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(SeattlePI)   Good news: Eight mayors band together to publicly compare the ban on marijuana in the United States to Prohibition. Bad news: They're not mayors in the United States   (blog.seattlepi.com) divider line 115
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2012-04-29 12:56:38 PM  
You know, Canada, one way to stop the jokes about being America's hat is to stop acting like America's hat.

/Having solved all their own problems, British Columbian mayors turn their attention to other countries...
 
2012-04-29 12:57:40 PM  

AcneVulgaris: namatad: can we ignore them all and just farking legalize it already???


You'll have to get those guns away from them first.


I have 16 firearms and smoke weed err' day.

Way2sterotype
 
2012-04-29 12:59:41 PM  
Then it's none of their business, and they need to piss off and go run their own cites.
 
2012-04-29 01:01:58 PM  
you know, another thing to consider - leave it up to the individual states if they want to keep cannabis legal or not. states rights, yes? that's something even the most hardcore bad ass GOP mall ninja can get behind.
 
2012-04-29 01:05:24 PM  
Got to keep the prison industrial complex alive somehow.

Modern day slavery is an extremely profitable industry.
 
2012-04-29 01:11:27 PM  

namatad: SharkTrager: What we really need is the nations where it is legal, but where they are tired of US drug tourists, to start putting pressure on us to legalize.

fox was going to legalize carry weight in mexico. until bush 2.0 put pressure on him to drop it. and look how well that has worked out??
mexico should legal ALL drugs, ALL amounts.
at least attempt to enforce selling the drugs in drugs stores.
give the drug stores some incentives to do this and to collect taxes. hell, just tax the drugs like all other products. TADA.
focus all the law enforcement on people who sell drugs to kids. ignore the US completely.

intended consequences?
HUGE influx of drug vacation destination
increased revenue from drug related tourist arrests (driving while drugged, public disturbance.
increased all inclusives which along with food and drink, will now provide a cornucopia of other enhancements

why fly to Amsterdam when mexico is so close ??


Something about being subject to the laws of your country of origin. Doesn't matter where you fly to, you will still be prosecuted as an American Citizen if there is evidence you broke American law when you return back home. Example; you work in a drug free place of employment but go to Amsterdam and smoke there where smoking of cannibis is permitted. Two weeks later, you are notified you are terminated from your job as your recent drug test was positive. Can they do that? Yes as the terms of your employment were to remain drug-free.

I think i read some place that Amsterdam was in the process of making their smoke cafes restricted to citizen use only so going there for some legal dope may soon be a thing of the past.

I think if the government were to review a few studies showing that pot smoking was no more detrimental to society than alcohol or that cannibis is no more a "gateway drug" to harder drugs any more than beer lead inevitably to the use of harder alcohol (I'm proof that it doesn't), then maybe they could look into legalization. Mind you, I don't want to hear any of that biatching about how you're being discrinated against because you use cannibis...
 
2012-04-29 01:12:01 PM  
Two really good ways to test if someone is a moron:
1. Ask if they think pot will ever be legal. If they say yes-moron
2. Ask if they think pot should be illegal. If they say yes-moron
 
2012-04-29 01:13:17 PM  

Goodfella: Got to keep the prison industrial complex alive somehow.

Modern day slavery is an extremely profitable industry.


Just ask Sherriff Joe
 
2012-04-29 01:13:20 PM  

clowncar on fire: Something about being subject to the laws of your country of origin. Doesn't matter where you fly to, you will still be prosecuted as an American Citizen if there is evidence you broke American law when you return back home.


unless you're a corporation. then you can piss on US laws all you want and when you get back to America you can bang your trophy wife all night long and sleep in on sunday morning.
 
2012-04-29 01:14:17 PM  

Trance750: Goodfella: Got to keep the prison industrial complex alive somehow.

Modern day slavery is an extremely profitable industry.

Just ask Sherriff Joe


I don't think I could ever meet that guy in person without either breaking out in gales of laughter or asking him if he's ever just gonna man up and come outta the closet.
 
2012-04-29 01:15:58 PM  

Weaver95: clowncar on fire: Something about being subject to the laws of your country of origin. Doesn't matter where you fly to, you will still be prosecuted as an American Citizen if there is evidence you broke American law when you return back home.

unless you're a corporation. then you can piss on US laws all you want and when you get back to America you can bang your trophy wife all night long and sleep in on sunday morning.


