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(CNN)   Applying GOP logic to Obama "taking credit away from the SEALS", how dare Eisenhower take credit for D-Day, Patton for winning the Battle of the Bulge, and that pesky MacArthur for taking back the Philippines   (edition.cnn.com) divider line 689
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2012-04-30 11:02:05 AM

Bloody William: I would have deliberated. I would have considered. I would have even spent some time thinking about whether or not it was a good idea. Or, colloquially, I would have slept on it.


I bet you would have slept on 15 SEALs.
 
2012-04-30 11:02:11 AM
Watching the Conservatives/GOP apologists get so butthurt over this is very delightful and entertaining to watch.

I imagine that if the mission was botched, the GOP wouldn't spend every waking day pinning a failed mission on Obama, especially considering that they keep insisting that Obama had very little to do with this, amirght?

Another example:

GOP: Obama hasn't done enough in Libya
Obama: I'm teaming up with France and the UK to help the opposition forces there
GOP: Obama is doing too much in Libya
(Qadaffi is toppled)
GOP: Obama didn't have anything to do with that, it was all thanks to France and the UK.

These people have absolutely no shame it seems.
 
2012-04-30 11:03:00 AM
weknowmemes.com

Well its a better method of attacking Obama than saying that he's "too cool" That was one of the worst lines of attack that I've ever seen.
 
2012-04-30 11:03:06 AM

Dog Welder: Then what have we been doing in Afghanistan these last 11 years, trying to NOT kill Bin Laden?


QFT
 
2012-04-30 11:04:33 AM

That Masked Man: thomps: That Masked Man: Obama was lucky enough to be in office when OBL was found and killed!

so brave

wow i think the only way you could have exerted less effort in that troll is if you hadn't bothered to bold the punchline.

It was a half-assed troll for a pointless argument. Anyone in the world would have authorized a trigger pulled on OBL in those conditions and to say otherwise is ridiculous.

You know, assuming OBL was even really killed in the manner they state he was killed, and all that other "Since when can you trust the goverment?" business.


ANYONE???

I don't know where he is. I really just don't spend that much time on him, to be honest with you.

-- George W. Bush



And you're honestly claiming that the raid -- which was confirmed by Pakistan and Al Qaeda to have happened -- didn't actually happen!?


The only reason the GOP is paying you more than you deserve to parrot this BS is because of federal minimum wage laws.
 
2012-04-30 11:06:53 AM

Lord_Baull: heap: qorkfiend:
I don't think I've ever seen a clearer example of "deliberately obtuse".

where has Dancin' been, btw?

sorry, quoted phrase made me think of the master


You've been here long enough to remember FlashLV. That idiot could take anything you say, twist it into obvlivion and act like you're not talking about the same thread. Master of Obfuscation and Deflection.


he took it so far over the top it was impossible to take seriously, especially if anyone involved in the discussion got tazed.
 
2012-04-30 11:06:56 AM

Dog Welder: I am a Republican. I disagree with President Obama on numerous issues...[T]here is no reason the GOP politicized this. None. They should have given the President a thumbs-up for it instead of sticking their thumbs up their collective asses.


The give a little/get a lot back approach. If they were smart instead of just knee-jerking against anything Obama does, the GOP could've shown a marginal amount of support to look like something that resembles adults. Then they could intelligently leverage that, maybe using it as an example of "meeting the Left halfway." Instead they held their breath till their faces turned blue. I'd be embarrassed if I were their constituency.
 
2012-04-30 11:07:41 AM

Dog Welder: I am a Republican. I disagree with President Obama on numerous issues.

On [[a certain topic]], I support Obama [[more than zero]]%


You're not a Republican anymore, you're a RINO.
 
2012-04-30 11:07:57 AM

Noam Chimpsky: GameSprocket: Noam Chimpsky: Anyone know why the Democrats didn't have the guts to execute Timothy McVeigh after he was convicted and sentenced to death? It's hard to understand considering how gutsy Democrats are.

