jso2897: She comes in colors everywhere: tlchwi02: Step 1: make hyperbolic statement

there is NO WAY that

he made modern pop and rock possible (along with the Beatles, which he also influenced heavily)

is a hyperbolic statement.

You might not like Dylan, you may hate his music, or his voice, or his poetry, or all three, and that's valid. But you have to respect the contribution he made to the formation of the modern pop and rock idiom.

His peers certainly did, and everybody clamored to record his songs. The important ones, anyway. Partly what made them still important is the fact that they did his songs. Circular? Maybe. But that's the influence this man had.

Find me a modern musician who doesn't respect what Dylan did for pop and rock.

Someone else might have done this later, but we wouldn't have had the later Beatles, or most of sixties rock, or anything influenced by them. Musical history would be vastly different.

Dylan changed the game. That's simple history.

This - there is pop lyricism before Dylan - and after.

Example?

Mermaid Avenue that's the street
Where the lox and bagels meet,
Where the sour meets the sweet;
Where the beer flows to the ocean
Where the wine runs to the sea;
Why they call it Mermaid Avenue
That's more than I can see.


But there's never been a mermaid here
On Mermaid Avenue
No, I've never seen a mermaid here
On Mermaid Avenue
I've seen hags and wags and witches;
And I've seen a shark or two
My five years that I've lived along
Old Mermaid's Avenue

Mermaid Avenue that's the street
Where the saint and sinners meet;
Where the grey hair meets the wave curls
Where the cops don't ever sleep;
Where they pay some cops to stop you
When you hit that Sea Gate gate;
Where them bulls along that wire fence
Scare the mermaids all away

Mermaid Avenue that's the street
Where the sun and storm clouds meet;
Where the ocean meets that rockwall
Where the boardwalk meets the beach;
Where the prettiest of the maidulas
Leave their legprints in that sand
Just beneath our lovesoaked boardwalk
With the bravest of our lads.


Mermaid Avenue that's the street
Where all colors of goodfolks meet;
Where the smokefish meets the pretzel
Where the borscht sounds like the seas;
This is where hot Mexican Chili
Meets Chop Suey and meatballs sweet;
Mermaid Avenue she's a nervous jerk
But, still, she's hard to beat.

^Now THAT'S poetry.

Dylan was Amazing, found his voice early on, and kept the flame alive for many years. For those who say what has he done lately, fark, what have you done ever?

Kris Kristofferson should be honored the same way.

Midnight Rambler: Thagnut: But I don't think he's written a great song in many years,

"Things Have Changed" is a few years old, but damn if this isn't a kick-ass song.

Amazing song. And Love and Theft, Modern Times, and Together Through Life are terrific albums that rival his 70s output.

I'll overlook the Christmas album.

tarkus1980: The version on The Bootleg Series, however, is easily his best song from the 80s.

Which Bootleg Series is this on? I

The English Major:

tarkus1980: The version on The Bootleg Series, however, is easily his best song from the 80s.

Which Bootleg Series is this on? I

Sorry, I have a bad habit of referring to volumes 1-3 as "The Bootleg Series" and subsequent entries in the series by their alternate names. I should call it "The Bootleg Series Vol 1-3."

Anyway I'm referring to the 3-CD boxset from the early 90s. It's a must for any serious Dylan fan.

tarkus1980: Anyway I'm referring to the 3-CD boxset from the early 90s. It's a must for any serious Dylan fan.

Thanks!

IMHO Dylan is among the most over-rated hacks that ever bought a guitar. talk about fooling most of the people most of the time.

KrispyKritter: IMHO Dylan is among the most over-rated hacks that ever bought a guitar. talk about fooling most of the people most of the time.

Your favorite music sucks.

Anagrammer: It's such a coincidence that Bob Dylan was awarded this honor and will be showing up at the White House in an election year, too.

Anagrammer: It's such a coincidence that Bob Dylan was awarded this honor and will be showing up at the White House in an election year, too.

Typical of any politician, either party. I'm not even sure if this is pandering anyway. Most of the boomers that grew up loving Dylan are probably voting Democrat already.

Before the ceremony he'll be out on the pavement, thinking about the government.

Vash's Apprentice: Miss Stein: Anagrammer: It's such a coincidence that Bob Dylan was awarded this honor and will be showing up at the White House in an election year, too.

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Thanks. *bows modestly* I never turn down an opportunity for a Weird Al reference.