Or unless you're a high-profile Republican

Dick Armey, anyone?
 
2012-04-29 01:21:57 PM  

Trance750: Weaver95: clowncar on fire: Something about being subject to the laws of your country of origin. Doesn't matter where you fly to, you will still be prosecuted as an American Citizen if there is evidence you broke American law when you return back home.

unless you're a corporation. then you can piss on US laws all you want and when you get back to America you can bang your trophy wife all night long and sleep in on sunday morning.

Or unless you're a high-profile Republican

Dick Armey, anyone?


true. I mean...if you're rich and powerful then you can pretty much do whatever you want anywhere you want to do it and not face any consequences. the laws tend to only apply to the little people like you and me. so you and I couldn't smoke up in amsterdam without facing consequences once we got home...but rich and powerful celebrity types can (and often do) toke up all over the place and nothing happens.

y'know what else? it's practically a law that ever major band on tour gets high. why isn't the DEA following around every big name concert tour in the US and arresting high profile bands for illegal drug use? we KNOW they're getting high on the tour bus and banging groupies/hookers. hell, they wave it around and make fun of the fact that they all do tons of drugs. when was the last time YOU saw a major record label have to go down to lockup and bail out their headline act?
 
2012-04-29 01:22:11 PM  

Weaver95: Trance750: Goodfella: Got to keep the prison industrial complex alive somehow.

Modern day slavery is an extremely profitable industry.

Just ask Sherriff Joe

I don't think I could ever meet that guy in person without either breaking out in gales of laughter or asking him if he's ever just gonna man up and come outta the closet.


I've met him. You wouldn't do either. He's a sad old man, lying about his age, largely being used by others at this point.

And his bodyguards would not take kindly to your action.
 
2012-04-29 01:23:52 PM  

SharkTrager: I've met him. You wouldn't do either. He's a sad old man, lying about his age, largely being used by others at this point.


that's ok, I'm fine with laughing at sad old men past their prime who can't admit it's time to retire.

And his bodyguards would not take kindly to your action.

i'm sure they wouldn't...but I wouldn't stick around to get beat up off camera either.
 
2012-04-29 01:27:20 PM  

Trance750: clowncar on fire: Trance750: SharkTrager: Trance750: The reason why pot will never be legal in the US:

The Cartels don't WANT it legal, because they know, as the Gangsters of the 20s and 30s knew, if you made it legal and erase the stigma, the prices will drop and they will be out of business (at least in that market)

So the Cartels pay off enough politicians to keep it illegal (and therefore keeping the prices high)

What we really need is the nations where it is legal, but where they are tired of US drug tourists, to start putting pressure on us to legalize.

Agreed totally. I think it should be made legal, but have it follow the same rules as tobacco. You can't buy it unless you are at least 18, blah blah blah

I am convinced that with the added tax winfall, within 10 years we could have a budget surplus again.

Plus the police can then concentrate on the real criminals

I'll agree with most of this though I like the same rules that apply to alcohol rather than tobacco be applied to cannibis.

I'm not yet ready to work with a bunch of stoners after their third "smoke break" when it isn't even noon yet. Most people who use alcohol are smart enough to curb their use during working hours since it is a fireable offense- tobacco: not so.

Are you really sure about that. A few people from my office were escorted out for drinking on the job.


I qualified it with "most". We have people sneaking off for liquid lunches once in a while... it's usually no contest when they get caught and fired. For the relatively large amount of recreational drinkers out there, most are not that willing to risk losing their jobs in order to sneak in a drink or two during the day. You put cannabis in the same category as alchohol, I'd think recreational users would exercise that same self control and would imbibe outside the work place. If this were not the case, then maybe there would be a reason that a work place insist that one of the terms of employment would be that their employees remaining drug free.
 
2012-04-29 01:27:37 PM  

Anagrammer: You know, Canada, one way to stop the jokes about being America's hat is to stop acting like America's hat.

/Having solved all their own problems, British Columbian mayors turn their attention to other countries...


We learned it from you! We learned it from watching you!
 
2012-04-29 01:30:22 PM  

Mikeyworld: What percentage of the current market for weed is comprised of under-18s, do you think? I'd bet it's between a third and a half.