Unsurprisingly, you have a very odd sense of what courage actually means.

Are you saying that not executing Timothy McVeigh demonstrated guts from the Democrats whereas Bush executing Timothy McVeigh as soon as he took office demonstrated cowardice?


Executing an unarmed man who is locked in a cell is not particularly brave.
 
2012-04-30 11:08:20 AM

Noam Chimpsky: GameSprocket: Noam Chimpsky: Anyone know why the Democrats didn't have the guts to execute Timothy McVeigh after he was convicted and sentenced to death? It's hard to understand considering how gutsy Democrats are.

Unsurprisingly, you have a very odd sense of what courage actually means.

Are you saying that not executing Timothy McVeigh demonstrated guts from the Democrats whereas Bush executing Timothy McVeigh as soon as he took office demonstrated cowardice?


What did Bush have to do with the execution of Timothy McVeigh?

skullkrusher: LeoffDaGrate: skullkrusher: President, General, General, General.
Need some help with your logic application, subster

Commander-in-Chief, General, General, General.
Need some help with your chain-of-command, replier.

nope.


You sure? Cause there's a reason Obama had to make the decision on whether to go in..
 
2012-04-30 11:08:52 AM

Noam Chimpsky: GameSprocket: Noam Chimpsky: Anyone know why the Democrats didn't have the guts to execute Timothy McVeigh after he was convicted and sentenced to death? It's hard to understand considering how gutsy Democrats are.

Unsurprisingly, you have a very odd sense of what courage actually means.

Are you saying that not executing Timothy McVeigh demonstrated guts from the Democrats whereas Bush executing Timothy McVeigh as soon as he took office demonstrated cowardice?


"I like sandwiches!"
 
2012-04-30 11:09:02 AM

That Masked Man: thomps: That Masked Man: Obama was lucky enough to be in office when OBL was found and killed!

so brave

wow i think the only way you could have exerted less effort in that troll is if you hadn't bothered to bold the punchline.

It was a half-assed troll for a pointless argument. Anyone in the world would have authorized a trigger pulled on OBL in those conditions and to say otherwise is ridiculous.

You know, assuming OBL was even really killed in the manner they state he was killed, and all that other "Since when can you trust the goverment?" business.


This is why you need to use your whole ass when trolling. It just makes you look stupid instead of trollishly deluded.
 
2012-04-30 11:10:17 AM

cameroncrazy1984: What did Bush have to do with the execution of Timothy McVeigh?


I don't think he realizes that McVeigh as executed 5 months before Bush was elected.
 
2012-04-30 11:10:25 AM

Dr Dreidel: Did you miss the Iraq War?


Nope.

Ordering a full-scale military invasion while backed by a blood-thirsty public is relatively easy. There was no chance that we were going to lose the initial assault. History has proven that Bush and Co. never thought past the initial invasion. He was just playing cowboy.
 
2012-04-30 11:11:29 AM

cameroncrazy1984: You sure? Cause there's a reason Obama had to make the decision on whether to go in..


Yes, I am quite sure that the analogy is crap.
 
2012-04-30 11:12:20 AM

King Something: That Masked Man: thomps: That Masked Man: Obama was lucky enough to be in office when OBL was found and killed!

so brave

wow i think the only way you could have exerted less effort in that troll is if you hadn't bothered to bold the punchline.

It was a half-assed troll for a pointless argument. Anyone in the world would have authorized a trigger pulled on OBL in those conditions and to say otherwise is ridiculous.

You know, assuming OBL was even really killed in the manner they state he was killed, and all that other "Since when can you trust the goverment?" business.

ANYONE???

I don't know where he is. I really just don't spend that much time on him, to be honest with you.

-- George W. Bush


And you're honestly claiming that the raid -- which was confirmed by Pakistan and Al Qaeda to have happened -- didn't actually happen!?


