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(CNN)   Applying GOP logic to Obama "taking credit away from the SEALS", how dare Eisenhower take credit for D-Day, Patton for winning the Battle of the Bulge, and that pesky MacArthur for taking back the Philippines   (edition.cnn.com) divider line 689
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2012-04-30 07:22:16 AM  
"We don't need to spike the football... We don't trot out this stuff as trophies" -President Obama, May 2011

...unless, of course, it would make an AWESOME campaign commercial. And, I gotta admit... it would.
 
2012-04-30 08:07:26 AM  
Ummm...they were military commanders.
 
2012-04-30 08:16:06 AM  
I don't know where he is. I really just don't spend that much time on him, to be honest with you.

-- George W. Bush
 
2012-04-30 08:39:21 AM  
SealTeam6: "Mr. President, we have located BinLaden, should we kill him or let him go?"
Obama: "Uh, kill him"

Oh yeah, that ranks right up there with Operation Overlord. Never again can we doubt Barry's military prowess. This man has been in the trenches, confronted Hell straight on, and he did not flinch. Yes, he will flaunt this hard earned military gravitas -can you blame him?
 
2012-04-30 08:42:27 AM  
www.joblessandless.com
Unlike other Presidents running on the accomplishments of the military during their term, Obama actually did it.
 
2012-04-30 08:46:29 AM  

PC LOAD LETTER: Ummm...they were military commanders.


Unclear on that whole "Commander in Chief" thing, are you?

/ he made the tough call, he gets the credit
 
2012-04-30 08:46:57 AM  
And how about that George Washington dude? Wayyyy overrated.
 
2012-04-30 08:48:56 AM  

Il Douchey: SealTeam6: "Mr. President, we have located BinLaden, should we kill him or let him go?"
Obama: "Uh, kill him"

Oh yeah, that ranks right up there with Operation Overlord. Never again can we doubt Barry's military prowess. This man has been in the trenches, confronted Hell straight on, and he did not flinch. Yes, he will flaunt this hard earned military gravitas -can you blame him?


And who directed the intel agencies to go find him, and then sent them off to get him?

Jake Havechek: I don't know where he is. I really just don't spend that much time on him, to be honest with you.

-- George W. Bush

 
2012-04-30 09:01:42 AM  
GAT_00: And who directed the intel agencies to go find him, and then sent them off to get him?

Hey GAT, I haven't come here to bury Barry, I come to praise him. His nod wasn't just some perfunctory detail to cap off a multi year effort. No sir. Without the complex strategery, fortitude and personal bravery of Obama, our military would be a shambles of confusion. Nobody else could have figured out the proper decision to make. His position amongst the great military leaders like Washington and Churchill is assured. He did it all my friends, he did it all.
 
2012-04-30 09:06:45 AM  

Il Douchey: GAT_00: And who directed the intel agencies to go find him, and then sent them off to get him?

Hey GAT, I haven't come here to bury Barry, I come to praise him. His nod wasn't just some perfunctory detail to cap off a multi year effort. No sir. Without the complex strategery, fortitude and personal bravery of Obama, our military would be a shambles of confusion. Nobody else could have figured out the proper decision to make. His position amongst the great military leaders like Washington and Churchill is assured. He did it all my friends, he did it all.


Mock it through exaggeration all you want. Obama accomplished in three years what Bush failed to accomplish in eight.

But this is stupid. It's stupid to give him all the credit and it's stupid to deny him any credit.
 
2012-04-30 09:10:29 AM  

Jake Havechek: I don't know where he is. I really just don't spend that much time on him, to be honest with you.

-- George W. Bush


Instead, we wound up with a war in Iraq.

Folks are going to be getting more and more desperate on this issue, because diffusing this issue has got to be done. Accomplishments as a Governor is all that Romney has, and considering how much energy was spent in trying to keep health care reform from passing, against a plan similar to the one that Romney himself took credit for on a smaller scale, it smells of desperation to try to cast a pall on a big positive on the President's side. They HAVE to spin this away from the President, or they are going to have to admit that their presumptive candidate has got little but a failed Presidential bid last go around, and a Governorship that saw an awful lot of compromise that they just can't stomach in the current climate.
 
2012-04-30 09:12:27 AM  

Il Douchey: GAT_00: And who directed the intel agencies to go find him, and then sent them off to get him?

Hey GAT, I haven't come here to bury Barry, I come to praise him. His nod wasn't just some perfunctory detail to cap off a multi year effort. No sir. Without the complex strategery, fortitude and personal bravery of Obama, our military would be a shambles of confusion. Nobody else could have figured out the proper decision to make. His position amongst the great military leaders like Washington and Churchill is assured. He did it all my friends, he did it all.