Do definitely underestimate the dedication of the mature pothead. More people who are over 18 smoke than those under. The propaganda has worked on our youth. Many are afraid of it. High school is still a battleground for jocks/heads, just less defined.


Not only that but employed adults tend to have more cash to blow on things like pot.

Some quick googling shows that 22 million adults in the US use marijuana annually - 8 million are chronic users (their word, not mine - not sure if pun intended) meaning 100 times or more a year. I'm too lazy to search for the under-18s right now, but I recall figures a few years ago saying that about 25 million Americans smoke pot each year. Maybe it's higher now? At any rate, I'd say even saying 1/3 of pot smokers are under 18 is a huge exaggeration.
 
2012-04-29 01:32:34 PM  

Happy Hours: Some quick googling shows that 22 million adults in the US use marijuana annually - 8 million are chronic users (their word, not mine - not sure if pun intended) meaning 100 times or more a year. I'm too lazy to search for the under-18s right now, but I recall figures a few years ago saying that about 25 million Americans smoke pot each year. Maybe it's higher now? At any rate, I'd say even saying 1/3 of pot smokers are under 18 is a huge exaggeration.


I very strongly suspect there are a large bunch of baby boomers who toke up at home, then go out and vote for 'tough on crime' anti-drug measures every chance they get.
 
2012-04-29 01:37:51 PM  

Weaver95: Happy Hours: Some quick googling shows that 22 million adults in the US use marijuana annually - 8 million are chronic users (their word, not mine - not sure if pun intended) meaning 100 times or more a year. I'm too lazy to search for the under-18s right now, but I recall figures a few years ago saying that about 25 million Americans smoke pot each year. Maybe it's higher now? At any rate, I'd say even saying 1/3 of pot smokers are under 18 is a huge exaggeration.

I very strongly suspect there are a large bunch of baby boomers who toke up at home, then go out and vote for 'tough on crime' anti-drug measures every chance they get.


"I am shocked - shocked - to learn there is drug dealing going on in this town!"

"Here's your dimebag, Mr. Law-n-Order Voter."

"Errr, thank you..."
 
2012-04-29 01:38:51 PM  

kisseswookies: Not only do they get revenue from the cartels, but the war on drugs keeps their pockets fat too, and keep the poor in jail, or have to file "felony" on their job applications.


Giga-this.

How could the prison industry make billions (with a b) of dollars a year off of the American taxpayer if drugs, however harmless, were decriminalized?

You have to look at the big picture here, people.

A few hundred million in tax revenues
 
2012-04-29 01:41:49 PM  

Trance750: Weaver95: clowncar on fire: Something about being subject to the laws of your country of origin. Doesn't matter where you fly to, you will still be prosecuted as an American Citizen if there is evidence you broke American law when you return back home.

unless you're a corporation. then you can piss on US laws all you want and when you get back to America you can bang your trophy wife all night long and sleep in on sunday morning.

Or unless you're a high-profile Republican

Dick Armey, anyone?


Stop it Weaver- you know damned well breaking laws isn't dependant on polital orientation so quit trying to get all up in our face saying that only the 1% or republicans are cable of breaking the law and getting away with it. In fact, everytime you try to use political affiliation or class in your posts the first thing that comes to mind is "schitzo troll". You want to give your commentary a little more legitimacy, drop the biased "us against them" tagline you've sunken to lately.

Obama self admittantly smoked dope and noone prosecuted him so get over it already.
 
2012-04-29 01:42:15 PM  

sharkbeagle: Ending prohibition also ended drunken domestic violence.


What is the stoner equivalent to domestic violence? Junk food assault?
 
2012-04-29 01:44:09 PM  

rorypk: Two really good ways to test if someone is a moron:
1. Ask if they think pot will ever be legal. If they say yes-moron
2. Ask if they think pot should be illegal. If they say yes-moron


3. Their Fark handle is rorypk-moron
 
2012-04-29 01:45:34 PM  

clowncar on fire: Trance750: Weaver95: clowncar on fire: Something about being subject to the laws of your country of origin. Doesn't matter where you fly to, you will still be prosecuted as an American Citizen if there is evidence you broke American law when you return back home.

unless you're a corporation. then you can piss on US laws all you want and when you get back to America you can bang your trophy wife all night long and sleep in on sunday morning.

Or unless you're a high-profile Republican

Dick Armey, anyone?