The only reason the GOP is paying you more than you deserve to parrot this BS is because of federal minimum wage laws.


Actually I just have a very vivid memory of all the lies and propaganda that our government has been pushing for the past decade a la Pat Tillman, Lynch, WMDs, constantly killing 'the second in command of AQ', etc etc.

The OBL killing came shortly after all (including my) military pay was all frozen for about 3 weeks causing pretty broad military discontent with our leaders, not to mention lots of late fees for broke and stupid privates who don't budget well.

But then, huzzah! Like mana from heaven, the Messiah told us that OBL was no more! And he removed from us any need to question this by disposing of the body. Place your faith in the God King!

rlv.zcache.com
 
2012-04-30 11:12:21 AM

Bloody William: cameroncrazy1984: What did Bush have to do with the execution of Timothy McVeigh?

I don't think he realizes that McVeigh as executed 5 months before Bush was elected.


McVeigh was executed on June 11, 2001.
 
2012-04-30 11:12:26 AM

Il Douchey: SealTeam6: "Mr. President, we have located BinLaden, should we kill him or let him go?"
Obama: "Uh, kill him"

Oh yeah, that ranks right up there with Operation Overlord. Never again can we doubt Barry's military prowess. This man has been in the trenches, confronted Hell straight on, and he did not flinch. Yes, he will flaunt this hard earned military gravitas -can you blame him?


You may want to google "Leon Panetta" and "handwritten Memo" before spouting off too much more

here I'll do it for you:

MEMO FOR THE RECORD Apr. 29, 2011, 10:35 a.m.

Received phone call from Tom Donilon who stated that the President made a decision with regard to AC1 [Abbottabad Compound 1]. The decision is to proceed with the assault. The timing, operational decision making and control are in Admiral McRaven's hands. The approval is provided on the risk profile presented to the President. Any additional risks are to be brought back to the President for his consideration. The direction is to go in and get bin Laden and if he is not there, to get out. Those instructions were conveyed to Admiral McRaven at approximately 10:45 am.


(and Have I been reading too mUch Neil Gaiman lately or does anyone else imagine a Spec Forces commander named "McRaven" as being an older grey bearded gentleman with an eye-patch?)
 
2012-04-30 11:12:27 AM
i've gotta admit...a sandwich sounds pretty damned tasty.
 
2012-04-30 11:12:35 AM

heinekenftw: jigger: So, Obama is a general now?

Uh no.

He's higher than a general. He's CinC.


Where's that picture of the angle?
 
2012-04-30 11:12:43 AM

Bloody William: cameroncrazy1984: What did Bush have to do with the execution of Timothy McVeigh?

I don't think he realizes that McVeigh as executed 5 months before Bush was elected.


Um... no
 
2012-04-30 11:13:16 AM

Lord_Baull: That Masked Man: Obama was lucky enough to be in office when OBL was found and killed finding and killing him was once again a priority for the Administration!

so brave


The fact that you keep wanting to forget that Bush no longer considered finding the man behind 3000 american deaths a priority is amusing.


Bush is behind more American deaths than that, so it's understandable.
 
2012-04-30 11:14:50 AM

cameroncrazy1984: Noam Chimpsky: Bloody William: Noam Chimpsky: Jake Havechek: Noam Chimpsky: The asshole made the SEALs stand ready waiting for the "gutsy" order to put a bullet in bin laden's head while he slept on it.

You America hating bastard. How much does al qaeda pay you?

Would you have slept on it?

Is it fun being full of bullshiat? Is this something you actually enjoy, or is it just a habit?

Would you have slept on it?

Let's see, 50% chance bin Laden is there, in a foreign country, and failure means fifteen SEALs are dead.

Yeah, I think I would.


I think it was more than 50%, but would the odds get better or worse after a good night's sleep? I don't see any way the odds could improve, but Osama could have slipped away while Obama was drooling on his pillow.