Well you see, Bush didn't care about getting the guy who okayed the biggest terrorist attack in history, he was much more interested in getting 5,000 Americans killed in Iraq so he could strut around on an aircraft carrier and call himself a "war president" on TV.

Do the souls of Americans Bush sent to die for no reason haunt him at night?
 
2012-04-30 09:13:55 AM  
yeah, but Eisenhower, Patton, and MacArthur weren't blah people.
 
2012-04-30 09:31:16 AM  
Team Obama released a video on Friday, partially narrated by former President Bill Clinton, that praised the president's decision to order the killing of the al Qaeda chief one year from Tuesday and questioned whether Romney would have made the same choice.

i don't know if it's "taking credit away from the SEALS," but questioning whether romney would have made the same choice is cheap politics.
 
2012-04-30 09:33:47 AM  

Jake Havechek: Well you see, Bush didn't care about getting the guy who okayed the biggest terrorist attack in history, he was much more interested in getting 5,000 Americans killed in Iraq so he could strut around on an aircraft carrier and call himself a "war president" on TV.

Do the souls of Americans Bush sent to die for no reason haunt him at night?


THIS

And, let me add, Barry didn't save the world with this decision. Seems like a no-brainer to me. Job needed doing and he got it done. Nuff said.

It would be weird not to mention it in the campaign, since it is a much bigger accomplishment that riding backseat onto an aircraft carrier for a cowboy moment.

I suspect that the King of Trolls has got this under control. Be interesting to see how it plays out.
 
2012-04-30 09:36:07 AM  

thomps: Team Obama released a video on Friday, partially narrated by former President Bill Clinton, that praised the president's decision to order the killing of the al Qaeda chief one year from Tuesday and questioned whether Romney would have made the same choice.

i don't know if it's "taking credit away from the SEALS," but questioning whether romney would have made the same choice is cheap politics Barack Obama is truly an American citizen, whether he is truly a Christian, whether he is a godless socialist intent on destroying America is perfectly fine.

 
2012-04-30 09:37:25 AM  

NuttierThanEver: thomps: Team Obama released a video on Friday, partially narrated by former President Bill Clinton, that praised the president's decision to order the killing of the al Qaeda chief one year from Tuesday and questioned whether Romney would have made the same choice.

i don't know if it's "taking credit away from the SEALS," but questioning whether romney would have made the same choice is cheap politics Barack Obama is truly an American citizen, whether he is truly a Christian, whether he is a godless socialist intent on destroying America is perfectly fine.


well yeah, that's sh*tty politics too. i thought we were all in agreement with that.
 
2012-04-30 09:49:53 AM  
Smart play by the GOP. Their nominee is weak on foreign policy. Romney waivers too much to seem credible enough to make the tough decisions Obama has had too make. They can downplay Obama's national security strength, but sooner or later, they're going to have to face up to Romney's wimpiness.
 
2012-04-30 09:55:46 AM  
Let me guess... The soppy vaginas in the GOP are outraged about Democrats mentioning the death of Osama Bin Ladin on the anniversary and reminding voters who was in office when it happened?

1.bp.blogspot.com
"It's not fair!!!! Killing foreigners is our thing!!!"
 
2012-04-30 09:57:14 AM  
Gillespie, a former aide to former President George W. Bush and former chairman of the Republican National Committee, said...Obama has "become one of the most divisive presidents in American history."

Thanks to wingnuts and teabaggers making shiat up about him.
 
2012-04-30 09:57:32 AM  
static.someecards.com
 
2012-04-30 09:57:45 AM  

keylock71: Let me guess... The soppy vaginas in the GOP are outraged about Democrats mentioning the death of Osama Bin Ladin on the anniversary and reminding voters who was in office when it happened?

[1.bp.blogspot.com image 300x200]
"It's not fair!!!! Killing foreigners is our thing!!!"


if only the dems had the decency to limit its emotion-loaded pandering to the death of thousands of american citizens rather than the death of one of our most well-known enemies.
 
2012-04-30 09:58:02 AM  
1. Mitt Romney is "too rich" to be president. Mitt Romney's net worth is almost identical ($250 million) to the Democratic Party's 2004 nominee, John Kerry ($240 million). If Democrats had no problem with a rich guy running for president in 2004, why now?

2. President Obama killed Osama bin Laden: Romney might not have. The Navy SEALS, not Barack Obama, killed Osama bin Laden. To suggest otherwise is an insult to their bravery and valor. Besides, does any serious person honestly believe that any president--of either party--would not have pulled the trigger when informed that Osama bin Laden was in the cross-hairs? Really?