Stop it Weaver- you know damned well breaking laws isn't dependant on polital orientation so quit trying to get all up in our face saying that only the 1% or republicans are cable of breaking the law and getting away with it. In fact, everytime you try to use political affiliation or class in your posts the first thing that comes to mind is "schitzo troll". You want to give your commentary a little more legitimacy, drop the biased "us against them" tagline you've sunken to lately.

Obama self admittantly smoked dope and noone prosecuted him so get over it already.


you might want to re-read that comment chain...'twerent I who mentioned the Republicans....
 
2012-04-29 01:52:53 PM  

D_Evans45: sharkbeagle: Ending prohibition also ended drunken domestic violence.

What is the stoner equivalent to domestic violence? Junk food assault?


Well... If being straight and having to deal with a bone head theres: assault on the intellect. Irritation. Excessively high levels of annoyance factor. I'm sure there's animal cruelty involved some where as every bone head I've ever met claims to have gotten the family pet stoned at one time or another.

Ending prohibition only ended a class of crime but does not end the crimes associated with that class. I would think that ending prohibition would increase the amount of violent crime such as domestic abuse as "liquid courage" would now be more accessible
 
2012-04-29 01:52:58 PM  
manitobamadman - Why do you take offense to the post you quoted? Do you believe 1. cannabis legalization is inevitable or 2. that cannabis use should be illegal?

And would you explain your reasoning please?
 
2012-04-29 01:55:32 PM  

Weaver95: clowncar on fire: Trance750: Weaver95: clowncar on fire: Something about being subject to the laws of your country of origin. Doesn't matter where you fly to, you will still be prosecuted as an American Citizen if there is evidence you broke American law when you return back home.

unless you're a corporation. then you can piss on US laws all you want and when you get back to America you can bang your trophy wife all night long and sleep in on sunday morning.

Or unless you're a high-profile Republican

Dick Armey, anyone?

Stop it Weaver- you know damned well breaking laws isn't dependant on polital orientation so quit trying to get all up in our face saying that only the 1% or republicans are cable of breaking the law and getting away with it. In fact, everytime you try to use political affiliation or class in your posts the first thing that comes to mind is "schitzo troll". You want to give your commentary a little more legitimacy, drop the biased "us against them" tagline you've sunken to lately.

Obama self admittantly smoked dope and noone prosecuted him so get over it already.

you might want to re-read that comment chain...'twerent I who mentioned the Republicans....


Egads... you are correct- i've had a few issues with e-mail at work like this before as well. My humblest of appologies!
 
2012-04-29 01:57:34 PM  

manitobamadman: rorypk: Two really good ways to test if someone is a moron:
1. Ask if they think pot will ever be legal. If they say yes-moron
2. Ask if they think pot should be illegal. If they say yes-moron

3. Their Fark handle is rorypk-moron


Whoa, sick burn man. So, are you a #1 moron or a #2 moron?
 
2012-04-29 01:57:45 PM  

rorypk: Two really good ways to test if someone is a moron:
1. Ask if they think pot will ever be legal. If they say yes-moron
2. Ask if they think pot should be illegal. If they say yes-moron


I think it could happen.
The problem is no one cares enough yet.

Politicians who think they are in the right or benefiting greatly on any issue become stubborn.
If the benefits start to swing the other way, or enough of the electorate can show they disagree, either politicians change their views or opportunists will sneak in to grab that support.
A few noteworthy elections that are lost for the anti-drug side (because of Pro-weed lobby money or votes) will mean the end of prohibition II.

The trick is to either get alot of cash, or get people out into the streets.
2.bp.blogspot.com

Because politicians are very vulnerable to scenes like this.
 
2012-04-29 02:02:47 PM  

D_Evans45: manitobamadman - Why do you take offense to the post you quoted? Do you believe 1. cannabis legalization is inevitable or 2. that cannabis use should be illegal?

And would you explain your reasoning please?


Both, I see nothing wrong with legalization of Marijuana, but LOTS wrong with it being illegal.
 
2012-04-29 02:08:12 PM  

way south: Because politicians are very vulnerable to scenes like this.


Not anymore. free speech 'zones' doused with fish based fertilizer is the likely outcome of any mass pro-marijuana rally.
 
