guy give you the answer:

2.bp.blogspot.com

"Don't give the prick the satisfaction", Sir!
 
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