3. Young people will vote for President Obama again because he is "cooler" than Romney, as is evidenced by his appearances on Jimmy Fallon. College-age voters are over "cool." They want jobs and can't find them. One out of every two college graduates will soon hit the Obama economy's wall of reality and join the growing ranks of the unemployed. Romney may not be "cool," but he looks like that family friend mom and dad said to go see because his successful company is hiring. Put simply, Romney may not be the "iPod President," but he sure looks like the "Paycheck President." And that's very cool.

4. President Obama is fighting those evil meany Republicans and their "War on Women." The Obama economy has been a disaster for female employment. Nine out of ten jobs lost under Obama belonged to women. Female voters are over the "hope and change." They have kids to feed and family budgets to balance. They want to work and earn higher wages. Obama has failed to produce either.

5. President Obama grew up poor and therefore has more compassion and willingness to maintain the social safety net. President Obama's parents were professors, hardly a destitute upbringing (the Washington Post says Stanley Ann Dunham Soetoro, Obama's mother, made what would today be a $123,000 salary-a figure that would place her in the top six percent of all individual income earners). Romney's millions of dollars in private charity donations more than demonstrate that he cares deeply about those in need. In 2010, Romney donated 14 percent of his income to charity. Vice President Joe Biden? An embarrassing 1.4 percent. In fact, it was only recently that President Obama upped his charitable giving. Before running for president, the Obamas gave just 6.1 percent to charity. They've since upped their charitable giving to match Romney's 14 percent.

Bottom line: if Obama wants to win reelection, his campaign team has some serious work to do. The five themes they've telegraphed thus far are easily refuted by the facts.



-- From Breitbart
 
2012-04-30 09:58:13 AM  
Shove it, GOP. If Bush had got Bin Laden during his term you know damn well there would have been a bravado filled victory speech and the dittoheads at Fox News would have ate it up. Farking classless, disingenuous scum, all of them.
 
2012-04-30 09:58:27 AM  
RNC 9/11 Video

How dare people politicize such things!
 
2012-04-30 09:59:11 AM  
GOP: "How dare Obama snuff out Condi's crush!"

i.telegraph.co.uk
 
2012-04-30 09:59:21 AM  
Is not the narrative now that President Obama opposed the action that resulted in Mr. Osama bin Laden's death, that military leaders committed an act of treason in ordering the strike against President Obama's wishes and that President Obama took credit after the fact due to the outcome?
 
2012-04-30 10:00:50 AM  
I wonder if there is some obvious difference between these men that would make people give credit to some, and heap hatred on the other.

Maybe something about their backgrounds or appearance or something? I can't put my finger on it.
 
2012-04-30 10:01:36 AM  

StrangeQ: Shove it, GOP. If Bush had got Bin Laden during his term you know damn well there would have been a bravado filled victory speech and the dittoheads at Fox News would have ate it up. Farking classless, disingenuous scum, all of them.


missionaccomplished.jpg
 
2012-04-30 10:02:03 AM  
Yes. A one day low man op is exactly the same as the planning that went into world war 2. Seriously a dumb conjecture.
 
2012-04-30 10:02:08 AM  

Man On A Mission: Unclear on that whole "Commander in Chief" thing, are you?


www.disneydreaming.com

You mean Commander in Briefs
 
2012-04-30 10:02:28 AM  
GOP logic

Say what now?
 
2012-04-30 10:03:40 AM  

bulldg4life: How dare people politicize such things!


The ongoing campaign argument over which person ordering death from afar is the more "courageous" is wrong no matter who's selling it. But for John McCain (who put footage of himelf as a POW in pretty much every campaign commercial he ever made) to decry politicizing war and national security is really rich. Between McCain and George W Bush, the aught years were an orgy of self-congratulations, paeans to their own greatness and celebrations of war and killing. They set the standard. Link
 
2012-04-30 10:04:01 AM  

Jake Havechek: -- From Breitbart


So much butthurt
 
2012-04-30 10:04:13 AM  
Um, I note a remarkable lack of reportage on the GOP saying that Obama is "taking credit away from the SEALS" in TFA. In fact, the only thing other than complaining that he's playing politics with the issue was a reference to Romney repeatedly praising Obama for taking out bin Laden.

But nice try to force the narrative.
 
2012-04-30 10:04:40 AM  
how dare Eisenhower take credit for D-Day, Patton for winning the Battle of the Bulge, and that pesky MacArthur for taking back the Philippines

They were white?
 
2012-04-30 10:05:35 AM  
An unannounced raid violating the sovereignty of a nominal ally with no guarantee of success and significant risk of heavy political fallout isn't exactly a no-brainer decision and I recall reading that some close advisers argued against him greenlighting it as the intel stood. The killing of Bin Laden is a powerful showpiece accomplishment of his administration, especially in that it requires no real political acumen or nuance for the average voter to appreciate. Yes, running political advertising is by definition "playing politics." Thanks CNN.
 