2012-04-29 02:13:12 PM  

Weaver95:

I very strongly suspect there are a large bunch of baby boomers who toke up at home, then go out and vote for 'tough on crime' anti-drug measures every chance they get.


There are, they're voting to keep all those darker skinned folks in jail and out of the suburbs. And suburban cops exist mostly to pull over minorities for "traffic violations."
 
2012-04-29 02:13:39 PM  

rorypk: manitobamadman: rorypk: Two really good ways to test if someone is a moron:
1. Ask if they think pot will ever be legal. If they say yes-moron
2. Ask if they think pot should be illegal. If they say yes-moron

3. Their Fark handle is rorypk-moron

Whoa, sick burn man. So, are you a #1 moron or a #2 moron?


I do smoke pot LEGALLY, in fact buy it from the Canadian Gov. I have a spinal cord injury, and have a prescription from my family doctor. If not for pot, I would have to be taking hydromorphone ( 4mg ) at least three times a day.
As for the moron, I await your reply.
 
2012-04-29 02:20:24 PM  

manitobamadman: rorypk: manitobamadman: rorypk: Two really good ways to test if someone is a moron:
1. Ask if they think pot will ever be legal. If they say yes-moron
2. Ask if they think pot should be illegal. If they say yes-moron

3. Their Fark handle is rorypk-moron

Whoa, sick burn man. So, are you a #1 moron or a #2 moron?

I do smoke pot LEGALLY, in fact buy it from the Canadian Gov. I have a spinal cord injury, and have a prescription from my family doctor. If not for pot, I would have to be taking hydromorphone ( 4mg ) at least three times a day.
As for the moron, I await your reply.


I don't even know what you're getting at. So these eight mayors are incorrect about marijuana be illegal? They just don't know you, and that you get it from the government?
 
2012-04-29 02:23:12 PM  

clowncar on fire: Well... If being straight and having to deal with a bone head theres: assault on the intellect. Irritation. Excessively high levels of annoyance factor. I'm sure there's animal cruelty involved some where as every bone head I've ever met claims to have gotten the family pet stoned at one time or another.

Ending prohibition only ended a class of crime but does not end the crimes associated with that class. I would think that ending prohibition would increase the amount of violent crime such as domestic abuse as "liquid courage" would now be more accessible




Youre gonna have to deal with a lot of bone heads in life, sober or not. Have you ever worked retail/customer service, or the public in general for extended amounts of time? Your inclination to label cannabis consumers boneheads just makes it look like you have a pet peeve. Besides young people, I cant think of any pot users I know personally to exhibit outright boneheaded behavior to everyone else in public. I highly doubt cannabis consumers are "assaulting your intellect" and generating "excessively high amounts of annoyance or irritation" when they're talking to you, it looks more like you have some kind of chip on your shoulder.

Also, your spousal abuse "example" has nothing to do with cannabis prohibition. Does make sense though with your mentality. Care to list the amount of crimes associated with cannabis use?
 
2012-04-29 02:28:38 PM  

clowncar on fire: Ending prohibition only ended a class of crime but does not end the crimes associated with that class. I would think that ending prohibition would increase the amount of violent crime such as domestic abuse as "liquid courage" would now be more accessible


Abusive behaviour is not caused by inebriation; it is caused by a lack of basic respect for others combined with power and control issues. Someone using intoxication as an excuse for physical and sexual abuse would find another rationalization for their abusive acts were alcohol inaccessible, or would (and often do) commit non-physical forms of abuse while sober -- this only applies to people who try to use intoxication as an excuse at all, which is a subset of abusers.
 
2012-04-29 02:32:14 PM  

clowncar on fire: Trance750: Weaver95: clowncar on fire: Something about being subject to the laws of your country of origin. Doesn't matter where you fly to, you will still be prosecuted as an American Citizen if there is evidence you broke American law when you return back home.

unless you're a corporation. then you can piss on US laws all you want and when you get back to America you can bang your trophy wife all night long and sleep in on sunday morning.

Or unless you're a high-profile Republican

Dick Armey, anyone?

Stop it Weaver- you know damned well breaking laws isn't dependant on polital orientation so quit trying to get all up in our face saying that only the 1% or republicans are cable of breaking the law and getting away with it. In fact, everytime you try to use political affiliation or class in your posts the first thing that comes to mind is "schitzo troll". You want to give your commentary a little more legitimacy, drop the biased "us against them" tagline you've sunken to lately.