If Obama was so concerned about the lives of the SEALs, he wouldn't have had them hang around there for an hour when it takes 30 seconds to find Osama and put a bullet in his head. They could have been in and out of there with a living bin laden in 2 minutes. And then we could have tortured the piss out of him and killed him later.
 
2012-04-30 11:15:06 AM
Remember when the Generals and the Navy Seals dealt with all that diplomatic fallout for conducting a clandestine operation in an "ally's" territory w/o their permission.

qorkfiend: kbronsito: When troops under Jimmy Carter fark up a clandestine mission planned at the highest level, it means that he is an idiot and democrats are weak on defense. When troops under Obama are successful in a clandestine mission planned at the highest level, then its all about the troops and the president should get no credit.

And when Reagan farks up on several levels (including cutting and running), he's promoted to demigod.


Reagan single-handedly saved Grenada from the Russians and the Cubans. Since Grenada is one of the world's top producers of nutmeg and we need nutmeg to make eggnog... Reagan basically saved Christmas from the godless commies.
 
2012-04-30 11:15:46 AM
www.presidentsrus.com

This makes Dukakis in a tank look genuine
 
2012-04-30 11:16:03 AM
Obama should give more credit to the generals, like Bush did.

Oh, sorry. Did I say "give more credit to the generals?" I meant "fire the generals who don't follow his orders to a 'T.'"
 
2012-04-30 11:16:53 AM

Jake Havechek: Il Douchey: GAT_00: And who directed the intel agencies to go find him, and then sent them off to get him?

Hey GAT, I haven't come here to bury Barry, I come to praise him. His nod wasn't just some perfunctory detail to cap off a multi year effort. No sir. Without the complex strategery, fortitude and personal bravery of Obama, our military would be a shambles of confusion. Nobody else could have figured out the proper decision to make. His position amongst the great military leaders like Washington and Churchill is assured. He did it all my friends, he did it all.

Well you see, Bush didn't care about getting the guy who okayed the biggest terrorist attack in history, he was much more interested in getting 5,000 Americans killed in Iraq so he could strut around on an aircraft carrier and call himself a "war president" on TV.

Do the souls of Americans Bush sent to die for no reason haunt him at night?


Shakespeare seemed to think so:


But if the cause be not good, the King himself hath a heavy reckoning to make, when all those legs and arms and heads chopped off in a battle shall join together at the latter day, and cry all, 'We died at such a place'-some swearing, some crying for a surgeon, some upon their wives left poor behind them, some upon the debts they owe, some upon their children rawly left. I am afeard there are few die well that die in a battle, for how can they charitably dispose of anything, when blood is their argument?

Now, if these men do not die well, it will be a black matter for the King that led them to it
 
2012-04-30 11:17:16 AM

Salt Lick Steady: Bloody William: cameroncrazy1984: What did Bush have to do with the execution of Timothy McVeigh?

I don't think he realizes that McVeigh as executed 5 months before Bush was elected.

Um... no


He wasn't, but his execution date was set on January 16, 2001, four days before Bush took office.

Also, the original poster appears to have zero idea of how long the appeals process takes.
 
2012-04-30 11:17:20 AM

qorkfiend: Bloody William: cameroncrazy1984: What did Bush have to do with the execution of Timothy McVeigh?

I don't think he realizes that McVeigh as executed 5 months before Bush was elected.

McVeigh was executed on June 11, 2001.


Crap, my bad. Got the election-inauguration gap wrong.
 
2012-04-30 11:17:34 AM

Dog Welder: Then what have we been doing in Afghanistan these last 11 years, trying to NOT kill Bin Laden?


Increasing the military budget and enriching contractors while claiming ground in central Asia on the Grand Chessboard.

DUH.
 
2012-04-30 11:17:37 AM

Noam Chimpsky: cameroncrazy1984: Noam Chimpsky: Bloody William: Noam Chimpsky: Jake Havechek: Noam Chimpsky: The asshole made the SEALs stand ready waiting for the "gutsy" order to put a bullet in bin laden's head while he slept on it.

