Gaw, the lack of understanding in this thread is unbelievable. Seriously. Azathoth *dreams* the entire universe into existence. The moment his unconscious, mad dream changes or ends, it *all* changes or ends. Everything. Galacticus. God. Batman. Everything. An insane dream.

Morans.

Goku's powers are basically magic, which is Supes' one weakness, and as a Saiyan he gets stronger after every fight, so I'd put my money on Goku, but only because of his cheesiness.

Doctor Who doesn't really have any super-powers beyond Time-Lord regeneration (and I seem to recall earlier series even treated that as function of the Tardis, not a species-trait). Basically, Doctor Who's abilities consist of knowing more about the Universe than most people due to age and upbringing, his ownership of an omni-tool (sonic screw-driver) that lets him manipulate matter and devices regardless of whether he understands them or not, and the charisma to bs his way through any situation. The Green Lantern is not only an accomplished bser (or no-nonsense brawler, depending on which one you mean), he can make anything he can imagine into reality. So that fight goes to GL.

As to "most powerful", if we're going to include deities then God certainly, since it is conceived of as being able to do anything, and unbound by consistency, ethics, or logic, by its believers. If we're going to disqualify canonically omnipotent and ruleless religious icons however, I'd say Simon the Digger from Gurren Lagaan as, in that series, he literally punches out then impales god to win freedom for the universe.

Pharmdawg: Dr. Strange could even beat Superman, who has a weakness to magic


/begin nerd rage

Dr. Fate can beat Dr. Strange because his character design is way cooler.

And Kid!Loki beats them all because he's a badass.

Dragon Ball Z abridged's Mr.Popo. The thing makes even GOKU terrified.

calbert: please define strongest.

physical strength?

most powerful mind?

space and time altering abilities?

Is Goku stronger than Superman? No.

Is Doctor Who better than the Green Lantern? too ambiguous of a question to answer. please define 'better'.

Goku can shoot magic lasers capable of blowing up cosmic bodies out of his hands, suck away the life-force from every living thing on multiple planets to create a magically attack able to defeat any foe in a single strike, instantaneously travel from any point in the multiple universe to any other point, and can fly at mach 5 around a planet with 100 times the gravity of Earth. Supes is as vulnerable to magic as a normal human, meaning he'd have a hard time dealing with even minor DBZ villains, like Garlic Junior.

not necessarily the most powerful, but definitely the most dangerous*



/*at least for one story

Heron: Goku can shoot magic lasers capable of blowing up cosmic bodies out of his hands, suck away the life-force from every living thing on multiple planets to create a magically attack able to defeat any foe in a single strike, instantaneously travel from any point in the multiple universe to any other point, and can fly at mach 5 around a planet with 100 times the gravity of Earth. Supes is as vulnerable to magic as a normal human, meaning he'd have a hard time dealing with even minor DBZ villains, like Garlic Junior.

None of Goku's abilities are magic though.

So help me I cannot remember the name of it but it has to be at least 15-20 years old now...

Some anime I saw way back when... Had some type of weapon that destroyed the entire universe and used that as energy to power a weapon.

What that weapon was then fired at I'm not sure... Since there would be nothing left.

Don't complain to me about the physics of it all, I thought it was silly even back then.

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B/c he always cheats.

A good argument. He also wields the terrible might of "incomplete backstory" which allows him to gain new abilities and gadgets with a single, well-timed flash-back issue.

PonceAlyosha: gozar_the_destroyer: \Yeah, Luthor's weakness is his insanity.

Luthor's still my favorite DCU character. Scratch that, Amanda Waller is. But Luthor is a close second.

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Brass farking Ovaries.

The Wall getting turned into a generic pretty young thing is what I dislike the most about DC's latest retcon.

PonceAlyosha: Heron: Goku can shoot magic lasers capable of blowing up cosmic bodies out of his hands, suck away the life-force from every living thing on multiple planets to create a magically attack able to defeat any foe in a single strike, instantaneously travel from any point in the multiple universe to any other point, and can fly at mach 5 around a planet with 100 times the gravity of Earth. Supes is as vulnerable to magic as a normal human, meaning he'd have a hard time dealing with even minor DBZ villains, like Garlic Junior.

None of Goku's abilities are magic though.

Sure they are. He's using "Ki", which is the same concept as "mana" or any other term every invented to provide a power-source for magic. Also, his stories follow the pattern of old Hindu and Buddhist hero tales, where you see protagonists flying through the sky at impossibly speeds and destroying entire armies of demons with a twitch of their eye-brows due to their magical natures (whether that magic be the result of divinity or "purity", another common power-source of magic changes from character to character).

More in universe, Goku repeatedly fights magical enemies who's attacks and abilities are in no way distinct form his own other than color. As such, the only conclusion to draw is that Goku's powers are your typical mythic martial arts magic common to East Asia.

jayhawk88: Doesn't seem like anyone has mentioned Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann yet, which seems to just about be the trump card in an Vs. battles, unless you start assuming things like The One Above All is a multiversal personification of God.

