odinsposse: I almost forgot. You should all be ashamed for missing The River. It was fun and interesting and filled a nice fantasy/horror niche that really isn't represented much in TV.


It started off slow,but definitely picked up considerably towards the end of the season. Pity it won't be back next year.

HoFChaos: That's the stupidest frakking idea I've read in days--and I've been reading the politics tab!

So you prefer adding superfluous plot to extend an already finished story for 13 extra episodes?

/possible I dont understand what you're getting at

IMDWalrus: Zombie DJ: Once Upon A Time has filled the void the wife and I had for watching LOST.
Best show on right now.

I'm five or six episodes back (the last one I watched was the one with Grumpy and Whiskey), but it isn't anywhere near Lost in terms of quality. It has gotten better since it started, but there's a lot of wasted potential, too. Once Upon a Time could actually learn from Lost Girl - OUAT takes itself too seriously most of the time. You've got freaking fairy tale characters and magic - the writers could be having a lot more fun than they have so far.

If OUAT did it right, they would probably wander a bit too close to ripping off Fables.

browntimmy: Wait, do you find Game of Thrones

Speaking for myself, I found "Game of Thrones" a terrible task to sit through. It struck me as something very much in the same vein as "Deadwood" or "Boardwalk Empire"- more or less absent of plot and instead focused on having characters milling about and bumping into each other. Too many characters, at that. I hate shows with giant casts.

Rob? Seriously? Thought it had been cancelled 2 episodes in.

PillsHere: Other than Kat Denings' boobs, I can't for the life of me figure out why anyone would watch 2 Broke Girls. I've seriously tried to watch that show 3 times now and it is absolutely terrible. I just hope Whitney and Chelsea at least don't return, they're also terrible.

It's got its moments. its not genius humor and I definitely wouldn't miss it were it to be canceled but I can ait through it and appreciate it for what it is; Kat Dennings delivering good lines about how messed up her life is.

9beers: t3knomanser: Speaking for myself, I found "Game of Thrones" a terrible task to sit through. It struck me as something very much in the same vein as "Deadwood" or "Boardwalk Empire"-

So basically, you hate shows that are hugely popular and highly rated because they're too mainstream for a hipster like you.

No, he hates shows that aren't procedurals.

I guess you could say he likes his tv....episodic.

/YEAAAAHHHHH

9beers: So basically, you hate shows that are hugely popular and highly rated because they're too mainstream for a hipster like you.

No. I hate shows that have too many damn characters, because I can't keep track of who is who. Giant ensemble casts are terrible for me. I have to make up my own names for the characters, otherwise I'll never be able to tell who is who and what they're doing.

imgod2u: No, he hates shows that aren't procedurals.

I honestly don't like procedurals that much. I have a soft spot for "Castle". I like "Awake", but wish it would spend muuuuch less time on the procedural parts (the best episodes have only one case, or no case).

"Breaking Bad" is my key counter-example. The cast has grown, but it's grown organically. The episodes remain very plot driven, and don't rely on having the characters bump into each other to drive the drama forward. Instead, someone- usually Walt- takes a distinct action to forward their own agenda, and then things spiral out of control from there.

I know who everyone is and why they're involved in the plot. We don't spend large amount of time in little plot cul de sacs where people deliver dialogue and emote at each other. We don't have extra characters that serve no purpose but to pad out the show's running time.

Carth: Never read the book your mind will explode.

They're not on my todo list. When it comes to fantasy, I'm not really into the sprawling epics. The last series I read that was pure fantasy was Butcher's Codex of Alera- again, tightly plotted (mostly), with clear roles for all of the characters. The cast got large, but did so in such a way that I could keep track of who was doing what and what they wanted.

I'm currently reading the urban-fantasy The Last Call, and I'm somewhat annoyed- the first half of the book fits my tastes in this regard, and then in the second section, a huge raft of characters are all thrown at the reader from nowhere.

Tatsuma: Imagine the count of Monte Carlo had a daughter, she had endless funds, an endless appetite for vengeance, and so many 1% to just crush. And boobs.


Well damn....I guess it is worth checking out after all.

Tatsuma: Imagine the count of Monte Carlo had a daughter

Monte Crisco. By Alexander Dumbass.