You America hating bastard. How much does al qaeda pay you?

Would you have slept on it?

Is it fun being full of bullshiat? Is this something you actually enjoy, or is it just a habit?

Would you have slept on it?

Let's see, 50% chance bin Laden is there, in a foreign country, and failure means fifteen SEALs are dead.

Yeah, I think I would.

I think it was more than 50%, but would the odds get better or worse after a good night's sleep? I don't see any way the odds could improve, but Osama could have slipped away while Obama was drooling on his pillow.

If Obama was so concerned about the lives of the SEALs, he wouldn't have had them hang around there for an hour when it takes 30 seconds to find Osama and put a bullet in his head. They could have been in and out of there with a living bin laden in 2 minutes. And then we could have tortured the piss out of him and killed him later.


Gee, maybe you should have been the general directing the mission in the field seeing how you're so goddamn smart.
 
2012-04-30 11:18:12 AM

Noam Chimpsky: If Obama was so concerned about the lives of the SEALs, he wouldn't have had them hang around there for an hour when it takes 30 seconds to find Osama and put a bullet in his head. They could have been in and out of there with a living bin laden in 2 minutes.


Out of what fresh head-borne bullshiat are you constructing this narrative?
 
2012-04-30 11:19:39 AM

Noam Chimpsky: I think it was more than 50%, but would the odds get better or worse after a good night's sleep? I don't see any way the odds could improve, but Osama could have slipped away while Obama was drooling on his pillow.

If Obama was so concerned about the lives of the SEALs, he wouldn't have had them hang around there for an hour when it takes 30 seconds to find Osama and put a bullet in his head. They could have been in and out of there with a living bin laden in 2 minutes. And then we could have tortured the piss out of him and killed him later


Oh, you were there? You knew the situation? Are you a member of the military, or a SEAL? How do you know how long it would take to kill bin Laden? Do you know the layout of the compound? Do you know how many people were in it? How many were armed?

If you knew all of this before Obama did, and you didn't tell anyone, you need to be arrested and charged with treason.
 
2012-04-30 11:20:04 AM

cameroncrazy1984: Salt Lick Steady: Bloody William: cameroncrazy1984: What did Bush have to do with the execution of Timothy McVeigh?

I don't think he realizes that McVeigh as executed 5 months before Bush was elected.

Um... no

He wasn't, but his execution date was set on January 16, 2001, four days before Bush took office.

Also, the original poster appears to have zero idea of how long the appeals process takes.


I didn't even want to get into it with the chimpster troll, but yeah.
 
2012-04-30 11:21:38 AM

Bloody William: qorkfiend: Bloody William: cameroncrazy1984: What did Bush have to do with the execution of Timothy McVeigh?

I don't think he realizes that McVeigh as executed 5 months before Bush was elected.

McVeigh was executed on June 11, 2001.

Crap, my bad. Got the election-inauguration gap wrong.


You are generally awesome, so no sweat.
 
2012-04-30 11:22:34 AM

cameroncrazy1984: Oh, you were there? You knew the situation? Are you a member of the military, or a SEAL? How do you know how long it would take to kill bin Laden? Do you know the layout of the compound? Do you know how many people were in it? How many were armed?

If you knew all of this before Obama did, and you didn't tell anyone, you need to be arrested and charged with treason.


I've played Rainbow Six maps that take hours. I have a hard time believing an operation in a sovereign nation, in a residential area, to find a single high-value target, could possibly be that smooth.
 
2012-04-30 11:23:12 AM

GameSprocket: Noam Chimpsky: GameSprocket: Noam Chimpsky: Anyone know why the Democrats didn't have the guts to execute Timothy McVeigh after he was convicted and sentenced to death? It's hard to understand considering how gutsy Democrats are.