Although let's stop dumping on Hulk. Writers love to bring the Hulk in as a punching bag for their own characters to show off, but played fairly, there are very few non-cosmics in the MU that are taking Hulk down.

It is simple to kill the Hulk; you find Dr. Bruce Banner and rather than trying to capture him, you use a sniper to put a bullet in his head. Simple.

IrateShadow: Squirrel Girl. The answer is Squirrel Girl.

And we're done.

Power can be defined in many ways.
For overall destruction wrought, I'm torn between mendicant bias and the catalyst.

Catalyst has the casualty count, but MB took out tier one civilizations... Which make the races of mass effect look like bumbling children.
I'm not sure there's a superhero alive that could resist the sheer firepower or persistence of either.

Mad_Radhu: Heron: Doctor Who doesn't really have any super-powers beyond Time-Lord regeneration (and I seem to recall earlier series even treated that as function of the Tardis, not a species-trait). Basically, Doctor Who's abilities consist of knowing more about the Universe than most people due to age and upbringing, his ownership of an omni-tool (sonic screw-driver) that lets him manipulate matter and devices regardless of whether he understands them or not, and the charisma to bs his way through any situation. The Green Lantern is not only an accomplished bser (or no-nonsense brawler, depending on which one you mean), he can make anything he can imagine into reality. So that fight goes to GL.

What about the 6th Doctor, who is pretty much protected from all of the color based emotional spectrum at once?

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Ah yes. I was actually going to put something in about this but didn't know if the GL's still had the color weakness or not. The 6th Doctor would certainly be safe from any Lantern-based assault, and I given his modus operandi, I doubt any of the Doctors would pass on grabbing some suitably wild attire if they knew the GL weakness.

/Not that obscure. I hope.

Universe Man. He's the size of the universe with a watch to go with it.

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scarmig: Gaw, the lack of understanding in this thread is unbelievable. Seriously. Azathoth *dreams* the entire universe into existence. The moment his unconscious, mad dream changes or ends, it *all* changes or ends. Everything. Galacticus. God. Batman. Everything. An insane dream.

Morans.

True, but could Azathoth use that in a fight? The whole point is that Azathoth isn't aware of what it is or of the fact that it is dreaming. To maintain its entertainment, Azathoth's avatar in the dream would keep its true self asleep during any fight it happened to find itself in. Azathoth could certainly unmake everything by waking up, but that isn't really an ability it can wield consciously.

The strongest fictional character is this guy



given that he is the king of stories. I don't know why no one mentioned it earlier.

Dave.

I just drew a stick figure and named him Dave.

His super power is to be as powerful as he needs to be to be stronger than anyone/anything else.

Dave is a fictional character.

Case closed.

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Nope. The Lady of Pain, Defender/Prisoner/Monarch of Sigil, the City of Doors, could flay the skin off one of those without blinking an eye. Try again, Prime.

wildcardjack: Strongest Fictional Character? Let's go by the actual character of the character.



Raised out of the gutter; quit drinking; fought dragons; married into enough money that he owns half the city, still puts in too many nights on the streets; fights for equality by vindictively hiring people, trolls, midgets; uses science because it works and avoids magic unless it's clever. Found the rightful king of the city and still out ranks him. Wages wars to make peace. Fond of bacon.

So THAT'S what Vimes looks like. He also has the Watching Dark, err Gaurding Dark, whatever.

Malcolm Reynolds is the strongest sci fi character ever.

// He rolled with 18 CON

Heron: R Kelly's Doo Doo Butter: This is a silly question. Everyone knows that the answer is the the tarrasque
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Nope. The Lady of Pain, Defender/Prisoner/Monarch of Sigil, the City of Doors, could flay the skin off one of those without blinking an eye. Try again, Prime.

So, do you think she would Maze you for summoning the Tarrasque in Sigil? Even if it was in the chaos area?

gozar_the_destroyer: Heron: R Kelly's Doo Doo Butter: This is a silly question. Everyone knows that the answer is the the tarrasque
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Nope. The Lady of Pain, Defender/Prisoner/Monarch of Sigil, the City of Doors, could flay the skin off one of those without blinking an eye. Try again, Prime.

So, do you think she would Maze you for summoning the Tarrasque in Sigil? Even if it was in the chaos area?

Nah, tarrasques aren't deific so it doesn't break the rules. You would still get your ass kicked by somebody. Probably the tarrasque.

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Q laughs at Galactus.



Agrees

Damnit, derped my link.



Anyways, him. He's the strongest.

He'll send you to the hammock district. Permanently.

I'm going to go with "believable" fictional characters here (so that leaves out God). I'm going to go with Dr. Manhattan. He's the strongest.

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/hot like frozen time
//yes yes I know King Crimson is stronger, Dio has style which counts for something.