Obama self admittantly smoked dope and noone prosecuted him so get over it already.


And so did Bush and people wanted to tar and feather him for it
 
2012-04-29 02:32:47 PM  

rorypk: manitobamadman: rorypk: manitobamadman: rorypk: Two really good ways to test if someone is a moron:
1. Ask if they think pot will ever be legal. If they say yes-moron
2. Ask if they think pot should be illegal. If they say yes-moron

3. Their Fark handle is rorypk-moron

Whoa, sick burn man. So, are you a #1 moron or a #2 moron?

I do smoke pot LEGALLY, in fact buy it from the Canadian Gov. I have a spinal cord injury, and have a prescription from my family doctor. If not for pot, I would have to be taking hydromorphone ( 4mg ) at least three times a day.
As for the moron, I await your reply.

I don't even know what you're getting at. So these eight mayors are incorrect about marijuana be illegal? They just don't know you, and that you get it from the government?


O.K. I'll hold your hand and walk you through it...

"Whoa, sick burn man. So, are you a #1 moron or a #2 moron? "

I thought I was answering your question. And it was ... In some cases it is LEGAL.
 
2012-04-29 02:40:35 PM  

david_gaithersburg: The Republicans get real jobs and employ people and make things. All of the Dems are lawyers, all of them, every single last one of them. Their specialty is stealing from the poor to give to themselves. But you love them all the same because the koolaide is oh so fine.


This is blatant partisanship. The idea that your side is all Saints while our side is all Sinners is nothing more than comic book morality. It's also the easiest way to spot a conservative mind - they have no concept of any idea that isn't black or white. So if you're a republican, everything they do and say is holy and in line with God himself, while all things Democratic are demonic and evil. The world is all about shades of gray and that is acknowledged by Liberals and accounted for in their rhetoric. We don't go around accusing republicans of entering pacts with the Devil, we admit that some things done in our name have gone horribly wrong. But our strength is to see there is a vast distance between black and white and most things are a shade of gray. I'm proud to be a Liberal.
 
2012-04-29 02:42:45 PM  

manitobamadman: In some cases it is LEGAL.


way to be pedantic. No one in the original article, nor this thread, has been talking about medical marijuana. You'd have to be some sort of moron to think otherwise. Legal recreational marijuana will never happen, and if you think it will you are a moron. Did your head up your ass cause the spinal injury?
 
2012-04-29 02:43:12 PM  

SharkTrager: tirob: What percentage of the current market for weed is comprised of under-18s, do you think? I'd bet it's between a third and a half.

Nope. They have moved on to other drugs.


Mikeyworld:

Do definitely underestimate the dedication of the mature pothead. More people who are over 18 smoke than those under. The propaganda has worked on our youth. Many are afraid of it. High school is still a battleground for jocks/heads, just less defined.


Not so sure about this. FTFA: "As if to emphasize his point, thousands of Lower Mainland teenagers gathered in downtown Vancouver for a public 4/20 smoke-in last Friday."

Trance750: Mikeyworld: tirob:

Correct. Don't buy into those cheesy 80s anti-pot commercial that show Jimmy just sitting on a sofa and staring out into space.

For the most part your recreational users are very intelligent and functional.


I have met some recreational users who are functional and others who are quite the reverse.
 
2012-04-29 02:53:27 PM  

tirob: SharkTrager: tirob: What percentage of the current market for weed is comprised of under-18s, do you think? I'd bet it's between a third and a half.

Nope. They have moved on to other drugs.

Mikeyworld:

Do definitely underestimate the dedication of the mature pothead. More people who are over 18 smoke than those under. The propaganda has worked on our youth. Many are afraid of it. High school is still a battleground for jocks/heads, just less defined.

Not so sure about this. FTFA: "As if to emphasize his point, thousands of Lower Mainland teenagers gathered in downtown Vancouver for a public 4/20 smoke-in last Friday."

Trance750: Mikeyworld: tirob:

Correct. Don't buy into those cheesy 80s anti-pot commercial that show Jimmy just sitting on a sofa and staring out into space.

For the most part your recreational users are very intelligent and functional.

I have met some recreational users who are functional and others who are quite the reverse.