Unsurprisingly, you have a very odd sense of what courage actually means.

Are you saying that not executing Timothy McVeigh demonstrated guts from the Democrats whereas Bush executing Timothy McVeigh as soon as he took office demonstrated cowardice?

Executing an unarmed man who is locked in a cell is not particularly brave.


Okay, so if Obama had captured bin laden such as Bush did with Ramzi Yousef, then the gutsy Democrat thing to do would be let him live? Can't torture him either, right?
 
2012-04-30 11:23:28 AM

Bloody William: cameroncrazy1984: Oh, you were there? You knew the situation? Are you a member of the military, or a SEAL? How do you know how long it would take to kill bin Laden? Do you know the layout of the compound? Do you know how many people were in it? How many were armed?

If you knew all of this before Obama did, and you didn't tell anyone, you need to be arrested and charged with treason.

I've played Rainbow Six maps that take hours. I have a hard time believing an operation in a sovereign nation, in a residential area, to find a single high-value target, could possibly be that smooth.


That's because you have a brain.
 
2012-04-30 11:23:29 AM

Bloody William: Out of what fresh head-borne bullshiat are you constructing this narrative?


No, it's a headboard narrative. His mom repeatedly knocked him into the headboard before he was born, but you can blame his dads for that.
 
2012-04-30 11:23:37 AM
For years red state tough guys have been bragging that if there was a President with the balls to put them within range of Bin Laden taking out the Al Qaeda leader would be a snap. Bush had seven years to do it and never got more than a two-week old whiff in Tora Bora. Obama takes the challenge and not only is Bin Laden dead but he does it smart and took Osama's rolodex and notes.

Obama fulfilled the deepest, horniest dreams of the right wing and they'll never forgive him for it. Because for a brief moment they got a boner for a black guy.
 
2012-04-30 11:23:39 AM
Obama gets credit for ordering the hit. Any American who was President would have done the same, and if it had gone pear-shaped, he would have taken the flak just as Carter did for the hostage rescue mission that failed.

But in the same way that he gets credit for the inhereted military and intelligence situation built up over the previous 8 years that made it possible, he also inhereted the economic and TARP situation.

Yes, there is a fair amount of apples and oranges here, but either Obama get credit for making the most of what he was given by the previous administration, or he doesn't.

Republicans can't reasonably deny him credit for killing Osama at the same time they demand he take responsibility for the economy.
Democrats can't reasonably give him credit for killing Osama at the same time they demand he has no responsibilty for the economy.

To my mind, nearly four years in, Obama is fully responsible for his economic policies and the state of the economy AND Obama is fully responsible for the killing of Osama.

Shocking as it may be for both Republicans AND Democrats, it turns out that The current President has done some things very well, and other things very poorly.
 
2012-04-30 11:24:09 AM

Noam Chimpsky: Okay, so if Obama had captured bin laden such as Bush did with Ramzi Yousef, then the gutsy Democrat thing to do would be let him live? Can't torture him either, right?


If you have information that we are torturing Ramzi Yousef, you need to report it, because that's against the law.

HOW ARE YOU FINDING OUT ALL OF THIS STUFF!
 
2012-04-30 11:24:25 AM
Gillespie, a former aide to former President George W. Bush and former chairman of the Republican National Committee, said utilizing the raid for political purposes is one of the reasons Obama has "become one of the most divisive presidents in American history."

Ironic that a BUSH aide would accuse ANY other President of being "divisive".

Fark these people, Obama's got to hear day in and day out 'What did he do for America?', and then when he SHOWS what he did for America, he has to listen to a bunch of "I can't believe he turned this into a political campaign ad'... Farked no matter WHAT he does, it seems. Jesus Himself could come down and ask Obama if it was possible for Jesus and God to have lunch with Obama one day, and the Right would suddenly decide that they aren't too keen on this whole 'Christianity' thing after all, as long as their position ran counter to Obama.