Wouldn't Made In Heaven (Enricco Pucci) be actually stronger? He accelerates time to infinity until the universe is born again (Yeah, he lost to Weather Report... in a closed room)

Also, Valentine's D4C is rather powerful considering that he basically weaponized dimensional hoping and has basically infinite lives ('cept for that time against Johnny)

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Hmm... no

PonceAlyosha: gozar_the_destroyer: Heron: R Kelly's Doo Doo Butter: This is a silly question. Everyone knows that the answer is the the tarrasque
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Nope. The Lady of Pain, Defender/Prisoner/Monarch of Sigil, the City of Doors, could flay the skin off one of those without blinking an eye. Try again, Prime.

So, do you think she would Maze you for summoning the Tarrasque in Sigil? Even if it was in the chaos area?

Nah, tarrasques aren't deific so it doesn't break the rules. You would still get your ass kicked by somebody. Probably the tarrasque.

Cool, I'll just use Astral Projection when I do it and make sure I appear to be one of the victims so no one comes after me.

Doctor Who is just a cheap imitation of this guy

He could beat everybody, The Hulk would be easy. He could even take Dr. Strange, he's taken out genies and witches and vampires (abra-capokis!) monsters, martians, I'd be willing to bet he'd take out the entire marvel universe at one time.

Remember when that giant Elmer Fudd was chasing him? He just stuck his foot out and tripped him, that's how he'd handle Galactus.

Heron: Goku's powers are basically magic, which is Supes' one weakness, and as a Saiyan he gets stronger after every fight, so I'd put my money on Goku, but only because of his cheesiness.

Doctor Who doesn't really have any super-powers beyond Time-Lord regeneration (and I seem to recall earlier series even treated that as function of the Tardis, not a species-trait). Basically, Doctor Who's abilities consist of knowing more about the Universe than most people due to age and upbringing, his ownership of an omni-tool (sonic screw-driver) that lets him manipulate matter and devices regardless of whether he understands them or not, and the charisma to bs his way through any situation. The Green Lantern is not only an accomplished bser (or no-nonsense brawler, depending on which one you mean), he can make anything he can imagine into reality. So that fight goes to GL.

As to "most powerful", if we're going to include deities then God certainly, since it is conceived of as being able to do anything, and unbound by consistency, ethics, or logic, by its believers. If we're going to disqualify canonically omnipotent and ruleless religious icons however, I'd say Simon the Digger from Gurren Lagaan as, in that series, he literally punches out then impales god to win freedom for the universe.

The TARDIS can turn yellow.

.

Mr. Rodgers

JosephFinn: IrateShadow: Squirrel Girl. The answer is Squirrel Girl.

And we're done.

Heron: scarmig: Gaw, the lack of understanding in this thread is unbelievable. Seriously. Azathoth *dreams* the entire universe into existence. The moment his unconscious, mad dream changes or ends, it *all* changes or ends. Everything. Galacticus. God. Batman. Everything. An insane dream.

Morans.

True, but could Azathoth use that in a fight? The whole point is that Azathoth isn't aware of what it is or of the fact that it is dreaming. To maintain its entertainment, Azathoth's avatar in the dream would keep its true self asleep during any fight it happened to find itself in. Azathoth could certainly unmake everything by waking up, but that isn't really an ability it can wield consciously.


But the parameters are "strongest fictional character". On the scale of immensity, dreaming the entire universe into existence pales all other measures of ability. Everything within that dream serves to continue or end the dream, with no knowledge of what circumstances could result either way. It allows all possible universes to exist, yet none escape its scope.

Azathoth wins, on sheer scale of immensity and totality.

Wolfman Johnny: Heron: Goku's powers are basically magic, which is Supes' one weakness, and as a Saiyan he gets stronger after every fight, so I'd put my money on Goku, but only because of his cheesiness.

Doctor Who doesn't really have any super-powers beyond Time-Lord regeneration (and I seem to recall earlier series even treated that as function of the Tardis, not a species-trait). Basically, Doctor Who's abilities consist of knowing more about the Universe than most people due to age and upbringing, his ownership of an omni-tool (sonic screw-driver) that lets him manipulate matter and devices regardless of whether he understands them or not, and the charisma to bs his way through any situation. The Green Lantern is not only an accomplished bser (or no-nonsense brawler, depending on which one you mean), he can make anything he can imagine into reality. So that fight goes to GL.

As to "most powerful", if we're going to include deities then God certainly, since it is conceived of as being able to do anything, and unbound by consistency, ethics, or logic, by its believers. If we're going to disqualify canonically omnipotent and ruleless religious icons however, I'd say Simon the Digger from Gurren Lagaan as, in that series, he literally punches out then impales god to win freedom for the universe.

The TARDIS can turn yellow.

The correct answer is a Black Lantern. They continually regenerate until their ring is destroyed and have constructs and whatever powers the victim had in life, but without their weaknesses. So I guess that makes the absolute most powerlful Black Lantern Martian Manhunter.