2012-04-30 10:05:56 AM  

Dusk-You-n-Me: bulldg4life: How dare people politicize such things!

The ongoing campaign argument over which person ordering death from afar is the more "courageous" is wrong no matter who's selling it. But for John McCain (who put footage of himelf as a POW in pretty much every campaign commercial he ever made) to decry politicizing war and national security is really rich. Between McCain and George W Bush, the aught years were an orgy of self-congratulations, paeans to their own greatness and celebrations of war and killing. They set the standard. Link


While at the same time, waging smear campaigns against actual veterans (Max Cleland, John Kerry, etc.).
 
2012-04-30 10:06:21 AM  
So GOP, if Osama had died under Bush's command, you'd be saying that Bush deserves no credit and it was all the work of the Navy SEALS?

Somehow I doubt it.

/if Osama had been killed by American forces under Bush's watch, I would have given Bush his share of credit. It takes balls to commit men to a dangerous raid like this one.
 
2012-04-30 10:06:25 AM  

MyRandomName: Yes. A one day low man op is exactly the same as the planning that went into world war 2. Seriously a dumb conjecture.


Americans are just relieved we didn't have McCain as president when we located bin Laden. He had already stated that he would never go in to Pakistan to get him and Obama was naive for saying he would.

Thank goodness a man of action was in place to seize the moment, not some republican eager to appease the corrupted Pakistanis.
 
2012-04-30 10:06:38 AM  

Jackson Herring: Man On A Mission: Unclear on that whole "Commander in Chief" thing, are you?

[www.disneydreaming.com image 287x411]

You mean Commander in Briefs


www.frugal-cafe.com

"You said it, Sister!"
 
2012-04-30 10:06:58 AM  
We're going to keep saying that you are bad with foreign policy, soft on terror, and bad for national defense....and, if you bring up one of the single biggest accomplishments in the entirety of the war on Terror (something that we ignored and swept under the rug), well...that's just not fair and you are politicizing the issue.
 
2012-04-30 10:08:06 AM  

Jake Havechek: Il Douchey: GAT_00: And who directed the intel agencies to go find him, and then sent them off to get him?

Hey GAT, I haven't come here to bury Barry, I come to praise him. His nod wasn't just some perfunctory detail to cap off a multi year effort. No sir. Without the complex strategery, fortitude and personal bravery of Obama, our military would be a shambles of confusion. Nobody else could have figured out the proper decision to make. His position amongst the great military leaders like Washington and Churchill is assured. He did it all my friends, he did it all.

Well you see, Bush didn't care about getting the guy who okayed the biggest terrorist attack in history, he was much more interested in getting 5,000 Americans killed in Iraq so he could strut around on an aircraft carrier and call himself a "war president" on TV.

Do the souls of Americans Bush sent to die for no reason haunt him at night?


No, because the poor are just a resource to be used in what ever way the rich deem necessary. Nobody he knew or the the son of anybody he knew died, so what does he care? Hell he even allowed Osama Bin Laden to get away as a favor to the Bin Laden family.
 
2012-04-30 10:09:13 AM  
I was out on Friday with a bunch of friends that work for Republican legislators and they were all railing on this. I remember thinking, "This must be the talking point for next week."

That's a bingo!
 
2012-04-30 10:09:38 AM  
bin Laden was good for business. Mr. Cheney and Mr. Bush's business.
 
2012-04-30 10:09:50 AM  

heinekenftw: /if Osama had been killed by American forces under Bush's watch,


...we would all be celebrating George W Bush day on the third Wednesday of every month.
 
2012-04-30 10:10:23 AM  
Wouldn't the analogy here be crediting Franklin Delano Roosevelt, not the respective military commanders? Further, the examples aren't even consistent: why credit Patton for the Battle of the Bulge but not Omar Bradley for D-Day? Both were under the command of Eisenhower at the time.
 
2012-04-30 10:11:10 AM  
I love how some people's personal dislike for President Obama is so intense they seem to think he is not allowed to do what every president before him and every president after him will do, campaign on a successful policy decision. Especially when it overlaps into hypocrisy by those who glorified GW Bush's "Mission Accomplished" aircraft carrier dog and pony show. At least with President Obama the mission was actually accomplished.

I also know damn well that if Osama was still alive or the raid failed, the Republicans would be all over it saying it was an example of President Obama's failed leadership. Since it did not and Osama is dead, then the opposite must be true. I think the main problem is that this goes totally against the Republican's attempted narrative and they can't stand it.
 
2012-04-30 10:12:57 AM  
images1.dailykos.com

Both seem to piss off republicans.
 
2012-04-30 10:13:14 AM  
Also, by this logic Bin Laden is not responsible for 9/11. All he did was green light an obvious decision.
 
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