Odds are they were on something else. Pot will mellow you out, but it's won't make you into a spaced-out zombie or anything else like that
 
2012-04-29 03:07:09 PM  
Fark Headline: Good news: Eight mayors band together to publicly compare the ban on marijuana in the United States to Prohibition. Bad news: They're not mayors in the United States

Worse news: Fark Headlines that never match what the article or article headline says.

FTFA: The mayors of eight British Columbia cities, in a joint letter, liken marijuana enforcement to "alcohol prohibition in the United States in the 1930′s"
 
2012-04-29 03:07:33 PM  

rorypk: manitobamadman: In some cases it is LEGAL.

way to be pedantic. No one in the original article, nor this thread, has been talking about medical marijuana. You'd have to be some sort of moron to think otherwise. Legal recreational marijuana will never happen, and if you think it will you are a moron. Did your head up your ass cause the spinal injury?


No blind-sided by a drunk driver, thanks.
DNRTFA,
was just replying to your comment about morons.
 
2012-04-29 03:09:31 PM  

tirob: Trance750: SharkTrager: Trance750: The reason why pot will never be legal in the US:

The Cartels don't WANT it legal, because they know, as the Gangsters of the 20s and 30s knew, if you made it legal and erase the stigma, the prices will drop and they will be out of business (at least in that market)

So the Cartels pay off enough politicians to keep it illegal (and therefore keeping the prices high)

What we really need is the nations where it is legal, but where they are tired of US drug tourists, to start putting pressure on us to legalize.

Agreed totally. I think it should be made legal, but have it follow the same rules as tobacco. You can't buy it unless you are at least 18, blah blah blah


What percentage of the current market for weed is comprised of under-18s, do you think? I'd bet it's between a third and a half.


By weight maybe but certainly not by $
 
2012-04-29 03:17:17 PM  

Trance750: tirob: SharkTrager: tirob: For the most part your recreational users are very intelligent and functional.

I have met some recreational users who are functional and others who are quite the reverse.

Odds are they were on something else. Pot will mellow you out, but it's won't make you into a spaced-out zombie or anything else like that


Maybe. It wasn't so much that these people were spaced out zombies--they could think straight and talk straight. It was that they were simultaneously idle and belligerent--and not mellow at all.
 
2012-04-29 03:19:23 PM  

rorypk: Two really good ways to test if someone is a moron:
1. Ask if they think pot will ever be legal. If they say yes-moron
2. Ask if they think pot should be illegal. If they say yes-moron


i am sure there is also a test involving how many times somebody uses the word 'moron'
 
2012-04-29 03:21:21 PM  

mxwjs: rorypk: Two really good ways to test if someone is a moron:
1. Ask if they think pot will ever be legal. If they say yes-moron
2. Ask if they think pot should be illegal. If they say yes-moron

i am sure there is also a test involving how many times somebody uses the word 'moron'


try having a discussion with the guy !
 
2012-04-29 03:37:27 PM  

david_gaithersburg: The Republicans get real jobs and employ people and make things. All of the Dems are lawyers, all of them, every single last one of them. Their specialty is stealing from the poor to give to themselves. But you love them all the same because the koolaide is oh so fine.


so all the lawyers who are pretending to be GOPs are REALLY DEMS in hiding?
given that what, 99% of congress is lawyers, you are saying that the DEMS control congress??
WOOOT

no wait, you are just a moron ....
got it
 
2012-04-29 03:42:15 PM  

clowncar on fire: Something about being subject to the laws of your country of origin. Doesn't matter where you fly to, you will still be prosecuted as an American Citizen if there is evidence you broke American law when you return back home. Example; you work in a drug free place of employment but go to Amsterdam and smoke there where smoking of cannibis is permitted. Two weeks later, you are notified you are terminated from your job as your recent drug test was positive. Can they do that? Yes as the terms of your employment were to remain drug-free.


except what you wrote has nothing to do with laws in the US.
if your job requires you to be drug free, then you dont do drugs or you should get another job.
my job does not do random drug screens. I can smoke as much pot in Amsterdam as I wants. or canada or wherever ...
and I can not be arrested in the US.

sure, maybe if I get off the plane and I am TOTALLY baked, they might try to make some retarded case about HIGH while in the US.
But pretty certain that that would get dropped or lose on appeal and I would totally win the civil suit against the government.

but go ahead and believe what you wanna believe
 
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