You farksticks on the Right need to grow up and start acting in the COUNTRY'S best interests, rather than your own.

At least Obama didn't throw on a flight suit, pretend to fly and then give a speech in front of a 'Mission Accomplished' banner YEARS before that Mission was ever Accomplished.
 
2012-04-30 11:24:53 AM

BojanglesPaladin: But in the same way that he gets credit for the inhereted military and intelligence situation built up over the previous 8 years that made it possible, he also inhereted the economic and TARP situation.


You mean the inherited closed CIA bin Laden office?
 
2012-04-30 11:25:16 AM

Dr Dreidel: GameSprocket: Noam Chimpsky: Jake Havechek: Noam Chimpsky: The asshole made the SEALs stand ready waiting for the "gutsy" order to put a bullet in bin laden's head while he slept on it.

You America hating bastard. How much does al qaeda pay you?

Would you have slept on it?

I am not sure I would have "slept on it", but I would have certainly taken some time to think about it. I'm sure in a simplified GOP world, it is easy to send a small team into a foreign country to make a military raid against a target who is "probably" actually there.

Not even counting the problems this raid causes with international relations and the possible loss of life involved, the Right would never have approved this raid because a failure would be political suicide. A failed military raid in the desert has never been a path to re-election.

/Not to mention that Obama killed the GOP's favorite boogeyman.

Did you miss the Iraq War?

Also, Bush is reported to have "consulted with a higher father" (to the exclusion of his actual father, a man with some actual war-in-Iraq experience) and little else before giving the order to bomb Baghdad. I don't know how that matches with "sleeping on it", but to me it reads "crammed before a final". Not really becoming of a C-in-C.

// I'm no model student, but with so much blood and treasure at stake, I'd do some damn homework


According to two people who were in the room when the conversation took place one the eve of the Iraq war; Bush was unaware that there were both Sunni and Shi'ite Muslims in Iraq and what that difference meant for his plans for post-war occupation of the country.


"Sunni? Shi'a? I thought Iraqis were Muslims" he is reported to have said.

GWB was truly "Reaganesque" if by that you mean "2nd term Reagan who was literally losing his mind to a horrific disease"
 
2012-04-30 11:26:25 AM

Mikey1969: Obama's got to hear day in and day out 'What did he do for America?', and then when he SHOWS what he did for America


Yeah seriously.

He brought us donuts. When was the last time the GOP shared their donuts with the rest of us?
 
2012-04-30 11:26:30 AM
Subby, I think you need to write articles for CNN. It would significantly increase the value of their shiat.
 
2012-04-30 11:26:45 AM

cameroncrazy1984: Noam Chimpsky: Okay, so if Obama had captured bin laden such as Bush did with Ramzi Yousef, then the gutsy Democrat thing to do would be let him live? Can't torture him either, right?

If you have information that we are torturing Ramzi Yousef, you need to report it, because that's against the law.

HOW ARE YOU FINDING OUT ALL OF THIS STUFF!


I think it's best to stop engaging him. He's clearly either a troll or a deranged right-wing obsessive.
 
2012-04-30 11:26:55 AM

Noam Chimpsky: If Obama was so concerned about the lives of the SEALs, he wouldn't have had them hang around there for an hour when it takes 30 seconds to find Osama and put a bullet in his head. They could have been in and out of there with a living bin laden in 2 minutes. And then we could have tortured the piss out of him and killed him later.

The raid was intended to take 40 minutes. All told, the time between the team's entry in and exit from the compound was 38 minutes. According to the Associated Press, the military offensive aspect of the raid was completed in the first 15 minutes.

- ala Wiki

It is almost like they thought they should grab some intel while they were there. Otherwise, they could have just sent a missile.
 
2012-04-30 11:27:55 AM

Mikey1969: "become one of the most divisive presidents in American history."


It's Obama's fault Republicans are partisan assholes.
 
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